Celtic Banter Archive April 21 2016

21 Apr 2016 22:11:06
Hey ed heard anything else about who going to be getting the job any contact with anyone.

{Ed007's Note - Nothing yet mate.}

21 Apr 2016 23:23:55
Don't think even Dermott and Lawwell will know for sure yet tbh.

22 Apr 2016 08:25:19
I reckon it will be oneill as director of football and Keane manager. No inside info or anything, just gut feeling. Personally not convinced about Keane, i'm saying that i wasnt convinced about oneills appointment the first time round so what do i know.

21 Apr 2016 21:44:42
Ed, can you explain to me why Celtic have such a large squad . If we're downsizing why do we have so many players . Given lawells reputation I find it hard to see why we waste so much money on wages . Kasim Richards for example . Fans weren't excited with signing so it's not that, he's clearly not good enough to start so why are we continually paying wages to players if we are trying to cut costs . Add Carlton Cole, Scott Allan to that and several others, then Celtic transfer policy is actually unexplainable . Who made decision on these players . What benefit did anyone see from them .

{Ed007's Note - I've no idea mate why we have a squad the size we have. When RD came in he said he likes a smaller squad and last summer he said the same thing. In January he said he wanted a squad of 20-22 quality players with the rest made up of youth players yet Lawwell and Park just kept signing more and more average players without moving out any the fringe players and offering contract to wasters likes Commons.}

21 Apr 2016 22:17:37
Yes I don't understand it, signings that don't get the fans on board, can't get a game and don't cut the wage bill . Everything you'd look for in a signing . Unbelievable.

21 Apr 2016 23:21:43
Do you think PL is a fan of football manager who has let it go to his head? Anytime I play that, within a few seasons my squad is always ridiculously huge. I even need to start demoting players to the reserves so I can free up spaces to go see what good free transfers are available that season. Then I offer contracts to players who don't play just to be able to command a fee even though there is never any bids. Difference is, I'm usually winning the champions league and treble with the 15-18 players who actually get a game and have shit loads of money to burn anyway.

22 Apr 2016 07:38:53
I reckon possible tax avoidance schemes. By signing players don't need to give money to taxman. This being the case, PL and JP should be taken to court. lol.

21 Apr 2016 21:28:29
Neil Lennon - hardly set the heather alight in his last season

Malky Mackay - apart from a brief spell of success at cardiff and getting caught out being a tool, hasn't really shown much.

Moyes - will need a big blank cheque to take advantage of any "contacts" he's made in england. Sure he never had a lot to spend compared to others in that league but anyone coming here from england will cost alot.

Lambert - still hasn't mastered the english language

Stubbs - not yet

Larsson - isn't interested

Paul Hartley - another deila in the making.

Roy Keane - no! Terrible attitude issues and did nothing of any worthwhile at ipswich and sunderland.

Spoilt for choice aren't we.

21 Apr 2016 23:11:08
I find it amazing that everyone only sees the bad things Roy Keane has done and conviently forget about actually what he did do . Took a team from bottom of championship and actually won the league . Then kept them in league . Sure he made some bad transfer decisions but which manager in the epl hasn't . He done a fantastic job at Sunderland . Ipswich I don't know the ins and outs but yes that went wrong .
I really think Keane deserves a chance and he would be my choice.

21 Apr 2016 23:29:38
You forgot Brendan Rodgers mate.

23 Apr 2016 13:44:35
Roy Rogers for me. He had a horse too, which could be used to back kick the deadwood out of the door.

If he can't make it, his brother Buck could step in with that annoying as feck robot to fill the Collins role.

21 Apr 2016 20:45:29
Ronny Deila has no one to blame but himself for me, sure, you can argue that he has not been backed properly in certain areas of the park, especially up front where as much as Griffiths has done well domestically this season he won't take us to the next level and score goals consistently against tougher opposition in Europe and in high pressure situations. One on ones wit the keeper he is very poor at also which has cost us at times like Ajax for example.

Anyway, for me Ronny has been far too faithful to constantly under-performing players and with this imo he has paid the price with his job. When fit these players have been played more often than not regardless of their poor form and in the end for me these players are the most culpable for the team under performing week after week under him.

These players for me are.

Scott Brown
Stefan Johansen
Gary Mackay Steven
Stuart Armstrong
Dedrick Boyata
Charlie Mulgrew

By sticking with these players every week, these utter imposters imo, Ronny has lost his job. People may say I'm being harsh on Mulgrew putting him amongst that lot but let's not forget his performances against Legia and Malmo which were despicable and atrocious under Deila and Europe is a huge blot on if not the biggest blot on Deila's time here.

I just hope for the next managers sake he doesn't have ANY of these players near his side or again he may suffer the same consequences.

21 Apr 2016 21:51:42
Think your a bit harsh on armstrong. The guy has been played out of position all season. He hasn't turned into a bad player. Also mulgrew has been out for most of the season and when he has came in he has balanced out the defence. The rest of who you mentioned i agree.

21 Apr 2016 22:47:08
Players have not played well, but the major fault was the manager. The flaws of the system were there for all to see on Sunday, these players will be better next season when the team shape is better.

21 Apr 2016 20:19:24
farewell Ronny and good luck I've no doubt when you go we will still be on our way to ten in a row. Now next manager that is the big debate at the mo. We have a core group of good youngsters which we have to build around with some experience and fight. This for me rules out moyes and Lennon straight away. Keane? Heart says yes head says no. Stubbs Larsson hartley Evans definitely NO. So unless we pull a rabbit out of the hat with a forward thinking European manager ( which is what we all hoped Ronny was) where do we go. Personally think with the arrival of the newco next season dd will insist on Keane. But who knows, interesting times ahead bhoys keep the faith HH.

21 Apr 2016 21:17:32
They could always appoint John Park as manager, he seems to be responsible for most of the players being at the club, why not go the whole hog and let him coach them as well.

21 Apr 2016 19:15:03
Regarding the players who may or may not have downed tools for Ronnie:
When the new man comes in he should get rid - set the standard highand emphasis his intent for the season ahead.

I remember hearing a story about MON's introductory speach to the team when he arrived; apparently he burst in and slaughtered them for losing the league the previous season by such a disgraceful margin and then stormed out - enough said!

Whoever comes in has to be the boss, take no prisoners and be strong with the board.

For me I would keep brown but not as captain, I'd keep mulgrew for continuity but I would ship out commons and forest - attitude and lack of skill respectively.

A squad can't be completely culled in one swing of the axe, but I would make sure that GMS, Cole, boyata, ambrose, bitton and SJ all know their jerseys are on the shoogliest of pegs. I would sell any of them if the bid was suitable and to make room for better.

My priority is the right man at the helm, then buy one stand out player to bring back the feel good factor.

Hail hail.

21 Apr 2016 18:30:47
read a wee article the other day kind a stuck in the throat
"I'm bitter! "
from auld wattie,
well slap ma thighs n call me betty eh?
next thingt we know wee durranty will be sayin,
" celtic made me this shape! "
or big bainy sayin " wee pat burnt ma heid "
wtf.

21 Apr 2016 17:42:15
So Moyes might be going back to Everton but still flirting with Villa

Rodgers might be going back to Swansea

Michael O'Neill and Keane will be involved in the Euros up until 72 / 96 hours before our first CL game

Off to a flyer already folks :-s.

21 Apr 2016 16:59:08
"Some players will be happy to see me go " says it all and confirms there was a split dressing room, those guilty of not giving their all should hang their heads in shame and never be allowed to wear the hoops again. Could probably name at least 3 or 4 of the culprits.

21 Apr 2016 17:10:10
Stevie i wouldn't be surprised if Scott Brown was one of them.

21 Apr 2016 17:25:38
If PL had any decency and thoughts about making a transition easier for the new manager, he'd ask for a hit list and give them away. Better of losing players like that for free.

21 Apr 2016 17:36:13
I agree in principle but to play devil's advocate, context is king here. He was asked the question and said: "Some will be a little bit sad, some will be happy. " Whilst I have no doubt some players didn't give their all, this statement could be applied to every team that ever had a manager departing.

21 Apr 2016 17:36:26
He was on the list DN, Forrest and Commons without a doubt as well

21 Apr 2016 17:49:46
Yip Commons . Brown, Forrest

As soon as he handed a new contract to anyone they stopped trying IMO.

21 Apr 2016 17:50:32
I'm not saying there isn't some kind of problem at most clubs between certain players and management TPP but not many managers make this kind of statement when leaving unless there is something major went on .

21 Apr 2016 19:41:00
I agree Stevie, I'm just making the point that the press are already turning it into a "players will be happy I'm leaving" headline and that's not quite what was said. I honestly, having heard it, think it was a diplomatic mibbes aye, mibbes naw answer. That said, I don't doubt that your sentiment is spot on.

21 Apr 2016 15:20:33
David Moyes or Brendan Rodgers with Steve Clarke as assistant would be my preferred choice. Great knowledge of Europe between them.

21 Apr 2016 15:43:08
Did they used to watch Michael Palin series together or something?

21 Apr 2016 16:14:14
Some chance of getting Stevie Clarke to come to Celtic as an assistant to Moyes or Rodgers.

21 Apr 2016 17:06:51
Why do people keep trying to handpick an assistant. Most of us didn't like the fact that JC was instated by PL. So why then start throwing names into a hat for No2s. Whoever gets the managers job should decide and that should be that.

{Ed007's Note - Go back and read through the posts on here and you'll find that most people were pleased, some were even delighted, at Collins' appointment.}

21 Apr 2016 17:42:04
Spot on. To appoint JC was a crazy move. He has a massive ego and was surprised he accepted no. 2 slot. He probably thought that RD would not last and he would replace him. Just hope he is dumped as well.

21 Apr 2016 14:14:55
Seen someone mentioned Jorge Sampaoli as a potential candidate. Anyone know much about him? All i know is he won the copa america with chile and did decent in the world cup with them as well. Currently without a job also.

{Ed001's Note - he did some great work with Chile but also there were a few issues. Plays good football, but he would also command a good wage.}

21 Apr 2016 15:10:31
I'd take him in a second. He's been linked with clubs like Chelsea though. You'd probably be talking at the very least £3 million per year. I'd pay that, or whatever it took and simply cut the squad. Cole and Kazim Richards wages alone could have went towards getting us a top manager.

21 Apr 2016 16:04:39
I was just reading another site there and the guy running it had Bielsa and Sampaoli as options he'd love the board to go for, he also had Ian Holloway on his list - you couldn't make it up. Personally I'd go for Cesare Prandelli, Rudi Garcia or Jimmy Calderwood. I'd be delighted with any of the 3.

21 Apr 2016 16:09:47
both the chile and costa rica teams impressed me during the world cup either manager would be good for celtic rather than moyes keane and the rest of the dross doesn't excite me at all

21 Apr 2016 16:18:58
We will only get Jimmy Calderwood if it is promised to be a stepping stone to Sevco.
Everyone who wants to impress will come up with the name of some foreigner hardly ever heard tell of and who Celtic have no interest and they no interest in Celtic or Scottish league.

21 Apr 2016 18:26:22
Calderwood is a cheeky suggestion. Assumed he had retired. He left De Graafschap though after being buggered by the board. Can't see him getting past the meeting with PL!

21 Apr 2016 12:57:20
I understand the need for all to ventilate and obviously a new Manager is going to invite rumours and comments. Moyes is definately not the man for Celtic. His comments - waiting for the summer to make a decision - imply that he his hedging his bets. If a better option comes along so be it if not he will consider Celtic. We need a manager who feels priviledged to be offered the job and not someone who sees it as his last and only option. Keane is hot headed and gets too emotional. Also his managerial pedigree is lousy. So why consider him?
Giggs is untried and I am sure his heart is still at Man Utd.
Coyle has not been successful of late and Macky was slated for potential racist comments - is that what we want at Celtic?
Larrson is a great Celtic ambassador but is a managerial rookie - he will be Ronny 2 if he is the new manager.
Lennon has been and done it - not usually advisable to go down the same track again. In any event from his point of view what's changed since he left?
No - Celtic need to look for someone experienced, available and with a real desire to take the job and take on the challenge - Who? - make no mistake - only Lawell (with a bit of support from DD) will be making the decision and if that's the case don't excpect too much.

21 Apr 2016 13:22:25
good wee post that jesny bhoay.

21 Apr 2016 14:00:00
If Moyes is favourite as many people think, and he has been sounded out by officials at Celtic, surely they are going to tell him to keep everything on the down low as there is still a manager there trying to win the league. What better way than saying he is keeping his options open and will wait till the end of the season to make any decisions. He is never going to come out on the day Ronny has told us he's leaving and say oh yeah I want the job there has to be respect for the out going manager. He said Celtic were a special club with a massive fan base and who wouldn't be interested. I think Moyes would be very interested in the job was he not in Scotland a few weeks ago talking about what a great job it was and that it was a job that would always interest him.
I'm not sticking up for Moyes because I think we should make him our next manager i'm just saying even if he was desperate to be the next manager yesterday live on TV was not the time to announce it. If and when.

21 Apr 2016 15:11:50
Still think it will be an outsider.

21 Apr 2016 16:33:19
Jesner exactly why I didn't want R D to go right up to Sunday debacle . There is no point in replacing a manager, to bring in something similar . R D wasnt too bad until Sunday when his team were diabolically bad, as if they wanted to not perform.

21 Apr 2016 23:33:16
David Moyes on the Celtic Managers job.

21 Apr 2016 11:37:45
So that's it,the ending of the RD era,why oh why have Celtic allowed this to be announced before season end and the league in the bag,why was RD allowed to announce this,we have so many connections with Man City,could we not have looked at the Pelligrini effect. I hope that the players come off the Go Slow now and we can push on to the title.

21 Apr 2016 12:08:53
Well said Malika. I think everyone knew Ronny would most likely be going but it didn't need to be made official just yet.

21 Apr 2016 12:40:42
Apparently he told his family and friends in Norway TWO WEEKS ago, so he knew it would get out, he went into an important cupsemi final not bothered.
I hear people on hear say he is a "nice man" and "give him a good send off" sorry but in my eyes he sold my club down the river and made us a laughing stock in europe.
Sutton said yesterday if he had stayed he would have been the tribute act's biggest asset, Hartson said in Deila's 2 year reign he alone is responsible for the gap closing between us and the new club. I agree with these sentiments.
I will boo him on Sunday every chance I get for the shambles he has left behind.

21 Apr 2016 12:50:59
To be honest I think it's to do with season tickets for next year, the board will panic that people wouldn't buy unless they punted Ronny. However they will probably bring in someone like John Hughes after the season ticket allocation has been taken up.

21 Apr 2016 12:51:45
They've announced it because there was going to be hardly any fans in the stadium and those that were there were probably going to voice their displeasure

21 Apr 2016 12:56:55
Timalloy c'mon. "The gap"? They won promotion, of course RD will get the blame for that too before he goes. They beat us in a cup game, hard to stomach, but they've still got a way to go before they think about pushing for titles. What's important this summer, and every window after is what we do.

21 Apr 2016 13:16:20
I think it was announced so they can officially start looking for a replacement while RD is still there, they will want someone to start the day after RD walks out the door.
The board cannot make the mistake of waiting as the CL qualifiers won'#t be far off when the new man comes in.

21 Apr 2016 13:24:02
wee boo boo timbo eh.

21 Apr 2016 13:44:31
This is a classic case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. The clamor for his removal post Sunday was extreme (yet understandable) and had they waited, with no news, the very same people on here complaining about the timing would be complaining about inaction. The board is a joke, but the contrariness is painfully transparent.

As for the gap, I said directly after I got back from the game that emotions were high, and that we were shockingly poor, but a sensible head was needed. Rangers played fantastically well, the best they can in all honesty, we had one of our worst performances since Tony Mowbray, and yet it still took a wonder strike from them, and an open goal miss and dreadfully lucky freekick bounce for them to even get to penalties. There is still a gap, as Hibs proved last night. What the club, and players need, is a huge kick up the backside. A real injection of energy. Where that comes from? I'm not so sure in the short term.

Finally, booing him? Come on Tim, that's ridiculous. You used the word "apparently" before your charge sheet. I assume you have concrete proof of this? And even if he did discuss leaving two weeks ago, this is the guy you (and a lot of others) have been asking to leave for months. He simply can't win.

21 Apr 2016 14:04:22
Knowing PL it's most definitely season ticket sales. Feed a few mistakes to the press through the odd "leak" via the pr department to fuel the rumour mill and get people excited
Whoever the new manager is I won't be excited or debating much more until I see the newbie on the back page with a scarf above his head.

21 Apr 2016 15:39:51
He can't win. Without naming names there are people who have slagged him for playing his favourites, then slagged him for making changes.

We get beat, he gets slagged We win 8-1, it's becuase Scottish football is p*sh.

The nature of the job means RD gets the blame. And sone of it is his. But he has been desperately unfortunate. If it were plausible I would get rid of PL, JP and an enture team of XI before RD.

RE sunday, his system has been called a joke and clueless, yet it was that system which created 40 odd shots compared to their 12 (I think) . It was RD that missed an open net and didn't capitalise on two missed pens, or couldn't make simple 10 yard passes. Going further back I could talk about ifs and buts against Ross County, Allan, Gordon and Ambrose gifting EL results away, players admitting to not working for him. I really do feel as if it just wasn't meant to be. But people haven't given him a chance because he's no Neil Lennon or Henrik Larsson. 2 seasons in he's still getting called Ronnie Delia . Yet compared to previous managers stats he's sitting pretty. The treatment from his own has been abysmal.

God bless the next manager. And they better read the small print on the best fans in the world claim. If he doesn't get a team of LG, JF and Ambrose into the CL, he's lost half the support. If he celebrates a win with people who also enjoy a win he gets called a fanny. And somehow gets the blame for Aberdeen improving and Rangers gaining promotion? If PL and JP weren't enough to put people off. Sone people really make things worse.

21 Apr 2016 16:05:48
Should have censored it myself Ed sorry. Also should have been added:

He celebrates a win, get's called a "f*nny".

21 Apr 2016 16:13:02
Spot on Jim, absolutely spot on. Brilliant post.

21 Apr 2016 17:45:23
Ronnie, let us all praise him, praise him.

21 Apr 2016 19:32:51
Just been scrolling through - TPP and Jim Tim absolute greats posts. I completely agree with your sentiments.

21 Apr 2016 19:47:40
Cheers Island.

Aindoh, you are making a mockery of the point you're trying to make, just by making it. At least you've learned how to spell our managers name. Oh wait. Still, on the plus side, only a month and you don't have too.

23 Apr 2016 23:16:29
If any Celtic supporter is truly happy with Ronnies tenure in the post of mananger let him speak now or forever hold his peace, tpp?

21 Apr 2016 06:24:54
Hi eds what's the chances of henrik Larsson.

{Ed007's Note - Fag paper thin to none at all I think mate.}

21 Apr 2016 12:32:21
Mabry Larsson and lenny would be a good shout.

21 Apr 2016 12:52:13
Hope your right ed

21 Apr 2016 10:14:26
Still raging and embarrassed after Sunday and it will take a while to get over losing to Championship side, Sevco for the first time.
The warning signs have been there all season, where far too many players [midfield especially] fail miserably to do their jobs.
The over-dependence on Griffiths and the perseverance with unfit or off-form guys like Brown, Johansen, Lustig, Bitton and Gordon for so long highlighted the lack of quality and experienced cover in the squad.
There is also a few that are clearly unhappy at the club and have been 'rested' for long spells.

21 Apr 2016 12:44:00
Does it not highlight one of Ronnies biggest failings, his fear of giving younger or less experienced a chance and would rather play some who just happened to play well last year, sometimes it looked like you coldnt get a game unless your form had dipped.

21 Apr 2016 15:30:16
Aindoh the pressure from fans like yourself does not allow for giving youngsters a chance. They have to be allowed to play without fear but that doesn't happen at Celtic one mistake and a youngsters hoops career can be over with those faithful supporters baying for blood.

21 Apr 2016 09:14:35
Has anyone heard of JULEN LOPETEGUI the former Porto manager? He likes to play 433 and is out of a job atm, I know this sort of appointment would take brains in the boardroom (which we lack) but would anyone want him or be willing to give him a chance, it's just someone I came across on a site called transfermarkt you guys should check it out has all the info regarding football you could need. It's also very upto date.

21 Apr 2016 09:52:52
"But you don't have any dandruff! "

"That's because I use Head and Shoulders"!

21 Apr 2016 10:08:16
Here are his credentials. Hardly what you'd expect from a manager with some success under his belt!

In 2003, Lopetegui was one of Spain coach Juan Santisteban's assistants at the UEFA European Under-17 Championship. After the tournament, he had his first head coaching spell at Rayo, with the club in the second level, being sacked after the tenth match of the 2003–04 campaign, which ended in relegation to division three; after working as a sports commentator, including for laSexta in the 2006 FIFA World Cup, he returned to coaching, with a side he represented in the 1980s, Real Madrid Castilla, now in the third tier.

From 2010 to 2014 Lopetegui worked with the Spanish youth teams, winning the 2012 European Under-19 Championship and the 2013 Under-21 Championship. [12] He left the Royal Spanish Football Federation on 30 April 2014, following the expiration of his contract.

On 6 May 2014 Lopetegui returned to club duties, being appointed at Portugal's FC Porto. [14] He signed seven Spanish players to the club that summer.

In his first season at the Estádio do Dragão, with the club's biggest budget ever, Lopetegui led them to the quarter-finals of the UEFA Champions League, where they equalized the club's biggest defeat in European competitions (6–1 against AEK Athens FC) and suffered their biggest defeat in the competition (6–1 against FC Bayern Munich) . He failed to conquer any silverware, contributing to the biggest hiatus (two years) during Jorge Nuno Pinto da Costa's presidency.

On 8 January 2016, after a 1–3 home loss to C. S. Marítimo in the Taça da Liga, as Porto had already been eliminated from the Champions League and was ranked third in the domestic league after an away loss and a home draw, Lopetegui was relieved of his duties, being replaced by Rui Barros. One week later, the club announced that it had terminated the former's contract unilaterally.

21 Apr 2016 11:36:27
Thanks for the statistic bestybhoy as I said in the OP don't know much about him but thought he looked alright.

21 Apr 2016 09:00:00
John Hartson doesn't half talk some bollocks. Slated Deila from day 1 cause he replaced his mate Lennon as manager (any manager who replaced Lennon was going to be subjected to this) for not footballing reasons, but his own bitterness. Surprise, suprise "Mr Celtic" has now made known who he wants as manager, anyone guess?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on way things are run at club, but constantly being part of the media bandwagon to oust Deila is disgusting coming from an ex-celtic player for his own agenda. Yes, Deila wasnt success I thought he would be but at least he leaves knowing where he went wrong and likes of Hartsons vendetta are uncalled for.

Lets not forget "Mr Celtic" only signed for us cause he failed medical at previous tenants of Ibroke

If Hartson is that clued up about club, then he would of known that problems at club are down to mismanagement on PL behalf at board level. He is responsible for appointing managers, JP etc. Either that or he knows this and is championing himself for a future role at club.

Used to admire Hartson as a player, but its hard to respect someone who is a vindictive troublemaker.

21 Apr 2016 09:13:25
He's only giving his opinion, which he's entitled to do. A lot of people would agree with him even if you don't DN30. Big John gave a lot to our club and the reason he didn't sign for Celtic before Rangers went in for him is because we didn't make an approach so I think you're being a bit harsh on the guy. His criticism of Deila's tactics are wholly justified. Remember, he never criticised Ronny as a person: just his tactics and his ability to motivate our team. What exactly did he say that was so wrong.

21 Apr 2016 09:33:54
For once I agree with you DN! Don't know if you're on Facebook but I've had to remove myself from a number of Celtic pages because of the abuse for Ronny.

21 Apr 2016 09:56:28
Bestybhoy as in my post you will see I've already recognised everyone deserves their own opinion. What people don't deserve (Deila) is to be constantly lambasted by someone who is an ex-player all because that person replaced his mate (Lennon) . Your obviously not aware Hartson had it out for Deila before his first game in charge along with Sutton, so your argument of tactical critism has no basis.

21 Apr 2016 10:34:05
DN,. John Hartson said it as he saw it and he was proved right. A large percentage of the Celtic supporters agreed with him too. When Ronny was appointed the whole footballing world was scratching it's head and thinking it must be a joke. I imagine his comments before Deila's first game were out of concern for the club that he gave so much to and the club that gave so much to him especially when he had his cancer to deal with. I suspect it had very little to do with his 'mate' who, after all, decided to leave Celtic of his own accord. If you're talking about vindictiveness then maybe you should look at your own attitude towards Hartson.

21 Apr 2016 11:17:14
Bestybhoy how was he proved right? Explain. The truth of the matter is Deila had same constraints as Lennon in his first 2 seasons, yet got us some form of europe. Something Lennon did not, where was Hartson then? Wasnt an issue then suddenly is know.

Hartson doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. All you get from him is rant after rant and his obsession with Deila.

Dont use cancer as a sympathy vote to back up Hartsons argument. i'm sure even he would be disgusted at people doing that.

21 Apr 2016 11:45:20
Using cancer as a sympathy vote! You've excelled even yourself this time DN30!
He was proved right because Ronny's time at Celtic has been poor. He's a nice guy, no one would doubt that, but he just wasn't up to the job and that was obvious from even before day one. Just like Hartson said.
Anyway, I'm not getting involved in your tittle tattle any further and it's interesting to note that by your own admission you thought Ronny WOULD be a success! Are you perhaps more annoyed that Hartson was right and YOU were wrong! lol :-)

21 Apr 2016 12:17:25
Nobody is saying Ronnys time wasnt, but question you have avoided is where was Hartson after Lennons second season in charge? Not a peep even though Deilas record was better after same point.

You don't have an argument.

21 Apr 2016 13:17:22
Lennon's record after his second season was better because we were on an upward path, he inherited an awful team and got them going in the right direction. That's why fans were patient with him, they could see we were improving.
Ronny on the other hand took over a pretty successful team and has taken us backwards. You can blame Lawwell, Park etc. but the things Ronny could control like tactics and motivation he failed miserably at, even Warburton got the better of him. We were becoming a total embarrassment.
Celtic's players on Sunday were far superior to Sevco, the fact that Ronny couldn't organise them to beat a Championship team says everything about him in my view.
Struggling in Europe is one thing given our lack of finances, but there is no excuse for struggling domestically, we have a huge advantage in Scotland, we should be able to put out two teams that could win the league . I don't honestly believe Ronny has a leg to stand on, he is a nice man but at Celtic he is in over his head.

21 Apr 2016 14:02:33
Yeah - that's why fans were patient with him.

I was always a fan of JH, and CS for that matter, but they decided very early on in Ronny's tenure that they didn't like him, and then took great delight in telling us at every opportunity. I get that it's their opinion -- and they are entitled to it -- but let's remember it was a paid opinion.

As well as which, I lost a bit of respect for John after he pulled out of appearing on SSB on Tuesday. Not the pulling out in general (or that he was going to be on that show in the first place! ) but the fact he came out and said he knew he'd be getting a bit of stick re the game on Sunday and didn't want to have to put up with it. Poor show - take your medicine. That's how it works.

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21 Apr 2016 07:07:42
Seems to get the best out of rogic.