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24 Nov 2017 19:46:11
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24 Nov 2017 12:32:38
SMSM, so called pundits (actually puppets) and most of Scotland fair enjoyed our demise on Wednesday. Fair enough if that's the highlight of there season then it means there own team are doing hee haw. We don't want there sympathy nor there praise. What I do want is the players to remember all this and especially the way PSG players celebrated as we were ruthlessly taken apart. But hey. we've been in worse places than this during our 130 years of unbroken history ☘.

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24 Nov 2017 15:04:59
Patdabhoy. I don’t have a problem with them celebrating. I would expect our guys (especially Lustig and Griffiths) to do the same if we took 7 off any team but i agree with the rest of your post buddy.

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24 Nov 2017 17:35:56
Arrowh. what I meant by PSG players celebrating was that they showed no mercy and rightly so. that's what we should be doing to teams domestically more often.

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24 Nov 2017 18:47:09
Neymar must still be the biggest bawbag ever to have hit the bag wae a baw! What a total and utter twat. This wanting your photo taken wae these fuds when they come to Parkhead needs to stop. Educate your weans! ☘️.

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24 Nov 2017 11:30:43
It's a sad day when you agree with Kris Boyd's column. I believe this team is good enough to put the open playing philosophy into use in the Europa League but we must learn lessons with regards to the elite teams and adapt.

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24 Nov 2017 15:07:51
He's a prize fud who needs to be ignored.

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24 Nov 2017 15:22:11
What part do you agree with exactly that Celtic are embarrassing boyd has never scored in the champions leauge group stage his opinion means nothing we beat anderlecht 3 0 away from home playing the same formation if we had defended like we would have done under Martin oneil we wouldn't have got the result personally I would rather watch good attacking football than Walter Smiths park the bus anti football that boyd thinks we should play.

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24 Nov 2017 16:21:05
Of course I agree that it was embarrassing Gordo, we got beat 7-1! And your point about the Anderlecht game just sums up the problem I have with some of our fans and BR when it comes to Europe. There’s this crazy notion that we need to pick between expansive football or defensive football when there’s absolutely no reason to do so. We can play the nice football against a team like Anderlecht but that doesn’t mean we can’t shut up shop against PSG to avoid a roasting. If changing styles to suit the opponent is good enough for guys like Fergie and Mourinho then it’s good enough for us.

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24 Nov 2017 17:03:16
Boyd's own managers always leave him out of the team when they face Celtic, they obviously don't think he is good enough.
Whilst he can't even get in Kilmarnock's team when they play us, he is in no position to criticize us for the way we play against one of the world's top teams.
He is just a bitter old hun.

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24 Nov 2017 17:16:07
Kevbhoy everyone is entailed to there own view but for me we have been better in Europe this year apart from the psg games we have hardly played bad and I personally rather get beat playing better to watch football than park the bus who cares what the media has to say about it.

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24 Nov 2017 17:46:08
Gordo I love our style of play, I really do but surely 2/ 3 games a season we can swallow our pride and try to get through these tough away games with a bit of pride still intact. It’s not just the media, there are a lot of Celtic fans really not happy about this. Anyway, it’s done now and like I said hopefully the EL will provide us with a more accurate measure of where we are as a team and in particular playing in our chosen style.

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24 Nov 2017 18:11:39
True mate we probaly should but one game it's going to pay off and it will all be worth it el is more our level I would say.

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24 Nov 2017 18:35:20
The only way we are going to improve our style of play is by testing it against the very best, and learning it's weaknesses when they are ruthlessly exposed. Apart from these hidings we've had against the top 3 or 4 teams in the world our results have been quite good, beating the champions of Belgium, Norway, Kashakstan, Drawing twice with Man City, etc.

I'm quite optimistic about a run in the Europa League, there are no super teams in it and I think we can take on anyone outwith that group of 4 or 5 teams, the ones that can thrash anyone, even each other.

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23 Nov 2017 23:54:53
Ed when will Patrick Roberts be back. I'm sure he flew out to Paris with the squad but obviously wasn't involved.

{Ed007's Note - He was on the bench in Paris so he's fit for some game time I'd reckon.}

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24 Nov 2017 08:29:48
On current form Forrest should be first pick for sunday.

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24 Nov 2017 17:04:52
Wee paddy was doing warm down after the match.

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24 Nov 2017 18:29:37
Kev83, I agree, Forrest always turns up in cup games Aswell. Always seems to be involved in a goal.

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23 Nov 2017 21:07:09
Last night was hard to take and I doubt if there's a Celtic man out there not hurting today. Sundays final is the perfect opportunity to get back on track and I wouldn't be surprised if we took it out on Motherwell. I don't think the players will need any motivating.

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23 Nov 2017 22:04:02
Hope you’re right, the players must be gutted getting smashed in Paris. COYBIG 🍀🍀🍀.

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23 Nov 2017 18:48:19
I'm under no illusion regarding the gulf in class. In the main but not always you get what you pay for. But-we won't put 7 past Brechin and most agreed the gap between Celtic and Brechin is bigger than the gap between Celtic and PSG. So for me and I'm a massive Brendan fan who hopes he's here for years to come he has demonstrated (1) he can set up a team to attack anybody even last night we'd chances (2) he is tactically astute and can change a game when its not going to plan but (3) what he hasn't shown is that he can put out a team set up not to lose. Even the great Jock Stein had to do that on one occasion with the greatest Celtic team of all time. ☘️.

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23 Nov 2017 19:26:20
I actually thought we where better last night than then home game psg have world class man for man apart from maybe there keeper before the game I would have took 4-1 the problem we have is to many individual errors.

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23 Nov 2017 19:48:16
Spot on JFP. Brendan seems unable to set up a defensively minded team when facing obviously better opponents. I'm not sure why he sees this as such a no go but hopefully this will change. You can't lose if you don't concede. But there seems to be a lot of people on here who forget (or weren't born) the genuinely bad YEARS (not matches) . I was born in the mid seventies and growing with them winning 9 in a row was real embarrassment.

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23 Nov 2017 19:49:03
Agreed Gordo I think we were better last night but I think we're still better than 7-1. I'd have taken a 3-0 defeat but I think we seem to lack belief plus as I said I think Rodgers needs a reality check with respect to his purist approach. ☘️.

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23 Nov 2017 20:08:59
Agreed VT! I grew up watching Celtic win 9 in a row and thought as a wee laddie Celtic just always won the league! Think how hard I took their 9 in a row and their huddle at Celtic Park. God Bless Tommy Burns it took a greater toll on him. But I wouldn't swap ma Celtic top for all the EPL tops in the world. Brendan needs to wisen up though to the fact you need to fight the fight the way the odds suit you. ☘️.

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23 Nov 2017 21:03:01
Too true mate. When almost all of EPL lot are bust,
we'll still be here. Hail hail.

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23 Nov 2017 21:19:13
I wouldn't say we lacked belief as we could have been 2 up before they scored I think we just crumbled jfp we can only learn from this I can see Brendan Rodgers thinking about not changing because would oh rather lose trying to win or lose trying not to get beat.

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23 Nov 2017 22:14:01
It was like Tyson v Bruno when we scored. Then the commentator said “he’s hurt Tyson” When we all new he’d just woke up a monster (PSG) . We will probably have better luck in Europa but don’t really like the Thursday night stuff. It wrecks our domestic scene.

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24 Nov 2017 09:06:19
Jfp1888 we could easily score 7 against Brechin
Last season we took
6 off Kilmarnock
5 off the rangers
4 off aberdeen
All SPFL teams.

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23 Nov 2017 15:53:19
There is a saying in life "you get what u pay for", nothing could be more true regarding the CL.
It has now gone to different levels for me, Bayern, PSG. Barca, Real are on different planets to ALL other teams including Man City Juve Man Utd etc and they are spending 100s of millions.
Then there is the next level which would include the above with maybe a Monaco Chelsea, Spurs, Dortmund, Napoli etc.
Then there is teams who we are expected to compete against like Zenit, Benfica, Donetsk, Seville, Milan I could go on, but even these teams are spending 80-100m.
How do we compete against that.
I not moaning guys just putting out the reality of the situation. For me at the minute getting in the CL is a trophy for us cos we have literally no chance of qualifying unless we get real lucky.
Nobody likes getting gubbed but does it benefit us? that's a big YES from me cos not being there is much much worse believe me.
So I would ask stop dissecting our defeats to the likes of PSG etc and concentrate on what we CAN do.

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23 Nov 2017 16:59:41
First of all Man City are better than Real and Bayern (who are really poor at the moment) and are possibly the best team in the world at the moment.

Secondly a Martin O'Neill, Gordon Strachan or Neil Lennon would not be embarrassed like that in Europe. I don't think Celtic should be beating teams like this but they shouldn't be shipping 12 goals in to games. Look at PSG's results in the league against Montpellier or Dijon who they've beaten 2-1 and 2-0.

One win in 11 CL group games isn't good enough for Celtic and is worse than O'Neill, Strachan and Lennon.

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23 Nov 2017 17:02:42
I agree rayman and the financial reward helps us a lot along with a good chance of 3rd place. its just reality.

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23 Nov 2017 17:47:40
Should be renamed 'who's the richest' league because three of the teams mentioned there Barcelona Manchester City and PSG aren't even champions but are all loaded. To get remotely near these teams we need luck on our side because for all I thought SIMUNOVIC and Boyata were horrendous last night . who are we going to buy or afford that would have stopped that? Said before domestic dominance is our bread and butter. How much longer can we continue to ship goals galore before becoming a laughing stock in europe.

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23 Nov 2017 17:52:52
C bear I know you've probably lost track of modern day CL football, but i can tell you the financial gulf now compared to O'Neils Strachans or Lennons day is huge. We could compete better then because we weren't being outspent so hugely back then. PSG had a player on the bench last night that cost roughly twice what the whole Celtic starting 11 cost to assemble. I noticed you hand picked 2 of PSG's worst results of the season ( which they still won) rather than the multiple hidings they've handed out.

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23 Nov 2017 18:01:43
Who did they have on the bench worth 100 million? Financial gulf is no different than Dijon v PSG. I think the players values have now become vastly inflated recently but in not sure the gulf is that different between lennons side and Rodgers team.

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23 Nov 2017 18:19:52
They didn't have anyone on the bench worth 100 million but they had Di Maria who cost 46 million and the Celtic team last night cost roughly 20 million.

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23 Nov 2017 19:27:02
Great Post Rayman99,
While I’m extremely disappointed by the result last night, our target was to qualify for the Europa League/ Cup. We are on course to do that providing we don’t balls it up.
I’m not one who likes to criticise any Celtic Player as I always try to back the Team. But there’s a first time for everything. Hopefully the performance last night shows Brendan must strengthen the Defence. At the moment Boyata and Jozo are good for the Scottish League but the CL is a completely different matter.
This is where the problem lies, we could go out and buy 2 new CB in Jan for say £5m each. We might improve but can we honestly say this will make the difference in the CL?
Getting to the Group Stages is a major achievement but I feel the Europa is our level at the moment.
We just need to hope we’ll learn from this and try to make our Defence a more solid unit, which will take time.
Oh well, looking forward to Sunday. I’m going as my daughter gave me a hard time and basically said we’re going to Hampdump.
We have dreams and songs to sing! 🍀🍀.

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23 Nov 2017 23:20:33
The above posts made me think of the serenity prayer - "Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change and the wisdom to know the difference" I think its fair to say that in the present world Celtic are not going to compete with the PSG's of this world because of the money that have available to them. Of course anything can happen and we will occasionally get a result just a Progres did against the best team in the universe but realistically I think we have to accept that PSG are on a different planet so what do we need the courage to change and perhaps that means that on occasion we need to play with "catenaccio" style of Giovanni Trapatoni's teams. I will however not presume to have the wisdom to know the difference so I will leave that up to Brendan. Anyway a cup on Sunday should help to ease the pain. COYBIG.

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24 Nov 2017 09:36:57
C-bear85 I guess you forgot Barcelona skelped Lennons side 6-1 and strachan lost 5-0 to a team of nobody's in his first season.

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24 Nov 2017 09:54:42
So are we saying that because two £5m defenders that won't make a difference in the CL? Of course it would. What's the alternative? We just say what's the point?

Improving us defensively is vital. If we improve defensively for the CL we increase the likelihood of domestic domination and access to the money.

Four of the goals were defensive balls ups. We need to address this and a keeper is also a must.

Putting us in a position to win 3rd place every year and post Christmas participation, should be our goal and in order for that to be remotely possible means the defence needs gutted.

I thought we threatened them well at times. But when your defence gifts four goals it's too much to overcome. Changes needed to be made in the summer. That it was'nt worries me. This result will be looked back on as a pivotal moment like the semi defeat to Rangers. Everybody knows what needs to be done. There is no hiding place now, sufs in the street know it and I believe Rogers will sort it.

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24 Nov 2017 13:10:52
Magicpole I didn't say spending won't make a difference. You would hope it does but there's no guarantee.
Just look at the money Everton have spend and where are they?
I hope that with good coaching and with our World wide Scouting system we'll pick up a couple of CB gems at a affordable price.

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23 Nov 2017 14:10:08
I'm a spurs fan who also loves Celtic, when the English media laugh at Celtic's poor performance in the champions league need to get real. Psg front 3 would be enough to buy the whole of Celtic football club lol . Like I said many of times if Celtic had the revenue if most of the European clubs they would be winning the champions league as well. I bet neymars one week wages would pay the whole squad wages for a few weeks. I will always be proud of the bohys whatever the results.

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23 Nov 2017 14:20:50
i can see the same outcome if liverpool or man utd get them.

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23 Nov 2017 15:10:23
PSG may well beat the English clubs but I doubt that they would put 7 past them.
I love what Rodgers has done for our club, but he doesn't seem to learn any lessons as regards European football. We really have to become better organised against these teams and make ourselves more difficult to beat
I don't expect us to go away from home against these teams and win, but we shouldn't be letting 5,6,and 7 goals past us so often, we should at least be able to keep the score down.
The problem is that it's not just happening against the big guns of Europe, we scored 5 goals against Astana at home but still managed to concede 4 in the away leg, we lost to Lincoln red imps last season, and only just held on against Hapoel, again after scoring 5 in the home leg.
I don't know if it's tactics, or whether some players are just not good enough, but we really have to try and do something about it.
Last week England, Northern Ireland, and the Republic of Ireland (at least in the away leg) all played superior opposition, but they were all well organised and kept their games very tight.
That is what we should be aiming for.

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23 Nov 2017 16:04:24
. with biton at right back.

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23 Nov 2017 16:57:14
Gerryc i agree with what your saying I don't know if it's just Brendan's inability to organise a defensive setup or just too stubborn to change from his attacking philosophy but your right I don't think many people thought we could go there and get a result so why not organise the team to make it more difficult for them hit them on the break occasionally and limit their scoring chances. on a side note the FFP regulations are a complete joke salary caps and transfer budget caps are required now I think it is getting beyond a joke also the fact they were allowed to take mbappe on loan after his transfer was blocked just makes a mockery of the FFP reg's.

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23 Nov 2017 17:06:16
digibanger, that's the whole point, we shouldn't be in a position where we are playing this level of opposition with players playing out of position. You can probably get away with doing that in our league, but you won't get away with it in Europe.
In my opinion we badly need a goalkeeper who gives confidence to the defence, and we also need a Centre half who can read the game at that level.
As I said previously, we aren't just struggling to contain the elite teams in Europe, the smaller teams are finding us a soft touch as well.
We have good forward players who can cause problems for most teams, but they've got no chance to shine whilst we are conceding this amount of goals.

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23 Nov 2017 17:53:38
Feel sorry for Bitton he's only playing were he's told to. Probably be out the door soon but to put the guy in defence against a team like that was bordering on cruelty. Blame for that lies squarely with BR and the board.

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23 Nov 2017 12:35:40
Did anyone else notice the look of fear on the faces of some of our bhoys in the line up before last night's game. Wee Forrest McGregor simunovic Gordon and especially Boyata who was found wanting all night looked as if they were going for a seat on old smokey. If I recall only Lustig Brown and Tierney had that f####n come ahead look about them. THE CELTIC JERSEY WONT SHRINK TO FIT INFERIOR PLAYERS ☘.

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23 Nov 2017 13:37:08
cant believe all these english pundits that slate our team and state of scottish football. they should choose their words wisely. that psg team will destroy everything in their path. 7-1 was harsh on us.

{Ed007's Note - What happened to Arsenal against Bayern Munich or City against us last year?}

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23 Nov 2017 16:58:27
The real elite are psg Bayern Madrid and Barca, teams from Croatia Belgium Holland Denmark Poland us and even Portugal to an extent are only playing these clubs to fulfill their fixtures so they can collect the CL money, they are not really competing with them, there’s always been some teams with extra money, but nothing like this, Man it’s liverpool Milan Benfica Celtic PSV Ajax Red Star etc all won this tournament with mainly players from their country-how many Parisians play for Paris? They may aswell be called Middle East money athletic, that’s all they are.

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23 Nov 2017 18:40:14
No doubt I’m about to get some grief here as I am as critical on tierney last night as those being castigated here. He was missing for at least three goals and seriously misjudged many balls that should have been his.
We have to be balanced, if Boyata and Gordon are to be criticised in the face of such overwhelmingly better opposition then be fair and mention Tierney, Brown and McGregor in the same post
Tin hat at the ready.

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24 Nov 2017 10:30:37
No tin hat required. You're right. But going forward Tierney will be a pivotal component. The rest won't.

We need two cb's and a right back. Ralston is not the answer either.

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23 Nov 2017 12:29:17
BR cannot go into europe with the same mentality, tactics, and formations, he needs to adjust and adapt to the better teams who we know that we cannot beat, and hope for a draw and not a humiliation, lenny and O'neil knew their limitations, although they had some decent defenders. The team needs Quality defenders and a goalkeeper, the fans can see this, why can't a manager or board see this. Hopefully January. Hail.

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23 Nov 2017 12:59:55
I went away on 11 euro trios with Martins team. We didn't win one. Away from home we were utter shite mostly.

The problem, as dugs in the street do, it's our defence and keeper that are dragging us down.

One great thing about last nights mauling is, we need to address it. Last night could well be the ball booting Rogers and Lawell need to buy defenders. Giving Doris an extension doesn't bode well for their judgement though.

Minds should be focused, but, it's Celtic we are talking about, so, don't hid yer breath. :)

Hopefully though, this can be another watershed like the semi final defeat.

It has to be.

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23 Nov 2017 10:46:19
I blame Dembele, he got PSG angry lol.

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23 Nov 2017 12:37:49
I thought the same, it put me in mind of the great David Narey toe poke.

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23 Nov 2017 12:51:32
Said exactly that to Mrs F last night.

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