Celtic Banter Archive November 08 2020

08 Nov 2020 19:23:43
Pleased with the result today but like a few have mentioned on here we just need to build slowly, confidence still looks a bit frail with all the goals we are letting in . There was a good spell in the second half when we looked like we were going to collapse again but thankfully we held out and got the third to settle us . Hopefully julien is back after the break and we can go with him and Ajer . For safety we should prob have Elhamed at right back . Hopefully we get all our players back without challenge or injury and keep plugging away, as much as it pains me to say it, the Sevconians look like they can stay unbeaten at least until we play them. We need to put a run together starting today 🙏.

08 Nov 2020 20:04:32
I hope we can keep Rogic fit because he gives us a different dimension.
In the last fortnight Rogic has started 4 games and played until at least 83 minutes in all those starts and he also came on in France.
I don’t remember him playing as many minutes under Ronnie and Brendan over a 14 day period.
Usually he got 60 minutes and then he was replaced.

08 Nov 2020 23:33:36
Rogic has pleasantly surprised me Buzz, because he had one foot out the door and was possibly disheartened when the move fell-through; however he has given 100% when asked and has made a huge difference in our creativity and that is much more than the malcontents.

09 Nov 2020 00:51:29
Rogic has made a difference. Hopefully he stays injury free.

09 Nov 2020 06:59:58
Careful Bhoys, I can see Kev and. Ed grabbing for their phones reading these positive comments about Rogic . They are massive fans of his 😂.

08 Nov 2020 19:20:44
Lennon said Frimpong might have ligament damage.
Why did Frimpong play on for 17 minutes after the challenge when we were 2-0 up?

08 Nov 2020 19:42:30
Buzz that in itself is part of the problem. He has 5 subs he can use? El hamed was on tge bench. Not surprised he is hurt. It was a shocking tackle. Only this worse was that idiot Dallas thinking it was eventually a yellow!

08 Nov 2020 23:38:35
Celtic players have been assaulted and injured since the season began with blind-wyes and smug grins, while our injuries mount-up. Can you imagine for one second if this was happening to TRIFC 2012 - there would be a riot and referees demoted or barred from their matches. Celtic have to speak-up now; however I agree the manager has to see what is being done and be the 'first responder'.

09 Nov 2020 10:51:28
If he has got ligament damage then that's on the medical staff who let him play on. Even minimal damage would cause enough pain to negate the risk of playing on.

08 Nov 2020 15:41:08
going by some posts on here regarding todays game you would think some wanted us to get beat today.

08 Nov 2020 16:05:58
Your 100% correct liam, disgraceful behavior from some of the members on here. it makes me wonder why some of them actually say they are Celtic supporters, doesn’t sound like it by their posts.

08 Nov 2020 18:35:36
There's a lot of new usernames on the go nowadays.

08 Nov 2020 18:38:03
spoiled generations.
If we get beat - sack Lennon
If we draw - sack Lennon
If we win but don't win by 5 clear goals - sack Lennon.
If we win but so do sevco - sack Lennon
Pisses me right off at times.
I even believe that if Lennon left and they brought in Howe, MON, or any other manager and we did not win the league. They would blame Lennon.

08 Nov 2020 18:48:53
Tim I wouldn't blame Lennon I would blame the board for having him as manager even though he is gash.

08 Nov 2020 19:21:58
Lennon deserves the flak he has been receiving as it is solely Lennon who picks the team, deploys tactics and insisted on playing Duffy even although he has caused an alarming amount of goals.

One win against Motherwell does not change a thing. We need constiency and losing goals at set pieces need addressed.

08 Nov 2020 22:49:41
nobody said it does and you need to win games to find consistency and we won today so let's see if we can build on that.

09 Nov 2020 08:18:58
Philtim 88,
Deserving stick if it's constructive fair enough. Some of the comments i've read online have been brutal. Calling him alky, questioning his mental health and various other things is disgusting.

Us the support have over played 10 in a row. Been singing about it from 4 onwards. 9 league titles and a possible quadruple treble is seen as failure. Pathetic how spoilt the support have become.

08 Nov 2020 15:27:04
Well we won with a few goals to spare. But by no means it is all rosy. Yes we took the goals well and started decent and finally started to press the ball and try put the opposition under pressure.

But there is some serious questions on the fitness level. Yes we are playing a lot of games but some players like brown in particular was done after the hour. A few others were not far behind him. How can these guys appear not to be fit? It's now in Nov for god sake.

We all know the defending has been very poor and was certainly better today with guy putting their bodies on the line. But a big reason too is the defence seems to be getting very little help from the sitting midfields in front of them. I do feel it's down to fitness as we fade and badly during games.

How or why does Lennon not then make changes when it's clear to see some players are gone after an hour. I feel for both soro and particularly Turnbull must be fuming. The lad is getting no chances and if l was him l would ask to go out on loan in January as Lennon clearly doesn't fancy him.

Yes we have won which is great and not to be overlooked but things still do not seem right to me. The body language that both eddy and ntcham give off does not fill me with confidence.

08 Nov 2020 15:40:13
Saved me writing a similar post; although I was very pleased with the way we played the first half and should have had more goals.
Leaving Eddy and Ntcham out of the starting line-up shows he is acting on the issue and bringing Duffy on for a short spell might have been a risk, but it was good man-management with a guy low on confidence and helped get Thursday out his system.
Can't get complacent; or even carry on the momentum as we now have two weeks to worry about CV affecting any more of our players.

08 Nov 2020 16:07:35
It was a good victory today and if we can win at Easter Road it will be game on.
A big negative for me is we’re still giving away too many set pieces around our box.
And there’s an inevitability about conceding when we allow constant balls into our area for the opposition to attack.
The fans want our players to put tackles in but we need to tackle properly.
I counted 7 set pieces into our box in the first 24 minutes.
Four free kicks and three corners.
It’s far too many because it was the only time Motherwell looked threatening.

08 Nov 2020 17:29:25
We tend to give away these free kicks because we are to slow to second ball is this down to lack of timing or fitness? Hh good posted ter and cm.

08 Nov 2020 18:30:52
To be honest some of the free kicks awarded against us were laughable the same tackles against us were denied as were some that were worse.

08 Nov 2020 18:38:05
Wow you lot are nothing but a bunch of moaning sods! Let’s just get behind our team and manager and go fo ten in a row . hail hail.

08 Nov 2020 19:21:51
Clearly u have not been watching the games this year if u think that.

09 Nov 2020 12:22:16
Seems to be the same every game old Killy hh.

08 Nov 2020 14:27:43
Could only watch the first half, didn't think there was much difference from the performance on Thursday night, got two goals ahead because of a mixture of individual brilliance and a mistake by a Motherwell player, the midfield is still not right, the plan now seems to be is to bypass the midfield by giving the ball to Frimpong at the back and telling him to scamper up the wing, and forget about defending, if Motherwell had been a bit sharper, we would have been on the end of another bad result, .
Lenny needs to start Elhamed at right, every game, needs to start Ntcham every game and needs to start Brown on the bench every game, needs to tell McGregor, that he he is the man that can control the midfield.

08 Nov 2020 14:42:11
Needs to start ntcham every game! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 utter pish once again!

08 Nov 2020 14:43:41
Ntcham doesn't want to play for Celtic, where was the emotion after he scored.

08 Nov 2020 15:06:57
Sorry but things are bad enough without starting ntcham in every game. He is like eddy, they both don't give a toss.

08 Nov 2020 15:28:15
so you want to start a numpty and leave out the best player on the park today give it a rest.

08 Nov 2020 22:51:13
You are missing my point, Brown might have been the best player on the park, in your opinion, but the midfield didn't play well, and he is responsible for that, before Frimpong arrived, Brown would pass sideways or backwards, now he just gets it out to Frimpong, and relieved himself of the responsibility of creating something, I say put McGregor in Browns role, put Ntcham in the midfield and move thru the middle, I think the whole team would benefit from having a more creative mobile midfield.

08 Nov 2020 14:06:11
First things first, That's a far better performance today so very happy, but need to say that the ref ( Baby Dallas) was shocking, there were numerous minor infringements not given to us and given to Motherwell, which is frustrating and keep them in the game, but worst of all is that I don't think he was even going to give a foul for that shocking challenge on Frimpong, that's a straight red all day long, thankfully Frimpong seems to be ok.

08 Nov 2020 14:10:31
we pļayed just ok still shaky moments at the back and we still need to be better imo.

08 Nov 2020 14:20:34
Motherwell are junk, if NL or his staff thinks that's us back on track he's delusional, all today has done is buy him time. We should be winning every week against the likes of Motherwell, every big game we've played this season - we've lost.

08 Nov 2020 15:15:33
I thought we beat Aberdeen but then again a semi final is not a big game .

08 Nov 2020 16:38:43
The linesman had just as bad a shocker. 4 or 5 times he got the wrong call in favour of Motherwell.

08 Nov 2020 18:59:17
it is a start but the people who put that sheet up are dearranged they are never true celts some people are calling lennon and some of our team worse names than any rangers fan ever did lennon and the likes of brown have been great for us get a grip let's stop all this hype get behind the team remember always look on the bright side of life we will come good i have been a fan for seventy years i have seen a lot worse they are second top i have seen second bottom.

08 Nov 2020 13:57:26
Hey my friends much better performance today.

Enrico saw more snap in the tackles a will to win balls and Elyounousi was a class act with his finishing today.

Some nice flashes of good football today and Rogic footwork was very nice.

Still a lot of work to do but much improvement today.

Enrico thought broony was good game too.

Hail hail my friends 🍷💚.

08 Nov 2020 10:03:14
I'm a bit apprehensive about todays game for a number of reasons.
What team and formation is Lennon going to play today? He tends to stick to the same team after a poor result, as if trying to prove something.
Are the players going to be up for the game or have the lost total faith/ respect for the manager as seems to be the case IMO.
Motherwell are going to see this as a big chance to turn us over and they always try extra hard against us, so I expect nothing less today.
Let's see what today brings!

08 Nov 2020 10:39:01
Problem is that he has no idea what his best team or formation is. The way he chops and changes and then throws 5 subs on us not the sign of a manager who is confident in his beliefs. For me a victory will only paper over the cracks for a bit.

08 Nov 2020 10:43:05
Yeah I am normally really confident about our games but now I hope Motherwell forget what time kick off is and don't turn up lol that was a joke. Aslong as Duffy isn't playing I think we have a chance.

08 Nov 2020 10:51:38
He has stuck by a good few players who have let themselves and the team down, but persists with them because of the pressure his trust has put us under with so many poor performances and results.
Why play guys who don't want to be here and are affecting moral ahead of Welsh, Turnbull, Soro, Ajeti and of course Griffiths?

08 Nov 2020 11:13:47
Marco we should be confident playing any SPL team with the exception of the other mob and even then we should have a level of confidence but this hasn't been the case for a while now.
I read somewhere that lennon has spent over 30 mil since taking over so we really should be in a different league to SPL teams.
I get that there will be dropped points, as the players are only human so can't be at their best all the time but when that is the case we should be able to count on the players on the bench but a lot of them aren't even getting a sniff. WTF did we chase Turnbull for a couple of seasons and now give him a chance when he finally signs? Soro is another player I'd love to see get a chance.
I've just seen that the golden bhoy Brown starts again which I find disappointing!

08 Nov 2020 09:25:53
So after somewhat emotional (but honest) opinions from majority fans recently about the teams performance and leadership. I'm going to throw a question at you all.

We all want Lennon to do well, its good for the club its good for him as he is one of our own. The bigger picture is we are 9 points behind with 2 games in hand (likely 3 points of a difference) not the end of the world. But the panic button is we can't seem to string consecutive results together and Lennon until Thursday seemed lackadaisical on criticising the team and admitting problems (let's hope this has changed) .

Now to the question. We are looking from a response from players and fans and a continued domestic winning streak from now until the winter break - to ensure 10iar is required.

But.

What kind of a result this weekend would you be looking for to suggest Lennon has addressed the issue of players attitude and mentality?

08 Nov 2020 09:58:20
I don’t think a win today addresses the problem alone. It of course requires first and foremost winning result but the performance levels need to be 100% improved on and all that needs to be done over numerous games. Most thought after Lille and the semi against Aberdeen we were back, didn’t take long to realise the truth. What absolutely amazes me is an interview with lennon I read this morning where he states he made the team watch a rerun of thursdays game and that’s the first he’s done that in a long long time. well my god what about after the rangers debacle? Would that not be one of the first things you’d do with the team and sit them down and analyse the full shambolic 90 minutes? Same with the ferencvaros game? What are lennon and his coaching staff doing up at lennoxtown during the weeks?

08 Nov 2020 10:12:04
Gerry I seen that myself was a bit shocked. In modern day football following our defensive errors of late the team should be going through vigorous video analysis of our defensive errors and made to learn. It seems as though professional standards have dropped.
I was under no illusion with Lille or Aberdeen. Lille started well but the problems were seen after the 2nd half. Aberdeen was a stop gap, the players performed when it meant more to them but the performance in general was not breath taking as the way it was made out.

I'm expecting goals 2/ 3 minimum from our side. First to every ball and collecting scraps. Defensively solid and players putting there bodies in the way to get this result. Anything less shows - no change. I'd be happy to see leadership on the park supporting any mistakes but also players making others aware of their faults. Its moments like this that the bhoys become men and champions stand out.

08 Nov 2020 10:16:58
I think any result today will only paper over the cracks.
I know Lennon is a great servant to the club and is a fan but this shouldn't hide the fact that he isn't a great manager.
Tactically he can't seem to get to grips with our defensive problems and we no longer create much at the other end, also the fitness levels don't look great as we look out on our feet at the end of every game. Sevco are routinely outplaying us and Lennon has no idea how to reverse this trend.
I truly hope we get a result today as I hate all the gloating towards us at the moment but it shouldn't disguise the limitations of the manager and that things need to change sooner rather than later.

08 Nov 2020 10:46:11
It doesn't matter what the result is today, he has lost the dressing room and I think a victory today will only paper over the cracks, and with the 2 games in hand are you sure we would win those games they way we are playing at the moment because I am not so sure, also I don't think there is a winter break this year.

08 Nov 2020 11:04:43
Marco that's why fear is setting in because we can't string results together and there is no certainty that we can close that gap. This appears to be the first instance this season lennon could use a tough love approach if this doesn't work then we need a different manager to change things.

08 Nov 2020 07:39:07
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 7th November 2020

07 Nov 2020 23:50:32
Appreciate wee Chesney is DOF at Dundee but, if a deal could be done, would you take him until the end of the season to win the 10 and give us time to bring in a new manager in the summer?

08 Nov 2020 08:04:40
No. Steve Clark should be approached immediately after the serbia game👍.