Celtic Banter Archive February 03 2021

03 Feb 2021 21:29:15
Lots of people are crying out for a DOF which i think will be our way ahead but what the job entails is i don't know but we definitely need a coach rather than a manager head coach. Coaching the team forward for me is the way to go. So its just down to who wants it if the job is up for grabs come the end of the season.

{Ed007's Note - I just use DOF to save me typing as there's a load of different job titles that do the same job but have a read at THIS for a broad overview. Just Google (search the internet) for different explanations but it's basically under the same umbrella of having a long term plan that covers every aspect of the footballing department.}

03 Feb 2021 22:06:37
The DOF is definitely the way forward as long as we get the right man, Did we not try something like this when Fergus brought in Jock Brown.
But as you mentioned previously Ed that most big team around Europe have had this model for years.

{Ed007's Note - I never thought of it like that, maybe Jock Brown was an experiment along the DOF lines.}

03 Feb 2021 22:14:16
Jeezo; Jock Brown and Terry Cassidy! I had locked their names deep in ma subconscious ha ha.

{Ed007's Note - Cassidy was nothing but an ignorant pig. And that's all I'm going to say about that.}

03 Feb 2021 20:26:33
Ed007 we would be as well doing away with our youth system and going down a similar route to brentford.

{Ed007's Note - Like most things at the Club, Kev it needs an overhaul. There's no long term planning or planned routes for players to progress to first team. I read (as usual I can't find the fekn thing) one of the youngsters that left saying he had been been told what was going to be happening over the next 2/3 years with him, do we have that kind of thing going on? That's what happens at big clubs, your Ajax's, Barca, Chelsea etc etc have individual plans in place for youngsters to reach the first team if everything goes to plan.}

03 Feb 2021 20:52:31
That’s sad if you guys think that our youth system is belly up. I don’t think we look as if we’ve even got the best youth development system in Scotland.

{Ed007's Note - It's definitely something that needs looked at invested in, for me it's one of the most important things at a club.}

03 Feb 2021 21:06:40
As far as I can tell the main problem is that unless a young player is exceptionally talented or something forces the manager to play them, then the opportunities will be few and far between.

The reason I say that is on account of the pressure on a Celtic manager to win every game. If they don't do that they tend not to last long. So put yourself in the manager's shoes, if you have an older pro who is currently better than a youth player, who do you play, knowing that your job could be on the line?

While that pressure remains I don't expect much to change .

{Ed007's Note - The coaches need to be improving young players, look at Man Utd in the 90s, look at Ajax etc that are consistently producing top quality youth players.
The decision shouldn't be the manager's that's what I'm saying, Ajax, Chelsea, Man City Liverpool etc etc know what players they expect to be in the first team squad in 2 or 3 years time if everything goes to plan regardless of the manager. Look at AVB with Ntcham.
See for our very first podcast I'll ask Ed001 (maybe Ed002 but I doubt that) to talk about this stuff, he knows all about the way young players careers are planned and can pan out.}

03 Feb 2021 21:15:38
I think Celtic will go on a run win all the rest of the games and Lennon will still be in charge next season at the back of this? What do u ED007 and the rest of use think?

{Ed007's Note - If Neil Lennon is manager next season, Richy I will give you my house phone number and you can phone me any time to ask me any thing. I'll even give you advice on your love/sex life 😁

03 Feb 2021 21:34:46
I read that Ntcham story was basically false news. The manager was only unhappy that the signing was done from above. They must have a Pierre Lawell on board.

{Ed007's Note - All Marseilles transfers are done from above and AVB knew that. He was leaving in the summer anyways and as I keep harping on about there needs to be planning that continues regardless of the manager/coach. The so called "big" clubs see the head coach the same way they do players, transient employees that come and go but the long term plan must continue.}

03 Feb 2021 21:38:23
Can I call too? lol😁.

{Ed007's Note - I'll give you my 0898 number... I'm still not sure if you're Kafflic "Jure" or a Proddy "Jure" 😁*


*Copywrited and stole from Billy Connolly before the panty-wetters get upset.

03 Feb 2021 21:47:23
Hahaha it’ll be like tea time sales calls around the end of January and august.

{Ed007's Note - 😂

03 Feb 2021 22:24:44
Ed get it hookefmd up a premium rate 'advice' line. Sit back and relax. 🤣.

{Ed007's Note - Seriously though I've mentioned it a few times on the live chat about a podcast and maybe our phone in chat show. I do enough hours on here so putting a couple a week aside for that is really neither here or there.}

04 Feb 2021 09:36:52
Forgot about that ed. Ill get onto my brother. He runs a music podcast. Ill pick his brains on setting one up.

04 Feb 2021 12:20:17
Hi what is the name of the podcast u mentioned and when does it start.

{Ed007's Note - We haven't got to a name yet mate but you'll have no probs finding it when we get going 👍

04 Feb 2021 12:47:41
Live pod cast ED007 I WOULD BE THERE
maybe a we can all give a donations to help set it all up. Plenty would be interest as SSB is the pits. What do you think ED and what do you think lads is this a goer let ed know.

{Ed007's Note - Good man, Andy and that's very kind but I couldn't ask you guys to do that. You have no idea how uncomfortable I feel even asking for foodbank money lol.}

04 Feb 2021 12:49:35
If we look on the bright side it could be a new exciting time for our Club.
The club will be making changes from top to bottom and if we get the right people in, Celtic could be on to a winner.
We all knew Celtic would take a new direction next season, no matter the outcome this season.

I’m looking forward to the challenge because it was too easy at times and our younger fans take the club and success for granted.
I tried to educate my kids that our success wouldn’t last forever.

Now I’m looking forward to the challenge and celebrating every goal with my kids.
The way we did years ago when every goal meant something and was important.
The SFA have got their wish by not installing a FFP system and that was to wipe out the gap.
Now it’s game on and I can’t wait to get back to paradise.

03 Feb 2021 15:36:09
see the spfl highlights for the shot cleared of the line they replay it a few times and eddy goal is replayed a few time basically trying to get at the goal was in and eddy was offside.

when the thug el flufallo smashed the dundee utd player in the face with his elbow and did not get a red card card it was not even in the highlights with nearly 7 mins of highlight footage from the spfl. sky sports highlight footage was over 3 mins and showed the incident.

03 Feb 2021 16:09:35
Ui the foul on eddy in first half is as clear cut as there is. no contact with ball whatsoever but somehow the sly pundits came up with some mince about him going down.

03 Feb 2021 17:21:35
They have always been very consistent in their biased and slanted reporting against all things Celtic and it's all the more bitter that our going off the rails, coincides with them taking over from BT.

03 Feb 2021 13:30:14

A wee lunchtime read about Marcelo Bielsa if anyone's interested.

03 Feb 2021 17:07:14
I enjoyed reading that article Ed.
The first time I’d heard off Bielsa was by yourself when you wanted him to replace Brendan for the Celtic job.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

03 Feb 2021 17:37:02
Hes quite a character. His knees must be knackered the amount of times he's on them during a match. I like watching Leeds as they never sit back and go for it no matter who they play. Our players would be running to their agents greeting of the workload under a 24/ 7 football man.

03 Feb 2021 18:03:53
Ed he sounds a real character you certainly couldn’t question his experience looking at his CV.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

03 Feb 2021 18:13:17
Ed, do you think he might be looking for a new challenge after this season, possibly in with us lol? I know he normally only sticks around for a couple of years at each team, that would be some coup if we managed to get him!

{Ed007's Note - Nah man but we can dream 😍

03 Feb 2021 21:04:12
Lol, you have probably answered this before but who would you want or think would be a realistic target, if Lennon's leaves in the summer?

{Ed007's Note - As a DOF I really don't know but I'd like to see Phillip Cocu as head coach with his own choice of assistant and Roy Keane taking up the 3rd assistant position. 😁 Mark Hughes would be an interesting pick too - I see a podcast has been speaking to him and there's a a bit of a buzz around him - but I'd take him over the likes of Howe if I'm honest.
What I want more than anything regardless of personnel is a long term plan to take the Club forward with footballing people making the footballing decisions within the constraints of the budget. There's a lot of money floating about Celtic considering where we are but as I've being saying for years it's not being spent wisely. We need to ignore the transfer fees and concentrate on paying more in wages, we need to invest in scouting and youth development, using the system like we did for Dembele.
I'll shut up now mate, sorry lol.}

03 Feb 2021 21:24:59
No mate your views always welcome. Talking to a big Scottish rugby fan in work and he reckons McKay is a good appointment for us. He will concentrate on the commercial side and bring in as much money as possible, also reckon ticket prices could rise but knows there needs to be a good product on the pitch to justify it. so means money will be spent.

{Ed007's Note - I was answering that last post when you sent this lol I don't know much about McKay and I don't have a "Rugger Guy" on speed dial but from what I've seen he looks like he could be what he needs. Seriously has anyone outside rugby ever heard of him whereas the dug in the street knows Lawwell so here's hoping McKay's not looking to become famous.}

03 Feb 2021 12:32:07
good win lads, killie away our bogey team,
nothing clumsy in defence but still brown goes side ways, yes he scored yes he tried hard but he was out the game long spells,
i thought ajeti took his goal well.
i also thought we missed soro, lenny says he gave him a rest to keep his momentum going, fair enough.
our defence seemed better we build on this. looking forward to our next game exact same team but add soro for brown.
id take a strong and powerful brown for the last 20 mins of a game if we need to shore up defence, i keep believing,
now if we could actually be ready for next season with in and outs before new season starts and get a stronger subs bench.

03 Feb 2021 12:43:52
That’s the most goals Celtic have scored at Rugby Park since we won 5-2 there in 2013.

03 Feb 2021 18:39:20
Ye @ buzzB
Maybe a gd sign.
So lads when does the Scottish cup knockouts start?

03 Feb 2021 06:57:48
Think folk getting a wee bit carried away on here yes good result and performance was decent but defence wasnt as good as folk making out. If it wasnt for bad finishing killie could have a at least a couple of goals. Needs to be better.

03 Feb 2021 07:47:17
And if our final ball had been better especially from our fbs and eddy had pulled the trigger earlier we'd have had about 7 or 8.

03 Feb 2021 07:51:28
The point am saying is against a half decent team our defence would get ripped apart tho. Our attack never been any doubt about they are great going forward.

03 Feb 2021 08:57:42
But on last night we won with plenty to spare mate. the defence were a bit better defending set pieces and Welsh and ajerloojed good imo. our fbs got forward but there final ball was poor . but think Kenny if he can maintain that looks right defender.

03 Feb 2021 09:03:15
strong performance and good result and you still find the time to moan.

03 Feb 2021 09:16:05
The defense (and goalkeeping) have been a major problem all season; he has chopped and changed a zillion times due to injuries and other factors and last night that back four had never played together.
Yes, we were a bit lucky to keep a clean sheet, but the defenders - assisted by a vintage Broony - were excellent to-a-man, as were a good few others out there and it could well have been 9-2.
It has been a horrendous campaign and there's no getting away with all the disappointing aspects that have contributed; so performances and results like that have got to be at least a small comfort?

03 Feb 2021 10:20:54
Regardless of any result Lennon has to go, I am delighted we managed to win a game. But let's not let a good result paper over the cracks. There are too many players who don't want to be here now I don't know why that is but I am sure lennon blaming everyone but himself might have something to do with it. (putting tin hat on now) but I am really happy we won o didn't see the game as I was sleeping (night shift) but the wife told me it was a good game and we played well in spurts. Let's hope we can continue this form till the end of the season. But my point still stands we need a new manager with new ideas and a passion for playing attractive free flowing football. Rant over lol.

03 Feb 2021 10:41:30
Good result but far too late in season. Welsh should of been starting from debut against sevco at start of season as he is a better option than Biton.

03 Feb 2021 11:54:17
Young Welsh had over 90% passing accuracy against Hibs and was then dropped for our next game.
I would keep playing the back 4 that played last night.

03 Feb 2021 12:09:58
We need to realise it was Kilmarnock and they have been terrible too.

{Ed007's Note - So we get beat by St Mirren and Celtic are rubbish, the manager & players take pelters about not being good enough and not trying but when we win against Kilmarnock and put on a vastly improved performance it's because Killie are rubbish? 🤷‍♂️
We've been dropping points all season to so called terrible teams and when we win and put in maybe our best performance of the season - the best in months anyway - but some people still need to look for negativity to spin.}

03 Feb 2021 12:38:29
Totally agree Ed; we all know where the faults lie and what a cock up we've made of what should have been a 'Banner Season' - however, there are no signs of a management change right this minute, so do we just keep moaning and howling at the moon; or still support the team during this, as there are still games to win and a Cup to play for.
I know we have had a lot to complain about and point fingers, but Sevco-SLY are already ripping us apart this morning (as feckin usual) , disputing goals, penalties and red cards and our own media have had a field-day with our plight, so credit where it's due - even if it's small consolation - it was a good win, after a bad defeat, at a difficult venue, not to mention the dreaded plastic pitch. H H.

{Ed007's Note - 👍 It's the "It's only Killie" patter, OAB. We can only beat what's in front of us and we haven't been doing that lately. In recent years when we were dominating and playing well we've drawn and lost games up there. It's always a tricky trip for us.
Think how all the Celtic fans that thought we would draw or lose are feeling this morning, they'll either be delighted to be wrong or raging they haven't got anything to moan about - which one do you think it'll be? 😁

03 Feb 2021 12:52:51
Some of the comments on here are getting really boring. It doesn’t look like Lennon is going anywhere before the end of the season and every second comment saying that he has to go will not change that. We know that Broonie is coming to the end of his playing career at Celtic but criticising his every move won’t make him play better or convince Lennon to drop him. Every Celtic fan knows that the defence has been crap this season so why is it necessary to tell each other the same things? It’s time to support the team and see if we can at least secure 2nd place and a shot at Europe again next season because it will be harder to convince a decent manager to come to us if we don’t even have a crack at CL football.

03 Feb 2021 13:06:15
Rugby Park has always woeful venue for us. Last night was good confidence builder for team. Keep scoring like that against teams then good chance we will close gap at top.

03 Feb 2021 17:45:50
Our best performance was arguably against that lot and we got bet 1-0.

03 Feb 2021 00:24:35
With Lennon always saying he going nowhere if he turns it around we win every game and win SC if on does Lennon the stay or go?

03 Feb 2021 08:43:07
The only thing that will save lennon is winning the league.