Celtic Banter Archive December 08 2016

08 Dec 2016 22:02:17
Just looking at the Europa League results, on our form in CL I think we would have nothing to fear from any of them and many who would drop down from CL. Definitely a buzz about the club and cannot imagine LG wanting away from that.

08 Dec 2016 23:53:28
So did inter and souththampton go out?

09 Dec 2016 08:26:50
beer sheva drew 1-1 with Southampton to put them out on their arse.

09 Dec 2016 09:43:05
As the Europa goes on it makes our five goals against Beer Sheva look better and better and we would certainly have been a force in that tournament.
However, the Thursday - Sunday consequences are never welcomed by clubs and supporters.

09 Dec 2016 11:05:56
This might sound daft, but here goes. If and when we qualify for the CL next season, I'd like us to progress, make no mustake about that. But there's a part of me that wouldn't mind dropping into the EL. If we keep going the way we're going we might have a ruddy good crack at the EL. And the more footy tje better as far as I'm concerned.

09 Dec 2016 11:45:07
And the sevconians in an act of desperation were using the beer sheva away game as a means to slag us, once again like there team way off the pace beer sheva proving they're a decent outfit.

09 Dec 2016 12:29:42
The are a good team, they beat Inter home and away and I'm sure I read that they have only lost something like 3 times at home in europe.

09 Dec 2016 14:01:24
Jim Tim We need to do our damnest to get into the Champions League . We could get an UEFA League group from Hell that could have us struggling for results without the glamour of Champions League Football.


Hopefully in the early rounds of qualifying we don't come across Dundalk . In July they are mid season and play on arttifical pitch . They have just been knocked out of the UEFA Cup having beaten 2/ 3 good teams on the way .

09 Dec 2016 15:41:47
Chris, financially, the CL is pretty important to us. Although we don’t budget ourselves on it, the money gained there each year could go a long way to us seeing a better, more entertaining side on the park, developments to the Club and ground etc. But in a strange way I’d just like to see us at some point drop into the EL and have a good run in that. You say we could get a tough group even in the EL, so surely the “glamour” would still be there? There are still some pretty big clubs that get in the EL. I just think of the road to Seville, and despite getting beat in a final, how much more I savour that to getting the last 16 of the CL. That’s just my opinion though. As for Dundalk, we shouldn’t be worried about them at all.

{Ed007's Note - Why would we need to play through a EL group? Just drop down from the CL group straight into the EL. That way we've banked the CL money, getting a crack at a run in the EL and it gives us European football after Christmas.}

09 Dec 2016 16:42:12
That's exactly what I meant Ed, dropping into the knock-outs, from the CL - having enjoyed a few games and as you say, banked the money. I was just referring to what Chris said regarding a EL group. Those big clubs would still be there in the knock-outs (you'd expect anyway) .

{Ed007's Note - (yes)

09 Dec 2016 19:01:48
Nice to see u all positive about the CL ed and what it brings.
Good to know I can change your mind.
Now for Craig Gordon LOL.

{Ed007's Note - I've not changed my mind mate. I wasn't one of the ones who stopped backing the Club or team because we weren't in it. If we qualify we qualify and if we don't we don't, Scottish football is our bread and butter and will still be long after the whole rigged charade of the CL is long gone.
Did you enjoy watching us lose 7-0 to Barca? Remember, results don't matter as long as we're getting the money.}

09 Dec 2016 19:29:02
Your right ed results don't matter so much, simply because we can't win it, EVER.
So all we can do is make the best of it and its obvious the fans love the nights at Celtic park.
Yes I did enjoy the Barcelona game but not the result, I can see past it and see the benefits to the club despite these bad results.
Anybody who thinks we can go into the CL and beat likes of Barcelona regularly are deluded we can live off the last one for while lol.
Fans still talk about these games againsnt Barca, Juve, Man Utd etc that tells u everything.
U can never take away Naka free kick for eg.

09 Dec 2016 19:30:21
Ps ed, I know the CL is rigged/ seeded etc, but isn't the 2 cups here also.

09 Dec 2016 21:55:39
Rayman we can say we won it when it was still a legitimate competition or at least more of a fair competition than the corrupt garbage on view these days.

09 Dec 2016 22:24:00
Why is it corrupt, because we don't like it?
If that's your point isn't the Scottish and league cup corrupt too.
We can't have it both ways.

{Ed007's Note - Are the SFA and clubs trying to stop smaller teams qualifying and sharing the money involved?Is the Scottish Cup set up for the biggest and richest clubs to get the most money out of it and reach the latter stages?
What a stupid statement - even for you!}

10 Dec 2016 00:45:28
Your the expert on here ed, so tell me what the money is to ourselves compared to the other teams?

{Ed007's Note - You don't have a clue what you're talking about and I won't be wasting anymore time answering you. Hibswon the Scottish Cup, if you can explain how that was rigged I'll explain it to you.}

10 Dec 2016 10:00:46
Your having a laugh, we would crush Dundalk .

08 Dec 2016 21:37:28
I keep hearing that LG has thrown a few Wobblies since the league cup final and that he might be looking to move on, i cannot believe that he would do this after the way he had knuckled down and brought such credit on himself as a person and Celtic in the last couple of seasons. Can anybody give any update?

08 Dec 2016 21:59:07
Unfortunately we have many posters who seem to take great delight in reporting problems at Celtic either real or unreal . Thank God people like Malika20 understands how these people smear players and club.

08 Dec 2016 23:01:49
I think its a case of loose tongues and empty vessels making most noise.

{Ed007's Note - 2+2 = 1 million.}

09 Dec 2016 09:47:28
It's obviously disappointing going from almost winning the spl single-handed to warming the bench and I believe he must be very frustrated, but his chance will come soon and where else would he experience anything close to what he has achieved and enjoyed at Celtic?

09 Dec 2016 10:09:28
he should be frustrated and rightly so, but can't see him spitting the dummy, will imagine he will get a few more starts in the coming weeks, its up to him to take them.

09 Dec 2016 10:16:32
Think about this logically, would Brendan play Griffiths if he was throwing his toys out the pram?

Now think back to Tuesday night, Griffiths started on the bench and came on second half and got a decent amount of game time.

This suggests to me that there is no substance to these stories.

Personally, I reckon Griffiths will be frustrated and annoyed but I am sure he is being professional about it, putting the effort into training to try and impress the manager and so he is ready when his chance comes.

We have a lot of games to play and I am sure Dembele will go off the boil from time to time, so Griffiths will get his chance. His only job is to be ready when it comes and make the most of it.

09 Dec 2016 17:58:30
i think PR in the premier league would be a luxury

i think he would want to stay at celtic

i believe that Man City would accept a reasonable fee

wierdly, i think that the queue for roberts won't be that long which gives CFC a good chance of nabbing him

however, with tin hat on, i wouldn't pay much more than £3m for him based on our needs and where we want to go

he still has a long long way to go…maturity wise and decision making wise he needs to develop more and more

i do not thonk we should blow the kitty on him …indeed i don think we should blow the kitty on any player that currently isn't even guaranteed a starting X1 slot…that simply doesn't make any sense.

10 Dec 2016 10:11:03
or maybe people have been told this by people who are on the coaching staff, people are bored with old bhoy sweetie wifing at everyones posts.

08 Dec 2016 19:10:47
since I've not posted much in a while i may as well go in apologies to all who can be bothered reading.

Of all the things that have made me happy so far this season it was Brendans interview the other night where he was talking about how the players know that they have to look after themselves first and put their bodies into the right place before they can stake a claim to go onto compete at the level they should/ want to. This 1 point for me has been one of the main reasons why i think Scottish football has struggled so much recently. We do not have enough full time professional players who are good athletes when compared to their counterparts in other nations. Being the best athlete you can be in any professional sport should be just as high on your list of priorities as being technically sound. For me in modern team sports you can fill a skill gap (to a degree) by being the best athlete you can be, again something i have always found lacking in Scottish players especially and lot of other pro footballers that ply their trade in Scotland.

As a result of this increase in athleticism (and clearer tactical instruction) i am seeing an increase in players on pitch intelligence. This was something I always thought scottish teams lacked as usually the on pitch intelligence is limited to the elite players and clubs who have always tried to play more expansive games than the rest. However this season so far has shown me that this intelligence can be raised as a direct result the athleticism of individuals. A lot of this comes from the better coaching and more analytical approach but shows that it is possible to improve if the will is there within the individuals. Hopefully the rest of our game can get on board with a similar approach, it seems hearts could be about to and i really hope it pays off for them even though i dislike them profusely, but to make us better we need our opposition to get better.

The last 2 away games we played in the CL have in my opinion been 2 of the best away performances a Celtic team has put in away from home in Europe for years. The thinking was clear that the team were not going into these games to try and not get beat and hopefully nick something on the break. This attitude for me is something that hounds Scottish teams more than any others and almost every previous manager of a Scottish team in Europe has said this sort of thing at some point is the gameplan, this is a negative mindset to send a team out with and has usually resulted in poor results when used more often than not (barca away is a prime example) , it gets used a lot in the league when teams come to us, they usually end up taking a hammering. In Europe especially though i have felt this mindset has more often than not been the case and mixed with the old ways of coaching, the lack of athleticism by a lot of pros in this country and this mindset of keep it tight and maybe nick something is a big big reason why we have seen so many failures by teams on the bigger stages. I hope with Brendan this is now a thing of the past even after he is gone. Yes we will still take some doings but overall our opponents will have been in a game win lose or draw regardless of who the opponent is.

In terms of the current team we have a few areas to improve still, especially at the elite level. The biggest for me is Right Back and Goalie. I love Lustig but i just don't think he has it at the elite level, he backs off players too much and although has good pace we need someone who is a bit more explosive pace and as for Gordon well. i refer you all to ed007's thoughts as mines are the same, he cannot deal with his near post!

08 Dec 2016 20:08:07
Great post Evinguu, got to agree with all of that.

08 Dec 2016 20:33:53
For the first time since Mon days we have some real quality throughout the team and even on the bench.

For me our gk is the week link and it's not just his near post his command of the area is non existent.
It's pointless building the defence with exciting players like Tierney, sviatchenko and sumo with him between the sticks.

Would also like another dm along side broony. Broony is playing the best football of his career but he needs someone in there helping him out especially in European games.

HH.

08 Dec 2016 21:17:16
Cheers Bhampot. Positivity is always appreciated.

Tick67. Without going on an Ed style rant 😀 he is just pretty poor in a few areas for what we need, no doubting he is a decent keeper and think it was sutton who said the other night he is a good number 1 but just not for Celtic.

I think we can replace a few folk with better quality, however if the curve some of our players are on continues further then there's no reason to suggest that we don't already have it in our squad and coming through the youth, Extra cover in that area would be good as although i have liked Biton he isn't mobile/ intelligent/ brave enough for our current style of play and one who I think will be getting replaced in January/ summer.

08 Dec 2016 22:19:45
Reflecting on Tuesday night's game one of my main memories was the speed of the players, plus fast accurate passing, amazing to watch . Funny thing Celtic matched them every inch of the way . Despite Manchester's super turbo start over the first quarter Celtic matched it, both teams scored and both teams could have added a goal or two.
Up to this season I think we haven't seen Celtic play with such speed and accurate passing since maybe the Lions . B R talks of need to improve and of course that is right but if we see noticeable improvement we will have some team.