Celtic Banter Archive October 24 2015

24 Oct 2015 21:35:04
Really hope liewell and Desmond do the right thing and leave they don't need the money especially not dd they are both still there because the utter garbage nonsense of playing in the epl it's the only thing Dd ever mentions when we do hear from him twice a year.

25 Oct 2015 00:00:14
Your missing the point, its not their fault, when Ronnie got appointed I was really happy, thinking this is what we need a young mangaer with new ideas, new modern methods, a whole new way of looking at things, I thought it was a great appointment, and lawwell should be praised for making it, not derided, this is all about Ronnie, he talks a very good game, he is very charismatic, he is a very nice guy, but the plain fact is he is not a manager, he is a bit like brendan rodgers got lucky at swansea (stromsgodset) got shown up at liverpool (celtic), don't blame Lawwell for trying to modernise the club, its noones fault realy its just one of those things, Ronnie is'nt upto the job.

25 Oct 2015 00:17:41
D D has said that if any man can prove that he has the interests of Celtic at heart and has the necessary funds, he will quite willing sell his shares to him
If Mr Lawwell goes we will employ someone to do the board's bidding nothing much will change .

25 Oct 2015 01:37:50
You say that aindoh and I see your point to a extent but is Jose a bad manager now because Chelsea are doing terrible . I'm with you on was glad to modernise us try something new and different but ronny was originally brought in to be number 2 to whoever took the main job . his tactics aren't working he really needs a plan b.

25 Oct 2015 01:41:15
There are people on the board richer than dd that want full control so that's not true old bhoy all he ever mentions is moving leauges because he will get more money that way. that might be true about lawell but he needs to go he takes a he'll of a lot out our club and puts nothing in.

25 Oct 2015 01:39:25
DD puts in nothing and PL rakes it in. JC and JK should be replaced asap as they bring bugger all to the table. Who does the coaching of the Defence? As they should be shown the door. I get nervous every time a ball goes into the box.

25 Oct 2015 02:51:25
Peter Lawwell is good at his job, we need to remember that he is merely an employee doing Desmond's bidding .

25 Oct 2015 07:19:39
Aindoh, you are right to a certain degree but when the club sell your best players they effectively weaken your chances. It has been happening at Celtic for years which is why WGS (one of our best managers imo) and NL left. What is the point of you, as a manager, and the fans harbouring ambitions when the management of the club will sell your best players.
That said, I never fancied RD but the thoughts and comments by a lot of people on this site in particular made me think I should give the guy a chance as he was progressive. Well, he has been pretty successful in Scotland but there has been no real opposition over the long run. His record in Europe is where he has to be judged and he has failed every turn.
We should be streets ahead of everyone in Scotland - we are not and this board will soon see the fruits of their selling strategy. (I am realistic to know that we have to sell sometimes but not half the team every season ffs) .
Anyway, RD's blind loyalty to Ambrose is a kind of summary and tells me all I need to know, RD is just not up to the job as it is (Europe, tactics, plan B etc. etc. etc. )

25 Oct 2015 07:48:06
As our club is a PLC we get to see the audited accounts twice a year. I personally have read them in their enitrety on more than one occassion. Therefore, I feel I am well placed to put a myth to bed once and for all.

Many Celtic fans think one or more of the following:

1. DD and Lawwell are pocketing the money. This simply is not true. Only a small number of people have preference shares which mean they are guaranteed a dividend each year. This dividend amounts to about 1M which is split among the preference share holders.

2. That we are not spending what we make. Again this is false as it is a rare occurrance that we actually bank some profit for a rainy day. The truth is on most occassions we use our income to pay all the bills and then invest the rest on the team and their wages.

The sad reality is that income streams in Scotland are gimped and even more so since the demise of Rangers. Yes I accept that we can and should take the occassional punt to ensure success (Stephen Fletcher being a prime example) . I also accept that sometimes it is better to bring in quality over quantity and that sometimes fail in the transfer market. That being said I do realise that there is always going to be risk in the transfer market and it is common place to sign some duffers from time to time. The transfer makret is actually a double edged sword, by spending more you decrease the risk of getting a duffer but when you get a duffer you lose more.

25 Oct 2015 09:21:00
Rab, that is the best post I've seen in a while, totally agree, this liewell cr@p, and the blinded following of a duff manager is rediculous, in my opinion.

25 Oct 2015 16:44:29
@Jbhoy - Cheers mate.

In case anyone is wondering I can't stand Lawwell but you cannot argue with the fact that he keeps us financially secure and while our transfer strategy is not perfect it is the best model for us to adopt at present.

24 Oct 2015 19:31:53
Scepovic starting for Getafe against Seville tonight, he is their top scorer, hope he learns something about attitude and comes back a better man.

24 Oct 2015 20:08:20
Scepovic is gone even if he scores 100 goals this season he's away he ain't coming back he on loan then permanent deal to getafe i don't think anyone can pull out the deal.

24 Oct 2015 20:18:36
Was nothing to do with attitude. He never wanted to move to Scotland.

24 Oct 2015 22:48:41
So DN30, is his not wanting to come to Scotland wasn't a reflection of his attitude from the start? I would suggest that says all you needed to know about his attitude towards Celtic and Scotland from day one. Of course it was his attitude.

24 Oct 2015 23:14:05
Is the point of the loan deal to see if Getafe think he is good enough for them and if he is, then they will buy him, but has a fee already been agreed for a permanent deal or is it up for negotiation, and if so if he does really well if Celtic put a realistic price on him, getafe might not have enough readies and he might come back to celtic.

25 Oct 2015 00:48:56
@Jim Dhoc how do you expect a player, who has a transfer forced on him, to give "a positive attitude"? .

25 Oct 2015 13:13:32
I think I read something about £1.5m if they wish to make the deal permanent?

24 Oct 2015 18:55:28
Neil lennon was in charge when sion utrecht braga and ross county pumped us and we stood by him ronny doesn't get a chance to build his own team every year we lose our best player imagine if those guys were still at celtic.

24 Oct 2015 19:48:31
That was lenny's 1st season and not his team this is penny's 2nd year his euro record is rubbish Lennon took over from Mowbray shambles Lennon left Ronny a winning team.

24 Oct 2015 20:03:31
Ronny 2nd season lol.

24 Oct 2015 20:05:38
Some winning team he left ronny pumped 6-1 aff Barcelona and humiliated in champions league group year he left and left him with s**te like boerigter balde and pukki this has all started from before lennon though park and lawell need to get tae ****.

24 Oct 2015 20:09:29
'Left Ronnie a winning team'! He left a team that needed a right good overhaul. A lot of the games under Lennon were dire and some folk forget that.

24 Oct 2015 20:23:04
@paddymaguire was maribor and dynamo zagreb not Deilas first season? You contradict yourself to your earlier reply to my post. Lennon left Deila a team that was abysmal in CL.

24 Oct 2015 20:39:21
My point is there's a difference between parking over from Mowbray as Lennon did with that mess of a team, Lennon left Ronny a team that qualified for the champions league yes maribor and L Warsaw were Ronny s 1st but he had a more settled team than lenny had after Mowbray hence the results against sion Utrecht but lennons 2nd year to Ronny s lol c'mon it getting embarrassing I've no doubt we'll beat molde at home but we're papering over the cracks.

24 Oct 2015 20:56:52
Delia has improved Celtic in the Champions league by taking us out of it.
That appears to be the strange logic of some people on here.
In my view it's nothing to do with comparing Delia to Lennon, it's just that in my opinion Ronny Deila is a poor manager, who constantly gets his tactics wrong, can't motivate the players, and just accepts any backroom staff that is given to him.
These failings are his and his alone, they have nothing to do with Neil Lennon or anybody else. whatever is wrong about the way the club is run, it's no excuse for some of the embarrassing performances we have had under Ronny.
You don't need to spend money to create a good team spirit, and not having money to spend does not stop a manager having a good tactical knowledge, and getting the best out of whatever players you have at your disposal. There are plenty of clubs everywhere where managers work under the same conditions, and seem to make a far better job of it than Ronny is doing here.

24 Oct 2015 22:05:40
Gerryc you are right Deila accepted Scottish back-up staff, he would have been foolish not to have . Deila has also bough top class back - up staff from Norway
There will always be people, some will claim to be fans who will talk and write about tensions from within, they may be right but spreading that type of news cannot be helpful to the club.

24 Oct 2015 14:38:50
See all the posters who are calling for Deila's head, pull yer heid out the sand. No matter WHO is in charge, the same problems are always going to be there untill Lawwell and Desmond are away.

24 Oct 2015 15:13:08
malmo molde maribor d zagreb all teams with smaller bugdets that celtic should be beating even L warsaw ronny sets the team up wrong full backs to far up centre back to high up the only things he got right were against qarabag to clean sheets since then 5 games in europe 11 conceded tactics all wrong wake up and smell the coffee we are going no where fast.

24 Oct 2015 15:53:36
Dn30 come on mate! No other manager could come in and organise the team and stop the utter shambles which is our defence! Do u seriously believe that! Yes we all know the quality ain't there but I'm talking about basic defending and tactics! Which RD to me hadn't clue about! Every half decent team that comes up against us must be rubbing there hands when they see the way we set up! I've got a question for u mate. did Ronnie not say after Legia we will learn from our mistakes? Same after Maribor and Malmo! Yet here we are after another shambles of a performance with nothing learned at all! His words, not anybody else! He says we've got better and we'll learn from the mistakes! Total garbage!

24 Oct 2015 16:07:40
DN maybe u should pull your head out the sand. That's Legia, Maribo, Malmo, and now Molde we have been embarrassed by. Giants of Europe lol.
Not so long ago you were on here berating Lennon for poor results in the CL ffs.
RD does not learn he constantly plays a system that exposes our centre halfs in Europe, even away from home he does it because " we want to play attacking football" how naïve is he.
Even against a counter attacking team he daft enough to have a go and leave us exposed. Time and time again he does it.
Don't give me the " he has not been backed stuff". Yea he would need better backing for CL but not to beat Molde and the others I mentioned.
Tell you what not many managers survive an embarrassing result or 2. He has had 4.

24 Oct 2015 17:06:13
DN30 I would have thought you would be all in favour of the current board, after all they appointed Delia.

24 Oct 2015 17:07:01
Aye whatever. the dross we will see replace Deila if he goes.

24 Oct 2015 18:04:38
DN30 wake up man. We are getting mugged by European also rans. We can't even beat the monies so font hide behind the not backed ticket. He has signed 17 players. our players are better players than they have. RD and Collins said so before the game. Better players worse result. What is the issue its tactics and therefore the manager.

24 Oct 2015 18:57:46
I know all too well the shackles and handicaps Celtic are restrained by under Desmond and Lawell who clearly do not have the same love and true feeling for Celtic as the rest of us, as they feed of the club like parasites.
However, their main sins against Celtic are creaming off our best players to sell for profit and not reinvesting sufficiently in the squad and trusting the team affairs to cheap yes- men who have got us in this situation.

24 Oct 2015 19:15:47
I agree Johnny I am all for a clear out at the club from top to almost bottom. By that I mean from major share holders chief execs coaching staff sub standard players and failing scouts. But I don't believe rd is exempt from criticism. His formation and tactics are so predictable and he has no plan b. The club is moving backwards rapidly and he is part of a group of people who are watching it happen. But I also don't want the guy made a scapegoat for top level Failings.

24 Oct 2015 22:16:58
It is nothing new for Celtic to be mugged by the also rans of Europe, for nearly 30 years we didn't have European Football post Christmas . We cannot let that happen again, but quick turn rounds of the manager is not the answer . If we sack Deila before the end of year, I am sure with the type of manager we are likely to attract will have the same problems next year, we may do a little better, or a little worse.

24 Oct 2015 22:23:22
I don'nt get all this critiscm of Lawwell and the board etc, forget all this stuff about the players being healthier and fitter (of course that is a good thing), the reason that the team has'nt been performing is due to Ronnies team selection, team formation, team tactics, substitutes or lack of them, the players that are at Celtic are good enough to be doing a lot better, Ronnies got their head in a daze, he's been over complicating the simple things and over simplifying the difficult things, they don't know if they're coming or going, footballs a simple game keep it that way.

24 Oct 2015 23:07:26
RD has not been tested in the same way domestically as any other previous manager in our entire history, so he cannot be compared to any previous manager.

HOWEVER, not even getting past the qualifying rounds to get into the CL is not acceptable given the relative resources of the clubs that have managed to knock us out with absolute ease.

From the players right up to the board and the TV companies that run the sport, we can attribute an element of blame. But ultimately, the manager has more than enough at his disposal to be doing much much better. He clearly can't control his players, he clearly has poor judement in picking the right players and worst of all, he never learns from his mistakes.

I feel sorry for him as he was put in place by a board who either couldn't attract a a more experienced manager or who simply wanted to save a few pound. But he can't continue to embarrass our great club like this. He has lost us £25million so far. Can we afford to lose another 10-15million or have some of our fans now resorted to accepting we can't qualify for the CL? Is that where we are now? No faith, just acceptance of continually losing money whilst deluding ourselves we are balancing the books withthe sale of our best players? Is this as good as it gets?

I say they change the signing policy. Guys like VD should not be allowed anywhere near the team. They are merceneries who create instability and undermine our club by heading off to some minow in England for more money. Celtic need to build a team that is made of players who play for what the club is about. that's why its rotten. The soul is ripped out of the team by people like VD, Hooper, Wanyama buggering off for more cash as if the greedy cunts don't get enough. don't give me that shite they need a bigger challenge. Bollocks! If all of these players had stayed, how strong would that team be now and just how much better would we be doing in the CL? But VD, VW, etc etc don't care. The board don't care and quite frankly I wonder why I work my ass of for a relative pittance to invest my time money and energey in a club that endorses this pish makes me fucking sick.

25 Oct 2015 11:19:28
Well, KBB, you didn't mince your words and I fully understand your frustrations. You are spot on about the big stars either using us as a stepping stone to EPL or getting some last minute glory and cash in the twilight of their careers. "I've always been a big fan of Celtic and this is a great chance for me to play for my boyhood heroes. " If he was such a big fan, why did he not play for us when he was at his prime? Money and bigger clubs, that's why. I will even piss off some people by putting king Kenny in that group. He is not a Celtic man, he is a Liverpool man. Big Jock tried to talk him out of signing at the very last turn and he turned him down to sign for Liverpool. (His success at Liverpool was good but imo I could have won trophies with the bqackroom, youth programme and system he inherited. When that dried up he was out) and Only came back because no one else would take him and give him the money to buy the league (AKA Blackburn) and even then, it was Barnes who was thrust into the arena. When that failed and JB was humped KK did nothing to make us better.
Keane and all the others, same pitch about boyhood heroes but first chance to dump us and move for more cash. like rats up a sewer.
Club and policy need ripping up from top down. We are continually treating symptoms and not taking action on the disease.

24 Oct 2015 13:20:30
I would like to ask all other posters and ed 07 if anyone thinks rd would still have been in charge of there was strong competiton domestically. Wether we blame lawell Desmond jc rd jk park ambrose Gordon commons everyone has there opinion. But rd wether his hands are tied or not is reminding me very much of le guen and Mowbray. Trying to change to much to seen. I think with strong competition deila would have been out before now. What's everyone's else's thoughts.

{Ed007's Note - The other week there were CFC supporting posters saying (hoping?) Aberdeen were going to win the league and he's still in charge so that'll be a yes, or is it a bad things that RD's and his team are winning the matches that have put us back on top of the league.

On the 26th October 2014 we were 4th in the league with a record of:

4th in League: Played 10; Won 6; Drew 2; Lost 2; GF 22; GA 7; GD +20; Points 20.

For a fair comparison, on the 16th October this year when we had only played 10 matches our record was:

2nd in League: Played 10; Won 7; Drew 2; Lost 1; GF 25; GA 9; GD +16; Points 23.

1 calendar year on from 26th October and before tomorrow's game we are sitting in 1st place with a record of:

1st in League Played 11; Won 8; Drew 2; Lost 1; GF 26; GA 9; GD +17; Points 26.

Any competition that has been put in front of us in the league has been dealt with and it was nothing to do with competition that we didn't win the treble last year.}

24 Oct 2015 14:29:37
rd has had his chance l warsaw maribor malmo molde aberdeen salzbury d zagreb ict hardly big hitters i ask you this would lenny have got threw those games.

24 Oct 2015 14:37:37
Since 2012 we have been expected to win the title at a canter and in all honesty a lot more cups as well.
The support, players and Board all expected it and there has been a complacency that is very unhealthy.
The club repeatedly sell any half decent players for huge profit while replacing them with mediocrity and the players have played in many games in second gear, while average attendances have dropped through lack of interest.
The result is we have a very average squad - who would never have got near a Celtic jersey in the past - and a succession of untried and inexperienced managers who have been used as cheap figure heads by the board.
The current state of Scottish football shows that a very average Celtic with a cardboard cutout in charge is still a dominant force to a certain extent domestically; but the true reflection is in our European demise.

24 Oct 2015 17:15:13
Ed we are not concerned with his domestic record as the league is a given and so is 1 cup usually.
The only way a Celtic manager can be judged without Rangers is by European football.

{Ed007's Note - Who elected you spokesman to speak for the collective 'we'? Try sticking to your own point of view otherwise you're just following a herd rather than thinking for yourself.
Speaking for myself I want Celtic to win every game they play and feel the exact same disappointment when they lose no matter who the opposition are, we can't do anything about Rangers demise so they are irrelevant to the point.
Are you saying CFC's domestic form hasn't improved on this time last year? Just think how happy the Celtic supporters who thought Aberdeen were going to win the league must be feeling to see us get ahead of them so quickly. Were you spokesman for the 'we' that thought Aberdeen were going to win the league?}

24 Oct 2015 19:32:02
Well ed it was my point and it was regarding domestic football. And his domestic record is pretty good. 92 points last year. And 8 wins from 11 this year so that's a decent enough record. I was merely thinking out loud that he is getting more time because of the lack of domestic competition. But maybe the flip side to that is the guy isn't getting any credit because of no domestic competiton. 92 points last year would've won the league most seasons. But all he can really be judged on is Europe at the moment and he is failing at that level.

{Ed007's Note - For the time he's been in the job I wouldn't say he's failing, he's made some mistakes but he did give us European football after Christmas in his first season in charge. Previous managers haven't done so well at the start of their tenure and yet they've been lauded heroes. Sometimes I find myself wondering what exactly it is some of our support want.}

24 Oct 2015 19:55:39
If your asking me personally i don't want to be brushed aside as easy as we were against bang average sides as Malmö and molde. I am unhappy with the full set up at the moment. And rd is a big part of that. He picks the team, the formation the style of play so he has to be held to account for some of the short falls.

{Ed007's Note - We're putting in good solid performances against Ajax and Fenerbahce then shooting ourselves in the foot basically down to individual mistakes, Malmo was a disgrace and every single player let themselves down there simply by not showing up. I'm look at the Euro matches as a learning curve just now but if I'm honest I'm losing interest in European football.}

24 Oct 2015 20:49:59
Ed tell us why you are losing interest in Eurooean football. Is it because we are useless🙈.

{Ed007's Note - Over the last few seasons I've found it has become monotonous and boring, I get no enjoyment watching players cheating, diving and play acting like whiny little bitches. The competition is corrupt even down to qualification, it's all aimed at making sure the most money goes to the bigger teams. There's very little sporting merit left in the Champions League, that along with the cancer that the EPL is are slowly killing the game for the normal man in the street.}

24 Oct 2015 20:53:41
Well I agree with you mate we were terribly unlucky in both those games but that's football isn't it. If we seen them through and got 6 points or if we took care of Malmö the way we should have at cp when they were caught in the headlights then rd would have been the roaring genius he has been for the last 9 Months or so. There wouldn't be anywhere near the level of questions being levelled at everyone at the moment. But it hasn't happened like that so we are all upset and offering opinion on where the blame lies. That's the way it goes. Everyone seems to agree the clubs in decline through lack of investment so it's probably just as well your getting scunnered with Europe as it doesn't look like that's going to be a big concern for a while.

25 Oct 2015 00:32:35
Seven one I admire your green tinted glasses ( I was once told I wore them ) you were saying there are players playing now that wouldn't have got near the team in the past . I agree some of our players are not great, but remember when we went almost 30 years without having European Football after Christmas, there were players playing then that were not exactly Celtic class and wouldn't get near our average team now .

25 Oct 2015 11:41:37
Spot on Ed about some of the crap we witness in European football.
Player so much as touches another player and he drops like he has been struck by a sledhammer. (No tv evidence allowed to assist the ref)
What is this "Great job of 'shielding' the ball" - Preventing a player from getting near the ball by blocking it with your body for yards at a time to run it out of playused to be againt the rule called obstruction.
Players ganging up around the ref when he gives a penalty or sends someone off. (Man Utd successfully turned that one into a fine art -sorry Ed but my opinion)
Players bleating about being tired having played 2-3 games in 8 days.
Available tried and tested technology being rejected by the powers that be and one man being allowed to decide the fate of teams, managers and players - stinks imo.
Authorities so blatantly corrupt that they have set up the system so that money goes to to the big clubs (dont get me started on a league having 3-4 teams in the Champions League)
We are now seeing just how much corruption there has been at the top level of the conrolling bodies of the sport. I ask the question, if that is what happens at FIFA, EUFA then may I suggest that the National authorities may be next?
Scunnered with European football? I am just about scunnered with football in general.

24 Oct 2015 10:47:01
Read big suttons comments just there and couldn't agree more with him! I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but he hit the nail on the head with so many of his points! The 1st being that the incident with commons has somehow made certain people forget what a horrendous performance that really was on Thursday! Yes commons should have left that for the dressing room! But let's just remember the real issue here eh. that was one of the worse performances I've ever seen from a Celtic team in Europe! No heart no fight and no bloody clue! And it wasn't Madrid or Barcelona we were playin, it was molde! Yes the team that's mid table in Norway! Who's average gate is less than 10 thousand! And like I said in a previous post! This will happen again under RD! I'd put my mortgage on it! So let's please forget commons throwing a strop and talk of getting rid of him! There's 5 men that need to go, and that's the manager Collins and Kennedy! Followed by Lawell and dermot I only talk about Celtic if its to talk pish about the EPL Desmond! These are the r
Real problems! We've a manager who I doubt was even in the top 5 of choices when NL left! And it's showing why that is now!

24 Oct 2015 12:13:17
Ronny to blame deffo. The way he gave the ball away for the first and got beaten at his near post was shocking. And not covering the man at the back stick was terrible, what was he thinking.

24 Oct 2015 13:16:42
As listened to Sutton throughout the match, if it wasn't for his accent I would have been sure it was wee Barry Ferguson . I would imagine we were all disappointed with Thursday night's performance, to put it very mildly it wasn't one of our better nights . Our players and managers deserved some criticism but not the non stop tirade we were subjected too from Sutton .
Sutton failed as a manager at Lincoln city, he had some fantastic games for us, but he chucked it in one day against the Rangers by repeatedly handling the ball on till he was sent off . I don't remember any ex Celtic player giving an over the top rant for that .

24 Oct 2015 13:40:12
Forgive me GJ but what's your point? Does Ronnie pick the team? Does Ronnie train the team? Does Ronnie decide to put ambrose at centre half? Does Ronnie keep telling us we're progressing? Yes is the answer to all these questions! So your attempt at sarcasim is yet another exuse to cover up the fact our manager is out his depth and unable to send a team out to do simple defending and passing! A thing I learned in my boys team!

24 Oct 2015 13:44:46
green jhedi. Ronny coaches and picks the players who are making these mistakes, so he obviously isn't doing a very good job in coaching them.

24 Oct 2015 13:40:18
I agree that RD shouldn't escape criticism from Thursday nights disaster but the players seem to be getting an easy ride in regards to their performance. The same players are continually making the same errors in every game.

24 Oct 2015 14:48:52
Of course it's not easy listening to ex players dishing it out but when the mistakes and poor performances are being repeated game after game it is hard to find any positives.
The current team cannot defend at all - against set pieces, runners or long balls and the goalie is very inconsistent.
We play at a predictable tempo and style and have zero flair, pace or power in attack and we cannot alter our formation or tactics when things go wrong.
Add to this the severe limitations on the bench and it's pretty hard to be enthusiastic at present.

24 Oct 2015 15:01:00
When the team is playing well domestically, why does Ronnie change it about for the european games, why does'nt he treat every domestic game as a dress rehearsal for the toughest european game imaginable, get a settled defence, that's used to playing together, the way he changes it about at the back is ridiculous.

24 Oct 2015 15:19:26
@ DH30; When you heard the team on Thursday like me you would thought that was enough. What were the choices? Would you have trusted Blackett? Not even Mulgrew available. Shuffle Lustig in one? Who at right back, Janko? another small defender at a back post. The point i am trying to make is his choices were limited. Until the new boy settles in we will be troubled by any team running at us with pace. Hearts midweek will be a real stern test. This game makes tomorrow vital. We all need to turn up and get a right good display heading to embra.

24 Oct 2015 09:45:40
Well I've got to laugh at some of the posters on here. It is now finally time for Desmond and Liewell to go? I've been saying that for the last few years on here and have been shot down on every occasion. A blind man could see this was the path that we were heading for, and if we don't get change it will get even worse! I really hope that the change starts on Sunday with a very low attendance and continuous chants of SACK THE BOARD! I would love to hear that, even just for the fact that it's not only me singing it myself! Big club they tell us. Don't make me laugh, team are less than average and most weeks were lucky to get 30,000 supporters. Sevco get more support than that some weeks. The time is now guys to get this mob out let's not waste it. Hail Hail.

24 Oct 2015 10:55:38
I am probably part of the problem, in that I don't like the way the club is run, but I go to the matches and cheer the team on.
I think it sounds good shouting Sack the board, but who sacks a board, there is no people above them that can terminate their contracts, they hold all the aces.
The only way as I can see for things to change, is for people with the club at heart, who would be willing to offer the sort of money that The current board could not turn down.
You can argue whether boycotting matches would help bring this about, but unless there are people behind the scenes who would be willing to take the club on, then this current regime unfortunately is going nowhere, however much we complain.

24 Oct 2015 10:55:38
I am probably part of the problem, in that I don't like the way the club is run, but I go to the matches and cheer the team on.
I think it sounds good shouting Sack the board, but who sacks a board, there is no people above them that can terminate their contracts, they hold all the aces.
The only way as I can see for things to change, is for people with the club at heart, who would be willing to offer the sort of money that The current board could not turn down.
You can argue whether boycotting matches would help bring this about, but unless there are people behind the scenes who would be willing to take the club on, then this current regime unfortunately is going nowhere, however much we complain.

24 Oct 2015 13:59:50
Gerry the board know fine well that the fans are not happy. However they will have a certain amount of foot traffic that require through the doors to break even. Should the numbers keep dropping they will reach this point and need to take action!! The time is now

24 Oct 2015 14:06:58
Many people are calling for the heads of D D and Peter Lawwell, unfortunately we need someone with big pockets to rid us of D D, we should be looking for that. man and encouraging him to become our money man . It could be a long search .
Getting rid of PL is a different matter, the board sack him, he works his notice, or goes on gardening leave and the club employs a replacement .
Are we any better off, won't we still have to work to a budget, won't the manager still have to employ the correct tactics and have a fit determine team prepared to do their damnest for the club .
Will D D and P L 's replacements have a great effect on the team, will it be for the better or for the worse, wifi the new major minority share holder want more of a return on his recently invested money
We don't know, I think it might be a risk not worth taking.

24 Oct 2015 23:16:53
Old boy we need to act now, are you suggesting we sit back and let the board sell the Crown Jewels year on year?

25 Oct 2015 00:48:48
Sack the board, u want action now, do you know the people with more money than sense who is prepared to spend millions buying ou D D .
That's the starting point, any man who has that sort of money will be aware that there is and will be no money to be made in Celtic whilst we play in the SPL .

If you have that man lined up, we can start doing things, before that we are only day dreaming .

{Ed007's Note - C'mon, Chris, he's only giving an opinion on what he wants to see happen, so if nobody knows anyone richer than DD he's not allowed to pass his opinion?
To the same extent you don't know STB to comment, he could be a PR plant to gauge supporters opinions for an interested party - until you know otherwise who are you to rebute and make demands on other posters? You've been doing so well too.}

24 Oct 2015 02:12:24
Ronny is the head coach! Ffs he doesn't sign the players (unfortunately its Park and Lawwell) . The sooner fans realise that the manager and us fans are being treated like shite the better. Ronny had 2 hands, a leg and his balls tied behind his back (and tied together ad well) . PS Commons in name and nature. sack him for gross misconduct.

24 Oct 2015 02:37:03
PS. Commons is the most selfish player I have seen in years..shoot, shoot, shoot not for a win its all about personal glory IMO

24 Oct 2015 08:39:24
I'm still raging from Thurs night, and then the first thing I read this morning is that Leigh Griffiths thinks the fans were too hard on the team when they were getting on the bus in Molde, he said the criticism went to far, he said he could hear it before they went out the ground so just put his headphones on and ignored it. Between that and Commons, who's behaviour was a disgrace, especially the amateur psychology when pointing to the fans and trying to use them against Deila. You would think he's some sort of Demi-God, instead he is just an average player, who probably wouldn't get a game for any team in the English Premier League. And as if all that wasn't bad enough, we have Anthony Stokes sitting at home (fit) in front of his computer saying everything's cool! Instead of spending thousands every year watching this crap I think I might just stay home, sit in front of my computer, put my headphones on and live in a fantasy world also. I've always backed Ronny, but he has to sort this all out now. If there is a problem with Collins, or any other coaches he has to sort it, and get someone like Paul Hartley in who has a bit of passion. Ed, you mentioned that there might be a bit of an atmosphere between Brown and Collins still, I hadn't heard that, I was just assuming it was the usual suspects who don't like putting in the hard work at training and can't leave quick enough that were freaking out because they were getting shown up! Anyway Deila has to step up now, troublemakers in a dressing room are like a cancer, he also has to drop players - Boyata has been a disgrace, Izzy can't be trusted, get Teirney in now, and buy a defensive left back in Jan. We should try Bailley. Scott Brown's passing hasn't improved in 10 years. I wouldn't even have GMS on the bench the way he's playing, I'd try Nesbitt. Johansen needs a few weeks on the bench. If he can't handle these sort of decisions, if he's going to let Commons act like that, because he took a liberty knowing everyone was watching, and because he knew he could, so if Ronny can't show who's boss then we will need to make a change, I really hope it doesn't come to that though!

24 Oct 2015 12:31:36
Delphic
That was an outstanding post.
Best of the year IMVHO
Applause.

24 Oct 2015 12:48:16
Delphic I don't often agree with your posts but I am 100% behind you on that one.

24 Oct 2015 13:36:40
I agree but I think the job is still too big for RD.
He is too naive and trusting in the wrong people and there are too many at the club who are not giving 100%.
Where else would a manager of a huge club have no say in his assistants or his transfer strategy and budget?
From the start of this campaign it has also been obvious that several players are deliberately under performing or excluding themselves in one form or another and this filters through the ranks and can only have a negative impact.

24 Oct 2015 14:26:58
Seven one . In what way are we a huge club . Ok we win a whole go of domestic leagues and cups, but wait a minute Scotland isn't really a top centre of excellence for football anymore . We had a wonderful spell in European football 60/70' s but we have really fallen since then . How many consecutive years without European football after Christmas? 28? Not really a huge club .