Celtic Banter Archive January 16 2021

16 Jan 2021 17:07:43
With the talk of null and void you'd think we would be pushing as hard as possible to close the gap to make a argument if a title was given, but we really seem to have bottled it, i've a feeling season will end early but they would of won mathematically already. Unbelievably terrible how our season has gone from players to decisions to how we are in the press, what is going on!
Ed is it right what i've been reading desmonds son will be the new ceo and he's much more into it and all things celtic? New direction etc please give me some good news literally everyday im reading about something wrong.

{Ed007's Note - There's plenty of rumours flying round about Ross Desmond and they have been for a couple of years now as the long term plan was always for him to take control over his dad's stake. I honestly have no idea if it's going to be CEO and that's what's going to matter if he does come in, what is going to be his role and how much power is he going to have?}

16 Jan 2021 22:01:35
i don't know if duffy is as bad as a lot of people say he is but the two back or wing back as they say now are absolute hopeless neither can they defend or create anything going forward ralston was not to bad for by big ajair he his the best right back we have got but then he can play anywhere big mistake to let gordon and hayes go.

16 Jan 2021 22:33:08
Hi all just had a phone all from my son in law who’s friend in Ireland has told him Ross Desmond will be taking over when Lawwell steps down and that Eddie Howe will be taking over on Thursday after Lennon’s last game on Wednesday and will be bringing his own team and John Kennedy will be involved in football operations (whatever that is) don’t know how accurate this is just passing on what I’ve been told fingers crossed stay safe everyone .

16 Jan 2021 23:02:33
oldkilly, there's a whatsapp message flying around all day saying that. I sent it to Ed007. To be honest I don't think there's any truth in it but you never know. HH.

16 Jan 2021 23:24:23
Sounds promising Oldkilly. 👍.

16 Jan 2021 23:51:34
When we were first linked with Eddie Howe I was a bit unsure about it to be honest, now that I've had time to think about it I think it would be a fantastic appointment. I really hope we can get him in, his record speaks for itself. Talking Bournemouth from League 2 to the premiership and keeping them there for 4 or 5 seasons is actually remarkable stuff, he has signed players for 100grand and sold for 5m he has signed players for 5m and sold for 10m and he has signed players for 20m and sold for 40m. So he obviously knows what he is doing when given the tools for the job, a young progressive manager with a decent eye for a player. What is not to like about that?
On the other hand it may all be pie in the sky and we have no chance whatsoever of getting him in.

16 Jan 2021 22:44:18
ED007 no need to spend money on jan transfers in my opinion safe what money we can not just a big named needed now its got to be the right name don't know the bookmakers odds but i don't see many names being linked which i don't like i hope for better days soon i would cling on to small glimpses of improvement very soon HH.

{Ed007's Note - There's no need to spend money on players in January if there isn't going to be any football to play, Rich.}

17 Jan 2021 01:47:32
Cheers ed surely something is going on in the background that we don't know about regardless of if lennon is going or not we have the best players available but not playing their best. Things just don't seem right, love the hoops but I'll be holding back money until i see some sort of change, believe me living in london and defending us can be hard at times!

{Ed007's Note - 👍

16 Jan 2021 19:00:01
I never honestly thought we would go back to the days of Macari, Mowbray and Brady.

16 Jan 2021 19:43:29
I don’t remember specifics under each manager you’ve named I’d need to think the old memory isn’t what it was and it was a while ago. But when you mentioned Macari I felt a sudden depression come over me for some reason. Plus he ducked in the wall at the free kick against Peru when Cublillas scored in the World Cup in Argentina 1978. Mowbray-my first thought was disaster and ‘we need to take it on the chin’ as he said after every defeat and how to dismantle a team comes to mind. Brady I actually remember most fondly out the three we played some great football under him but won nothing not to the same extent but similar to Tommy Burns. Strange-both took the managers job with red hair and left with grey hair.

Who was the manager when we were decanted to Hampden.? That to me is one of the all time lows. I remember the team getting read out at the game and thinking aw fur feck sake. Carl Muggleton and Wayne Biggins, Stuart Slater and who was the boy fae Aberdeen.

16 Jan 2021 19:49:40
I think that is giving those ex manager's an In justice I think it's a lot worse than that. Has the Kelly's taken back the rains?

16 Jan 2021 19:55:20
Really? C'mon Jon. Some of us have seen this coming a mile off. Some of us remember NL in charge first time round. The sh! te football. Struggling against better opponents. General standards being low. But most of all, some of us have been calling for some sort of decent infrastructure all the way, even longer. What we now have at the club is, and I don't like using this word, a cancer. We can either act now (won't happen) and get what we can, or wait for possible better opportunities in the summer. By then the cancer might have festered though. For me we need somebody in who at least until the end of the season can change the mentality of the group and hopefully of the club. But again, that won't happen under the current regime. Not for one minute is this Lennon's excuse, but even a manager has shackles. PL, take a step back or leave, you might be a fan but you're sh! te at the footballing side of things. Stick to the finances. Football men for footballing decisions. Money men for money decisions. Not that hard.

16 Jan 2021 19:58:42
*Wullie Falconer!

16 Jan 2021 20:46:50
JFP1888 Carl Muggleton was a superstar compared to Barkas lol.

16 Jan 2021 18:54:18
Celtic used 17 players at Hampden against Hearts because it went to extra time.
Ten of those players started against Hibs on Monday with young Harper being the exception.
Nine of those players started today with Ralston and Bitton who was an unused substitute at Hampden the only exceptions.
My point is Celtic still had enough in reserve to win our 2 home games.
But we don't have a game plan and the players haven't a clue what they're supposed to be doing.
I'm guessing those same players went to Dubai to work on systems and shape within the team.
Under this current management team, all the players have regressed to the point that we can only manage one shot on target at home to Livingston.

16 Jan 2021 19:02:46
Buzz great post mate.

16 Jan 2021 19:04:04
BB 👍.

16 Jan 2021 20:14:30
Before Lennon took over we could change the team even bringing in youngsters and they all knew their job because they were all coached properly and knew their roles, we can’t change 4-5 players these days without looking like a Sunday league team.

16 Jan 2021 20:20:16
Its been an absolute embarrassment. Lennon and co should of been sacked long before now.

16 Jan 2021 21:37:36
Good post Buzz, it seems that this season has been the 'perfecrt storm' for everything that could go wrong to go wrong at CP.

But that's only been the case because the structure in place at the club, from PL through NL through the players and all the sub plots that existed (inc C.V.) in between enabled this, like a row of human dominoes ready to fall, one onto another.

I'm still taken aback, as I think many are, not that it's happened, but by how quickly this has taken place.

Conversely it can be fixed and pretty quickly but that requires the correct individuals to be appointed and put in place and offcourse, supported accordingly.

It also means that several familiar faces from board level, coaching staff and players should be thanked and removed.

For me this is, and I've used the term on a few occasions, a 'watershed' season. We (the Club) should learn from this, rebuild and put a team on the pitch that not only the supporters but our ancestors would be proud of, and one that plays the Celtic Way.

16 Jan 2021 22:00:36
Well said. Peter has spoken 👍 Tu es Petrus!

16 Jan 2021 23:20:24
Thank you JFP, too kind.

16 Jan 2021 23:58:12
Thought they played quite well considering 👌.

17 Jan 2021 14:57:58
Spot on Pedro 71.

16 Jan 2021 17:40:47
Whilst it has been suggested that it's time for a change, at this stage in the season the Board believes that Neil and the management team are best placed to turn the teams performance around and lead us on to success. The Board continues to work closely with Neil and his team to support them to do so and progress will be renewed in the new year . That was the 7th of December. The review will be a laugh just like the team.

16 Jan 2021 18:01:25
Agree Pud but don't hold your breath for a 'review'

16 Jan 2021 17:31:05
Well no doubt when the squad get out of isolation they'll be queuing up to put transfer requests in. When can we send Duffy back, what a disaster!

16 Jan 2021 17:41:58
you can't single out one player in this fiasco. giving a manager free range in a shower says it all.

16 Jan 2021 18:32:29
Singling out Duffy is starting to get boring. It’s not worked out for the laddie. His old man took him to Celtic Park as a boy and dies suddenly aged 53 the year he signed for his boyhood heroes. Can you imagine how that felt running onto the park for his debut? He’s very well thought of as a person and is certainly not ‘our Joey Barton’ as was suggested on here. He’s been poor but you couldn’t fault him for heart and effort unlike Eddy and Ntcham amongst others. He will be feeling this seasons failures as much as us and many in his hometown of Derry and a damn sight more than some of his teammates. There are bigger problems at Celtic Park than Shane Duffy. We know it hasn’t worked out but change the broken record it’s starting to sound vindictive.

16 Jan 2021 19:00:18
Collapse has many reasons, some will n vet be public
Duffy team al indicative of what’s went wrong
Need to get back to a clean sheet and rebuild
Problem is those in power will stay
I can’t see bouncing back next season troubled times ahead.

16 Jan 2021 17:23:31
when it comes to chasing livinston after the ball then reality kicks in. at one time we had a B team that could take anyone on in the higher echelon of the spl.

16 Jan 2021 17:10:05
My god the end of this season isn't coming quick enough. What an absolute pile of horse 💩 that was again today. At this rate we'll finish 20 points or more behind that mob. For the love of god I've absolutely no idea why if these " big changes" are supposedly coming, why not start now? The season up until Christmas was a disaster in itself the due to the clubs own stupidity with Dubai things are getting worse if that was even possible. There's no way lennon can e here next season given the disaster of this season so why no start the changes now, tonight? Why wait any longer?

16 Jan 2021 17:32:32
Lennon still thinks the league isn’t over.

16 Jan 2021 18:03:16
I would love to be on what he is life would be a dream and my wife would be good looking.

16 Jan 2021 17:02:15
Strachan saying that Lennon and Kennedy picked the team and set up what more chances are they going to get? They have to go now get a new manager in now don't wait until the Season ends and before any one says what manager will come in at this stage of the season some people think we can get quality players in at this time of the season. As the season has ended for us as far as the league goes totally embarrassing season where it should have been one of our greatest.

16 Jan 2021 14:45:26
Another boo boo John park away to legia when he should came to us and passed Hammond on the way in.

16 Jan 2021 17:27:48
He wouldn't solve any problems under the current regime/ set up.

16 Jan 2021 13:51:44
Max Meyer has just been released by Crystal Palace.
A promising future beckoned not so long ago, German, 25yrs old - worth a punt?

16 Jan 2021 14:33:42
I'm sure they were paying him about £170k per week.

16 Jan 2021 14:39:18
Pretty sure he was on about 180k a week or something. If he would take a drop to 12k a week it's a deal!

16 Jan 2021 17:28:50
Can't get a game for Palace.

16 Jan 2021 18:33:27
That's our level unfortunately. Sinclair couldn't get a game down south and ripped our league up. No epl starter would come to us now. Lower championship/ league one is where you will find starters that would come to Scotland.

16 Jan 2021 12:32:50
After all the negativity on here recently just because we're 21 points behind them in the league in January after being put out the cup by Ross County and have blown the 10 after holidaying in Dubai amid a global C.V. not one poster has mentioned that the Club have struck a deal with Cadbury who have created 1,967 exclusive limited edition Celtic FC Cadbury 100g Dairy Milk bars priced £5 each.

And there was me thinking the club was out of touch with the fans.

16 Jan 2021 12:43:33
All that dairy goodness JFP with proceeds going towards PL's pension fund no doubt.

16 Jan 2021 12:50:37
Pedro proceeds go to the Celtic Foundation I believe. Great cause but horrendous timing.

16 Jan 2021 13:11:59
Indeed it is but the way this season and particularly the past couple of months have gone, nothing would suprise me.

16 Jan 2021 14:01:01
A sweet deal.

16 Jan 2021 15:27:38
if the proceeds are guying to the Celtic foundation then its never poor timing for such causes guys.

16 Jan 2021 18:06:19
Jfp is a glass n a half empty type 😂.

16 Jan 2021 12:00:04
Here is a mad thought play duffy up top

Hazard

Frimpong
Welsh
Bitton
Taylor

Soro
McGregor

Dembele
Turnbull
Robertson

Duffy never going to happen but safer Duffy loose ball up livy end lol.

16 Jan 2021 12:20:49
You said it Rich - Mad.

16 Jan 2021 12:38:11
Rich T your absolutely spot on it was a mad thought.

16 Jan 2021 07:07:17
After press conference yesterday i think that Robertson will come into the team

Hazard
Frimpong
Duffy
Bitton
Taylor

Soro
Robertson
McGregor
Turnbull

Rogic
Johnston

Like a 4-4-1-1 diamond remaining.

16 Jan 2021 09:25:33
rich t were are the goals coming from?

16 Jan 2021 09:53:41
Anywhere.

16 Jan 2021 10:09:09
Even with everyone out l still wouldn't play rogic and Johnstone. Maybe one but they have to be 2 of the weakest players physical l have even seen. Seen paper cups with more physicality than them. Especially Johnston.

16 Jan 2021 10:19:14
Both too lightweight against a big physical team like Livingston but options are limited with our strikers under house arrest.

16 Jan 2021 10:44:37
It’s a hard decision because Johnston, Rogic, Harper and Oko-Flex were all poor on Monday.
With the players Celtic have available it might be better to play a 4-1-4-1 formation and try and support Johnston up front.

16 Jan 2021 10:48:15
They’re more a footballing side now. I know Martindale quite well and he’s very tactically aware. Has a lot of good ideas on the game. He has the guy Robinson playing as a false9 type and doing really well.

I really hope it works out for Martindale. He’s a modern day thinking young Scots manager. Has a very intelligent football brain. We don’t have many of them up here.

16 Jan 2021 11:01:50
ter do you know the situation we are in? who would you play up top.

16 Jan 2021 11:21:47
Ryan I didn’t actually realise Gary Holt resigned in December I liked him.

16 Jan 2021 11:34:17
Wouldn't have rogic even if we are stretched. hate to say it but he looks finished.

16 Jan 2021 11:47:10
Bhoys, my question is;- what do you think Rogic has done to warrant a place in the squad nevermind the team?

* he's had more second chances than anyone
* spent more time injured in the 7 years he's been at CP than playing
* moves like a pensioner with a double hip replacement
* BTW, he's picking up around 20K a week for the privilege

I'd play the kids before him and many other 'senior players'.

Rant over - HH.

16 Jan 2021 11:47:49
We’ve had over a week to try and sign a couple of players to bolster our depleted team, we have less than a fortnight to sort this out and there are no signs of us doing so . 😉🔫.

16 Jan 2021 11:48:20
Mally he was an empty jersey against the Hibees.

16 Jan 2021 12:07:48
Of course Liam l understand the position we are in pal. I just don't think we can play with both of them. Rogic as a senior player was shocking in the last game. But to answer your question l would play oko flex and Johnson. I think we need 2 up front. We need Johnston to show up today.

16 Jan 2021 12:10:09
Rogic is not a guy u need in the trenches during these hard times.

16 Jan 2021 14:02:00
fairdos ter i just think our hands are tied just now there's no way he is going to leave logic out with the players we have available, i agree with you regarding oko flex looked the liveliest of the youngsters on monday for me.

15 Jan 2021 23:18:40
Scottish Football chief executive Ian Maxwell has written to all 10 Championship clubs to ask if they want to continue to play or suspend the season.
He also mentioned that one Championship club has already stated they want to suspend the season.

16 Jan 2021 08:33:29
The early signs according to journalist Stephen McGowan is that the Championship clubs want to continue to play out the remainder of the season.
Presently the Championship clubs should be forced to take a break from football because their players also don’t get tested, similar to the players in the 2 lower league divisions.
The Championship clubs still have part-time players playing in the league who have other full time jobs and are mixing with the public.
It clearly shouldn’t be allowed and that’s the reason for the break in the lower leagues.
What’s their excuse for getting preferential treatment from the Scottish Government and the Football Associations?

16 Jan 2021 11:03:26
Suspend? Does that mean a break or end? I suspect a break
Financial suicide to end season for these clubs
There is no gtee next season will be any different
This could easily be the new normal.