Celtic Banter Archive January 12 2021

12 Jan 2021 22:25:02
ed on your point on your post earlier regarding desmonds son, I've actually heard he's in line to take over lawell but i realise what pish goes about at times, have you heard anything about this mate?

{Ed007's Note - That rumour's been kicking about for a while, Liam and I have no idea if it's true but I do know for a fact from someone who has spoken to him (Ross) that one of his son's "gets it" and would push the Club in a different direction given the chance.}

12 Jan 2021 22:43:26
sounds promising and i believe there will be change and look forward to see the direction we go in.

12 Jan 2021 22:56:57
Hope its true and if it is true, sooner the better.

12 Jan 2021 19:57:29
Wondering if anyone knows the exact location of Lawwells bunker? Every single time we are in a PR crisis be it a champions league exit to a smaller club or player issues such as bolingoli he is posted missing, I can only assume he is in his counting house counting all his money, last night he left Gavin Strachan to face the press knowing none of the questions would be football related, he is a coward with no leadership or strategy beyond hiking his annual remuneration, we need him gone and gone tomorrow, pictures of him last night were not of someone on top of his game, he has presided over more than a decade of mediocrity in Europe, he needs gone and gone tomorrow, on another note are we the very worst team in the world at shys both taking them and defending them, genuine question.

{Ed007's Note - We all want Lawwell to keep out of footballing matters so why on earth do you want him to come out and speak when we lose football matches, surely that's the job of the manager and coaches? What other club in the world does that happen at? Clubs release official statements, that's what Celtic do as well.
Peter Lawwell isn't paid to deal with the press.}

12 Jan 2021 20:34:27
Ed
Was actually referring to before the match and the on going Dubai issue.

{Ed007's Note - The Club had released a statement, what else did you want them, or Lawwell, to say?}

12 Jan 2021 20:58:55
Dubai is a fk up from a moral standpoint but feom a legal standpoint they’ve done nothing wrong. I’m not in anyway condoning it I’m as pissed off as a lot on here season ticket money down the drain. Like all of us on here I love the club but the disconnect between the fans and the club is so far apart it’s hard to fathom. I’ve got 70ish lads on our csc WhatsApp and it’s been off the scaLe last few days. To make a stand we need to collectively cut the snake at the head through finances but here’s where it’s difficult we support the team through anything I know in my head give up the book give them no more money but my heart says fk that get into every game back the team. Lawell knows this will never change so what do we do.

12 Jan 2021 21:02:13
Ed007

Fair play to him Kim Jong-un Lawell he has released a statement tonight which I think we should all take on board.


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{Ed007's Note - That better not translate to anything dodgy..... 🤔

12 Jan 2021 21:08:39
What I would want Lawwell to say is I understand I have underperformed for over a decade, have held Celtic back during this time and I resign with immediate effect.

{Ed007's Note - And you want him to come out on TV and say that? 😂😂 Name any other CEO in football that would be expected of plus imagine the ammo that would give his detractors about Lawwell's ego?
You started out with wanting him on TV talking about games we've lost now you're on about him resigning live on TV.
I don't think you understand what a CEO's job is and you're looking for Lawwell to do things that would make us - and him - look amateur and an even bigger laughing stock.
9IAR, a Quadruple Treble, appointed Rodgers and gave us The Invincibles, the biggest sponsorship deals ever in Scottish football, a record signing at £9 million, a record sale of £25 million plus other record sales fees at the time, working with the ECA and UEFA to keep Celtic and Scottish football relevant in European competitions is hardly underperforming imo. If you want to blame him for the bad things you also must recognise the good things, under his stewardship Celtic have given their fans some of the best days of their lives and memories that will last forever and are the envy of football fans world wide.
Lawwell has his faults - which are legion - and has made mistakes & bad decisions but to say he has underperformed as a CEO is well wide of the mark.}

12 Jan 2021 21:16:03
Welshy I’ve had the same thoughts today. A lot of fans want to back the team but at the same time hit the board where it hurts. That would need a bit of thinking and a coordinated approach on our behalf.

12 Jan 2021 21:35:37
Ed007 well said. Lawell needs to go but that doesn’t detract from his achievements. Ye wouldn’t let him look after your dog but you’d let him after you’re money every day of the week. 👍 PS: nae idea what the Korean text says just copied it right aff the internet. It might say ‘geez a cheeseburger Ed please’ or ‘God bless the Pope’ Ed I’ve nae idea! 😂.

{Ed007's Note - 😁

12 Jan 2021 21:39:26
😂😂😂.

12 Jan 2021 22:00:27
jfp it translates as i peter lawell kim jong-un would like to say thank you to my chefs and money counterer.

12 Jan 2021 22:10:27
Ed your post earlier nailed the mentality of the club and the split in the fan base. Lawell has done great things Lennon earned the right to be remembered but there comes a time when times change and people get left behind. I read Sean fallons biography and he talked about stein clinging on too long should’ve gone to Utd when he had the chance more from a the point of view that normality replaces hunger but his love for the club outweighs everything else. We as a club have got used to the norm there is no hunger but even the bestt/ loved of their time have to move on Like u said “keep ahead of the Sevconians” that has been accepted by too many. I’m fkn raging they got away with the euro disaster cos “10 is all that matters” and we let them. So many times this season where the warning signs were there to make change to prevent where we are now so for all the good we’ve had that is pure incompetence. Someone has to be made accountable is fans deserve it.

{Ed007's Note - 👍👍👍👍👍

12 Jan 2021 18:22:42
Why can't that management trying to blame C.V. government mis manager they are to blame monkeys as your a disgrace do you think you represent celtic were in the gutter where you put us leave before any more happens this has been a saga you haven't got a scooby and trying to say the fans are behind you really well only behind you chasing you out of paradise so do us a favour and resign now put real football management and coaches as this mob a shambles.

12 Jan 2021 16:35:25
Hi Ed
Hope all is well have not posted for a while had a lot happening in my life with the C.V. but all getting better now thank god.
Now on to our team l am old enough to have lived through good Times and bad times and you are correct when you say about how some fans are obsessed with how they are doing.
I can go back to the Seville year when we had the chance to build and make a name in Europe again but since then we have been downsizing for years.
This season has been when all the bad decisions and running of the club from top to bottom have come to the fore.
Our recruitment policy has been awful for sometime, l don't know who watches the players we sign and l cannot remember the last player we signed who became a regular straight away and hit the ground running.
Now on to this Dubai trip we have a world wide C.V. going on people are losing loved ones cannot see them in hospitals or care homes or when family members are ill and could do with their family around them. l have lived in England for over 30 years and the last time l was home was the Copenhagen game and yet our club think it is ok to go away and at this moment in time l don't think there has been such a gulf between us and the idiots that run the club we need change from every position in the club but l will not be holding my breathe.
Everybody stay safe stick to the rules and look out for family, friends and anybody who is feeling lonely at the moment a little phone call can mean a lot.

12 Jan 2021 17:42:12
Completely agree mate there's always been a weird obsession with them by a lot of our fans, even on this page there's a few that are obsessed with all things Sevco. I will never understand it.

This season has sadly been one disaster after another and i think its time to start planning for next season now and I'd start by bringing in a new management team and selling the players that don't want to be here but i know that ain't going to happen.

12 Jan 2021 18:27:03
Dc 7591 any Celtic supporter that defines themselves by them need a long hard look at themselves. I honestly believe though that that is the case significantly less than it is in reverse. My old man was a Motherwell supporter. He worked in the Gorbals for 30 years and would always say I’ll concede this John. The average Celtic fan I’ve met is motivated by a love of his own club. The average Rangers supporter I’ve met is motivated by a hatred of all things green and white, Irish and Roman Catholic. If they were playing out my back I wouldn’t open the curtains. If they went bust I would care not a jot. If I never seen them in this life again it would be a day to soon. They are a festering sore on the side of humanity and an irrelevance.

12 Jan 2021 19:43:50
First time poster, long time reader
Shocked by the state of affairs now
Lowest I’ve felt about things for a while and can’t see this management group changing things, difficult to see way forward without a clear out but has Des got the bottle or desire?
This mentality of just being better than those from the south doesn’t help.

12 Jan 2021 20:01:42
If he doesn’t Des will need to develop the desire or watch season ticket sales decline his shares decimated and his assets depreciate. I’m hanging my hat on the fact that businessmen with money are usually along way from daft and don’t like losing money.

12 Jan 2021 15:30:08
After last nights keeper error, I remembered in the summer we were heavily linked with Karl Darlow from Newcastle . At the time we were quoted 4 million for him, we vaulted at the price and now he has made more saves than any other keeper in the premier league. He could have been the answer to our problem this season and saved us untold points.

12 Jan 2021 16:16:39
Why was Craig Gordon allowed to leave?

There were many that didn’t rate him and he was undoubtedly prone to a rush of blood to the head but he was an excellent shot stopper for me and better than anything we currently have. Another of this seasons decisions to feckn ponder.

Buzz Bomb I think we should compile a feck up and blunders list for season 20/ 21 and send it to Kim Jong-un Lawell.

12 Jan 2021 17:12:35
The 6 million quoted left back was the root cause of the goal . and then 3 men on the post who couldn't close down or block the shot one of which was the 6million rated left back.

12 Jan 2021 17:27:30
Craig Gordon is a great keeper but he isn’t very good with the ball at his feet.
Lennon doesn’t like to use the keeper to keep possession and that would’ve suited Gordon. I’m sure Craig would’ve made the Number 1 jersey his own this season.
Celtic offered him a new contract but it was a massive drop in wages and I think Craig Gordon was offended by the very low offer.
JFP,
We’ve all lost count of the poor and self inflicted goals our team has conceded this season.
I’m now looking forward to this season ending but at the same time, hopefully Celtic can still win a 5th Scottish Cup in a row.

12 Jan 2021 17:42:19
Cheers BB 👍.

12 Jan 2021 18:12:44
Craig made some big saves in big games for us during the years. I think Lennon was a 100% sure Foster was going to say and that's why they didn't try to convince him to stay. David Marshall was on free and Scotland no 1. Again it goes back to our management, board and scouting because who ever scouted Barkas got it wrong.

12 Jan 2021 23:57:38
Barkas hasn’t played behind anything resembling a defence since the day he signed. He didn’t suddenly become a bad keeper, he did however join a club with very poor coaching staff who can’t organise defence in front of him.

13 Jan 2021 02:04:32
Dubravka can't get a game now Darlow is keeping him out the team. Always thought he was a decent keeper.

12 Jan 2021 12:00:34
Unfortunately we aren't likely to hear much during the player and managements isolation period. However the only man that can address the current situation is Dermot Desmond the reason being is that everything under that needs cleared out namely Lawell, Lennon, Hammond and Kennedy. The last we heard from the board was before the turn of the year after the fan protests when we were told by the men behind the wire that the aforementioned were capable of turning things around. That has now proven dramatic not to be the case and that fact should be acknowledged today. They now have no credibility and should be sacked and a combined statement come apology made to the fans today.

We are where we are through mismanagement on and off the field at every level culminating in the latest debacle that was pints in Dubai. The club has shown nothing but contempt for the fans and have allowed a widening disconnect to develop. As we agreed yesterday we collectively bankrolled the dream and they let it die. They gambled with the 10 and lost it last night while 13 players and the management team self isolated as a result of a monumental act of self harm gross negligence and arrogance. The club were caught asleep at the wheel to quote the Green Brigade warning that the board chose to ignore and we live to regret. It's not the losing the league we can do defeat it's the total lack of professionalism and the manner of the collapse.

Change is needed now to prevent our free fall and further demise. The good news is the league is lost within the first two weeks of January which gives us the opportunity to sell our prize assets and want aways if there are buyers appoint a new management team and let the rebuild commence for next season. Mr Desmond acted to bankroll Martin O'Neil and to appoint Rodgers after Ronnie. Action of that magnitude is again needed now. Mr Desmond needs to pull something special out of the hat as a managerial appointment to have any hope of 50,000 season tickets and 10,000 on the waiting list next season. Because that won't happen otherwise and the one thing he should understand is the financial implications of that for him as the majority shareholder.

12 Jan 2021 14:25:43
JFP I watched the game last night and lawell was sitting in the stand wearing a mask so obviously he is not at home isolating. maybe he should come out and make an explanation to the fans. won't hold my breath though.

12 Jan 2021 14:47:57
Did you notice lawells nose last night? looks like he is tanning the buckie.

12 Jan 2021 11:26:18
Just read Sky Sports football page.
Check out "Nuno explains Wolves faith in youth"
I think that is exactly the type of Manager we should be trying to attract.
If not him, someone similar, but he would do me.
Pay the salary required instead of squandering money on Duffy etc.
We will reap the benefit going forward.

12 Jan 2021 12:00:53
Really rate him as a manager and he seems a decent bloke too. But don't think we've any chance of getting him at all, I'm surprised one of Europe's bigger clubs haven't gone in for him already.

12 Jan 2021 10:05:21
Talking about an overhaul how are we going to sell ajeti klimala barkas Taylor rogic who plays like he's about 50 . and some of the youths don't look up to it ajer will bring money I eddy as well although not as much as he should have. broony finished griff got a few years left. the club is a mess.

12 Jan 2021 11:02:20
Personally I wouldn't sell Ajeti, Klimala or Taylor. Get rid of guys who don't want to be here like Ntcham, Edouard, Christie, Julien when fit again, Ajer if he still wants to go.

12 Jan 2021 11:18:12
Taylor will continue to improve and he’s a good player who always gives 100%.
Unlike Tom Rogic.
This is the first time I’ve criticised Rogic but last night when Celtic needed him to at least try and step up but he failed again miserably.
He should’ve tried to set an example but he doesn’t look interested.
Young Harper had a nightmare and unfortunately was a nervous wreck.
He kept drifting wide and leaving no striker in the box.
Which meant Celtic only had 7 or 8 touches in the oppositions box,
Compared to Hibs having 20 touches in our box.

12 Jan 2021 11:14:35
Mally we aren't going to bring in a fresh 11, jesus, Taylor won't go, if anything we need cover and Taylors stats vs Laxalts proves we do better with Taylor in the team, not saying he is the answer but wouldn't gey rid as he's a squad player.

Need a stand out keeper who wins you 15pts a season, non are up to the task.

I would definitely sell Ajer for the right price albeit we can bring in good replacements, if folk actually think Gallagher is the answer your massively mistaken, he isn't and not at 29.

Welsh isn't anywhere near good enough he needs loaned out at minimum after this season.

Dembele should've been offered more game time as last night flashes of speed and desire to get forward were excellent however his progress has been stifled and its a massive tragedy when we want to follow in the footsteps of teams like Ajax!

I'd punt Christie as he will fetch money and I think he's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is, which is a shame as his selfish play at times slows the play down.

We need to invest early, and that begins with a manager, his own backroom staff, a new head of recruitment who works with the manager.

And finally get a new board in, Ed do you not fancy a crack at chief exec?

{Ed007's Note - No chance! The thing is - and it's another point about getting fan representation on the board - but once you join the board you are bound by your regulatory and fiduciary responsibilities as a board member and because of that you just become another board member and not the radical supporter on the board everyone would be looking for.
You can't rock the boat when you have responsibility to keep the ship steady.}

12 Jan 2021 12:10:15
With all the negativity surrounding the club it would have been nice to have woken up to some transfer activity today as we are desperately short for the next 2 games and we haven't got the best of cover in certain areas as it is with a full squad. Ajer has been our best defender this season by a mile so I wouldn't sell him in Jan. I feel he will want to move on in the summer so hopefully we get the right replacement lined up and not sell Ajer for £10m plus and replace him with the cheap option in Gallagher as we are only regressing even further.

12 Jan 2021 13:21:07
Good post Buzz and I'd say you're very kind as far as Rogic is concerned. At best you could say he's been 'unlucky with injuries" at worst a drain on the wage bill.

Young Harper breaking down with cramp after 58mins isn't a good sign and hopefully a one off.

12 Jan 2021 23:18:14
Harper breaking down with cramp was because he stepped up a level after years of youth football and as buzz said he was all over the place. He will settle down if he plays more, I for one would play a lot more youngsters now, let’s see what they’ve got as they can’t do worse than guys like rogic who is a passenger in 80% of games he plays.

12 Jan 2021 09:33:28
I've just read that we're recalling Scott Robertson and Ross Doohan from their loan spells at Ross County and Gillingham.

That's how bad the situation is and yet another consequence of the shambolic Dubai trip.

12 Jan 2021 10:26:36
Why not go the whole hog and get Bayo, Shved and Hendry while their at it? We are a very sorry state - From Invincibles and quadruple treblers to laughing stock in the blink of an eye. Breaks my heart.

12 Jan 2021 10:38:05
Doohan was on bench last night was he not?

12 Jan 2021 07:14:01
When the green brigade let off pyros, the club was fined £200 grand. All we heard from lennon and lawell was how they were embarrassing the club, Lawell silence this season tells its own tale, him, the board, the management team and a vast majority of the players have done infinite more damage to us this season. We have rolled from one disaster to another, Dubai has just hit the final nail in the coffin. The fans have been taken for granted for so long now, only the fact that rangers have been so poor the last few years has it been glossed over, but we have been stumbling into this situation for at least the last couple of years . Constantly selling our best players, ( I appreciate most only have a shelf life in Scotland for 2-3 years at best) but then we scatter gun approach with several cheap options in the vain hope that we uncover a diamond., wasting millions in the process. The players look disinterested for large parts of the season, unfit . There has never been more disparity between the club and its fans. We need, now more than ever a new chief executive to come in, with Celtic football club at the heart of every decision not Celtic plc. No more fanciful talk of museums / hotels while our team on the park regress and continually get trounced in Europe . We need a modern thinking coach/ manager/ football director who can scout players and coach them to become better players. As a club we are now looking over a precipice, Dermot Desmond needs to get more involved from now, take charge and sort this mess out because if not we will go further downwards at an alarming rate. Unlike us, the rangers board will smell blood now and push on further to create more of a gap between us, while we were content to just do enough to keep a gap, I feel they will do everything possible to make us collapse. The constant arrogance of lawell towards the fans mean he won’t do the honourable thing, so it needs to be taken out of his hands. While he is there controlling everything things will only get worse.

12 Jan 2021 12:52:40
cant see to much of a change in the near future as all that's required takes time. don't think DD will get more involved as i feel he has lost a bit of interest in the club and that's why we are drifting from one mess to another, maybe let his son take responsibility or just jack it in and find a buyer.

{Ed007's Note - If we had a competent CEO Dermot Desmond wouldn't and shouldn't need to get involved.}

12 Jan 2021 12:55:49
Great post Quinn, think you have just spoken for the majority of us on here, think we all know what’s needed but our management and board don’t and that’s the scary thing. Should never had let’s them get close to us.

11 Jan 2021 23:23:17
Barnes 99/ 00 vs Mowbray 09/ 10 v Lennon 20/ 21 after 20 league games.

JB: won 13, draw 2, loss 5

TM: won 12, draw 5, loss 3

NL: won 13, draw 5, loss 2

2 were kicked out the door and 1 is bullet proof.

12 Jan 2021 08:33:59
See what happens after livi pump us. Twice. If we play that team on sat (dont think we have much choice) they will destroy us. Guthrie hat trick. can't believe it took 90 mins to concede from set piece last night. They will prob say Lenny has been unfortunate though.

12 Jan 2021 10:14:49
Lennon not there so not his fault, they'll probably say haha.

11 Jan 2021 22:22:17
We've really shot our selves in the foot this season and this disastrous trip to Dubai has to be the final straw.
Change needed now and let's start to rebuild for next season, get a proper management team in place, ship out the deadwood and the want away players.
Hail Hail🍀.

12 Jan 2021 10:31:33
Build the new team around Welsh, Soro and Turnbull.

Bring in the Germans to revamp the footballing side of our club.

I’m absolutely scunnered with the club. Not even acknowledging they made a mistake with the Dubai trip.
Lawell and Lennon can GTF. Desmond won’t sell until there’s a bRitish league and he can make his millions selling his shares then.

It’s been one thing after another since Lawell brought Lennon back.