Celtic Banter Archive August 25 2016

25 Aug 2016 23:31:47
Back in CL football, cannot wait. That is one motherf***er of a group, but exciting times ahead. CL back at Paradise and we deserve to be there! We have spent money, operated at a loss over the past couple of years and one more signing to come. That's our lot and we go with it. It may be painful away from home, but we may get 3 or 4 points at home, we have to believe. One thing's for sure, I fear not of the Sevco! They can slag us off all they wish, there will be disarray when it suddenly becomes apparent they will not make top 3, just wait for it!

Happy days, back at the top table! HH.

26 Aug 2016 07:30:09
Just back in the CL with a group of great games and yet you still have to mention rangers some of your fans keep saying you don't care about rangers etc new club blah blah why go on about us obsession?

26 Aug 2016 08:14:57
And yet here you are on a CELTIC forum. Of course we care about you. That's the nature of a rivalry. Winding you up and rubbing your noses in the steaming pile of failure that continually drips out the arse of your club is just part of it.

26 Aug 2016 09:15:18
Correct nature of the rivalry so why the constant there is no rangers who are rangers rangers died sevco this sevco that think you just answered the question my friend have a good day.

26 Aug 2016 10:03:28
It really doesn't matter if Rangers are new or old. As far as I'm concerned it's currently still a team from Govan who play in blue at the delapidated Ibrox stadium. It's simply enjoyable to call you sevco etc. It's like picking a scab. Apologies if it scars you. Now off you pop and buy yourself some commas and full stops so those who went to school can understand what you're saying.

25 Aug 2016 23:14:15
Gordon

Tierney lustig toure (3-5 mil) new right back

Roberts forrest brown rogic Sinclair

Griffiths

BENCH Dembele izzy schevenko o Connel
Siminovic (when fit) Bitton mcgregor

Not the worse. Definitely need new right back. Bench is short, but starting 11 would suffice. Need a new right back. Jenko has been poison, looks like he could be decent but we cannot afford for him to be learning in our big matches. Switch lustig out and put schevenko in at cb. But how long would lustig last.? Lustig has to cb if can't last at rb.

26 Aug 2016 10:18:57
Any starting team with Forrest in it needs looked at. Once players are fit, he will be an impact sub from the bench, and even then I hope sparingly.

I personally don't see Toure playing every game this season once others are fit, but will be interesting to see BRs ideas at centre half.

Don't see the days of a 5m quid right back anytime soon, but you can but dream.

A bench with 4 defenders in it is horribly unbalanced.

Also, all this hate for Janko is outrageous. And people wonder why young players don't get brought through trams. Yes he had an awful game in our biggest game of the year, but who didn't? And who was the player in front of him that should have been supporting him, but instead spent the game running about with his arms out like a headless chicken?

25 Aug 2016 22:14:18
If its just 1 then our tea is well out even before we start we can forget it already we need at least 4 good player with that draw tonight. Where is all the Money Going?

25 Aug 2016 23:05:46
Lauchlan calm yir juice, even if we signed 4 £5 Million players we might just get 3rd place. The squad have got us there and deserve the chance to participate in this great competition so just enjoy the build up and enjoy the atmosphere that we fans are going to generate on these special nights. Can't wait, Hail Hail.

25 Aug 2016 23:19:12
Ach well 1 signing or 5 we have some cracking games coming up and the players should at least raise their standards. That said, just watched the new TV doc about Scotland's game and the bunnet summed it up. you don't pay 10 million for a 5 million player. We can't compete financially with the big guns but we have the nucleus of a decent team and have shown in the past we can punch above our weight so who knows on the day.
I am concerned about our defence and CG can be brilliant one minute and a disaster when it counts.
I suppose, realistically, we should be looking at 3rd place to ensure Euro games but this has been the year of surprises and the underdog so. Hail, Hail.

25 Aug 2016 21:43:57
Just read lawwell's interview after the champions league draw and if it's true it's looking like one more signing right enough. Was personally hoping it would be at least 2. Just need to wait and see eh.

25 Aug 2016 21:35:27
Evening everyone not posted for a while something wrong with my phone or something had to change name (thefalkirkbhoy) and reregister ed? Anyway was talking to a friend off mines who nevr misses a game home or away and he is delighted with draw obv says the same as a lot off folks abt playing Barcelona again . i would love to play real madrid aswell but hey we cany choise who we get and we should embrace it all because although wd all think we should be there we never know the next time we WILL be there . let's get in about aberdeen on saturday and let the rest take care off itself.

25 Aug 2016 21:24:35
See me Mr Lawell has came out and stated we are only looking at the one player in before transfer deadline day. Question is where and who? given the opposition we've neen paired against they better be a world beater. Plenty smoke being blown as well but found it interesting that he advised us all that Mr Rogers and himself had discussed areas to improve and, i'm guessing what we have brought in plus our little mystery buy is going to get us competitive.

25 Aug 2016 21:56:53
Better be a brilliant right back.

25 Aug 2016 21:59:38
Has to be a centre mid. Once again in a big game our midfield went missing on Tuesday.

25 Aug 2016 21:16:26
See lawell has said we're wanting just one more signing! To me this ain't good enough! A RB a CDM are essential! And we're really light up front! Not happy with this if I'm being honest! But i am in no way surprised! Same old celtic! Penny pinching as per usual!

25 Aug 2016 22:01:10
Cant be accused of that this summer. Must be about 10mil spent on transfer fees, agent fees and wages this summer already.

25 Aug 2016 22:23:43
The huge cash injection courtesy of the CL has never really filtered through to transfer budget and the board/ major shareholders take a fair cut, while playing staff will be paid bonuses.
The manager will be given loose change for a bargain and a loanee,

26 Aug 2016 10:56:02
Beav, Mr Lawwell's probably looked at the group and decided it's highly unlikely that Celtic will progress in Europe beyond December hence it'll be too much of a financial gamble to spend money. I reckon players will go to finance any move.

25 Aug 2016 20:10:50
Guys I think we should just try and enjoy being back in the big league this year if we get third in the group huge bonus but enjoy it this year and build on it for next season hail hail bhoys can't wait for the home games first time I'll be able to take the kids to see Barcelona celtic in a European night so I'm buzzing were even in it.

25 Aug 2016 20:42:15
Well said. It's not about taking part, it's were we belong. It will be a great night, each night regardless of outcome. Every team is beatable regardless.

25 Aug 2016 19:47:14
This is the ideal draw. Why play second best when you can play the best in Europe. Great nights ahead. This will bring players to us in the future if we can regularly get into the group and if we're spared (as my old mum would say! ) get into the last 16 on occasion. All the best guys ☺.

25 Aug 2016 20:16:59
Spot on yir auld mum! 🍀.

25 Aug 2016 20:34:19
Yes, great draw and leaves it open for us to get Real Madrid in the final.
Seriously though, it is a great draw for the fans and the club will make a wee profit as well. I just hope that we do something about our defence before we start the campaign or its night night Europe.

25 Aug 2016 19:33:21
What a draw for us if brendan can bring in a couple of class players to help out the young lads I think we will give this group the fright of their lives.
At celtic park we have a great chance of getting points on the board which can only enhance confidence
Bring them on let's show Europe how a team can play with no so called superstars.
No more doom and gloom always look forward and upwards
In brendan we trust.

25 Aug 2016 19:57:53
I think we need more than a couple of class players to frighten this group. They have teams of them. Upsets can happen, but they would be just that. I'm not sure how much I'm looking forward to these ties right now. There's a lot of gelling and improving to be done before I can say with any degree of certainty that we might get a point in these ties. I know that sounds very negative, but there you go.

25 Aug 2016 20:20:12
Spot on Joe. Its 11 v 11 in the final analysis and the Celtic jersey shrinks to fit no man! Right in about them 🍀.

25 Aug 2016 18:59:39
long time lurker

just had to join to say wtf to some of the rumours recently - skinny - you know I mean you.

what a nightmare draw - worst possible, I would have fancied our chances in any other group, except 1.

forget signing anyone else I say - reserve that cash till Christmas window or tying people up on frees like kolo for next season.

also against Barcelona and MC play the reserves and keep our stars in peak condition for the big league games and the BMG games - hopefully take 3 points at home and 1 away (yes I know against a team who score 9 qualifying. )

That is our only chance of going further and winning the league, getting to CL next year and another 30m

Surely even the most delusional celtic fan can't think we can compete this year.

25 Aug 2016 19:32:54
Digi what a negative post won thing av learnt it never write off the hoops no matter who the opponent bet u says that same thing when wee drew benfica Barcelona and spartak brighten up mate c'mon back the bhoys.

25 Aug 2016 19:36:09
Utter nonsense! Nobody is expecting us to win the CL but they do expect us to compete. Try telling our first team they are being benched for the reserves and Brendan would be battered to death with fitba boots!
You don't seem to understand what CL football is and what players would do to appear in it.

{Ed007's Note - Are you forgetting Rodgers played Liverpool reserves and fringe players away to Real Madrid?}

25 Aug 2016 19:42:29
thank god your not our manager, explain to me why anyone would consider playing our youth team against Barca, man city, that is delusional.

25 Aug 2016 19:57:12
Didn't know that Ed, didn't really follow Liverpool in Europe. What was the reason for that, did he concede before the game was played because it was Real?

{Ed007's Note - I can't remember the reasons, I just know that amongst the many, many laughs he gave me as Liverpool manager that was a particular highlight.}

25 Aug 2016 20:01:05
Champions league is the shop window it's that simple if one of our young players tierney, Forrest, Rogic, mgregor has a real good game against Barcelona or city even if we lose heavily their value sores up.

25 Aug 2016 20:04:46
The only way to play Bsrca is to attsck them, its their defence that is there weakness, no point in trying to contain them is suicide.

25 Aug 2016 20:10:31
sorry if I sound negative - I am a total optimist come every matchday and the CL anthem plays regardless of opposition.

Not being pessimistic just being a realist. Bank the doh this season - win league - qualify for next season with £60m warchest - use this seasons cl use as and education for the young kids - try to win the BMG games to get to the Europa latter stages.

That's a 2 year plan - and as Ed007 says BRs done it before - not a popular plan but more chance of that happening than this year.

25 Aug 2016 20:23:26
haven't looked at dates yet.

Wed 15th Sept - CL - Barca
Sun 19th Sept - SPL - Rangerks
Tues 12th Oct - CL - MC
Sat 15th Oct - Eiberdeen
Sat 6th Dec - SPL - Rankgers
Wed 11th Dec - CL - Barca
Sun 15th Dec - SPL - Hearts

I know where i'd rather take the points!

25 Aug 2016 20:37:36
Aye baws to that. Can you imagine the score line with our reserves away to R. M or M. C. it would be double figures. We go and we fight to the last man. We have done the unbelievable before i know, i was there. ain't no right offs in my book.

25 Aug 2016 20:40:19
It's Hogmanys wee play the knuckle staggers mate your dates are out.

25 Aug 2016 21:17:52
Edd007 it was no laugh for me mate. It was disgraceful. He's a terrible manager, absolutely woeful. He left us in a mess, bought poorly, indirectly blamed the club for his transfers and constantly talked crap to the media . The man's a fool and celtic will most likely be embarrassed in the champions league. He can't manage a team to defend to save his life. When we were conceding tons of goals a game he was stating "you can't coach those Mistakes ". Honestly man I could go on and on, he's out of his depth at the highest level.

{Ed007's Note - Hi, Al, nice of you to visit. After spending 2 years reading the Liverpool Eds and fans get tore into Rodgers and joining in with the Utd fans gloating it's going to take a hell of a lot from him for me to reach the levels of adulation he gets on here.
I don't know if you watched us on Tuesday but his decision to keep Janko and Forrest on the park was absurd and the Janko decision cost us dearly.}

25 Aug 2016 21:40:20
Big Al, count yourself lucky you didn't have our previous manager.

25 Aug 2016 22:02:47
was apprehensive and disappointed when br signed.
but (as you can see from all the post anti-mine) as celtic fans like to think we can take on the world and like to give people chances. even after all the last few season disappointments.

BR has already hinted that the fans need patience during European games - so I'm lowering expectations and just going to enjoy each match as it comes - although enjoy was not the word I was using when watching the Happy Bear Shavers.

25 Aug 2016 22:08:22
wcw - dates were fake - just to highlight my original post about forget midweek unwinnable CL games and win the must win SPL games at weekend - so we can bank another 30 mil next season.

26 Aug 2016 10:57:07
Typically the games around Europe are fixed it's like that every season. Some to note - Hearts (a) Aberdeen (h) Rangers (h) Inverness (a) Dundee (a) Hamilton (H) Aberdeen (a) Inverness (h) St Johnstone (h) all fixed to make us try drop as many points as possible. Hope it all back fires.

25 Aug 2016 18:46:47
Well we all know that's a very tough group, and like a lot of you I was slightly underwhelmed at getting Barcelona again. But then I got to thinking, what the hells wrong with us . When we were watching the game the other night would any of us be bothered about playing Barcelona when it looked like we were getting knocked out and getting slaughtered by all the Huns . Take a step back lads, while we are playing these teams and earning millions sevco will probably be playing Inverness . I know where I'd rather be .

25 Aug 2016 19:55:01
Didnt want Barcelona but now my senses have came around that we are gona see suarez in the flesh.

25 Aug 2016 20:02:39
Another thing is . in another 20-30 years we can say 1 of the world's greatest players came to celtic park very often. and loved it

Wouldn't it be great if we hadeve had that to say bout maradonna brackenbar best and all the greatest players to have lived who played in europe.

26 Aug 2016 10:24:41
and the 30m will take away the pain of missing the occasional wet Wednesday at Dingwall or Tynecastle HH.

25 Aug 2016 18:32:59
It's as tough as it gets and I wouldn't want it any other way. But NONE of those clubs will fancy coming to Paradise. Bring them on. Us and Barcelona top two. Ps. I'm on the piss at Blackpool!

25 Aug 2016 20:00:59
We guessed you were on the sauce. :)

25 Aug 2016 18:31:58
The other 3 will take points off each other home and away and if we can sneak a win or two at home and a draw we could sneak through . Forever the optimist HH.

25 Aug 2016 18:28:20
Pretty easy option surrounding Paddy Roberts, get him signed up permanently! We have the money! Then all this rubbish surrounding wether he can play or not goes away!

25 Aug 2016 18:39:06
. man city already tweeted that he can play.

25 Aug 2016 18:23:46
With us having played Barcelona more times than the rangers now in our history, should we be calling it the new old firm game?

25 Aug 2016 19:19:35
Brilliant! 😁 🍀.

25 Aug 2016 18:04:37
Jesus Barcelona and man city throw in Germans that Celtic ball must have been Fecking cold not saying Eufa hold grudges, bring it on HH.

25 Aug 2016 18:01:18
Without a doubt the hardest draw Barcelona too familiar by now they be happy coming to us

Cant see PR being able ( I know he can ) to play against us without ruining the link to Man City

Munchengladbach strange it was them that kept us out of Pot 3! Lost there best player IMO in Nordveidt last season but is there a poor German team at this level?

Happy we are there though,

Don't want getting turned over away either.

25 Aug 2016 17:59:36
Barca again. boring!

25 Aug 2016 18:16:20
Sick of barca.

25 Aug 2016 17:58:52
Totally deflated after that draw, let's not waste any money, we ain't getting out of this one . Lol 😁.

25 Aug 2016 18:27:12
Sorry fabadabadoo, the other 3 will take points off each other home and away, and if we can win a couple at home we might just sneak through. You never know , but I'm forever an optimist HH Vinciebhoy.

25 Aug 2016 19:27:55
They will also take three points of us home and away lol 😁.

26 Aug 2016 10:28:21
Money has to be spent to keep us competitive in the Horror group. hey we get to the big table; you need to have the stomach for it. HH. We are Celtic FC.

25 Aug 2016 17:58:21
Nooooooooooooo!

25 Aug 2016 17:57:22
Haha. An easy group then lol.

25 Aug 2016 17:56:26
we could possibly finish third in that group.

25 Aug 2016 17:55:13
We got Barcelon man city borussia monchengladbach.

25 Aug 2016 17:34:59
Guaranteed we're getting group C!

25 Aug 2016 17:58:15
Lol bump.

25 Aug 2016 18:05:25
Get the lottery on island celt.

25 Aug 2016 16:41:50
Been waiting for this draw all day only to turn on BT Sport and be confronted by a panel of absolute spoofers! The women presenting is very easy on the eye but has an IQ the same as the potato sitting in my cupboard! They do realise Celtic are in the draw yeah?

25 Aug 2016 16:05:08
Is it wise to believe who we get in the group dictates who we sign prior to close of window. As in if we got Leicester from pot 1 and another 2 kinder teams from pot 2 and 3. A lot of cash be splashed on 2/ 3 players because we would have a very realistic chance of winning the group. We're as if we got Madrid or bayern and a man city and a third hard team, they be more inclined to make a signing or 2 as a gesture giving us no hope what so ever.
Just something I've being pondering today with all the supposed signings from has beens to hidden gems. From lads worth 15m to lads on a free. Granted loans sometimes work as in Roberts, but heard some idiot earlier saying it looked good Joe Hart to Celiac cause we have a good relationship with city and champions league, what complete shit.

25 Aug 2016 16:38:46
That's an interesting point. Hopefully we get an easier draw if there is such a thing.

25 Aug 2016 15:25:56
Dear all

There is no prestige in being unceremoniously anihalated with not so much as a touch of the ball or a corner kick! Of course I exaggerate for the sake of the point I am about to make below

As per ED sentiment, I got excited by the material revenue upsides. I thought " well that should keep us ahead of the rest domestically for a while " and provide more financial robustness. The money excited me also because I felt that there was more scope for material player investment ( to make us better)

I'm not excited about players getting a bonus or the manager and chief executive getting a bonus and 20% of the money generated going to staff. I get it but I'm not excited by it

If we don't invest then what's the point. We talk about downsizIng due to finances well now we could be in for £30m

It needs to be invested wisely and it will be very interesting to see the appetite for betterment

I really do hope the drama of it all doesn't see our team stand still and fat cats ( including players and staff and management) getting fatter and fatter

We the fans deserve the best ( accepting the constrains that we operate under ) This is a chance to invest in the next wanyama or VVD or Forster IE pay for young players who have actually competed at a decent level who have experience and potential ( not the same as a project ) and let's see if we can get 2 years from them and sell them on for a substantial profit

Part of me thinks we could take the revenue that wasn't part of our year's projected budget and spend it on decent loaners to ensure a level of competitiveness but I hope we don't go down that route

3 good additions that demonstrate progress and a genuine commitment to take the club forward please? Otherwise what is the point of it all?

25 Aug 2016 15:52:03
Between the CL and the ST money and not forgetting sponsorship deals they can't be sitting on any less than £60m when all is said and done so there is no excuse not to invest seriously in the team.

25 Aug 2016 15:55:03
Spot on and very well put. This will be another test for BR in my opinion with his strength of character against the Board and his powers to persuade them to invest in the team and not just their pockets!

25 Aug 2016 16:05:16
Agreed mate.

25 Aug 2016 16:43:08
I think from post-match interviews, that group stage qualification is seen as a 'target-met', by the board/ club and any further success in the CL will be seen as a bonus.
I was hoping that in BR we have a manager that wants to build his own team and has identified a list of targets and surplus players that can be sold to raise additional funds to do this.

Realistically, we will never compete with the 'pot ones and two's' but it wasn't that long ago that we were attracting decent players under WGS and NL that managed a good few memorable CL nights.
I understand the bottom line will always be domestic dominance and winning titles, but European football is where players want to compete, supporters want a change from the same opponents 3 or 4 times a season and the revenue from all angles is more lucrative.

25 Aug 2016 16:30:47
If we could get 60.000 through the gates for domestic matches without being in the Champions league, I would gladly settle for the Europa league.
Unfortunately as has been shown in the last couple of seasons, by not qualifying for the Champions league group stages the crowds at domestic level have taken a huge hit, that also hits the club hard financially.
The real problem lies in our league lacking much quality or excitement. If the matches were more entertaining, the less committed fans might come more often. As it is, money aside, a lot of fans want more glamorous opposition than you get in our own league.
It's the same with signing players, any hope Celtic have of attracting players of better quality mostly depend on us being in the Champions league, whereas in England a club like Chelsea can attract big name signings with no European football at all.
I don't actually like the greed and self interest involved in the Champions league, but I would rather our club tried to improve rather than decline.
If there was a way of doing that without the Champions league money, then I would gladly take it, but I don't know any other way.

25 Aug 2016 14:44:03
my opinion:
easiest group: cska moskva, sevilla, club brugge, celtic

hardest group: real madrid, borussia dortmund, tottenham, celtic.

id like a mix of the 2 preferably:

real madrid, cska moskva, club brugge.

id want to get the easiest way to the next round but with real madrid in there for the big game at celtic park.

whats all your opinions.

25 Aug 2016 14:55:48
i meant bayer leverkusan instead of sevilla.

25 Aug 2016 15:00:42
It really depends on the players we bring in. If we play a top team the way we did against the Beers then we will be humiliated so it friends.

Taking in the great teams with a like if rubbish won't wash. Literally.

25 Aug 2016 15:11:10
I would personally prefer the softest draw possible. That said, it can often be a blessing landing a top seed who will run away with the group, especially if the game programming is kind. For instance, if we draw Real Madrid or Barcelona and they win all their games prior to playing us at CP in their last game they are likely to field an unmotivated or 'weakened' side, presenting a better chance of 3 points.

I would like to stay optimistic and believe we should not be aiming higher than third spot. If we recruit two more quality players before the end of the window we will be a tough opponent at home.

My choice would be Real Madrid, Sevilla and Lyon. Sevilla qualified via the EL and finished 7th in La Liga. Lyon have been rebuilding for a a while and Arsenal have been sniffing around Lacazette who would be a massive loss to them.

No easy draw if the truth be told.

{Ed007's Note - Teams from the same country can't be drawn in the same group.}

25 Aug 2016 15:24:32
Cska and real are both pot 1.

25 Aug 2016 15:27:43
We can't get Madrid and CSKA as thy're both in Pot 1 ab.

25 Aug 2016 16:03:20
Ah, right so Ed! (tail between legs) .

25 Aug 2016 16:03:53
just the luck of the draw haha.

25 Aug 2016 17:12:55
Very difficult to avoid an English team Ed IMO 8 groups, 4 English teams need to be kept apart equals 1 in 2 chance.

{Ed007's Note - Without Man Utd and Chelsea in there this could be a good year to get an English team, the only one I'd have any worries about are Spurs.}

25 Aug 2016 13:36:53
Nabil Bentaleb. Tielimans from anderlecht . Jus a few I think could do a job in the hoops. Any ideas who this signing could be.

25 Aug 2016 13:45:23
No chance of Tielemans. Bentaleb looked a right good player when he broke through, read he was surplus at Spurs.

25 Aug 2016 13:53:18
Bentaleb is away to schalke.

25 Aug 2016 13:57:06
Bentaleb gone to Shalke mate.

25 Aug 2016 14:01:54
tielemans would be some signing, not got a hope in hell of him tho, can see him in epl next season if not this season.

25 Aug 2016 14:24:38
Didn't realise Bentaleb was gone. I know tielemans is a long shot but u never know lol. Jordie clasie? Still think ryan Mason be a good player to sign.

25 Aug 2016 14:36:59
Bentaleb on loan with option of 17 million to buy so we can rule him out for the next few seasons.

25 Aug 2016 15:29:49
Classie is a prospect too. Doesn't seem to be part of plans either although it's early yet.

25 Aug 2016 12:55:59
I want the easiest draw possible today. I want to keep Real Madrid to the semis.

25 Aug 2016 12:45:25
I think a move for Callum Patterson should be done. He can tackle, attack and when needed can put it about a bit. Would for right in.

25 Aug 2016 13:00:27
Very good young player.

25 Aug 2016 16:14:14
he would be good for spl but his ahem "shoulder charging" would get him in trouble in europe i think also isn't he a sevco fan he certainly looks like one?

25 Aug 2016 11:07:48
Just a quick question:-
There is a chance we may get Man City in the draw, so I assume that would stop Roberts from playing against his parent club?

25 Aug 2016 11:26:28
Mo bangura.

25 Aug 2016 11:26:52
Uefa rules mean city couldn't stop him playin mate. Member courtais played against Chelsea. Only thing is it could ruin our good relationship with city if we did play him.

25 Aug 2016 11:30:52
No its against eufas rules to try and stop a player playing
The Chelsea keeper and bangura both played against their owners.
But what it could do is harm out good relationship with city if we do when the want otherwise.

25 Aug 2016 12:41:46
It would also turn Man C fans against him if he played well. Something that work in our benefit.

25 Aug 2016 13:00:40
Thanks for clearing that up bhoys.

25 Aug 2016 10:43:56
So its on the Daily Mail so must be true 🤔
Hope we aren't intending on blowing out load on McCarthy. Years loan with option to buy maybe but i'm not convinced with this kid, especially with the values that are floating around.

25 Aug 2016 11:10:51
I would say that McCarthy is the best Scottish born player in the last twenty years.

25 Aug 2016 11:27:52
Perhaps, but considering its been more than 20 years since Scotland was even considered a half decent footballing nation it means very little.

25 Aug 2016 11:30:26
You would say wrongly off the top of my head, lambert and Collins were better .

25 Aug 2016 11:35:59
I wouldn't rate him higher than Shaun maloney to be honest.

25 Aug 2016 12:44:05
I agree with kev. Kid is no bad but that's it for me. Only has his name in lights because he is in an EPL side. He could play for us and be no bigger or better than an on form Broony.

25 Aug 2016 13:11:56
Shaun Maloney wasnt born in Scotland.

25 Aug 2016 13:43:58
OK. I wouldn't rate him any higher than
Naismith
Snodgrass
Mcarthar.

25 Aug 2016 14:03:28
Fair enough, we'll just have to disagree on that.

25 Aug 2016 14:20:05
What has he done that any of them haven't?

25 Aug 2016 14:55:03
Didnt say that he'd achieved most just that he's the best as in most talented scottish born footbalker in the last twenty years.

25 Aug 2016 15:05:39
Not a chance.

25 Aug 2016 10:07:47
Always let the dust settle.
Now, so far i like what i see of BR. Can anyone offer me an explanation as to why he persisted with Janko after half-time on Tuesday when it clearly wasn't working. The solution was fairly obvious. Erik on. Listig to RB. So far he has been lauded for chsnging formation quickly and effectively so why did he allow tgat situation to persist.

25 Aug 2016 10:33:26
Possibly had it in his mind of going to a back 3 with Janko and young Tierney as wing backs, although I do agree with you I was calling for Janko Eric swap within 20 mins! Who knows if we made that change might not be in the champions league, we hung on which is what matters most.

25 Aug 2016 10:37:01
Nobody agreed with it at the time but we went through so it was the right decision in the end.

25 Aug 2016 10:41:32
Janko has potential and has pace to burn. Remember he is just back from a long term injury, maybe BR hoped he would settle down. Back fired tho. Probably not the best time to be flung into the mix on such a high pressure game. can't make the right decisions all the time tho, even Fergie had his days.

25 Aug 2016 11:02:02
Like most I was screaming for sviatchenko to replace janko and move lustig out to right back. Given the fact BR likes to change formation at times unlike our previous boss, if BR is going to use this 3 at the back with 2 wing backs then we've definitely got to sign a right back before the window closes. I like lustig but don't see him getting through a full season without injury and I think most people would agree janko's not the answer although he is young and still has a lot to learn.

25 Aug 2016 11:07:13
I don't want to slaughter Janko but the truth is he had a game to forget the other night. I had a go myself in the heat of moment, but when I cooled off I thought back to the time I was 21 and realised how difficult it was trying to find my feet in my own job. He is only a kid and is as raw as the come. At the minute his main attribute is speed. Hopefully the coaching staff can work hard on his decision making, tackling and general positional awareness and develop a solid player.

I have heard people make the age comparison argument in relation to Tierney but the truth is players develop at different rates. Tierney is a special talent but I am also hopeful this kid comes good.

25 Aug 2016 09:31:41
Would like to see Patterson, MacCarthy ( on loan ) Robson-Kunu and Roberts signed as marquee signing.
Also Johannsen to sign extension, I think a hard working Johannsen away from home could do a better job than Macgregor and Rogic.
Then we need a complete clear out of as many excess players as possible with them told there will be no new contracts for them
If we can remove 12/ 14 players off the payroll in the next year then better can be brought in for next season.

25 Aug 2016 11:14:02
Yeah with Johanson being one taking off the payroll. Hard working? I'm not McGregors biggest fan but he works much harder.

25 Aug 2016 11:32:11
Agree with jonace johansen in the squad the other bight would have helped. Calm on the ball and runs through brick walls for us. Some fans forget that because he had a poor season.

25 Aug 2016 13:37:21
Agreed Yayo, no matter how badly he plays he always gives 100% and fights for every ball.

26 Aug 2016 10:15:30
Johansen in form was an amazing player I find he doesn't give as much now and tends to stupidly trip the player up rather than track him does a lot of off the ball dirty tactics too which will get him sent off in Europe.

25 Aug 2016 09:10:33
There won't be any easy games in the Group Stage but if we can get another 2 or 3 additions in that will improve the team we are more than capable of getting points on the board. It's hopefully going to be a busy few days with in and outs. Getting the deadwood out is as equally as important but not always easy. I don't see any game time coming for Mackay Steven, Commons, Ambrose, So the quicker we can release them the better. An on form Johansen would clearly enhance the team/ squad but with being no further forward on signing a new contract we are as well trying to move him on also. At CB we have Toure, Sviatchenko, Simunovic, O'Connell and even Lustig ahead of Boyata so maybe his times up also. Having Roberts, Sviatchenko, Simunovic, and Ajer available will make a huge difference with players fighting for positions. Wednesdsy night was a stinker and i can't see us playing so badly again especially with so many 'starters' to come back in along with new additions so plenty to look forward to.

25 Aug 2016 08:07:47
Just a wee thank you to Rostov knocking out those tossers, glad to see them humped.