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18 Feb 2024 11:00:00
David Moyes will be sacked and Celtic's next manager.
Not that i want it, but it's a DD stick on.

Jungle john

1.) 18 Feb 2024 11:25:23
Cheers JJ,

The hits just keep on coming.

☘️ ? ☘️.


2.) 18 Feb 2024 13:06:35
Please no. I sometimes go into the WH Banter page. Virtually to a man and woman, they all want Moyes out. They say the football under Moyes is all defensive minded and horrible to watch. We shouldn't be changing manager at the business end of the season.


 

 

06 Jul 2023 20:43:20
Anyone got any clue to any potential incomings. I was wondering if BR has maybe changed direction on some of the clubs more expensive targerts for a few of his own.

Jungle john

1.) 07 Jul 2023 09:33:38
I think the bigger signings will come as the 'housekeeping' gets underway with the current squad. We have made a couple of signings that were probably targeted last season and extending contracts of important players (hopefully CCV among them) . Then I would hope, a clear-out of the excess and deadwood to make way for more quality?


2.) 07 Jul 2023 12:46:44
Reider, Jashari, Tete, GK, LB, CB.

That’s what’s I’ve heard.


3.) 07 Jul 2023 15:50:18
If we get reider and tete that would add to maeda, Haksabanovic and abada, can't see James or mikey getting a sniff this season, so 5 wide men, with the South Korean that's 6, wo can't see reider and tete both joining.

Holding midfielder, cb and keeper are key areas.

Any of the u21s might get a break through this season? Never seen many of their games.

{Ed007's Note - Reider is a CM/CAM.}


4.) 07 Jul 2023 17:02:18
Ed I believe the club had high hopes the young boy Dawson would break into the first squad this season until his really bad injury, so I guess they'll be looking else where now to give the boy time to recover and get some game time again.

{Ed007's Note - Yeah that was a shame Dawson got injured, hopefully he can come back and continue his rise.}


5.) 07 Jul 2023 18:32:11
It’s quiet. Too quiet. Circle the wagons. They’re a coming. Hopefully soon, or sooner. The fact there is no real info suggests we are ready to strike. All the names mentioned are conjecture and guessing. I hope we get the Swiss lad, but I won’t be holding my breath. If he’s as good as they say, coming to the SPFL doesn’t seem plausible. Hopefully he sees the CL as a way to put himself in a shop window full of riches. It’s one thing wanting a different level player, magic, but will they come here? I hope so.


6.) 07 Jul 2023 18:54:46
Kelly being spoken highly of rodgers apparently likes him frame if he signs a new deal anderson as well.


 

 

05 Jul 2023 20:37:37
Any news on our injuries from last season. Ccv, AJ, are they back training?

Jungle john

{Ed007's Note - CCV is back training but I'm not sure about Baby Moyes.}


1.) 05 Jul 2023 20:58:45
That's gd news about ccv. we need him back and fit ASAP. AJ also. thanks mate?.

{Ed007's Note - No probs?with no CL qualifiers and so long until our first competitive match I wouldn't worry about AJ.}


2.) 06 Jul 2023 11:10:22
Wasn't AJ playing for Canada a couple of weeks ago or is this a new injury?


 

 

06 Jul 2020 11:40:27
With NL confirming a deal has been agreed with Southampton am really surprised forster is stalling.
There must be someone else sniffing around him.

Jungle john

1.) 06 Jul 2020 13:02:01
The talk was that he didn't want a loan with an option to buy he wanted the security of a permanent deal. If that's the case and we had a fee agreed for the end of the loan deal then surely we can just pay it now instead of next year.


2.) 06 Jul 2020 13:25:51
I think he was wanting a permanent deal and not a loan one. There’s talk of Crystal Palace making a £25 million bid for eduouard I don’t think he would go there. We need 2 goalkeepers a centre half and a right winger to challenge Forrest.


3.) 06 Jul 2020 13:56:58
Understandable on Forsters behalf. He has around £2M contract with Southampton over the next 2 years. I doubt the biggest hoops fan in the world would write off £60k per week to be part of 10 in a row.
My guess is he will want a significant amount of that paid off in order to move. If Southampton agreed the loan deal it shows he's not going to get a chance down there. I think this one could drag on for a while hopefully we don't let other targets slip through the net in the meantime.


4.) 06 Jul 2020 14:06:39
Understand it from Fraser's point of view with wanting a secure contract but honestly can't see a deal being completed unless celtic pay over the odds.
Apparently he's on 90k a week with Southampton and if he came to us on a permanent deal the most we would likely be able to offer at a push would be 45k a week.
Hopefully no one else comes in for him and we can get a deal done but with time going on I can't see us playing the waiting game.


5.) 06 Jul 2020 15:11:02
Forster has every right to look after himself. Not believing Celtic agreed terms with Southampton without asking Forster if he wanted to return. He's went back on his word, would forget about him and move on. No one is bigger than Celtic.


6.) 06 Jul 2020 21:30:51
You have no idea whether he gave his word on anything ninja.


7.) 07 Jul 2020 00:08:42
BT presenter Darrell Currie claims the Forster deal to Celtic is still ON. 🙏.


8.) 07 Jul 2020 02:58:53
The deal is very much on.


 

 

13 Aug 2019 09:51:28
Reports in Norway saying there is no interest at the moment from Celtic for meling.
I think it's more likely Taylor Celtic will go for. very highly rated knows the league so could go straight in to the starting 11.
It wouldn't be a bad move imo.

Jungle john

1.) 13 Aug 2019 10:42:54
I agree Jj
Because Taylor isn't a big name many fans are saying he's Tom Kite. He has been excellent for Killie and I think a move to a bigger club would bring him on leaps and bounds. He's young, he's a strong player and I have no doubt he'd love the move to Paradise. I asked the question before: would KT have been as good a player as he was if he had been playing for any other SPL side? HH.


2.) 13 Aug 2019 11:31:24
Wouldn't call Melling a big name bob.


3.) 13 Aug 2019 12:34:47
The Rosenberg manager is quoted saying he will leave and most if the written press have run this story. yoy never know they just might be right for once.


4.) 13 Aug 2019 12:37:46
Well lots of people are raving about him as the next Messiah. I've no doubt he's a good player, all I'm saying is people shouldn't write off Taylor because he's from the SPL. HH.


5.) 13 Aug 2019 13:33:54
Think a lot are raving about him because we've actually seen him and he stood out like a sore thumb.
He also has plenty experience of winning titles playing internationals and playing in Europe. He's 1st ready.
Taylor is definitely a good player as well with experience in Scotland but will he be good enough to walk straight in to our team?
I don't know. He could be a star or he could need a few years like Christie did.
But end if the day every signing a gamble.


6.) 13 Aug 2019 13:58:54
Totally agree Bob, we got Brown from the SPL and Griffith's HH.


7.) 13 Aug 2019 14:07:47
Not seen much if Taylor but size wise he looks quite small.


8.) 13 Aug 2019 14:09:12
We didn't get Griffiths from spl AGG.


9.) 13 Aug 2019 14:38:01
I would even go as far as to suggest getting Melling and Taylor which would allow boli to be moved further up the pitch.


10.) 13 Aug 2019 14:38:18
How good is Taylor, have to admit I haven’t seen much of him . When we have played Rosenborg meiling has looked their best player.


11.) 13 Aug 2019 15:44:17
I think Taylor is a very decent prospect indeed, not quite 1st team ready although you never know.

Melling is good enough to go straight into the team.


12.) 13 Aug 2019 15:56:24
My mistake Kev83, he was only on loan at Hibs.


13.) 13 Aug 2019 17:42:25
I've seen Meling a fair bit both in the Norwegian league and for the national side, he would be brilliant for us. He's not the biggest of lads though.
With Rosenborg still potentially able to qualify for CL themselves, I doubt them letting him go. they don't really have any good backups in their squad either, and haven't heard any rumours about them linked with any decent defenders.


14.) 13 Aug 2019 21:45:12
Melling stood out everytime we have played them.


 

 

 

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25 Aug 2024 21:27:28
The only sense I see on the Barcelona boy singing is put your mortgage on kt coming back in one of the next 2 windows.

Jungle john

1.) 25 Aug 2024 21:55:31
Retired on a season ticket is the only way thsts happening.


2.) 25 Aug 2024 22:40:56
KT is Past his best, Wages far too high and injury prone. It’s a no from me.

{Ed007's Note - It's a HELL NO! from me. The fans need to move on, if KT hadn't played for us and we were linked with him they'd be going tonto even at the mention of it.


3.) 25 Aug 2024 23:11:43
I like tierney but he's had his time. Anyway let's hope valle sounds like Enrique then john.


4.) 26 Aug 2024 04:17:50
If KT wasn't injury prone, I would love to have him back.

However, he is injury prone and his wages would be a massive problem. It is a big no from me.


5.) 26 Aug 2024 08:11:52
We've known for the past two seasons that Bernabei wasn't the answer and a LB was required to at least push GT for the jersey.

Bernabei is out on loan, GT has something like 9 months of his contract to run and we're still unable to sign a LB capable of replacing Taylor.

Instead it appears we've got a loan from Barca, in the last week of the window with no option to buy?

Whoever we have in our 'recruitment' team shouls be sacked on the back of this window alone, nevermind the two previous windows.

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6.) 26 Aug 2024 08:23:40
KT will never play for us again, his injury history should be enough in itself to scare any furure Celtic manager from even considering signing him.

The Valle signing is very confusing, it's a loan, not clause within loan to buy, with GT heading towards end of his contract.

BR has said he hopes to speak to him and address it soon but is it us or GT that's left it this long.

Surely GT wouldn't have let his contract wind down, why would he, where is he going to move to that is bigger than here and what team is going to offer him a contract that's better than we will, because he is not going to the PL.

It must be the club and if it is, why haven't we signed at least 1 replacement, not a loanee for a year.

Very, very strange situation.


7.) 26 Aug 2024 10:37:46
MIP it should be enough to scare any team off signing him. Great business to get the money we did for him, when we did. Take the sentimental side out of it then he's absolutely no use to us he's made of chocolate.


8.) 26 Aug 2024 13:38:23
Totally agree, I think we got the best of him and maybe that may be why he has so many injuries, we maybe over used him.

That is possibly why BR wants more quality in, 2 good players in each position helps prevent burn out and injuries.


 

 

25 Aug 2024 15:55:03
Box office brendan at it again.
If you were to draw a line with the frustrated fans on one side and the board on the other, I think he would be standing with us.
He's basically recreating his conversations with the board in his pressers and trying to tell his side and distancing himself from there recruitment stance.
Hopefully he doesn't get distracted from the job he has here. that's the last thing we need.
For me there has to be a balance.
Financial security and a well run club, but the be all and end all is a constant evolution and development of the team on the park.
As long as BR is here he will try and drag the board into finding that balance.

Jungle john

1.) 25 Aug 2024 17:00:47
Saw the video of some fans at game today having a go at PL outside the ground.

I can appreciate some fans being upset that we haven't taken in as many new players as we need yet but to turn aggressive and abusive is quote frankly unacceptable.

I don't care who it was, either doing the shouting or on the end of it, it is not right.

We as a club are better than that.

A club for all but when you see this, sometimes we are no better than them.

Abusing someone is no way to conduct yourself, if we were sitting bottom of the league, I would still not agree with this behaviour.


2.) 25 Aug 2024 17:01:19
JJ

He is single handed trying to drag the club into the 21st century.

Thank goodness he’s here.

There’s no way we should be in this position in the last week of the transfer window. His words. To those who praise and are happy with the board’s performance the manager isn’t. Neither a recruitment team nor a strategy and as he said it needs sorted.


3.) 25 Aug 2024 17:13:31
Maedainparadise

100%.

Speaking like that to a man in his 70s even if what you’re saying is right you’re wrong.

Poor show.


4.) 25 Aug 2024 17:59:34
I am not happy with the transfer situation this window but I would never resort to treating anyone like that.

MN is the CEO and he uis the one who should be explaining why we are taking forever to get players in, this is his area of the business, not PL's but it is PL everyone is blaming.


5.) 25 Aug 2024 18:10:00
JFP as you know I have been totally confident we would have a good window. Its now or never this week mate?. I am sure we will all be heading to paradise next week to give Sevco an absolute doing with the squad strengthened. ?.


 

 

23 Aug 2024 16:23:55
Could sit and listen to the manager all day.
He was box office today.
Its clear that he wants to be celtic manager but i. m. o is he to ambitious for what seems to be a limited board.
Give him what he wants and watch us transform into a decent team.
Dont and it could qickly turn sour.

Jungle john

1.) 23 Aug 2024 17:28:36
I have a big feeling we could be in for a restructure behind the scenes and in the boardroom if we don't get at least 3 players Brendan wants before the window shuts.


 

 

07 Aug 2024 10:22:59
As a supporter my sole focus is on the men's first team. yes that might make me a dinosaur and times have moved on.
However the board have a monster of a business to run and if truth be known they are doing a tremendous job.
But as a supporter I just can't understand there unwillingness to push the team to the next level.
I don't buy the party line of "they are working hard in the background " because there is a pattern that is evident that as a team we are just doing enough to stay a head of rangers.
The board are actually so clever they employ the best managers to work under there constraints and they for the most part are successful.
The fact is they are now taking the piss out of BR for the 3rd window of his return.
I for one wouldn't blame him for getting itchy feet again.

Jungle john

1.) 07 Aug 2024 10:59:39
How long has the window been open. are we to believe that in the whole world we can't find a quality lb cb striker within our budget that can help the present squad. if they want idah and iam sure brendan does then they have to pay the fee it's a bit like our valuation of mor atalanta have been rebuffed twice but if they pay what we want they'll get him. baffling way we do things never understood our philosophy.


2.) 07 Aug 2024 11:04:23
The board are giving Brendan more control, last summer we signed loads of players, all very quickly, and for decent sums of money. Since then Brendan has insisted on acting as quality control (which is no bad thing) . But it means signings are much harder. It's easy to sign players that clubs want rid of or who are desperate for a move and their agents are hocking them around.

It's much harder to sign players that are settled and their clubs not wanting to sell - surely this is obvious? What's the point in just signing the first 9 players that agents offer us? Most of them will be terrible, that's what rangers have done and they will fail miserably as a result.

Signing good players takes time, and is often not possible owing to fee/ wage negotiations, other suitors, etc.


3.) 07 Aug 2024 12:10:36
But idah is the opposite of settled so pay the money. we have one striker going into the 2nd week in August you'd think that it would be a necessity and top of the agenda to give the manager another option. look at kyogo o sun he looked as if he wanted off but we had no-one and that's a sad indictment of our club.


4.) 07 Aug 2024 12:43:45
Trying to see the bigger picture here (maybe poorly) . I'm with Gerry on this. Yes I distrust the men at the top but getting better players to take us to the next level takes time, patience and negotiation with the selling club and the players agent I trust BR.


5.) 07 Aug 2024 12:55:19
A club with so much money they are declaring it to the stock exchange must have the funds to at least buy three quality players, not to mention installing sell-on clauses that can be in place when they leave to protect and even multiply their investments.
There are plenty countries out-with the major leagues where quality players can be found to suit our budget as we have done in the past.
We have even sold or discarded others to accommodate financially and numerically any additions that the manager has identified.
The polar difference between recruitment last season and this makes me wonder who are the real problem?


6.) 07 Aug 2024 12:56:30
Idah wants to come and we want to buy, but Norwich don’t want to sell, and they are a wealthy club so what are we supposed to do? Pay more than we think the player is worth? If it’s true Norwich want over £10m for him then surely it’s a stalemate. We can’t just throw money away because we are cash rich.

This is Idah in isolation but applies to any player where a club doesn’t want to sell. MOR being the perfect example. Atalanta maybe feel £15-18m is a fair price (maybe it is) but we have no interest in selling at that figure.

Honestly, some folk on here would have us happily pay 150% or even 200% of a realistic valuation just to get a deal over the line. Is that how you manage your own budgets?!


7.) 07 Aug 2024 13:09:25
Thats not what iam saying. iam saying if we truly want the boy then surely we push the boat out the money is there. nobody knows what norwich want so that's just speculation. times batching on something has got to give. if they don't pay the money for idah we could always do what we usually do and get an inferior player for less money.


8.) 07 Aug 2024 13:12:57
Celtic must be confident that we can still sign Idah or we would’ve moved on to Plan B by now.

I would still rather be in our current situation waiting on decent Brendan Rodgers approved signings,
Instead of what we witnessed last year.
Although it is very frustrating to watch.

Last year we signed several players, who struggled to get decent game time and it’s similar to what Sevco are now experiencing.


9.) 07 Aug 2024 14:09:24
Not a mathematician but holding onto MOR makes utter financial sense even to our money mad board.

Even if we pay him £100k a week, he is our only reasonable chance of getting into knock out phase of champions league. One home tie would pay his wage for the whole season. His value would be enhanced and he gets a bigger move.

Not difficult decision for me.


10.) 07 Aug 2024 14:43:39
Buzz I agree with you regarding Idah, to me it seems that it has now became a blinking contest with Norwich, they want a figure, we are relying on offering them a lot less than they value him for but don’t want an unhappy player on their hands. If so, leave it on the back burner and move on to work on a left back, another centre back or the winger we want. Why not move to sign the third forward rogers wants? I read today o Shea prob won’t come to us now as Brentford are coming in for him for 7 million and we can’t afford his wages. Surely the club know roughly what sort of a wage these players want, if we can’t shop in the epl, don’t as we can’t entice players with wages . Or was it another name drip fed to us that we are sniffing around, around renewal time. Just like last season when the rumour was we are ready to move to the next level of player ( similar to red bull) averaging higher fees to bring in better players and higher sell on . We all know how that went . What little faith I’ve had in this board to deliver has obviously disappeared for me .


11.) 07 Aug 2024 17:59:23
JJ how can you claim the board are doing a tremendous job and then rhyme off multiple ways they are holding back the manager, the squad and the club as a whole?


12.) 07 Aug 2024 19:24:54
Kev we are one of the best run business in the country and by far one of the best run clubs in the uk.
My point was that only if the saw it from a supporters point who only cares about the team.
The business has many strings to it but a successful team on the park is the key to the whole business being successful.


13.) 07 Aug 2024 20:35:07
I get where you're coming from but I can't agree. Domestically there's very little you can grumble with, the trophies speak for themselves, but we've been given a fantastic opportunity with back to back groups and made a complete mess of it. Lawwell said we budget for Europa League but when you do that, you end up getting skelped in the Champions League. And the Europa League. And the Conference League.


 

 

31 Jul 2024 14:46:01
It seems strange to criticise the board given our trophy haul but seriously can anyone give me a good explanation as to what we are doing in this window.
Another shot fired from the manager.

Jungle john

1.) 31 Jul 2024 15:10:03
Very good interview from BR. Not getting involved with Idah issue, he's not our player but when pyshed on if we want him, he said 'we will see what happens in next few weeks'.

Confirms other Managers are saying transfer window is slow but will pick up now that the pub league teams getting back to work.

He is very confident we will be stronger when window closes, than when we finished last season.

He also said that clubs need to value the player and not the league. He knows players and their values from his time in pub league and no Celtic player will leave unless the club meet his and clubs valuation. No club is near MOR's valuation he said.


2.) 31 Jul 2024 15:12:31
Looks like there are two companies at play here - Celtic plc and The Celtic Board Ltd., and the two seem to competing against each other.

If only the two could put their egos aside and start talking to each other we might just get somewhere.


3.) 31 Jul 2024 15:15:33
It’s a strange one JJ.

When Celtic played in European Qualifiers, you could understand the Board not releasing funds because the budget depended on our European destination.

But I can’t understand why we’re again waiting until after our league season has started, before getting serious about confirming transfers.

I personally still think we will sign several players but a couple of weeks preparation time for the CL isn’t ideal.

I’m surprised Brendan isn’t bald because he must be pulling his hair out with frustration.


4.) 31 Jul 2024 15:21:52
There is absolutely no excuse for starting the season with 1 striker,1 lb and dare I say it scales as your no1 next to ccv.
Maybe all the trophies prove the board are right and the fans are concerning themselves for nothing, but maybe one year rangers might just have a decent window and combined with us having another stinker we could find ourselves in trouble when we should be real be miles ahead.


5.) 31 Jul 2024 15:54:56
There’s no doubt we got a fright last season JJ and the Celtic Board got out of jail with underestimating our rivals and banning our own fans.

There was a time last season when the Bookies had Sevco as favourites for the title and that’s how dire it once was but our Board don’t seem to have learned any lessons.

The Celtic Board landed very lucky getting Ange because he turned the club around and not them.
They wasted the full summer chasing their first choice manager but Ange saved them and stopped the planned protests.


6.) 31 Jul 2024 17:03:53
So many statements from same sources all with a different slant based on negativity, there is absolutely no sound impartial basis to say there are two completing companies Celtic Plc and Celtic Board . There is nothing to indicate that and that they are completing against each other, that’s only a figment of imagination.
BR made a good point, he says clubs need to value the player and not the league, players also need to value the club and not the league . That’s what is likely to be the entire problem . SPL, agents players and clubs have experienced the total paucity of the SPL where the SMSM laud clubs for playing 2 rows of 4/ 5 in front of goalkeeper and relying on ref and VAR to give Celtic’s opponents a pen to get a result . How would any player be tempted to come to Scotland to play 3/ 4 of season in winter with players knowing before ko that ref and VAR and ref’s assistant had planned how to cheat Celtic.


7.) 31 Jul 2024 18:12:19
It looks like the board yet again falling a sleep at the wheel if Rodgers yet again has said we cannot snooze in getting players in. when will we learn as fans that board only care about the amount of money they make. for weeks we heard that a better quality of player will be brought in and we are still waiting.


8.) 31 Jul 2024 19:13:14
Why say it is wrong to blame Board and then criticise them.


9.) 31 Jul 2024 19:46:16
JJ, I don't think our trophy haul over the last decade would be miles off what it is if you had been CEO. That's how much of an advantage we've had. It was an opportunity to progress and we've squandered it for the most part with poor managerial appointments and substandard signings.


10.) 31 Jul 2024 20:35:45
It seems to me the support is split when it comes to our :progress: surely the only way forward is if your dissatisfied with our poor performances in Europe then don't take up a ticket for the European games. While the fans fill the stadium at every home game, buy 3 or 4 new tops every year and take up all the Euro packages etc why would any business man change his approach and spend money he considers unneccesary.


11.) 01 Aug 2024 00:14:01
It’s daft to say we could be so much better . Facts are that a few clubs winning their leagues as regular as us . None of them are miles ahead d of all other clubs in league . Superior managers may be able to make players who are similar in ability to others in league, but as with other leagues, players will not push themselves when they know they are better than rest of. League.


 

 

 

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09 Jun 2024 21:33:18
A lot of the rumours are of explayers coming back. Let's hope they are all just rumours.
As it stands with the right investment and the right recruitment we have the chance to put the foundations down for another decade and dominance and chip away at making some sort of progression in Europe.
However I haven't really got confidence that that will happen. Hopefully the club will prove me wrong.

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31 Jan 2024 20:50:17
Surely if he leaves and with hatate and iwata injuries possibly mor also
Then we are really short in that area also.
Someone tell me this is a bad dream. We will wake up Friday morning with 4 new players?.

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31 Jan 2024 13:17:11
Don't forget either that MOR picked up an injury on Saturday. Any updates on that.

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14 Jan 2024 20:11:08
As long as BR has given his blessings because if he ain't he will not get a game.

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20 Jul 2023 18:35:47
Well he would be hopless with only one foot ??.

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12 Aug 2024 19:39:25
His name is not will, its Adam ?.

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07 Aug 2024 19:24:54
Kev we are one of the best run business in the country and by far one of the best run clubs in the uk.
My point was that only if the saw it from a supporters point who only cares about the team.
The business has many strings to it but a successful team on the park is the key to the whole business being successful.

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03 Aug 2024 17:07:23
Celtic need to get our own house in order, our own squad in order before we start making outlandish statement s about rangers.
We are 2 injuries away from having no LB or CF.

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31 Jul 2024 15:21:52
There is absolutely no excuse for starting the season with 1 striker,1 lb and dare I say it scales as your no1 next to ccv.
Maybe all the trophies prove the board are right and the fans are concerning themselves for nothing, but maybe one year rangers might just have a decent window and combined with us having another stinker we could find ourselves in trouble when we should be real be miles ahead.

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23 Jul 2024 19:52:35
Under ange players were brought in before players being sold ie AJ.
BR can't be happy with the slow start to the window but that's not to say we will not end it with a flurry.

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