Celtic Banter Archive January 28 2015

28 Jan 2015 21:52:14
Proven SPL scorer going for £150k?

Surely we should be looking at Billy McKay at that price.

He's meant to be a blue nose. He went to school with my brother in Corby

29 Jan 2015 06:26:18
I don't understand why people think we should buy players like this. I very much doubt he's better than what we've already got. Also, we want the league to be stronger and that's not going to happen if we keep signing players from other teams in the league. If Rangers get promoted surely we want the other teams to be as strong as possible?

Sorry Mr tounge I strongly believe the opposite of this, I believe we should be signing the very best up players the spl has to offer and only look outside the spl when we can't fill the position from within, in recent years we could have had , McCarthy, gauld , Russell, mccarthur, Robertson and even Rooney from ict who has scored more goals for Aberdeen this season than all our super striker's and foreign duds combined . With the money staying in Scotland the teams would reinvest it bringing more youngsters through and the circle continues, Don't tell me the stepovic, tonevs or wakassos are better than the players I have mentioned

Sorry went a little of topic their I don't think McKay falls into this category, he is a decent spl goal scorer but not for us.

Not that I would like us to sign McKay, but the team at this moment lacks a consistent finisher and we have tried many permutations without regular success.
I am talking about a 25/30 goals a season man like Hooper - and I know Commons was on fire last season, but not this one, for one reason or another - and he is not a striker.
Scepovic, Stokes, Griffiths and Guidetti (who isn't our player) have all been too inconsistent and Balde Watt and Pukki were shipped out.
Successful Celtic sides have always been synonymous with a recognised finisher, considering the numerous chances we create.

I agree and disagree hen riks tongue, a big no too McKay but we need more Scottish talent in our squad we have needed a 2nd LB for years never signed Robertson, Armstrong is a must we need to have more scots!

The Scots should be the backbone of the team. The foreigners mainly use us as a stepping stone to the EPL. We tend to keep a hold of Scottish players longer and Scandinavians. Think of the success we would've had had we signed these players we let leave for England

Guys

about time we started smelling the coffee and realising our level. There are guys in Scotland that can do a job for us but we are too busy looking down our noses at them because they play for Inverness, haven't played in Europe, they support the wrong team.

We will just continue buying the guy with the foreign sounding name at 10 times the price who will score 10 times less goals.

{Ed007's Note - Fans of modern football would rather see their club buy average players from abroad than see our own youth being developed or buying young players from other Scottish teams and developing them. The way some CFC fans are we'd be as well closing down our academy and youth set-up.}

29 Jan 2015 16:15:34
Just to be clear, I'm not against signing Scottish players. It is important to have Scots in the team who know what playing for Celtic is all about, but would signing someone like McKay really improve our team? I don't see the point in signing someone just because they are Scottish. There are better strikers out there

I have always advocated buying or bringing in guys from other Scottish teams. Juventus, Real Madrid and to the greatest extent Bayern Munich buy regularly from other teams in their own country to great effect as they have seen the players playing in the league or from playing against them. I'm not saying we have a Nedved, Isco or Gotze playing in our league before anyone hammers me for saying but I would have McKay over Balde, Pawlett over Tonev, Ryan Jack over Bitton, Souter over Ambrose any day of the week or as you say Ed one of our own youths instead of a gamble on someone who might come good or be a waste of money.

According to a recent survey in the London times 95% of players who are at clubs or club acadamies at 15 years are gone by 18 years of age . 98% of players at 18 are not playing football at 21. Another survey shows of those who have been at Professional clubs at 15 and are let go at 18 yrs old 55% have serious mental health problems, many with alcohol or/and drug addiction .

Ed. It seems to me that overall there are far too many youngster around 15 signed up by acadamies and clubs . Are they accepting too poor a standard or is there no way of foretelling how many are going to drop out and with serious personnal problems

I think that what some people forget is that although the likes of Mackay is scoring reasonably well in the SPL, he is not coming up against a packed defence every week. I don't think that there are many who are already playing in Scotland that would excel under those circumstances.

Chris

Interesting stats. I think it is a bit of 2 things 1) too many kids that the coaches can't see the wood for the trees (Given, Robertson). 2) these guys thinking that they have made it and not committing 100% to a career as a professional footballer. We all know or played in the same team as a guy picked up by a professional team, could have been a world beater but didn't commit 100% and blew it.

Niall I agree with you but the industry as a whole are taking in too many at a young age . With so many been cast aside at 15/18 and going off the rails . We could find instead of a young player and his family delighted at getting the opportunity to join at 15, youngster will be encouraged by family and career teachers etc . and true highly skilled level headed young players could be lost to the game altogether .m

Brave tart. Surely whether Mackay is a blue nose or not isn't part of the criteria whether Celtic should sign him or not .
The fact that Celtic has always been a club open for all is one of the main difference between us and the club that died . Should we start a sectarian signing policy after 127 years .

28 Jan 2015 18:35:24
Guys/Ed just a small point about sunday. I can't remember playing a semi on the Saturday rather than a sunday. can anyone else? Obv the pitch at hampden has not been good last few years and always seems to be worse the day after a game.Which means we suffer a poorer pitch.

The last Saturday semi final I can remember was when we beat Aberdeen, I think it was 4-1, and I think it may have been the day that Commons made his debut.
If I am wrong I apologise.

Not sure what the Rugby calendar is for this weekend but do you think Murrayfield would have been a good option for this game Rayman? Or possibly have the Dundee Utd v Aberdeen game there. I read somewhere online yesterday that they would be keen to host Scotland matches in the future when the lease for Hampden expires. Hampden is pants, Didn't make the Champions League games at Murrayfield this season but been to a few gigs there and enjoyed it.

28 Jan 2015 21:08:56
Commons first game in the hoops if am not mistaken Gerry? Didn't wee beat them 9 0 the week before

Wee craigy white, I know that we beat them 9-0 earlier that season.
We dominated them that season, we won all of our matches against them and we also beat them in the scottish cup semi final.

28 Jan 2015 15:50:35
RD just on tv says can't see any one come in before Monday and are working on Different things

28 Jan 2015 16:34:15
Shocker! I think I remember him sayin we would defo be stronger by the end of the window! I don't believe a word that comes out of his or lawells mouth! As usual leave the fans hanging on til the last couple of days then nuthins happens! We tried but couldn't get anyone,or January is a hard month to buy! Heard it all before I'm afraid! And we'll here it all again In the summer!

I've stopped believing what they say too Dangy. I'm actually concerned though that our managers are even getting fed some of Lawwell's famous Bullsh!t Pie.

Hi tony said at the start of the window we would get the usual "mushroom diet" mate

kept in the dark & fed choite!

I'm more optimistic than I was yesterday about a deal or 2 being done by the deadline but like every January prepared for no one. If that is the case surely we have the players to retain the Title. We are certainly looking more settled now than previous months when the starting 11 was anyone's guess.

Yeah I know Jamie I really DID think we would have had a couple of players in by now just shows how gullible I am I thought at least one CB for sure on a contract not loan again shows how gullible I am

How long does board think they will get away with not investing and talking utter Bull?

Its not breaking bank getting GMS in for £250k, a player who will make a difference or spending money received for Forster (minus scepovic fee) on areas that need strengthened.

They must have saved circa £350k in Kayal's wages easy that would have been factored into budgets etc so no reason to go get GMS IMO

If I didn't believed a word that comes out of our manager and CEO mouth I would stop supporting the team .
I am not saying that I necessarily believe everything they say, but not believe a word! 🐥🐥

28 Jan 2015 11:25:52
I see man u and fletcher are having a wee bit of a dispute over his free transfer, maybe a 6 month loan at Celtic would be beneficial for all parties.

Deila's biggest task is getting all his fit players playing a high pressure game .
It would be harder still to get a sick midfield player to press at the level Deila wants .