Celtic Banter Archive October 04 2020

04 Oct 2020 22:59:03
I was happy to see that Brown was benched, it is the only way for the team to progress, Scott has been a great player and is a great captain, and motivator, but I think today's game showed, he is best coming on from the bench for the last ten or fifteen minutes.
Apart from Brown being benched I wasn't happy with the rest of the selection and formation, I am not a fan of 3 5 2,I think you should play your best players in their best positions, this playing players out of position, just so the team can play some phycedelic formation that comes straight out of that book that Ronnie used to follow, i. e football for dummies, just does not work, go back to 442,have a back four of Elhamed, Julien, Duffy and Taylor.
A middle four of Frimpong, McGregor, Ntcham and Turnbull
And a front two of Edouard and Griffiths
Or Ajeti and Griffiths
And bring Brown on for the last ten minutes if things aren't going well.
And a fit Ajeti must be the bargain buy of the season.

04 Oct 2020 23:19:40
So you don't think browns good enough but you think he's good enough to come on and save the day? Nonsense.

05 Oct 2020 18:27:17
Turnbull isn't a left midfielder either.

04 Oct 2020 16:20:19
Hi ed, do you have any idea if we are trying to bring in a CB? And who it could be? Maybe the American boy McKenzie? What do you think about going after the French CB SARR from Chelsea. Apparently he available for a loan.

{Ed007's Note - I think if we were going to sign McKenzie we would know because of work permit & visa applications. I think Sarr's going to Porto??}

05 Oct 2020 00:16:38
Not long now i personally don't think we will manage to get anyone in but won't be for the lack of trying. Its hard to get the right man in i appreciate this especially when clubs are holding out for big money loan fees they are a joke. The fact it takes three or now four parties to be happy to make a deal happen i don't hold out much hope at this late stage but there again like todays result we can leave it to late haha.

04 Oct 2020 21:07:34
If fit my team for the Sevco game would be

Barkas

Ajer Bitton Duffy Taylor

Brown McGregor

Frimpong Rogic Edouard

Griffiths.

04 Oct 2020 21:19:07
No chance mate a wrecking we would get bullied in the midfield frimpong edouard and Rogic struggle to stick the boot in and is Rogic even fit?

05 Oct 2020 02:30:20
4-3-2-1 for me. Cristie and Moi both as CAM in behind Eddy and Turnbull in with Brown and McGregor.

04 Oct 2020 19:03:27
I’ll take Snodgrass in a heartbeat we don’t have any bite in the team he would run through a brick wall for us.

04 Oct 2020 19:23:23
I'd also take the chance on lewis Ferguson. Think he has the potential. also hard worker gets stuck into opposition.

04 Oct 2020 20:25:06
We would have to pay a fair bit of cash to get Fergusson so it wouldn't be a noise up. I agree he has all the attributes you want in a midfielder was having a chat about his Uncle and Callum McGregor who was the better player Stats don't lie but if he was to go sometimes you need that bite and aggression that's either in you or not. Still like Calmac HH.

04 Oct 2020 21:43:54
Everyone said the same about Duffy welshy but he doesn't look to have improved us much.

04 Oct 2020 18:38:53
Anyway in the last year since 6th October 2019,
Celtic have played 36 domestic games,
Winning 33 games, drawing 2 and only losing 1 game.
That’s why we’re Champions. 🍀.

04 Oct 2020 19:08:17
thats incredible consistency.

04 Oct 2020 19:48:19
Both hard to disagree

BUT BUT BUT

Surely we have to be concerned about performance and the form of key players

Who is improving actually improving

What players are forming good relationships?

We are hit and miss and disjointed and often clueless

However, in fairness those stats are phenomenal

I do continue to worry but maybe our form will come and keep in mind . IF sevco come and open up maybe just maybe with space in abundance, we can see our better players take advantage of having grass to run in to . we actually looked good against an open hibs and last 10 minutes against Sarajevo.

04 Oct 2020 20:17:48
theres no doubt we are struggling performance wise lubo we are moving the ball nowhere near quick enough.

04 Oct 2020 21:06:43
I prefer a 442 but against that mob it be a 433 with brown in the holding position dropping back to make a back 3 with both fullbacks urged to get forward. Both wingers cutting in.

B
F D A T
B
T C
C E
EorG?

04 Oct 2020 17:59:19
Celtic have now played 22 domestic games this calendar year and winning 20 of those games.
Incredibly we have only played 8 domestic games at home and scored 30 goals.
The only games we didn’t win were away to Livingston and away to Kilmarnock, both matches played on a plastic pitch.

04 Oct 2020 18:19:15
I just want to add and to put it into context about how good a run Celtic are on.
Celtic have won 12 and drawn 2 in 14 away domestic games this calendar year.
In the last 14 domestic away games Rangers have played in,
They have only won 8 games and drawn 3 and also lost 3 games.
Rangers also didn’t win the away game before that also.
Although Celtic are not playing well which is worrying but we still manage to find the win from somewhere.
Celtic are a much better team at home and I just hope we turn up in 2 weeks time.

04 Oct 2020 17:13:48
Great result but a piss poor performance again.

Ajer woeful yet again but pops up to provide a hand in the goal. Elhamed doesn't convince me as a centre half.

Taylor and Frimpong created little. Midfield 3 didn't click especially Turnbull who was very poor. Christie always gets involved but was rotten when he came on.

Edouard not looking interested again. Elyounoussi isn't a CF.

Well done Griffiths. Changed the game when he came on. Klimala showing true determination with that goal. Hopefully his ability develops as the lad has shown a willingness to get stuck in.

352 appears about as effective as the 4231. Think we need to look at other options. Sevco game won't be a walk in the park and I don't hold out much hope for the European games. Next test is the transfer window deadline.

04 Oct 2020 17:40:23
BigBubs for me its got to be either 3-5-2 or 4-4-2. We play a lot better with 2 up top but I'm not convinced by Edouard so far this season. I reckon if we had got Toney he would of been away.

04 Oct 2020 17:45:38
. and that'll probably be as insipid as the performance.

04 Oct 2020 18:07:41
Got to give Captain Broonie praise as well. the guy cannot get a rest, came on and done what every great captain does, encouraged, kicked ass, basically made sure nobody was going to settle for a draw.

04 Oct 2020 16:46:43
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Whatever Happened To? Part 1: Barnsley

04 Oct 2020 14:46:01
Great result and three points Fantastic to see Griffiths back. Eddy looks like he wants to be anywhere else other than Celtic Park. Griffiths and Ajeti if fit would start for me against them. I'd even play Patrick before Eddy. He can warm the bench and be called upon if need be if he's still at the club. Snodgrass rumours makes me think not. Who'd bet against Griffiths scoring against them. I'm sure he doesn't need us reminding him of what they were singing when he wasn't well. Finally, Scott Browns influence on Celtic cannot be underestimated. For all the talent we have at our disposal he is one player we have no natural replacement for. Well done Celtic. God Bless. jfp.

04 Oct 2020 14:55:05
That we an assault on paddy and a red card and still think we should have had a pen.

04 Oct 2020 16:58:47
If that doesn’t prove to Lennon what two strikers bring nothing will. Got the result but other than that, no where near good enough. We must be the easiest team on the planet to set up against and nullify coz every game is like watching a rerun of a rotten movie.
We have lots of very good football players who can’t ALL be having off days at the same time every week. Lennon got out of jail today.

04 Oct 2020 14:28:22
Just had a look at the league table as it always states "As It Stands". Surprise, surprise it now reads "How it Stood" just because they will never allow Sevco to be second.

04 Oct 2020 14:16:25
Lenny was asked about Snodgrass but have nothing away and says he expects to be busy. please give us a lb wee Taylor ain't cutting it.

04 Oct 2020 14:33:15
Taylor was rotten the day.

{Ed007's Note - So was Frimpong.}

04 Oct 2020 14:41:24
To be fair to Frimpong though ed, he has been man of the match 3 games in a row and because of that is starting to be doubled up on.

{Ed007's Note - I couldn't a monkey's fart about MOTM awards, the point is that Frimpong was rank rotten today and yet people are still girning about Taylor who is improving in every game while learning a new position. Taylor was bought to play as a LB not as a WB.}

04 Oct 2020 14:47:29
He's not powerful enough and gives it away too often frimpong wasn't great but at least he can go by opponents and wins free kicks they were queing up to boot him thought the ref was awful.

{Ed007's Note - He can win free-kicks? Jesus wept man! What does he do when he goes by opponents, hee-haw. Just because someone can run fast doesn't make them a good player, if he didn't have pace what would he offer the team in the attacking third?
Where will Frimpong play in a 3-5-2 when Forrest is fit?}

04 Oct 2020 14:48:58
I thought Christie and Turnbull were worse which was disappointing after the latter’s McStayesque pass for the goal last week. Early days though.

04 Oct 2020 14:54:30
Ed you seriously think Taylor is improving? He is never a Celtic player in the month of Sundays, anyome who has kicked a ball knows that. To say he is improving is worrying as he cannot get any worse.

{Ed007's Note - The guy's playing out of his natural position, you don't need to have kicked a ball to know that. And I think you'll find he is a Celtic player, he's got a contract and everything.}

04 Oct 2020 14:57:21
He does win free kicks which can lead to goals when Taylor gets the ball it breaks down to often and his final ball is also suspect imo.

{Ed007's Note - And yet he's got more assists than Frimpong has. How many of our goals have came from the free-kicks he wins? People need to get it into their heads that we're playing a LB as a WB - two completely different positions that require different qualities - stop comparing him to KT and lay off the kid.
Would you ask Mikey Johnston or MOI to play as a LB in a back 4 or even WB in a 3-5-2? Maybe we should try McGregor out there again.}

04 Oct 2020 14:59:26
im with ed007 on this one. a lot of people have to get of taylors back he has put in some good performances and some not so good. he has good stats for the season to be fair also. he has made a big step up from kilmarnock to a massive club like ours and has to attack more give him time i think he will turn out well. i like taylor defensive side he gets stuck in he just has to work on taking his man on more.

{Ed007's Note - Taylor should check his family tree and see if he qualifies for an Irish passport.}

04 Oct 2020 15:15:50
Am not comparing him to kt ed he's tidy in possession but a modern lb still has to get up the line. av backed him on here but recently he looks a wee bit sluggish imo we need better.

{Ed007's Note - I like my defenders to be able to defend and Taylor does that. Modern RB's need to defend and Frimpong is as suspect at that as Taylor is going forward.}

04 Oct 2020 15:35:20
Frimpong is not a full back Taylor is not winger sort it out then wee will see the best.

04 Oct 2020 15:43:19
taylors assists come from mcgregor playing him in on the overlap to get his crosses or cut backs in 9 times out of 10 frimpong has to beat his man to get his in, i think he's getting better and is a safe option but i think we can definitely do better for me a LB should be able to play LWB its not as if its we are asking a CM to step in there. iT seems to be the ones that like taylor who actually are the ones who are saying stop comparing him to KT i haven't heard anyone do that just because some fans don't rate him doesn't mean he's getting compared to KT. i think taylor gets caught out just as much as frimpong playing in 3/ 5/ 2 also when teams sit in as deep as they are then we need someone to beat there man frimpong does that.

{Ed007's Note - A LB's job is to defend, a LWB has to defend and do the job of a winger, if you've never played as a winger how are you meant to do that without being given time to learn the job. By your reckoning then a LW should be able to play as a LB.}

04 Oct 2020 16:07:09
Taylor is a tidy player. He just lacks pace to get by a man which gives the side a lack of balance in a 352. Hopefully we bring in a good enough LWB.

04 Oct 2020 16:44:41
No. you can't learn pace if your slow your slow.

04 Oct 2020 16:31:52
Taylor is a good honest professional, gives his all for the team. Sometimes he comes up short but who doesn't that plays for us I suspect the reason some people give him such a hard time ed007 is his supposed allegiance to another club that we don't like 🤔
What says you ed?

{Ed007's Note - It could be mate with some fans which is just sad imo. I'd have Taylor over Bolingoli everyday of the week and we had fans changing their social media names over him ffs. Maybe if a video of Taylor singing The Rebs was leaked to social media or if he qualified for an Irish passport he would get some more slack eh? 🎣
And anyone thinking just replacing Taylor is going to help our style of play are kidding themselves on. Taylor is never going to be a world beater but like Super Jonny Hayes before him and countless other players over the years will do their job in the SPFL for us, he will give 100% and make mistakes but run himself into the ground for the team while other players offer very little and are lauded over.}

04 Oct 2020 13:59:10
Well squeaky bum time however didn't give in till fat lady sings well done griff and polish paddy that's why we are champs saints well organised always a tough venue credit where its due 🍀😀🍀.

04 Oct 2020 14:06:43
They were also a bunch of hacking barstewards and the ref let them away with it.

04 Oct 2020 14:15:33
Lennon the ref was breaking up play constantly.

04 Oct 2020 14:21:21
Ntcham really never really gets an 8 out of ten me personally I would flogg him tbh.

04 Oct 2020 14:29:26
Yes he was breaking up play constantly but there were very little bookings, which is what I meant when I said he was letting them away with it.

04 Oct 2020 15:41:39
Will the same st John's play the same against sevco? Don't think so hh.

04 Oct 2020 16:35:22
He could do some damage in 20 minutes though.

04 Oct 2020 13:54:19
Murder to watch. But will take the 3 points. Thank god.

04 Oct 2020 13:57:52
We have seen these games before. We were brutal butwe get the job done more often than not. Was similar to the cup game last season.

04 Oct 2020 13:53:36
Ref was shocking today as he was letting them foul us all day.

Glad and relieved that Griffiths and Klimala rescued the points and sent the ref home feeling gutted he didn't manage to get the result for his favourite team.

Despite that I am sure he will still be welcome in the crown with his fellow whistlers.

04 Oct 2020 13:55:37
he was poor mate.

04 Oct 2020 13:58:44
Gave foul on Frimpong and pulled it all the way back, Joke. To be expected. Loved Ajer pass for the goal made it possible.

04 Oct 2020 13:17:18
So flat yet again. We have too many touches especially sideways and backwards . Too many players off form.

04 Oct 2020 13:27:06
Same every game, 3-5-2 is too defensive against teams like st Johnstone, when the side to side passing isn't working they hit over weighted passes on the constant, out for a throw in/ goal kick then start again, its hard to watch, zero excitement.

04 Oct 2020 13:29:02
They clearly don’t want to play for Lennon, he’s the problem!

04 Oct 2020 13:30:44
Taylor is useless can’t even get past his man
That’s shocking.

04 Oct 2020 13:49:34
Well done griff. 😃.

04 Oct 2020 13:59:05
I thought taylor was one of the better players today as he was trying and making himself available.

In reply to OP, it is hard to play the ball forward when too many of our players were hiding and not making themselves available.

Really hope we punt ntcham before the window closes.

04 Oct 2020 14:00:41
Never any doubt 😂.

04 Oct 2020 14:11:19
I agree LAW Ntcham has to go as he quite clearly doesn't want to be here, no urgency or desire from him whatsoever.
Hopefully we get an offer for him tomorrow and take it.

The way eddy is playing I would offload him as well, probably not what anyone wants to hear but if these guy's don't want to be here what is the point in playing someone who has downed tools?

04 Oct 2020 15:51:59
How often do wee see 21 players in halve a pitch? Football was not designed that way it's hard to watch sorry but been watching since 1964 and at times it breaks my heart rant over for now hh.

04 Oct 2020 18:40:10
Jic . interesting. it does make for a bore fest

Eddy at 40m however? We are entitled to expect more

Shame, as he was my 10iar banker but even he fails to lift the spirit

We all talk up a wee bhoy, frimpong, and he has a LOT to develop to be decent and yet we glorify his contributions. that tells me we are poor as any other RWB with such poor deli very would be crucified

Christie for me, stats aside, is just a wreck of contradiction . I don't think he knows what will happen next as His brain guides his boots. never a ACM . again stats decent bot then with greed like that.

The list of inconsistent players grows and grows and yet they play

I blame lennon as the lethargy and complacency comes from him and his job is to stop it

Graham.

04 Oct 2020 12:52:30
For all the christie moaners, oh to have him on the park now. The odd stray shot while also being involved in so many goals has got to be better that no shots and involved in nothing. Swap him for waste of a Jersey Nchamp!

04 Oct 2020 13:34:20
Why does he hit free kicks he’s murder at them!

04 Oct 2020 12:41:12
Was really hoping we would finally turn up today but more of the same.

Formation doesn't work. Elyonoussi isn't a right sided forward, he's a left winger. Very strange.

This formation will never work with Taylor as a wingback. Just go back to a 4231

Barkas
Elhamed
Duffy
Ajer
Taylor

Ntcham
Cal

Frimpong
Turnbull
Elyounoussi

Edouard

That's the most sensible formation to play with the players we have on the park.

04 Oct 2020 12:52:11
Wish Ronny was still here. This is murder to watch. Same old same old. Going to b a long painful season.

04 Oct 2020 11:47:52
Great line up today
3 mobile midfielders and a bit of guile in behind eddy in Moi

This is the perfect line up to deal with a deep lying team on a small pitch. they have lost 3 in a row narrowly and so will be dogged and rough

Brown would have been a passenger today

The only issue with the middle 3 is lack of game time together and so there could be a few gaps

Prediction

St Johnstone 0 Celtic 3.

04 Oct 2020 16:11:20
Yes labo that work out weLl hh.

04 Oct 2020 10:48:02
brown dropped turnbull starts.

04 Oct 2020 11:53:51
I think he is getting rested more than dropped. But saying that looking forward to see how this line up works together looks good.

{Ed007's Note - According to my nephew it's because Brown would miss the derby game if he got booked today.}

04 Oct 2020 12:08:57
Interesting Ed.

{Ed007's Note - Buzz will know better than me. And get your bahooky on the live chat, Lubo!}

04 Oct 2020 08:55:33
I don't think we have any spinning plates anymore. I think they might have all crashed and now I think we will be looking for some quick fixes.

04 Oct 2020 10:45:03
I agree Marco, not long to go in the window. if they are to do anything it best be a spectacular double signing of a lb and rw.

04 Oct 2020 12:11:39
It is not good enough. we all know we need a left sided LB or LWB

We let boli go ( noting circumstances) and a reserve left back . we need to plug this gap

It feels a little amateurish noting how blatant the need is

Are we that unattractive?

{Ed007's Note - We don't need a LB imo, we need a LWB. We have a perfectly good LB in Taylor.}

04 Oct 2020 12:53:54
Whats the chances of us pulling off a lwb ED007?

{Ed007's Note - I'm not into that mate but each to their own, there's no judgement about that on here 👊💦

04 Oct 2020 14:16:56
Funny i see snodgrass being linked what about a left wing back.

04 Oct 2020 07:39:09
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 4th October 2020