Celtic Banter Archive August 31 2020

31 Aug 2020 19:53:34
So NL is the villain again.
His biggest mistake was not playing klimala.
Is it his fault Griffiths is a bam.
Is it his fault eddy is injured.
Is it his fault we leave recruitment so long.
Is it his fault ajeti is no where near fit.
Is it his fault el hamed didn't clear the ball.
Is it his fault some players are not on form.
Come on guys. yes not all of us wanted him but let's get a balance on things.
Of course he's made mistakes.
But he can't be blamed for everything.
Someone name his replacement. A top manager who would be willing to come to Scotland and work under the leadership of PL.
There is no way he will or should be sacked at this stage of the season.
What would we gain from that.
We dropped points at killie. Full team eddy included and on the day he's was crap.
The players get all the praise when it's going good so they need to take a huge portion of the blame for when it goes wrong including our CL exit.
The difference is you can have a poll to see if
any of them get the sack.

31 Aug 2020 20:05:02
Jungle John, that's one of the best posts I've ever seen on here. Good on ya fella! HH!

31 Aug 2020 20:55:11
spot on mate. every body was all behind him when he blew them away last year. we lose a game and they all want him gone.

31 Aug 2020 21:07:16
Jungle john. It's the job of the manager to prepare the team for matches and send them out in the best frame of mind.
Looking at some of the performances this season you would think they would look a bit more motivated considering what's at stake and the history they could create.
I know the limitations we have and it's frustrating to be next door to a league where money is no object, but it's surely not a lot to ask that the players we have should go on to the park and give every last ounce for the cause.
We came a cropper last year when we played McGregor at left back against Cluj, We missed McGregor's influence in the midfield and it meant two positions were weakened instead of one. It was very costly.
A year on and he's made the same mistake again, with Edouard out he decided to play Christie up front thereby weakening two positions as Christie was taken out of his natural position.
In my view we would be better just replacing an injured or off form player with the next player in line who naturally plays in that position, at least you aren't weakening the rest of the team.
Lennon had a year to ponder that mistake against Cluj yet when faced with the same situation against Ferencvaros made exactly the same mistake again and instead of admitting his mistake threw the players under a bus.
That isn't good management in my opinion.

31 Aug 2020 21:08:12
Well Said JJ, I believe the majority of Celtic fans are behind him, and he will bring the 10. The keyboard warriors, social media savvies are playing into the hands of the biased media and giving them the reason for stirring up a frenzy which only damages the club.
We should all be behind the Manager now.
There’s a poll being run on this site now at the request of a contributor asking if he should be gone, there’s a lot of forethought gone into that, I’ve seen a few “ blue sites” telling its members to get on here and vote, no doubt HITC will be running an article on it tomorrow with some crazy banner headline.
Let’s stop this now and cheer our team on to the 10.COYBIG.

31 Aug 2020 21:10:03
I don't want Lenny to be sacked, but there is no point in trying to defend his god awfull team selections that started the last two games, and some people praised his use of substitutions at the weekend, when he brought on strikers after starting without any. And Lenny keeps digging himself a hole, by standing by his selections, he is not man enough to to admit he made a mistake. Why doesn't he start the next game without a goalie, and then bring one on at half time just to see if it will make a difference.

31 Aug 2020 21:17:37
We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.

31 Aug 2020 21:18:33
Fans panicking yep.
Fans want a poll on Lenny is everything his fault. Ye we are out of European league. We are heading into Europa knockout. Support the manager. Players want to leave I was thinking maybe the 10 in a row means nothing to the non Scottish lads. But they have got to look after themselfs it's a small window and a short carear most with zero prospect of ever being a manager or coach. Maybe we should keep investing in at least 80% of the best Scottish talent as they know what it means or is it just the fans media and the internet that winds us up like it's the end of the world if Celtic lose a game.
I know Lennon is not the favourite especially on this site. It's not the majority of Celtic fans opinion.
We have been destrying everyone for 9 years now maybe we should calm down a bit and enjoy what we have done probly never be done again.

31 Aug 2020 21:36:07
I never even wanted him to get the job and I still feel that way, he's tactically naive and plays players constantly that are out of form, signs players then doesn't play them
Fact is if lennon left Celtic I doubt if any other team would be battering his door down to manage them.

31 Aug 2020 21:36:29
Jungle john there are no shortage of candidates to replace Lennon should he go look no further than a lot of posters on this site who say who we should sign what the team should be and what system we should be playing problem solved.

31 Aug 2020 22:27:25
The Marco poll about Neil Lennon has had nearly 450 votes.
Our previous polls are usually only about 200 votes.
And the Sevco fans call us obsessed.

31 Aug 2020 22:45:35
Maybe the 250 extras are Sevco fans.

01 Sep 2020 07:27:43
Lennon is tactically unaware he sticks to the same formation time and time again even if it doesn't work. But he sticks with again and again and gets lucky more often than not. We need a top class manager who has a plan a, b, c. We played great football when we were playing a 3-5-2and destroying teams then back to the 4-2-3-1 and dross again then he changed it against WELL in the second half and we blew them away.

01 Sep 2020 07:31:56
while there are the usual groups who call for NL's head when they don't get what they expect. I also thing this 10 iar pressure is coming forward as well.
Some of us have been here before when we got 9 but could not get over that last hurdle.
We gloated when WE managed to stop that other mob get past 9.
Now, here WE are back at that final hurdle so I suspect there is a wee bit squeaky bum time with a lot of our supporters.

How many remember when we were sitting with 5 iar then 6 iar and we started to feel that we could really do the 10?
We will do it this time.

01 Sep 2020 07:45:43
gerry 2 positions were not weakened as ntcham filled in were Christie played and ntchams a cracking player. it all boils down to if Christie was better option up front to klimala. Christie stuck the ball in the net so we don't know if klimala would have did better.

01 Sep 2020 10:59:49
JJ

If Griffiths is a bam as you say. It didn't just happen. So its lennons fault he's still at the club and not moved on

Of course its not Lennon's fault Eddie isn't fit but its his fault we only have Eddie as a fit striker. He could have gave Kilmala more time. It was him that paid millions for him if he's not good enough that's on Lennon.

Give you time on recruitment as that is outwith his contol.

Ajeti not being fit why's he on bench that's on Lennon. If game had went to extra time would Ajeti been fit to play it. If yes why not play him first half. If no why put him on. That's all on Lennon

Elhamed had a nightmare at the goal these thinks happen. Lennon put him on the park so he's particularly to blame. Would Frimpong have got beat on a race for the ball.

Players not been on form. C'mon your joking here. He picks the players he sat and watched Wednesday unfold in front of him and did nothing to change it.

Roll on Saturday he went with the same formation because he believes he was correct on Wednesday (which is the most scary part) . We were dire in the first half at home against the bottom team in the SPL. Only started to look more effective with a Striker on IMO

Lennon will be our manager this season and i will support him but not going to happy clapp myself into not noticing the indefensible. Personally i would take Oneil for this season would galvanize the support and during that time would be looking to recruit better than Lennon. If you believe we can't get better fair enough.

Doing polls is pointless on players or managers because we can't control the outcome. Solving a poor player is easy he doesn't play. Who can control that THE MANAGER!

01 Sep 2020 15:17:41
I’ve seen a lot of the ding dongs on here the last week and a bit and I’m baffled I really am. Neil Lennon our manager has what is it now 5 leagues as a manager he is a very motivated fan of the club also and that shines through when he talks about us. I think a bit of the zip has been missing from the team maybe down to the no fans factor? As in all the games our possession shots on goal shots on target stats gave been very good.

Me personally feel he has picked strong enough teams to win all our games played so far and the picking if Christie Agead of Klimala was purely down to I believe about getting as many of his tried and tested winners on the park. In Europe it worked as Christie got the goal but down to missed chances and Elhamed not sticking it in row z we got papped out but I feel our manager did what he and his coaching team felt was best for that game.

I don’t really understand the reason for the wee poll about our manager as it will be corrupted by the you know who’s so take the figures with a pinch of salt? But what I do personally feel is that when the transfer window closes we will have better players and a winner if a manager to win the league and hopefully another two trebles and stuff our dominance down the throats if the sevvie fans and the sevvie sympathising press. HH Bhoys HWG10IAR 🍀🏆.

01 Sep 2020 17:10:22
Lenny can't man manage he can't read a game his tactics are useless end off.

31 Aug 2020 13:03:17
The boys that are slaghing off Duffy are prob the ones that didn't want mcginn who is doing really well in the so called best league in the world remember Duffy has played at the top level his whole career not against some of the dross up here . a new manager came in and changed things that happens and as ed pointed out we've signed plenty of players who weren't getting a game.

31 Aug 2020 13:17:57
Who's slagging him Mally? HH.

31 Aug 2020 13:30:32
mally I don't know much about him but a couple irish bhoys I know called him a bombscare.

As for who he has played against, that comment gets churned out everytime some one moves fae that league to ours.

31 Aug 2020 13:35:52
I've not seen any1 slag him . I've heard that there is a danger of thinking he is some kind of messiah . and I've heard they we 'fans " can are known to have a low tolerance

He'll be well backed Mally.

31 Aug 2020 14:05:19
Slag negative comments there's been plenty .
Kev av read comments from Brighton fans who don't want to lose him so either way it doesn't really matter it's opinions . all I know is what av seen I like him but then a liked mcginn.

31 Aug 2020 14:16:52
I think everyone will agree we need a different type of defender in, and if it’s Duffy I hope he does well obviously. i think some of the fan fair surrounding this guy is way over the top! I’ve read a few things online, and it’s like he’s the 2nd coming! He’s a big no nonsense centre back who if he moves to us will be joining the biggest club by far of his professional career! He’s not doing us a favour! He can’t get in the Brighton team and before that he played in the lower leagues! If we was Shane Duffy from Cardiff and not Derry, then the level of hysteria would be nowhere near what it is!

31 Aug 2020 14:40:50
his nationality has got nothing to do with it for me. i don't think any supporter thinks that by coming here he is doing us a favour. we have been going on about getting a CH if in for months now it looks like we will be bringing a good solid CH in and the negativity by some people is astounding .

31 Aug 2020 14:41:58
Mally he's played mostly championship level. were worried as this is now a critical position needing filled and if he's 4th choice and not wanted by Brighton cos he's pish then that's a worry . not writing him off as I can't really mind seeing anything of him and couldn't tell you what he's like . if ajer goes and he is hash then were in trouble.

31 Aug 2020 14:53:58
Duffy's nationality has nothing to do with fans wanting him. We need another CH after Siminovic departed. Him knowing the words to Joe McDonnell is just a added bonus 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪.

31 Aug 2020 15:03:42
He's a full international he's 3rd choice and the Brighton manager has just spoke very highly of him and understands why he's leaving . I Am not saying he's beckenbaurs or the 2nd coming pish he's exactly what we need and am willing to stand by my opinion.

31 Aug 2020 15:12:38
Dannyh14, exactly what I've been saying and when you suggest he is nothing more than a decent player (which is a fact, his career shows that) then you're accused of slating the guy.
For the record, and to make it very clear, I'm not saying anything negative about Duffy. I hope he is majestic for us. Could he be? Yes he could, but he could just as easily be at the same level as what we've got. I do think he'll bring a good set of balls and plenty of courage with him. Hopefully that's all he'll need. HH.

{Ed007's Note - Are you thinking of the same player, Besty? Duffy has played nearly 100 games in the Pub League over the last 3 years since helping Brighton win automatic promotion from the Championship - regarded as the hardest league in the world to gain promotion from. He's wanted by West Ham where Moyes knows him well from their time at Everton and West Brom so he's obviously proven to be of Pub League standards. He's 28 and is just coming into his prime defender-wise and he's choosing to come and play for us over staying in the so called Best League in the World.
To say he is nothing more than a decent player is pretty wide of the mark imo, he's exactly the type of player we need and the fact he's a Celtic supporter is just an added bonus and will help with the moral and general atmosphere around the squad.
If we do sign Duffy permanently I have no doubts in my mind that we'll have another contender for Brown's replacement as captain.}

31 Aug 2020 15:44:26
I wasn’t having a go at u specifically mally. just some of the stuff about Duffy is way way over the top! And I stand by my opinion that we wouldn’t making such a fuss, if he wasn’t Irish from Derry! But I really hope if he comes in he’s exactly what we’ve been looking for! What I’ve seen of him he’s big strong and takes no rubbish! Plus he looks a threat at set pieces.

31 Aug 2020 15:45:26
Bang on Ed. I think it is a quality signing and exactly what we need to help out a weak area in the team.

{Ed007's Note - Cheers, Markie 👍

31 Aug 2020 15:54:03
Thanks ed sanity at last feck me.

{Ed007's Note - 😁

31 Aug 2020 16:03:58
exactly ed. i don't think say morelos for example in the tunnel would look at duffy and say to himself am gong to bully you the day whereas unfortunately i think he would our other 2.

31 Aug 2020 16:09:40
what relation does duffy have with mcginn?

31 Aug 2020 17:37:23
@ Dk_96 their both good Tim's!

31 Aug 2020 17:46:39
Ed, I'm sure there was a game a while back where Duffy scored 2 own goals and got sent off. Ever since then it seems to get brought up when he's being talked about on social media and folk have an idea in their head that he's a calamitous defender. I've very rarely seen him play but the fact he has been given almost all of his caps by MON says to me that he must be pretty decent.

31 Aug 2020 18:06:48
Truth is troops we don't know if anyone is going to be a good signing until they play for us. We have bought players over the year's that on paper were going to be sensational that flopped. We have bought players that we have never heard off and now are club legends. Time will tell HH.

31 Aug 2020 18:25:03
I haven't seen him play, but by the sound of it, he is a big, no nonsense centre back, as long as he is a big no nonsense centre back with a good turn of pace, he will do alright, . but I will wait till I see him play.

31 Aug 2020 19:23:47
@Dannyh14 what utter nonsense! Doesn't matter what nationality Duffy is, its totally irrelevant!

The fans are excited because he is a highly experienced EPL player that is going to make a difference to our defence, not because he is Irish!

Once again you've made an absolute fool of yourself.

{Ed007's Note - Fans - myself included - enjoy seeing foreigners who come in and really buy into "The Celtic Way" and you can see what it means to them to play for Celtic and they continue to be seen as Celtic men, Annoni, Sutton, Hartson & Larsson, Petrov etc etc. Duffy being Irish is irrelevant but him being a lifelong Celtic supporter is a big plus for me but the single most important facts are that he is a proven Pub League standard player who wants to play for us and who is exactly the type of player we need & we know will go that extra mile for the team and the Club. Plus he will go straight into the team, he won't need 6 months to get fit or settle into the country and get used to the Scottish game.
People moan that we are always buying projects or buying foreigners with one eye on their next move or overaged duds like Compper but here we have a proven PL player coming into his peak years who is willing to come up and help us win The 10 and possibly more - to suggest that he's only here and that fans are so keen because he is Irish is ludicrous.
Would they be more excited and welcoming if his name was Shano Eldufio who had played for some low level German or French team?}

31 Aug 2020 20:24:47
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 there’s the moron that is Phil Tim! U saying anyone is making a fool of themselves is the funniest thing I’ve heard all year! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ Duffy being from Derry and being an Ireland international has absolutely nothing to do with people wetting their knickers over a years loan deal for a defender who can’t get a game for Brighton! Aye nae bother! So if he was Shane Duffy born and bred in Norwich for talking sake, who couldn’t get in a team struggling for survival in the land of milk and honey there would be the same reaction? Utter pish! Mind come back with an answer Phil and don’t do your usual, hiding when someone calls u out for the clown u are!

01 Sep 2020 15:14:07
He's just a no nonsense defender which will add a bit of steel to our fragile weak defence.

31 Aug 2020 10:34:48

Marco1888 has asked for a poll about Neil Lennon's future. Do you want him to stay on or go. You can vote HERE.

31 Aug 2020 12:13:45
The 50 50 split will do NLs mental health the power of good, of course he doesn't do social media

I think he needs the benefit of the doubt at the moment . for what it's worth but the jury is certainly back out

If I was asked whether NL is right for the medium to long term, it would be an emphatic NO but that wasnt an option.

31 Aug 2020 13:15:03
I voted for him to stay on because I do not want to upset the apple cart in such and important season.

However, I am starting to run out of patience due to his decisions to play people out of position when there are options there for him not to do so.

31 Aug 2020 13:51:58
Maybe he is over compensating, perhaps trying to be " too clever "

A 1 off 90 minute match at hone against Ferencvaros should have been a case of . gloves off . quick start. high tempo . suffocate them . a half fit but mobile striker, if anything, would have occupied their back 3 . a back 3!

Spilled milk . hindsight.

Lennon and others would be well advised to read up on

Brilliant basics

Ed, I noticed arsenal recently snaffled a SET PIECE COACH and it was considered news worthy. Arsenal were poor at defending set pieces and poor in terms of exploiting set piece opportunities at the other end too.

We are a full time, professional club!

We want to see week to week improvement.

If our measure of progress was to monitor set piece delivery and overarching impacts, we'd give the team a very very low mark.

Does that mean they don't think there is a problem or does the incompetency and malaise run deeper.

When NL rabbits on about possession and cornere and attempts at goal he must think that these baseline stats equate to a " get out of jail free card" or validation.

How gullable!

I know a manager that doesn't even look at possession and passes complete stats anymore, or for that matter area covered.

They are more interested in ( in advised)

Completed forward passes only amongst other more " game influencing" stats

Possession and yards covered and passes complete ade futile KPIs in a game that involves putting the ball in the net more often than the opposition.

31 Aug 2020 14:07:00
Feck you need to get out more lubo 😅.

31 Aug 2020 14:41:06
Mally exactly re Lubomir.

31 Aug 2020 14:44:14
we should have 3 set piece coaches lennon, kennedy, strachan.

31 Aug 2020 17:18:54
Molly I'm a park ranger. too much time and fresh air . railings to paint bit I've done the risk analysis and don't fancy it . so you get this!

31 Aug 2020 18:54:45
I think we are very short of first team coaches etc. We usually have only 2 or 3 in the dug out . Last Wednesday night the Hungarians the 7 or 8;.
One’d our men in the dug out is Strachan and he spends the whole match taking notes as staticistan and so he cannot encourage the players.

31 Aug 2020 19:13:46
I wasn't enamored by the NL appointment but at the same time I supported him because of the 9 and now 10, would have preferred someone else to be honest.
Now I am of the opinion we need someone else to come in and deliver the 10 someone more professional, I'm not sure he can do it this year things seem to be going tits up 👎.

31 Aug 2020 08:08:22
Looks like we've got Duffy for a year . Thank the Lord a proper cb that actually enjoys defending with a huge heart and will marshall our backline. goid bit of business let's hope there's a option to buy. and a lb would come in handy as well.

31 Aug 2020 08:23:15
Has it been confirmed yet or is it still paper talk.

31 Aug 2020 08:23:53
Personally think Ajer is on his way out. Is Duffy a better option than Ajer. Not seen much of Duffy?

31 Aug 2020 08:31:41
Some fans have built up this 4th choice Brighton defender into the Messiah. For his sake I hope he doesn't make a mistake in his first game or he'll get destroyed on here.
I can see it already, "He's a donkey", "Thank God he's only here on loan", "Lennon Out" etc. etc. HH.

31 Aug 2020 09:15:38
Assuming it is definite, with what we have now i would go with. Barkas, Julie, Duffy, Ajer, frimpong, calmac, christie, nchamp, forest with Eddie and Ajeti up top.

31 Aug 2020 09:21:58
bestybhoy he will defend its as simple as that he's dropped out the brighton side because graham potter likes to play it out from the back which is a dream for the opposition down there if you watched there games. god knows how many times they got done by it. that's not duffs game i said when we were originally linked fans shouldn't expect him to be strolling out with the ball or spraying 50 yard cross field passes but what he will do is not get bullied win close to all his ariel challenges and get his tackles in. id say he's close to an old fashioned CH as there is and what most supporters think we need mate.

31 Aug 2020 09:38:24
Is this the same guy that scored 2 own goals and got sent off in the same game? Refs up here will love him.

31 Aug 2020 10:02:30
liamlennon, if he was as effective a defender as you seem to think he is then he'd still play an important part where he is. Time will tell with him. I hope he does fantastically well, I'm not saying he's rubbish, my point is that anything less than outstanding and brilliant in every game and he's in for pelters from some people. HH.

{Ed007's Note - Do/did the likes of Fraser Forster, Chris Sutton, Scott Sinclair, Henrik Larsson and many more of our players fall into the category of if they were any good they'd still have played an important part where they were, Besty?}

31 Aug 2020 10:25:39
Ajer is a better footballer than Duffy but not as hard, if Ajer goes we need 2 centre backs and we need a quality left back, personally I’d play Frimpong as a right winger and sign a right back, we missed out on Stephen O’Donnell and could have got Ricardo Rodriguez for just €3m before he signed for Torino Both would have done us a good turn, and another goalkeeper wouldn’t hurt either .

31 Aug 2020 10:32:21
Good post Liam. it's exactly what I've been saying . we are way too soft at the back and from what I've seen of him and it's a fair amount he's a big hard no nonsense defender who won't jump out the way of shots like ajer did on Wed. he's also great attacking the ball at cornered a real goal threat and at 28 jyst hot to h his peak. Hope this gets done.

31 Aug 2020 10:49:42
besty by the sounds of it you will be the first to give him pelters. that's not really the football works is it if you don't start every week then your not worth more or a better player than ones starting. ntcham for us for example when he doesn't start.

31 Aug 2020 10:55:42
Toughness is needed lads it will help Julien and ajer. But in saying that they did great at weekend. Maybe Lenny have them the kicking they need we bit of psychological games going in.
So ajer elhamed Julien Duffy defence if it not paper talk. . I also noticed ajer started to attack and go forward again. As he stopped doing that. Wonder why was he being a baby. Frimpong and Forrest at the sides.

31 Aug 2020 11:05:14
i loved ajers reaction for ajetis goal pure emotion.

31 Aug 2020 11:09:10
I hope Duffy settles in and does a good job; however, I really like Ajer and although he has defensive frailties - he is some player.
IMO he's not in his best position and why he was 'moulded' into a defender, when he can't handle big bruisers or is not particularly strong in the air is up to more knowledgeable people than me; but if he was in our midfield 'pool' with Cal-Mac, Turnbull, Christie, Ntcham or Brown etc; we would have plenty of options and variety.

31 Aug 2020 11:14:52
That guy from Italy sounds like he would be a better buy,

31 Aug 2020 11:15:24
Weeks to late if u ask me! He should have been brought in way before Wednesday to bed in! But typical Celtic, act after we get papped out! If true I hope big Duffy comes in and adds some steel to the back line! Just feels hard to get excited about it right now, after the shambles mideeek!

31 Aug 2020 12:20:02
Duffy will be class alongside Ajer and Jullien and hopefully we get two strikers on the pitch too.

31 Aug 2020 12:52:12
Settle down guys and stop over reacting to a simple comment. I said I hope he does fantastically well if he comes in. I'm simply pointing out that he's not considered to be in the top 3 at Brighton so he isn't the world beater some are hailing him to be. He does have some good qualities but he's no messiah. He'll have my total support and I won't give him pelters, that's for sure, but it'll be interesting to see who does if he ever has a bad game. HH.

31 Aug 2020 13:14:20
Like your post celtic mad put ajer in mid hh.

31 Aug 2020 13:19:08
I think it could be a great mix. Duffy the no nonsense defender in the middle and Julliane and Ajer the two ball playing center halfs either side.

31 Aug 2020 14:50:53
bestybhoy I'm very settled mate. whos hailing him as the messiah by the way?

31 Aug 2020 16:45:21
Exactly my thoughts Markie 👌.

31 Aug 2020 19:10:45
That means playing ajer on left preference him in mid or right hh.