Celtic Banter Archive December 29 2019

 

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29 Dec 2019 22:57:37
Today was all Lawwell's doing, cheap option as manager appointed in the shower having not considered any other candidates, tactically inept being overrun in midfield with no idea how to change things, biggest month ever coming up and we need to ditch the biscuit tin and go all in, Wanyama, Benkovic, and a quality left back are a must, a striker to help Eddie is also a must, anything less and Lawwell should be doing the walk of shame the entire length of London Road.

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{Ed007's Note - Shhhhhh! Ffs you'll have Lennon's wee fanboys foaming at the mouth, you do know he can do no wrong don't you? Get with the program!}

29 Dec 2019 23:17:25
Heard a rumour that that forrest the tin man was playing today. Embarrassing result.

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29 Dec 2019 23:25:53
Benkovic? he's a pure sick not just like simi.

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29 Dec 2019 23:45:10
@pay the facepainter. Intitally agree. This result has been coming. I think rangers showed today they are challengers. We were 2nd best throughout. Too many people not showing up. can't wait to here how we were unkucky and everything is going to be ok. Honestly the naivety on here is unreal.

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30 Dec 2019 01:01:25
Hi folks, I've not posted on here for a while but here I go. I've watched or been at most games in last few years. IMO Celtic should have won that today. They have the worst striker to visit CP in that jersey in my life. They know that but it seems we don't at times. Their 1st goal came from exploiting our defences cover of him and allowed space for Kent. Good strike, it happens. RC pen was a nail on miss, don't know why I knew but I did. Their 2nd was a brilliant delivery and not defensive error. Beyond that the best chances fell to Celtic. The stats back it up. I do think frimpong is causing problems and while it looks good is out of position too much and stifling others. We should remember how desperate they were to win a game and not get too down over this. They've won nought. We need to strengthen considerably in attack and rack up the goals.

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30 Dec 2019 01:39:09
PaytheFacePainter AND ED. did you say that when we won 2 0 at ibrox? Did you say that when we beat Lazio home and away? Did you say that when we topped a hard EL group? Have a word with yourselves. I think playing Mikey Johnston in these games is a mistake. He is too fragile. CONSTANTLY knocked off the ball and dispossessed. YES, THAT IS LENNON'S FAULT, but the players let us down today. End of. Same as they did in the cup final! Difference is we didn't get away with it today. Investment needed in January.

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{Ed007's Note - Yes I probably would have said the same as I've been laughing at grown men - like you - and their creepy blinkered love for Neil Lennon for years.
So according to you when we play well and win it's Lennon that's done that but when we play terrible it's the players' faults - that's classic blinkered man-love right there. End of.}

30 Dec 2019 09:41:00
We should have been just as desperate and a free header in the box?! Slack defending big Ajer isn’t as good as we would like to think.

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30 Dec 2019 12:03:05
Spot on CarmyleBhoy.

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{Ed007's Note - Why do Celtic need a new game plan to play against TRIFC according to Scott Brown and what does he think needs figured out before we play them the next time?

The Celtic captain said that he still felt the team were on track for further success but that they had to devise a game plan to come out on top in the head to head matches.

"Rangers played quite well. They closed us down and we didn’t play as well as we possibly could have. We need to learn now, because that’s two games in a row now where they’ve probably outplayed us.
It’s the performances against Rangers that we need to make sure we improve on. For us, we know what we need to do and what we need to improve on.
We’ll have a few days off before meeting up in Dubai and we’ll figure out how we’re going to play against Rangers the next time."

30 Dec 2019 12:22:54
You'd have to ask Scott Brown?
We didn't play well so there's that. We let rangers control the game and didn't pass the ball quickly or effectively.
It's good to see you're on now with your 'I was right' smugness after 1 defeat.
Don't you think the team needs to look at where we went wrong in the last 2 games against them? Or does the manager just not have it?

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{Ed007's Note - One defeat? Have you forgotten Cluj where he majorly ballsed it up and cost us a CL place and didn't we lose 2-0 to Livingston and draw 1-1 draw with Hibs who were 2nd bottom of the league? It's not smugness btw, it's being realistic and saying how I - and many others - see it.
Lennon spent the whole of December playing a system with no recognised LW to be ready for yesterdays match then patched it for a scrawny kid who is nowhere near match fit and has failed epicly against them in every match.
I just think it's very strange that the captain thinks we need a new game plan and that we need to figure out how to play against TRIFC when all he supposedly needs to do is tell himself and the other players to try harder, and if that's the case maybe the problem is that the manager can't motivate the players.}

30 Dec 2019 14:03:17
Haha right so we go all the way back to Cluj. You saying he didn't learn a lesson there? Best thing that happened was us losing to them btw but if I remember correctly we finished above them in our EL group? Nah he didn't learn anything from that defeat. You seem to expect us to win every single game, very realistic. And the players take no blame for being absolute pish in those games.
Didn't one of the players recently say he's one of the best motivators he's worked with? It was your pal Jonny Hayes.

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{Ed007's Note - I can remember everyone being delighted when we were put out the CL and saying it was the best thing to happen to us - the celebrations went on long into the night.
So if the problem wasn't motivation and it's wasn't the manager's tactics then what is it and why does Scott Brown think Celtic need a new game plan to play against TRIFC and what does he think needs figured out before we play them the next time? Come on, it's not THAT difficult a question is it?}

30 Dec 2019 14:42:20

********************** Look I'm not saying NL didn't get it wrong ***********

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{Ed007's Note - I deleted the rest of your gibberish apart from that cracker of a line because that's literally what you've been saying for over 12 hours! Don't get personal and have a pop at me because you've mad a James Hunt of it, there can only be one winner there.
This conversation is now over.}

30 Dec 2019 17:59:48
Yorkie the only stat that matters is the full time score.

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29 Dec 2019 22:01:58
Thoughts now on Benkovic (he has been fit all season btw) on loan? Miles better than what we have. Ajer falls asleep too often. And we badly need a McGinn type player. And a CF. Get three in, we have every chance. If we have same squad, it could be a tough watch.

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{Ed007's Note - Not for me, get a player that's going to be here for the long haul. Ajer's still young who will learn from his mistakes and players like that need to be playing to keep progressing. Rio Ferdinand made mistakes when he was 21 and I'm sure the older posters will say so did Billy McNeill.
The problem's not in the defence - it's in the midfield and Lennon persisting with the Brown/McGregor combination in the 4-2-3-1.}

29 Dec 2019 22:16:10
Agree to an extent Ed but it's not their fault that we can't defend a corner. Guy had a free run and jump and Ajer did little to stop him. And for me he does this too often as he isn't a natural defender. He might improve, but I'm not convinced. Agree midfield needs sorting, to deep and with wingers tha gap between Eduord and Brown/ McGregor is enormous.

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{Ed007's Note - I've said for the last couple of years that it should be McGregor pulling the string in midfield instead of Brown whose 2nd touch is usually a tackle.
And why didn't the manager have players on the posts at corners?
As for Ajer not being a natural defender that's just pish, he's been marked to be a CB since he was young and it was only his physicality when he was young that stopped him playing there. We signed Ajer as a CB and I'll never understand some people's infatuation in playing players in other positions, it's that kind of thinking that has Christie on the right and Forrest - who was invisible again and seems to be going back the way with regards to his consistency - on the left.}

29 Dec 2019 22:17:49
Ajer falls asleep? Our midfield was non existent today he at least tried to bypass them and get things going. I’m away to bed this is hurting my heid.

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29 Dec 2019 22:52:20
Ed do you think if we end up signing this Ivorian lad Soro that'll end our interest in Turnbull?

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{Ed007's Note - No, they are totally different players. Soro is a CDM and Turnbull's a CAM.}

29 Dec 2019 23:00:33
I have had doubts about Ajer ever making it as a top centre back for some time now and although he was solid at the beginning of the season, he is prone to lapses in concentration and costly mistakes. Why don't we invest in a tried and tested partner for Jullien and use him to bolster midfield in games like today?

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29 Dec 2019 23:01:05
Ed oo7 100 percent correct with players on posts they did and had two clearances? We didn’t and lost goal .

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29 Dec 2019 23:08:42
Definitely think we lost the midfield battle today and the last game also, is it any wonder with only 2 in there to their 3.

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30 Dec 2019 01:22:40
Center Halves now getting blamed for their zonal marking instructions, even although the big bad Colombian CF that everyone said “had to score sometime” was kept quiet once again.

We got outplayed in the cup, yet we stood by the same formation. What does Forrest offer that Frimpong doesn’t? For me, they’re too similar going forward. so don’t put them on the same side.

Wee light Mikey Johnston on the same side as dodgy boli? 3 in center midfield versus their floating 5.

Apart from their very average LB I wouldn’t swap a single player from their team for ours. which to me means we got outcoached.

Interested to hear anyone fight Lennon’s corner on this one. Even his “we were the better team” comment is concerning. I’m not panicking, I still think Lennon can win us the league, but surely we have to admit that he got it wrong in the cup and failed to even fix it today!

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30 Dec 2019 11:16:31
According to Keef Jackass he missed "an array of sitters" and we couldn't handle his physicality. Jullien dealt with him fine and he dropped like a stone every time anybody touched him.

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29 Dec 2019 21:56:22
And Bolingoli don’t get me started forest rubbishbag. Julien I thought was outstanding Frimpong never hid Ajer tried coming forward with ball cos midfield were hiding sorry for rant and no fullstops Ed I’m fkn raging wi that performance.

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{Ed007's Note - I think we're all in the same boat, Welshy.}

29 Dec 2019 22:28:10
Said the same thing more than once lads wee Forrest is a passenger in this game! Utter rubbish bag of a boy honestly! And this isn’t talking after it’s happened, this has been said over and over again about him! He was invisible today! Bolingoli was an utter shambles and looked like it was the first time he had ever tried to play football! Not panic stations just yet but lenny has got a lot of work to do to get this sorted! I’m hoping it’s just a case of recharging the batteries and adding one or 2 in the window. i honestly expected us to come out flying after the performance in the final but I could quickly see in the first half that we were nowhere near it! There’s a spark missing in the team right now and it needs sorted ASAP!

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29 Dec 2019 21:46:49
Bang on ed just back from game and watched the highlights showing me what we already know. We don’t compete against them when our setup plays into their hands. I’m fkn scunnered no fight no desire no urgency I can take losing but I can’t take being out fought. Watched Frimpong being isolated all game every throw in no takers too many hiding fkn embarrassing. 2 games they have out fought us they want it more we want teams sitting back letting us play round them with no fight. Plenty today need take a look at themselves cos too many went hiding.

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{Ed007's Note - 👍

29 Dec 2019 21:45:34
Had we won today most of us would have been confident of winning the league. 1 loss and everything has changed for most on here. Lennon made a good point of us being in a similar situation at this time last year and we still won the league. don't agree with Walker saying that was our strongest 11 Elyounoussi and El Hamed would've have started that game and I feel we should give Taylor a run in the team now as Boli doesn't offer much going forward. Need a similar run of results up to the next derby as we did this one and I'm confident we will be heading into that game top of the league.

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29 Dec 2019 21:53:17
Not at all we will win the league I’m confident if that I’m just pissed off that we can compete against desire if it’s not going our way we can’t win a fight.

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29 Dec 2019 22:39:02
If you can't get fired up against them then they're not fit enough to wear the jersey. It's the one domestic fixture that means more to the fans than any other game so the players should be 100% up for it every single time.

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30 Dec 2019 02:22:49
How were we in a similar position after losing the game last december?
We were top level on points but we had a game in hand, now if they win there game in hand they will go top. Since Lennon has came in, they have won more points than us.
Our fitness levels seem to have dropped off just as they did the last time Lennon was in charge and he doesn't seem to have any clue on how to change a game when its going wrong.
He will go from a hero to the guy who threw away the 9IAR.

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30 Dec 2019 14:51:38
Sevco have a much stronger squad than last season. The league will go down to the wire and most likely be decided by the derby games. At the moment Gerrard seems to have figured NL out. Everyone was predicting them dropping points in December and us running away with it. It hasn't happened. This tribute act are a genuine title threat.

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29 Dec 2019 18:44:23
Ed my friend what are your thoughts on today and what do you think needs to be improved on going in to the second half of the season?

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{Ed007's Note - The team selection, formation and tactics were all wrong today and once again too many players didn't turn up and the manager apparently didn't know how to change things. Bolingoli and Johnston on the left is never going to work and neither is playing 2 CMs against their 3 which ends up isolating Edouard up front, we should have played 4-5-1/3-5-1-1 or even 4-3-3 , at the very least kept things the way they were in the past few games with Christie on the right. I can't get my head round what Lennon was thinking of dropping Ntcham to play Johnston.
In saying all that the game could have panned out totally different if Christie had scored the penalty to put us on the front foot.
Going forward I'm not too concerned and with a couple of additions in January and the players coming back refreshed I don't see why we won't win another treble.
I know it's not a popular opinion but like the Cluj game today's result lies firmly at the feet of the manager with his selection etc. It seems he's not learnt a thing tactically when it comes to playing them.}

29 Dec 2019 20:59:47
Absolutely spot on ED. The signs were there in the Cup final where the system that day meant that we were outnumbered in midfield and Lennon should surely have learnt from that. I don't know if it's stubbornness or lack of tactical awareness but he surely has to learn from previous games against them.
You could tell 15 minutes in that the team selection was wrong yet he waited till the second half before changing things.
The only good thing about today was that it didn't decide anything, but if Lennon doesn't start getting his team selections and tactics right in big games then we are going to come a cropper.

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{Ed007's Note - What about this team:

-----------------Forster-------------
-Frimpong--Ajer----Jullien---Bolingoli--
-------Brown---McGregor-----Ntcham---
--Christie------Edouard-------Forrest---

With Christie & Forrest tracking back when we don't have possession and cutting in to help Edouard and using the FB's as wingers when we're going forward, so you've basically got a 5 man midfield when you don't have the ball but have 4/5 players in the final third when you do?}

29 Dec 2019 21:23:21
Ed: What you said!

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29 Dec 2019 21:18:18
does anyone think its more a case of the rangers have our number and don't allow us to play as they without doubt are a better team than us at this time.

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{Ed007's Note - No, overall we have a far better quality of player - apart from Gordon & Hayes our bench today would walk into the TRIFC starting XI - but we're getting overran in midfield in these derby games and the manager's bizarre team selections and tactics are the problem.}

29 Dec 2019 21:24:57
ed that was a great analysis of the situation. simple but great. why can't neil see it?

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{Ed007's Note - Cheers mate.}

29 Dec 2019 21:25:02
Let's be honest. You won't hear professional tactics and NL in the same sentence imo. Inept.

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29 Dec 2019 21:51:01
ED. I would have rather seen your formation playing today than the one we did play.
For the past year Sevco have caused us problems with the way they set their team up against us, we can't just do the same things and hope it will work out next time.

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{Ed007's Note - It's glaringly obviously that we're losing these games being outnumbered in midfield against the high press.}

29 Dec 2019 22:26:53
Hang on a second here. Lennon is being critisized cos most of the team didn't turn up? Foxibhoy did you miss the europa league campaign? Forrest was a disgrace and boli isn't up to it. Christie missed a penalty and johnstone might as well not have bothered putting his boots on. 2 of our first picks were out injured and we've played an incredible amount of games this season, including every weekend and midweek this month.
I'm as annoyed as anyone today but the players have to take responsibility.

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{Ed007's Note - Haven't TRIFC been playing 2 games a week as well? Who chose a 2 man midfield CM and the Bolongoli/Johnston partnership and who told Forrest (and Frimpong) to keep going inside instead of trying to hit the byline? Who took 68 minutes to change things and if the players didn't turn up isn't that down to his man-management?
When push comes to shove the ultimate blame lies with the manager, West Ham didn't sack any players today and replace them with Moyes.}

29 Dec 2019 22:56:12
No Ed they had a midweek off. Lennon played the team most of us were happy with before kick off but cos all bar 2 or 3 were terrible it's all NLs fault? I took issue with what Foxiboy said cos it's absolute nonsense. NL has done better than BR could have in Europe.
I don't give a toss about west ham and you know players can't be sacked for not doing their job, i. e. passing to their own player.

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{Ed007's Note - They had one midweek off, are you being serious? How do you know that "most of us were happy" before kick-off, nobody asked me - Johnston starting?
If you don't think the team selection and tactics were wrong then there's no point talking to you, Stevie Wonder and Stephen Hawking could have seen what was wrong in the Cup Final and fixed it for today.
Did Santa bring you the 2020 Neil Lennon calendar?}

30 Dec 2019 08:24:21
HT. It might be absolute nonsense to you but it's my opinion and I'm entitled to state it. You have your own opinion and I'm fine with that. Let's wait and see who is proved correct. I have consistently said NL was and is not the man for the job for the reasons we are discussing. I hope to be proved wrong but fear the worse.

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29 Dec 2019 23:09:13
Again I agree ed I was so frustrated with frimpong especially in first half got the ball acres space to run out wide ( and we know he can do it) yet always cut in to trouble or passed back! Said to my son it was weird and must have been told to cut inside?

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30 Dec 2019 10:38:30
My last post didn't get past Ed but hopefully this one will.
I said when NL got the job that I was disappointed however I don't think I'm alone in saying I've been pleasantly surprised especially with Europe. BR wouldn't have won that group. Now if that makes me a NL fan boy as Ed puts it then that's his opinion.
I'm as angry as anyone over yesterdays performance but to come out after losing 1 game and say professional tactics and NL won't be heard in the same sentence is total bollocks. Where were you after the lazio games?

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{Ed007's Note - You're glossing over the fact that Lennon got the team selection and tactics all wrong to blame the players for not showing up. If you've got a two man midfield and the opposition have three in there it's easy for them to control the midfield as they can have 2 going for the ball and 1 marking the other player or vice versa. If you throw in a defensively inept LB and pair him with a weakling of a kid you're inviting problems, people say Hayes shouldn't have started at LB but he'd have been a better option than Bolingoli and as for the "what does Hayes offer except 100% commitment etc" some come out with - what does Brown offer that's different from Hayes?
Who decided not to have players on the post at corners or will we blame Kennedy the defensive coach for that one? Who told Forrest to constantly go inside instead of hitting the byline or will that be Duff the wingers coach's fault?
Once again we were over ran in midfield by TRIFC and that's where the problem lay, the exact same as happened in the cup final, everyone else sees it apart from Lennon but hey, that'll not be his fault either will it?
And once again it appears that when we win it's Lennon that deserves the credit but when we lose we've to blame the players for not turning up.}

30 Dec 2019 11:05:14
So where was your team selection before the game Ed? I didn't see you complaining when you posted the team. It's easy to criticise after the fact. Only after the game you want forrest on the left and Christie on the right!
Of course NL has to take a portion of the blame but to say that about professional tactics is nonsense. The players didn't turn up. Do you dispute that? Brown was our best player yesterday so don't understand your point there. I didn't even mention Hayes (who was rubbish in the cup final)

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{Ed007's Note - I didn't comment at all when I posted the team and "at the very least kept things the way they were in the past few games with Christie on the right" is hardly me wanting him there is it, why did Lennon change it after so many games that we won? Playing on the right in a 4-3-3 is totally different to doing it in a 4-2-3-1.
I never mentioned the Lazio games, the EL or Brendan Rodgers so I don't know what points you were bringing up there and what exactly are these "professional tactics" you keep mentioning?}

29 Dec 2019 19:43:12
Now I've calmed down a bit and had a proper think.
Yes we've been poor last couple games against them but we won one and we had 2 cleared off the line, one hit woodwork and McGregor was in good form for them.

A good rest and a decent window and we will romp home, just like last year.

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29 Dec 2019 20:09:41
Kev, unfortunately we ain't dealing with a diddy ranger team anymore.
Credit where credit is due. they ain't going away.
I can't see us romping anything.
We have to recruit in jan. that's is a must.
We have bought 2 lbs and hayes is the best of the lot.
Elhamd is a big lose.
The balance in midfield just isn't right.
Gerrard has sussed us out going by the last two performances.
It will be close but I still think we will win it.

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29 Dec 2019 20:17:51
I thought the gullible were on the other side of town.

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29 Dec 2019 20:23:39
Well said Kev, Class will tell in the end,

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29 Dec 2019 20:31:47
Think we need 3 players kev a decent cb as big ajer against better opposition can be found wanting, an athletic box to box midfielder and another striker as wee griff doesn't seem to affect the game when he comes on. getti g them that's the hard part but this day was always going to come.

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29 Dec 2019 20:57:00
Griffiths is finished. Shouldn't be near the first team. He looks like what he is to be honest. I know because I've been there.

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29 Dec 2019 21:05:55
So nothing about how Lennon got it ALL WRONG AGAIN and can't learn anything from past mistakes. eg the last time we played them just as simple as bringing in new players?

Then set up the stall the same way as we have done the last two games against them and all is good? We have far better players on our books already than them but keep playing like gold fish and the same will keep happening.

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29 Dec 2019 21:09:03
Ajer is a cracking player but we've got to remember he's still quite new and raw. He will only get better.
Griff is a hard one to judge as he's only getting 5-10 minutes at a time.
I think another striker was a must even if griff was on fire.

As for the stupid gullible comment or not the diddy rangers anymore, that's the same panty wetting we heard at this point last year.
We've had 3 games against them this season and won 2 of them. A couple bad performances and fans arses are dropping out.

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29 Dec 2019 21:35:11
Kev, fact is they are much better than last year and most of the other teams are worse. Us romping it by 10 points is delusional, they have played us off the park twice in a row and this result was coming. If we strengthen in Jan and play Elhamed and Frimpong as winger we will be stronger but other than that, our bench isn't going to improve our first 11 much. Def a war8sugn we need to heed.

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29 Dec 2019 21:38:41
Seriously need to watch a game on tv. Apparently we are world beaters on here and our manager is a tactical genius. Definitely different at the games that's for sure.

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29 Dec 2019 22:06:26
Kev the sensible approach is to treat Sevco as serious threats.
We have better players but like it or not they have become quite good at nullifying us, this hasn't just been the last 2 games but over the past year.
Hopefully they do crumble but I think we should take them seriously and don't risk losing our title through complacency.

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29 Dec 2019 23:34:08
Gerry we should be treating every team as a threat.
Chinks they are better than last year you are right.
But so are we and I think that's being over looked.
Our points and goals are much higher than last year. can't mind by how many by ed 007 will be able to tell us?

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{Ed007's Note - We're 10 points better off than we were last year - plus we had a game in hand - and we've scored 9 more goals (46/55) and conceded one less (14/13) which gives us a higher goal difference as well (32/42) at the 20 games played point.}

29 Dec 2019 19:36:11
Can someone explain to me. In a 1000s words or less. Our game plan.

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29 Dec 2019 19:53:32
Pass pass hide pass pass hide.

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29 Dec 2019 20:19:41
Get the ball wait until they get into position then pass it back or feel daring and pass sideways.

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29 Dec 2019 20:35:18
we were rank rotten again.

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29 Dec 2019 19:23:57
One thing is clear from today’s performance, Bolingoli is not a Celtic player. Lenny had wingers on today in Forrest and Johnston, why were they so narrow when we had the ball? Why were they not wider and full backs overlapping?

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29 Dec 2019 20:15:45
The crazy thing is we had virtually FOUR wide players in Bolingoli, Johnston, Forrest and Frimpong and the latter was the only man running at them and trying to set up attacks. However I don't understand overloading the wings, when we are short of 'strikers' that feed on crosses, while leaving the middle of the park for them to outnumber us and control the game?

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29 Dec 2019 21:23:41
Celtic mad, I understand what your saying, but if he’s playing with two wingers Would it not be better for those wingers to be wider rather than narrower when we’re attacking? I don’t know why he dropped Ntcham today because it was clearly obvious from the first 10mins that the tactics were needing altered. Rodgers would have seen that and changed it, there is no doubt about that.

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29 Dec 2019 18:46:16
is there a need to panic, no, do we need to assess address and fix, yes, whether its complacency, tiredness too many players playing all games or any other reason, it needs sorted, winter break, good transfer window works for them also . so together the coaches and the board must step up .

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29 Dec 2019 20:37:03
drb we have no plan B that is our problem. we need to address that, then we will get stronger.

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29 Dec 2019 17:30:06
Well today was a day in waiting. Has been coming. We can't keep winning every game. Weather our fans want to admit it or not, the gap has narrowed and quite considerably.

A few things from today's game. The point has been made already, but our pressing, our hunting in packs to get the ball back has disappeared. Are our players training hard enough, being pushed hard enough? Or just plain tired? The later I'm not buying. Or simply Lennon's style of play. What ever the reason we have to get better at hounding them. Look at how they pressed us, 4 going after the ball at a time. 2/ 3 on Frimpong, 4 on Édouard. Their energy levels were there for all to see.

In the last 15 mins we were relying on a 18 year old right back to give us a creative spark. That's simply not good enough.

I don't know the answer. But Lennon has to look at the last 2 games against them and come up with another plan, a curve ball.

This league has a long way to go and it could all come down to the 2 old firm games. I can't see a lot of points being dropped.

Lennon has a lot to think about.

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29 Dec 2019 17:46:34
I don't remember the last time we pressed a team deep in their own half like you mention and I really don't think we have the players that can do it? There are far too few tacklers or ball-winners and far too many lightweights who are easily dispossessed or just give the ball away under the slightest pressure.
If teams let us play and surrender space, we can look fantastic, but Sevco have shown our weaknesses/ failings two games in a row.
The first was a 'Get Out Of Jail Free Card' because we won a trophy and it was seen as a bad day, but today proved that they have got more muscle, organization and desire than us and that's unacceptable - on your own pitch in front of your own support.
The break comes at a good time for us to regroup and possibly add some much needed quality and variety, but it also gives them a huge boost and a slight advantage - and they too will strengthen.
The manager needs to open his eyes and see where we need to improve and even replace as there were one or two out there that may never be trusted to deliver in similar circumstances and the stakes are far too high to bluff.

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29 Dec 2019 18:18:05
Mickey j is crap not got what we need against that mob.

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29 Dec 2019 19:02:10
Celtic the Football club should be so far out of sight of our new neighbours that the Hubble telescope would be unable to find them.
Celtic the business however have slowly but surely allowed the gap to narrow, this has been premeditated and deliberate.
Celtic the business understands that no one bets on a one horse race!
As someone that has followed our great club man and boy I can accept defeat, better Celtic teams than this have lost but this feels different, when the original Rangers had their foot on our throat they pressed much harder than we seem willing to do.

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29 Dec 2019 19:19:49
Green tree this is not Lennons fault in my eyes he gave the tactics that yous wanted with Ntcham out and Christie in the ten ten and Forrest on right. This lies with the players. We didn’t deserve nothing as we didn’t the last game either. We need to buckle up or we won’t get 9 never mind the 10. Seen this coming a mile away but it how’s you react to these situations that makes you champions. Have a safe night lads.

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29 Dec 2019 17:02:04
This is the first time I have though we are in trouble. Sevco have an advantage here. I realise Celtic are top of the league by 2 points but Enrico is now worrying about sevco winning that game in hand which takes them to the summit of the league.

We are now in a position where we must win every game and hope the sevco slip up. This is a bad situation and going by the last 2 performances today and the cup final the sevies look right up for this.

My question to you my friends is will Celtic be up for it?

Where is the team who had big Eddy lump the ball into sevco half and pummelled them all over the park?

We have better players that I'd no doubt but the desire to win is showing through more at the wrong end of the city for me.

Enrico sips on his grape juice pondering the second half of the season.

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29 Dec 2019 17:16:55
I don’t think it was balls that were lacking today Enrico nor was it about them being more up for it. I think the team and the club both need to simply accept that beyond a shadow of a doubt we have a title challenge on our hands and that we have a right to win nothing. Then do what’s necessary as we have the resources.

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29 Dec 2019 21:06:14
Calling them sevco is childish, especially when they've just beaten us quite comfortably at our own home. We had a psychological edge over them to the point where they were beaten before we left the tunnel, no more. We need to improve the quality of the team and I want to see an attacking midfielder and and decent back up for Eddy. No point sitting on the money we have only to miss out on the chance to qualify for the CL. We need to win the league and get to the CL with our wage bill.

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29 Dec 2019 16:54:40
I made the point a while back that it was unclear to me whether they had merely widened the gap between them and the rest or if they had narrowed the gap to us but that the two games against them in the cup final and today would reveal all. It has now been proven and put beyond all argument that they have narrowed the gap to us. Massively disappointed but no complaints about the result we got what we deserved nothing and the better team won and didn't in the cup final. An equaliser today would only have papered over the cracks. Over to you Dermot Desmond and Peter Lawwell you can see as well as us what is required in the January transfer window or kiss 9 never mind 10 in a row goodbye.

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29 Dec 2019 17:25:18
I get slayed for voicing my opinions and here we are, exactly what i predicted. Exactly what we deserved. We just aren't as good ad them. No beating around the bush. we are in trouble. Rangers srent8gonna drip points.

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29 Dec 2019 17:35:14
And speak english.

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29 Dec 2019 18:41:32
Don’t talk rubbish
We have better players all over the park.
The difference is they turn up every game and we have too many players that only turn when they want to.
Forrest as much as I like him has contributed nothing in the last 4 old firm games, Christie wasn’t at it at all today either.
Edouard has no service and Mikey Johnstone wasn’t much better.
Bolingoli offers nothing at all to the team
Surely Taylor has got to get a run of games.

They have improved but we have made them look good with having so many players not turning up.

Brown played well and julien, only 2 and maybe Frimpong although he looked scared to beat a player in that first half.

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29 Dec 2019 21:29:27
they look as if they really want it we dont, are they fitter than us or are we more tired, both teams have played a lot of football or are they been coached better.

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29 Dec 2019 16:41:39
Did Sevco win the league today? Its 3 points valuable but. they will drop points but they do seem to have upper hand in the derby games. We do have better players but they don't allow us time on the ball press and hurry us and hunt in packs. They wanted it more than our players. We must and will do better but we can't have passengers and we had a few again today. Lenny needs to sort this out or it will cost us dearly.

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29 Dec 2019 20:48:27
Agree with above post.
Discussing game last week with my mates and we reckoned we would need 7 out of 9 points against Sevco to secure the league. Even a draw today would have done.
We have too many lightweights in the team, we need to muscle up in that midfield.
I appreciate a few guys on here still think we will romp the league, but I predict a hard road ahead. The fixtures from the break until the split are heavily weighted in favour of Sevco, while we have a lot of away games at grounds we have struggled in the past, Kilmarnock, Livingston, Hibs. We also have Sevco away. That one will be especially important as I can't see Sevco dropping any points in their other games to the split.
So whatever business is done in January needs to be good as I think we may need maximum points right to the split.

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{Ed007's Note - If you were my mate I'd avoid talking about football with you.}

29 Dec 2019 20:55:20
😂😂😂.

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29 Dec 2019 16:34:33
We will still win this title by double points!

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29 Dec 2019 17:02:41
Can’t see the reason for your optimism Kev not one bit of me unfortunately.

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29 Dec 2019 17:07:33
Double points! I take it you never watched the game today.

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29 Dec 2019 17:09:18
Not a chance in hell will we win the league by double points had we won today we maybe would have won it by double points but not I’m afraid it’s advantage to sevco.

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29 Dec 2019 17:18:28
Kev 83, I wish I had the same confidence as you. Clearly we’re seeing things differently. The past month or so performances have been poor at best, yes we’ve gotten results but performance wise it’s been poor. Now people will say we’ve played X amount of games, but so have they yet the past two games against them only one team has looked interested, surely u can agree with that. So where does this confidence come from regarding double points? For me it’s about time some folk took their heads out their backsides and see that there is a real challenge here. Yes I feel we’re the better squad, but if we don’t turn up in these games against them it’s going to come back to hurt us.

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29 Dec 2019 17:24:02
What's makes u think that kev. Especially if the likes of boli keep playing for us.

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29 Dec 2019 17:50:58
Very bold and defiant Kev; but even you must be a wee bit concerned about our situation? Tactics, Team selections, Substitutions and so many players going missing in these games actually worries me too.

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29 Dec 2019 17:58:06
Kev you're bang on we will win the league by double points. Wish the rest of the clowns look at the big picture instead of the last 90 mins. Modern day mentality we're either world beaters or totally pish, only as good as your last 90 mins in today's world.

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29 Dec 2019 17:59:55
I hope you're right Kev, I feel a bit flat after that.

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29 Dec 2019 18:19:53
Then Moses parted the waves and wolf from gladiator jumped out shouting "Waaaaaaaaa".

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29 Dec 2019 18:30:50
Whit?

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29 Dec 2019 19:32:26
I can’t see us winning it by double points, they look like they steam roller teams at the minute. They have spent money and improved, we need to push on . I’m not sure looking at our side if they feel they can go to Ibrox now and get a result, mentally they don’t seem to.

I had concerns for a while now, I appreciate we beat them at Ibrox in the first game, but two defeats there last year, the second home game when they had 10 men they looked like winning and obviously the cup final. This team doesn’t look capable of turning up against them.

Also has Gerrard for lennies number as we seem clueless how to change it against them, we are so flat against them it’s unbelievable.

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29 Dec 2019 16:25:56
Very disappointed with the performance today. Losing is a sicker to this lot but to lose like we did is hard to take. We didn't learn lessons from the cup final in my opinion and paid the price. They have clearly identified like we all know it's in midfield where it's won and losts on most occasions and they played 3 again like the cup final in the middle against our 2 and we got well and truly outplayed.

I was happy to see Christie in his normal role and MJ on the wing. How wrong l was. We have nothing from the wide men today and were second to the ball for most of the day. Yes we were tired but its them in the last game before the break and we allowed them to dictate the game from the start.

I could never understand how people though we would win comfortable after the last game against them. They seem to have worked out a way to play us with a high press which is what we use to do to them. And l have to say how people think boli is good enough for Celtic baffles me. The guy is poor and should be behind Hayes and Taylor. If l was Taylor and can't get a game now l would asking to go out on loan because if he can't after that then he never will. Lennon also needs to look at himself. Certain players were struggling and badly today but not changed. This can't happen again or it could cost us the league.

It's now time to reflect and come back fresh for an almighty finish to a season where the league is very much up for graps.

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29 Dec 2019 17:44:41
There is no way we will win this league by double points, you really need to take your tinted glasses off or pass round whatever that is that your drinking. This will go right down to the wire and right now I will take losing in the Europa League so we get our focus back on the League.
Remember the Seville run, we ended up winning nothing that year.
This is going to be decided on the Derby games and we now need to at least win one and draw one.

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29 Dec 2019 18:18:00
Remember getting told that this time last season by the panic merchants Jonbhoy. Yawwwwwwnnnnn🤭🤭🤭.

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30 Dec 2019 03:04:22
Panic mechants is it Stevie? since Lennon has came back in, how many points have they won compaired to us? We have won 74 Points and they have won 76, Oh and they have a game in hand
But even though we still have people like yourself and others that think we will romp thius league and the Messiah that is Lennon can do no wrong.

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29 Dec 2019 16:06:33
Hard to know where to start with that. They have now overrun us in midfield for the second game in succession. Kills me to say it. We were so lacklustre that we weren't even showing for throw-in's, nevermind tackles.

I think we need a couple of new midfield recruits so McGregor can take a long deserved rest. Brown was arguably our best player today but I think we need to start thinking about his long term replacement. We need more energy and creativity in there.

We are absolutely crying out for another striker, we wll know that. Hopefully January will see a few come in and we will be reenergised to finish the job.

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29 Dec 2019 16:44:17
Agree with u there. But they have played 3 CM in the last 2 games against us and totally outplayed us over the 2 games.

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29 Dec 2019 16:49:19
I think it really needs a couple of players that have some nastiness. not dangerous but a bit more steel as we currently possess. I thought eddy was fairly lost and the lack of space stifled any options. Needed someone with strength and the ability to bully their defence.

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29 Dec 2019 17:05:24
Brown might have played well, but I think the midfield doesn't perform when he is part of it, I would drop him and try a midfield of Christie, Ntcham, McGregor and Forrest.

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29 Dec 2019 16:06:09
I'll say one thing, our pressing has went to rubbish under Lennon. We used to press like a pack of wolves.

That was horrendous to watch.
Can anyone tell me what our game plan was today?

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29 Dec 2019 16:01:31
Today was rotten and they got the result they should have got in the cup final. A lot of fans got the more balanced formation they were looking for but unfortunately Forrest, Johnston and Christie were all way below par. Shoehorning Ntcham in hasn't been ideal at times but at least he never goes hiding against them. We need to take it on the chin and do some good business in January. We're potentially 1 point behind at worst so it's far from a disaster. Lennon can't justify Boli being our number one LB after that display though.

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29 Dec 2019 16:48:52
Kevbhoy boli is no where near good enough but people on here before the game were saying he had to play. Taylor and Hayes are far better than him. Taylor must be thinking what have l got to do to get a game. I was one who hoped Christie and Johnstone played but l hold my hands up. Johnstone was poor and Forrest was shocking.

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30 Dec 2019 01:04:44
Hayes is a honking option at LB but after today I'd rather have seen him chucked in than Boli. And that's me eating a bug old tray of humble pie.

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29 Dec 2019 16:01:16
Big ajer is 6.5feet and decided al no bother jumping at there 2nd goal even if the guy has a run on you at least jump and put him off.

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29 Dec 2019 15:40:57
Team selection cost us the game. Why didn’t we go with the format that’ had us dominating the last few matches. When we play Johnstone and Forrest we surrender the midfield.

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29 Dec 2019 16:25:42
When forrest plays we're a man down.

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29 Dec 2019 16:33:48
Correct gutless heartless bawless wee imposter.

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29 Dec 2019 16:36:25
Except he's one of top scorers and assist makers this season. Just like the last 2. Not bad for always being a man down.

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29 Dec 2019 15:27:32
They were hungrier than us from start to finish we got away with it in the cup final but not today if we can't motivate ourselves for these games then that's a bigger problem than a simple defeat simply not good enough today.

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29 Dec 2019 15:51:20
The cup final was a warning not-heeded, because the performance was masked by a trophy win - that everyone was happy to get.
Slippy and McAllister have moulded and motivated a consistent (if not classy) team, with a desire that we seem to have lost recently
and I know there were some tired and jaded players in Hoops, but they have played almost the same amount of games; but knew how to nullify our attacks for large parts of the game today - helped by the total ineffectiveness of some wee lightweights - especially on our wings, while our manager looked on and hoped for the best.
The manager and team deserve a lot of credit for everything they have achieved up-to-today, but going missing in these games will cost us severely and no wonder Broony was going nuts with some of his disappointing team-mates today.
That puts them in the driving seat.

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29 Dec 2019 17:01:53
Pish! The lot of you, the sooner fans realise we won't win every game the better. This "entitlement" nonsense that has crept in is doing my nut in. I was sitting there today and from the first 5 mins all I heard was negativity from 2 or 3 around me, multiply that by 5000 its a lot of whinging b******* every sideways pass there was groans this is undoubtedly affecting the team. 10 trophies in a row yet we are still negative. Get a grip nothing lost today.

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29 Dec 2019 18:16:05
Sorry Stevie what was pish in my post? Was it that we were not as hungry as them today or in the cup final. Was it our lack of motivation in the last two Glasgow derby games or the fact that both performances were unacceptable. Or Is it the fact I think we have some real problems at the club.

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29 Dec 2019 15:25:29
Old firms are win in the middle of the park and yet again we have surrendered it . Mickey shouldn't have been on the park you could see it after 10 mins and yet again Forrest hasn't turned up against them . I think after 15 mins Lenny should have pulled Christie back beside brown and McGregor and made a 3 and got a hold of the middle of the park . The worrying thing for me is that we are far to predictable and they know how to set up against us .

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29 Dec 2019 15:45:49
Lennon has not got a clue how to play them same set up each time no change in formation. When a blind man can see its not working he just has one way to play and can't change it don't think he knows how, at half time there should have been a change in formation or players but just too keep it as is was so stupid. We have by far the better players but we are getting pumped each time we play them lucky in the cup final no clue about changing formation He has to go NOW.

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29 Dec 2019 16:02:26
You having a laugh he played the same formation at there place and we pumped them.

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29 Dec 2019 16:02:53
Glasgow derby.

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29 Dec 2019 16:23:03
Mick from what I could see that was the problem Christie did drop back into a middle 3 just ahead of brown and mcgregor but instead of staying in that 3 brown drops even further back almost into a 3rd cb 🤷‍♂️ Leaving 2 in cm and eddy on his own with no support and the wingers on there own too, we don’t press like we used too we sit in which is leaving us toothless in attack and inviting pressure the tactics and formation is mince.

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29 Dec 2019 16:50:40
I agree mate you put our 3 against there 3 and get a hold of the middle of the park but when Christie drops so does brown and as a whole the entire team drop I would rather we went 3against there 3 and pressed them getting the whole team further forward and on the front foot . but we didn’t press them at all and let them dictate the game . The frustrating thing is for me that as predictable as we are they are just as predictable but we don’t look at the way they set up and think how we can counter them . We seem to think if we turn up we win and that is not the case we need to earn the right to play our game . If we try and get beat then so be it sometimes that’s the way it is but if you get beat and don’t turn up that is so much harder to take and unacceptable.

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29 Dec 2019 15:23:04
On here daily n like to read other fans thoughts.
Today, Forrest again shows why he should not be involved, an empty shirt, Mikey not at it from the start, good impact player at mo.
Tactical, Julien could have had 2 but for goal line clearances, pen miss, why is Edouard not taking them?
Re Sky, thought Boyd was embarrassing as a supposed non bias pundit, down south carriigar, Neville etc at least have a balanced opinion, today he might as well sat with a strip on.

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29 Dec 2019 17:08:19
I can't understand why people keep saying why wasnt eddy taking the pen when Christie has been the taker for 2 seasons.

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29 Dec 2019 17:16:58
Don’t know why you can’t understand that people want Eddy to hit the penalties.

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29 Dec 2019 15:12:19
team were burst today. can't win forever. wee frimpong for me is too small and not a natural defender. winger maybe? other than that. it is what it is. am i gutted. of course. am i devastated. nope. well romp it second half of the season. HH.

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29 Dec 2019 15:18:21
Kev 83 made a point a while back and I wasn’t sure about it, but el Hamed at right back with wee frimpong one up could be a great shout! Frimpong done more in that last bit up the pitch than forest managed the whole game! Lick our wounds lads and come back stronger! We’re still in a great position and need this rest big time!

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29 Dec 2019 15:20:43
We were ran into the ground over December, im more than comfertable with a couple of new faces to freshen it up we will motor on in the league. No trophies were won or lost today, let them celebrate a good win, its all they will have to remember this season by.

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29 Dec 2019 15:24:06
Gerry as I said on the live chat. Frimpong is around 5.9. Guys like Jackie mac, KT and mcgrain were about 5.10.

Though I do believe the bhoy is wasted as a fullback and should be pushed up to winger.

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29 Dec 2019 15:29:03
What’s Sevco’s excuse for having the stamina for it today then? Tiredness is a tired excuse!

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29 Dec 2019 16:26:15
Danny I think the way forrest is being asked to tuck in to give were frimpong room is killing his game.

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29 Dec 2019 15:10:20
Just watched Lennon's interview, he must be totally deluded if he doesn't think we didn't deserve to lose that.
God knows what we are in for over the next 5 months.

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29 Dec 2019 15:29:26
We were shocking, that has been coming, hope lesson are karne, too many passengers.

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29 Dec 2019 15:48:38
No clue Lennon didn't help.

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29 Dec 2019 16:26:53
Lennon will be saying one thing to the press and another behind closed doors. Every manager does it.

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29 Dec 2019 15:06:12
Rest dust down new faces go again we are still top hard month of football well earned rest it's not over yet plenty to play for team looks jaded as we didn't show enough fight but the players know what's needed they will be hurting inside and come back stronger.

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29 Dec 2019 14:52:37
Tbh that defeat has been on the cards for a few weeks now.
To have a go at MJ when clearly some of our so called big players never turned up is just looking for a scapegoat.
The fact is that we got turned over by the better team.

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29 Dec 2019 14:57:37
Tru. MJ did more then Forrest that's for sure.

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29 Dec 2019 15:01:55
Another totally inept performance, totally run over in midfield and unless we improve massively after the break the league is gone.
I don't care if these were our first points dropped at home we have been very luck with the way we have played.
I said at the beginning of this season that this league will come down to these derbies and I was berated by people saying we would walk it, we'll it doesn't look like we will walk it now.
We need major surgery in the transfer window or we are fecked.

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29 Dec 2019 15:02:41
Naw he didn't. Not once did he do anything meaningful. Forrest was garbage as was christie and eddy. But to say micky done more than anyone else is bollocks.

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29 Dec 2019 15:09:03
I thought he looked more threatening kev. Didn't give the ball away as much and to be honest looked more interested. Was still well below the performance I would expect but I don't think that's bollocks at all.

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29 Dec 2019 15:21:03
Jim he never once threatened, not once. He gave the ball away everytime he got it or was just brushed aside.

If this wasnt johnstone of our youth development we were talking about not one person would be defending him. I wouldn't even rate his performance as a 1 along with forrest and christie.

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29 Dec 2019 15:22:40
They're a better team than us. I'm saying it. They played us off the park in the cup final too. Lennon is kidding himself on if he thinks we deserved to win here. We should NEVER be losing to that at home.

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29 Dec 2019 16:26:10
I've mentioned a few times that MJ is far to lightweight to start these games. We need a strong midfield to get a hold of the game and then bring him on for the last 20 mins.
Another thing I noticed over the last few games is how ball greedy a few of our forward players are, they try and go passed 3 or 4 players and shooting instead of passing.
God knows how many times there were men open and they try and do it all themselves. I know we have still won the games but recently we have been scraping by.

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29 Dec 2019 14:48:14
My friends Enrico is very frustrated today. I feel as if the cup final and this game today makes sevco look a stronger team.

Celtic never got going today we must add a new striker french Eddy needs help in scoring the goals. At the same time I do not know why french Eddy didn't hit the penalty why is Christie taking it?

I would have started with Hayes down the left today as well. Boli try's but just feel Hayes would have been a better option.

Celtic must regroup and hit the ground running after the break.

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29 Dec 2019 14:53:13
Enrico, the 4 penalties we have been awarded this season ( I know, a shocking stay ) have been taken by Christie and he has scored them, I would have liked Eddy to take it.

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29 Dec 2019 14:58:53
Hindsight is a fine thing. I would have rather taken it, but penalty takers are decided behind the scenes and usually for good reason.

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29 Dec 2019 15:03:57
Ok I understand guys.

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29 Dec 2019 15:06:59
Christie missed up at county.

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29 Dec 2019 15:09:16
Christie has been the penalty taker for about 2 seasons.
Only time you hear why wasnt he taking it is when someone misses.

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29 Dec 2019 15:30:19
French Eddy doesn’t miss penalties he has chipped in with a few from the spot.

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29 Dec 2019 17:52:35
No professional footballer should miss a penalty unless it's a great save, and that's what it was.

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29 Dec 2019 14:45:26
Well there we go. For the last 2 games against them they have been the better team and anyone who thinks otherwise has their green tinted glasses on. We are not strong enough in midfield and MJ is so over hyped it's frustrating.
They are definitely on a par with us something that should never have happened.
I could say more but would probably get accused of over reacting so I'll keep it to myself. Hopefully we take the break and come back stronger but that depends on who we recruit and we do need to recruit.

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29 Dec 2019 14:57:27
His weird running in a circle had me flummoxed. ladstoo easily knocked off ball.

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29 Dec 2019 15:03:39
Say what you need to. We sold a proper CF for 20m and didn't replace him. Players who have shirked those games time and again will not get a mention. We try to play a type of football that is too good for us whilst failing with basics. Our rivals generally just look more up for it. And we're playing a young kid as a creative player whilst we have trully stagnated a player who was arguably the best in the league at the time. We've skimped and acted rrally poorly as a club and allowed them back in the game. It's not over yet mind.

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29 Dec 2019 15:10:08
Jim we did replace him. Eddy was bought as his replacement because we knew hed be sold.

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29 Dec 2019 15:21:51
Well then that's even worse Kev. That just sounds sorry. I mean, they played in the same side, pretty well too, how can one be a replacement for the other. Or is it Edouard we haven't replaced? I'm confused.

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29 Dec 2019 15:22:17
Was going to suggest there's maybe games where we are better suited going in without traditional wingers. Solidity until games established but I'm not Neil Lennon. Ah well better team won. But then there's always the buffalo.

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29 Dec 2019 15:32:10
How is Eddy Dembeles replacement? Never heard so much garbage in my life. Dembele has never been replaced Fact.

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29 Dec 2019 16:30:49
Eddy was bought because dembele was always leaving.
If anyone couldn't see that then they are as blind as a bat.
You think the celtic board would have spent 9 million on a player if they didn't know a check for more than double that was coming.
As for they played together that's nonsense as they were hardly ever in the same team. Eddy was back up and came on for dembele most the time.

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29 Dec 2019 16:38:00
And I will tell you something. We will buy eddys replacement well before he's sold as well.

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29 Dec 2019 16:48:17
We need a striker for sure but I believe the answer to our problems are a fit and hungry Leigh Griffiths 🤷‍♂️.

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29 Dec 2019 17:34:03
Nonsense we had 3 strikers Dembele Griff and young Eddy who was a bright prospect to bring in. He was never dembeles replacement never in a million years.

Dembele has never been replaced people who think he has been are the ones deluded.

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29 Dec 2019 14:36:21
Yet again, another no show in that fixture. Not 1 player gets a pass mark. Could see from the first whistle only one team with the hunger the desire to win that match. We've been mediocre at best this past month or so and got good results. any fan out there that thinks this title is in the bag wants to take a right good look AGAIN. we stole that league cup and were honkin that day and go out and produce another honkin display again. Forrest especially, he needs dropped, and not just based on today's game but he's been rotten fur weeks now. I don't care we've won this, we've done that, bla bla bla, that today AGAIN is another shocking display against that mob, no hunger no desire feck all.

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29 Dec 2019 14:41:18
Brown and McGregor get pass marks. They covered every blade of grass and were fighting a losing battle by themselves all game.

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29 Dec 2019 14:52:22
Broony and calmac did play well but our attacking players were nullified and it was so frustrating.

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29 Dec 2019 14:54:19
Its easy to be critical especially when we lose like that. Brown was excellent imo. Johnston was terrible and worse than a player down offered absolutely nothing. didn't win a tackle kept on losing the ball, brushed off too easily. Has played in multiple derby games now and has been rank in the lot of them. Shows up for Hamilton. Julien played well, Christie was rotten today too. We looked better when Nitcham and Bitton came on as our midfield was overun yet again. Everytime they look stronger and I still feel we have better players in there. Our team looks tired and the winter break cannot come soon enough. We lost last year and went on a run after that to win title. Have faith we will be better after the break. hopefully. But he cannot persist with Mickey we really miss Mo.

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29 Dec 2019 15:01:18
Brown McGregor and Frimpong get pass Mark's. Forrest is back to his old self and Johnston was to weak in attack. We end the year on a low but hopefully we regroup and add a few quality players and shift all the dead wood. Had The thug or Jack on for red card. Morelos delivers! Any onlookers looking to buy him will have left laughing at his crazy antics and price tag. Awe well beaten by the better team on the day. Drink and Drugs where invented for days like this.

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29 Dec 2019 15:06:31
I don't know why Lennon persists in playing just 2 in the middle, they are always over running us in midfield and we were shocking.

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29 Dec 2019 15:07:54
Broony played well.

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29 Dec 2019 15:26:38
I think changing forrest to lw and christie to rw in previous games disrubted the flow we were playing good foodball before that, there have been signs in last few games we were riding our luck, only thing now is there will be a good look at new players were as if we won maybe there wouldn't be as much of a great deal.

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29 Dec 2019 15:49:15
It was the forward line that let us down today. The top 4 were all rotten. Lennon took far too long to change it.

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29 Dec 2019 15:49:55
Kev I thought Ajer and Julien played well. Had Morelos covered unlike the cup final. Though I haven't watched the goals back so not sure how culpable they were.

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29 Dec 2019 16:31:57
Big buds I am a fan of ajer but he was shocking at their goal and the 2 corners that came before it.

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29 Dec 2019 14:35:24
Out coached, out played and out performed. AGAIN. this defeat lies firmly at the door of Neil Lennon. Tactical naivety of the highest order. the reality is that we have been out played in 4 of the last 5 games against them. irrespective of the results. relying on luck is not a tactic.

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29 Dec 2019 14:37:40
Disagree completely. The players didn't show up, again!

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29 Dec 2019 14:41:18
Get away with ye, Lenny sent out the strongest side we had available, apart in my mind from MJ, the players have been tired for a month now, it was always going to be a struggle to get them to the break, we didn’t make it. We will be back stronger with a fully fit squad and maybe a few new faces, Roll on the Nine and maybe another treble.

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29 Dec 2019 14:51:38
Mali after 20 minutes there were calls for Johnstone to be whipped off and lennon waited till the hour mark. He made a major mistake dropping ntcham and I said it before the kick off.

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29 Dec 2019 14:52:56
Firmly at the door of Lennon? Jog on arbee! Maybe the front 4 could show up and take the pressure off other guys like brown and McGregor.

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29 Dec 2019 14:57:05
I disagree too HT, most people were saying before the game that it's our strongest 11 apart from Mo.

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29 Dec 2019 15:00:18
Kev, I didn’t want him to start.

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29 Dec 2019 15:07:21
I know mally but to say Lennon isn't to blame isn't true either.

He shoulders as much blame as the players. He got it wrong then he took a hour to change anything. He then went to 2 upfront and waited to 10 minutes to go to put griffiths on

Some of they players need their baws toed but lennon need to take a look at himself.

This carry on playing johnstone morgan and hayes when we have better options in the stand is a disgrace and could cost us the league like it did the champions league.

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29 Dec 2019 15:15:17
Most folk did. We didn't do the basics. Was like watching last season away in Europe. Forgot how to pass. Trying to walk the ball into the net instead of shooting. So frustrating.

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29 Dec 2019 15:34:49
Lenny send out the strongest team? Yeah! To play exactly the same way as we did in previous performances where we got played off the park. tactics needed changed. not personnel, Lennon hung the fullbacks and McGregor and Brown out to dry, play the same, expect the same.

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29 Dec 2019 15:53:19
I expect Forrest Christie and Johnson to show up, Édouard no critism here as he can't do it all up front himself all the time, tactics no an issue individual performances were.

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29 Dec 2019 16:33:29
Dasa eddy never held the ball up or put the defenders under any pressure. He was poor as well.

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29 Dec 2019 14:35:13
My god we were bad get the cheque book out pronto our midfield were outnumbered lenny should have whipped Johnstone after 20 mins.

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29 Dec 2019 14:32:16
Johnstone is never going to be the player people on here and amongst the wider fan base think he's going to be.

Hes to lightweight, he's to greedy, doesn't lift his head and disappears EVERY big game

Lennon got his line up wrong today and didn't change it soon enough
Ntcham being took out for a wee boy that gets bullied out the game was a major mistake.

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29 Dec 2019 14:36:01
Wasn't Lenny's fault today. Was the players. The likes of forrest, boli, ajer not doing enough.

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29 Dec 2019 14:38:11
There’s your predictable crap about Johnstone at least he tried to make something happen unlike that wee coward Forrest absolute imposter.

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29 Dec 2019 14:39:33
Lennon got the line up wrong. We could all see that at after 20 minutes and we never changed a thing till the hour mark.
He shares as much blame as the players.

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29 Dec 2019 14:45:02
Am I the only one that thinks frimpong looked like a wee school boy lost . love him but.

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29 Dec 2019 14:46:09
Vin1 if you were a regular poster youd know this is not a new or knee jerk opinion. I have said this since he first broke through and am being proved right everytime he plays a big game.
As for your forrest remark, well seeing as he has done the job at EVERY level for celtic then I'd say he brings far more to the squad than johnstone ever will.

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29 Dec 2019 14:46:51
Myself and most fans wanted Christie in the middle and forest on the right and both played well below their best as most of the team did would have ntcham starting made a difference, I don't think so. They were better than us all over the park for the second game in a row whether we like it or not there is a serious challenge this season.

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29 Dec 2019 14:48:55
We need competition for forrest. The imposter knows he's guaranteed a start.

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29 Dec 2019 15:00:33
I think it would have helped kmitch67. It would have toughened up the middle for a start.

With ntcham in there then Christie tucking in from the right wed have had the numbers in there.
This isn't a knee jerk for me. The guys from the live chat will tell you I said mid week that we shouldn't be changing it.

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29 Dec 2019 15:39:46
Were all hurting but come on Ht and vin1 forest had a rubbish game but imposter get a grip.

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29 Dec 2019 15:46:00
Kev I'm one of those fans and you are right. He was ineffectual today along with Forrest, Christie and Edouard. Bolingoli should be nowhere near a Celtic Jersey either.

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29 Dec 2019 15:47:07
Lennon picks the side then motivates them before and during the game. He also decides the tactics and when to change them. To say he's not at fault is ludicrous.

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29 Dec 2019 16:10:07
Can accept him having a rubbish game but having no appetite no heart no guts no fight is unacceptable.

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29 Dec 2019 14:31:48
Best team won today. Hopefully we can recoup the same as last year.

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29 Dec 2019 14:37:28
They are a much better side this year. The title is not guaranteed. Hopefully Gerrard and Morelos get poached in January.

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29 Dec 2019 14:23:12
If that is celtic best team, then I'm worried for the rest of the season. Watching this today has been tough, again they are better than us today, showed more desire, we have been second to everything again, if you can't raise game to beat them, you don't deserve to be in team. Simple as that.

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29 Dec 2019 10:47:00
Cmon the hoops, let's destroy these pretenders today. See Gerrard laughing at man utd as they are behind Liverpool, thought he would be used to that as he never won the league as player or as manager, infact, he has won nothing as manager long may it continue. Haha.

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29 Dec 2019 11:19:23
That was an absolute belter of a comment from slippy g, Man Utd v Liverpool isn’t the same because Man U aren’t at the top of the league! He’s basically just said everyone of his league campaigns with Liverpool meant f**k all! Because they didn’t get a sniff for over 25 years! Deluded and suits sevco down to the ground! Can’t wait to hear his exuses after a skelping today!

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29 Dec 2019 12:05:37
My thoughts exactly. Shows how rubbish he was, he must get haunting memories, that his slip cost them there best chance so far of winning the Premier league. Must gutted to know, that henderson has already lifted a trophy he hasn't and will again in May.

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29 Dec 2019 09:07:51
Happy skelping day bhoys.

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29 Dec 2019 10:31:41
That would be a great end to the year. HH.

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28 Dec 2019 23:55:12
Forster
Frimpong
Jullien
Ajer
Boli
Broony
Calmac
Forrest
Christie
Hayes
Edouard

Apparently team above.

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29 Dec 2019 00:21:55
This will be the team I would imagine ORD, let's everyone play in their best natural position, I would probably have Johnston instead of Hayes but Hayes probably offers better cover for Boli.

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29 Dec 2019 08:16:25
Dont say that lol. Hayes?
Bizarre if true.

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29 Dec 2019 08:33:27
Only change I'd make would be johnstone for hayes.

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29 Dec 2019 08:49:18
It allows forrest to play on the right and Christie in no 10 so happy with that. Would have preferred johnstone but we'll see how it goes. Should have more than enough to win.

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29 Dec 2019 09:11:56
I agree with that HT. The fact we have Edouard will make us a different animal to the last game.

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29 Dec 2019 11:20:49
I'd change it even more and go with a back 3. Got a feeling Slippy will change it as well and have a front two of Defoe and El Coo. That'll leave enough scope in midfield for us to counter-attack or consolidate. In the CF they huffed and puffed and ended up getting nowhere.
I'd go

The Wall

Ajer
Jullien
Bitton

Frimmy
Gump
Broony
Calmac
Boli

Corpus
Eddy

I'd have Gump switching wings when need to. I've also got a premonition that El Heifer will score against us.

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{Ed007's Note - Celtic XI v TRIFC: Forster, Frimpong, Jullien, Ajer, Bolingoli, Brown, Johnston, McGregor, Christie, Forrest, Edouard.
Subs: Gordon, Hayes, Bitton, Bauer, Rogic, Ntcham, Griffiths

29 Dec 2019 11:47:08
Although I'll be delighted if Christie plays through the middle how could Lennon justify playing Hayes on the wing?

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29 Dec 2019 12:09:25
That would be the weakest left side in recent memory.
Go with the same lineup as Boxing Day or start with Johnston on the left, they are the 2 options Lenny has, without complicating things further.

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