Celtic Banter Archive February 10 2020

10 Feb 2020 23:56:49
So if we could only sign one of our Southampton loanees permanently. Who would you pick.

Forster or Elyounoussi?

11 Feb 2020 04:53:01
Forster for me ice man!

11 Feb 2020 06:55:34
Forster.

11 Feb 2020 07:31:26
Forster for me.

11 Feb 2020 08:37:24
Big Fraser all day long.

11 Feb 2020 08:54:24
It's a real hard one to answer iceman but I would take Forster as he solidifies the team. I Loved him the first time he was here and his showings in the European games have been immense. whos your pick?

11 Feb 2020 09:28:39
Elyounoussi Forster is a good shot stopper but for a big guy he doesn't command his area well imo although if he did we would have no chance of keeping him.

11 Feb 2020 09:39:11
I posted yesterday about my concerns if we had to go back to Bain as Forster has shown (especially in big games) that he is a class act.
Ellyounnoussi is a class act as well, but we still managed to play very well and score plenty of goals while he was out.
If we pushed the boat-out and got both and signed a centre-half, in the summer, I would be absolutely delighted.
However, there's always the chance The Board would sell a top player to subsidize such a project?

11 Feb 2020 09:52:05
I’m going Forster. A top class keeper in my mind. No doubt Elyounoussi is a class act but I feel we could cover that position easier. Realistically I don’t think we can buy them both due to the transfer fees involved.

11 Feb 2020 13:43:48
Elyounoussi for me on his game he’s a class act and think it’s easier to buy a half decent keeper who while not quite Forster would be good enough if we can score more than the opposing team and Elouyassi can play a part in achieving that. Would love to sign Forster too but don’t think he’s the best I’ve seen at Celtic Park I think Boruc was better at his peak. What a back 5.Boruc, McGrain, Elliot, Van Dyke and KT are the best I’ve seen.

{Ed007's Note - I'd have Tam Boyd in there before KT.}

11 Feb 2020 14:07:56
Elyounoussi all day long.

11 Feb 2020 14:43:50
Selection based purely on ability Ed but KT nowhere near played long enough for us to be remembered with the Tam Boyd’s or Jackie McNamara’s of the past.

{Ed007's Note - Nah not for me mate. I like my defenders to defenders to defend first and Boyd was a better defender than KT was - maybe not in the future as hopefully KT goes on to prove himself and realise his full potential but for his time at Celtic I'd go for Boyd.}

11 Feb 2020 14:47:28
Boruc took advantage of the Celtic support and ended up totally out of shape. No other Celtic keeper would have escaped criticism for making as many howlers as Boruc did. Forster is the best keeper by a long way I have seen playing for Celtic because I wasn’t a big Bonner fan either. Jackie McNamara is the best right back I have witnessed playing for Celtic because when I watched Danny McGrain in the 80s he was past his best.

11 Feb 2020 17:11:10
Elliot was amazing best defender I have seen and that's me going back to the time of the Lisbon lions just.

11 Feb 2020 19:22:31
Agree tony2bhoy - Elliot was a great asset - how much would he be worth now?
I would take Forster out of those two as Moi has more cover in his position of a certain quality at the moment.

11 Feb 2020 22:03:52
I'd like us to try to get Elyannousi in as he's relatively young and I can't see us finding a winger with that ability and hunger easily. I'd go in for Forster too--but would be happy with another year's loan tbh, and that might be a good compromise for all concerned. We used to have some of the best goalie coaching and scouting in the game. Forster is the rock, but where are our prospects here? I'd also be happy to see which of them earns it in our european campaigning. HH.

10 Feb 2020 19:14:35
Question on progression for our fringe/ academy players.

I've seen on here the likes of Johnson getting stick for being too weak for the big games, which to be fair he can be at times, however my question is should we start loaning our younger players out earlier to see if they can develop and adapt to the physicality of the Scottish game quicker in order to progress in the first 11 at an earlier age?

Dembele is a prime example, I see why we would want to protect him, but I fear for many of our prospects that they will turn out to be like Phil foden, bags of potential but never get a real chance, and that shouldn't be the case as our prospects should be good enough to get a full season of football in the SPL at a lower league positioned team, and the vital minutes would surely help us going forward.

The development league isn't challenging enough for them and they don't get the experience required.

January was good for some youngsters going out on loan, but do you think we should be sending them out earlier? Some lads play development football and then get released without even showcasing there ability.

Many players aren't the best in training but shine in a match, and I think we have lost talent and may lose more in the future unless we get them sent out earlier.

10 Feb 2020 19:45:55
We have a fantastic group of young potential stars and they all can't be expected to hang around indefinitely biding their time - especially at a huge club that obviously buys plenty of players.
A footballers career is short enough and unless you have outrageous talent like Forrest, KT, Frimpong or even Eddy etc; In my opinion, they should be loaned out and monitored closely as part of their development, just like we did with Cal-Mac and Ajer.
I know it doesn't work all the time and the jury is still out on players like Ralston and Henderson for example, but it does help their career one way or another and there are several that could benefit from that experience and a realistic match-day routine.

{Ed007's Note - What do you think of the idea of us entering a B team into the lower leagues similar to what Spanish clubs do, OAB?}

10 Feb 2020 20:02:05
It done wonders for both Ajer and Christie. I'm surprised we don't do it more. Bayo and Shved could be doing with it.

10 Feb 2020 20:06:45
Well that is better than playing in a development league, however why not have a feeder team in the lower tier?

10 Feb 2020 20:40:57
I would love that Ed; as you know I'm an 'old timer' and that idea was banded about some time ago, where 'Celtic Colts' (and others) would enter the lower divisions but would not be eligible for cup tournaments, or promotion to the top league. I don't know why it was shot down in flames as it would help develop players, stop us losing potential talent and even boost attendances of smaller clubs = cash?

{Ed007's Note - It's a no brainer for me too mate. The only down point for me is that if we won the Championship - or any lower league for that matter - and were not allowed to be promoted it would take the gloss off the promoted team and devalue the competition in a way.}

10 Feb 2020 20:41:33
Limits to the number of loanees would be an issue. You'd think having a second set of premiership teams would be good for Scottish football but didn't clubs vote heavily against it recently?

10 Feb 2020 22:24:39
A Celtic Colt team would be ideal for developing the young players allow the team to go no higher than 1st division but wasn't this proposed and voted down?

10 Feb 2020 22:13:01
It's horses for courses. Some players are ready for first team action. Some still need coaching. And I'd like to think we have better coaching/ facilities than the teams they would be going on loan to anyway. Christie and Ajer had already played first team football. A Jong team is the perfect solution for me - getting coached off our staff and mixing with the first team whilst playing competetive football against men.

10 Feb 2020 17:15:43
Ed an earlier post mentioned the infamous hotel project. I may and probably will get shot down for this but other than overnight match day extravaganza's I don't see it getting used much.

I could be wrong and I've no doubt they have plans for it's use other than match day's but personally I just don't see it working and what do they do with it if it doesn't meet expectations.

{Ed007's Note - It's not just a hotel project but the hotel will be across the road from the Emirates Arena and will be ideally positioned for event organisers, participants and supporters for a start and it will also help the Club to attract more events like when we had the Commonwealth games and rugby at Celtic Park. There's a lot more goes on in Glasgow than football.
Like Fergus McCann insisting on a bigger capacity than Ibrox - and being told it was a mistake and we'd never fill it or sell enough season tickets - investing in projects like the hotel/musuem complex will ensure revenue streams for years to come.}

10 Feb 2020 20:14:43
Cheer's. I just wasn't thinking seriously about it
all along and to be honest never had as it just has, for me, a strange and odd feeling. Although did stay at the Beatles hotel in liverpool and that was okay.

{Ed007's Note - Do you think our board would invest in something if there was a chance it was going to fail? The Unseen Fenian Hand and GCC's long term plans to regenerate the East End will make sure it's a a success.}

10 Feb 2020 21:19:15
Sod my inane post Ed certain things put things in perspective. Get well soon Jackie is all I can say.

{Ed007's Note - 🙏 If you (plural posters or yous for the neds lol) do pray then say one for Jackie and even if you don't why not fire one out for him tonight - God will still be listening to you.}

10 Feb 2020 16:19:12
Ed, I pressed the big button and I got no reply. I hope in future my posts go up faster.

{Ed007's Note - The big button has nothing to with me, it says:

"If you have a question for Ed1, press the big button, but it is answered in a podcast in about 8 weeks time."}

10 Feb 2020 17:05:03
That's a good answer Ed. Fair enough and Hail Hail.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

10 Feb 2020 15:09:58
Celtic have already surpassed the 121 total goals from last season. After the Clyde game on 9th February we have now scored 122 goals and Celtic still have potentially 25 games still to play if we reach the Scottish and Europa league finals.

09 Feb 2020 22:22:51
Ed a couple of guys I know who follow the youth team say there's a cracking young striker by the name Kieron McGrath. Do you know anything about this kid?

{Ed007's Note - Is that the lad that's on loan to East Kilbride? I don't know much about him except that he was really highly thought of and sought after with a few clubs in England after him when we signed him but he then picked up a bad injury that set him back and kept him out for a long time. His contract is up at the end of the season so I guess we'll see then if he has got back to the levels required.}

10 Feb 2020 11:50:06
The bhoys just back from a serious injury but has scored in I think the last 3 games seems we have very high hopes for him.

10 Feb 2020 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 10th February 2020