Celtic Banter Archive November 24 2014

 

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24 Nov 2014 21:03:49
Was reading Xavi s views on our support which got me looking at other top players comments down the years . I know lots on here couldn't give a damn about this kind of thing and to be honest although it's pleasing to hear it wouldn't make any difference to myself either, BUT the one thing that's consistant in what they say is (in full flow celtic park is THEE place to be on European nights) so come on all you bhoys n ghirls let's get out and support the bhoys on Thursday night for all we know and I hope I'm wrong but it could be our best chance at getting through to next round and give us more of Europe in the new year plus it could just show young Mr guidetti what's on offer from US THE FANS cheers

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Thursday is a big test of our support. Guidetti and Denyer have both commented on how they would like to see the place full, let's hope we can give them it. Anything under forty odd thousand will, for me, be disappointing.

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24 Nov 2014 22:11:13
Can't see it tbh will be lucky if it's 30/35,000 Fans just don't seem bothered about going 2 see the europa league which makes it even more annoying when they are quick enough 2 comment on if we play poor or make a mistake when they clearly aren't interested enough 2 go. I know not everyone has the money and other obligations I understand that as a can't get 2 every game either but can't tell me more than a quarter of the stadium are skint or are busy any thu night it's a home game lol more people ask what channel our games on these days rather than asking about tickets but we all know the semi final against that mob will be jam packed

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If the stadium is only half full then I think everyone at the match needs to make the noise of two people to create the Celtic Park atmosphere .
The team needs it especially on Thursday night .

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25 Nov 2014 11:35:59
If the stadiums half full then its a sell out because the top tiers shut

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Naw Stevie, the South stand has no top tier so there could be 40,000 approx. without opening top tier . If enough tickets were sold this week I am sure at least some of the top tier would be open . Come 8.05 on Thursday the only thing that is important is that everyone in Celtic Park make as much noise as possible, so that the fans will play their part in getting the victory.

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25 Nov 2014 21:37:33
Anyone know what the bottom tier holds? Obviously including the main stand I reckon about 34,000 max

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24 Nov 2014 20:09:26
Rayman I think its a difficult subject t.bs.team as celtic manager played some great attractive football but winning I believe only the Scottish cup against Airdrie in three years in charge and this in his first season as manager.supporters of any top football team will want results first and foremost.winning league and cups will buy Ronny the time needed to get Celtic both winning and with an attractive style of football.

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24 Nov 2014 19:34:34
I had my say on the living wage in earlier post and reckon more needs to be done politically to address poverty wages.people who go to work deserve a wage that gives them self respect as well as paying the bills and having to rely on government top ups to make ends meet is wrong.the Tories would have us believe that paying the living wage would make matters worse by causing unemployment which is complete rubbish as they said the same about the minimum wage which was proved wrong.

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Of course it's political. However the club should adopt the right stance. Not whinge that they are being used. The people in question, ie, those working in catering, are these people not provided by agencies that cater for other events, concerts etc?

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Whats really astonishing is the fact people IN WORK are using food banks. FFS it's the 21st century!

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24 Nov 2014 19:24:35
I wasn't at the game on sat but by all accounts it was poor according to poll and RD himself. Is it just possible the players are not capable of doing what he asks. A big part of coaching is assessing players ability and planning accordingly. I remember the great late Tommy burns saying he made a huge mistake at Reading where he was training the players a certain way and getting them to play that way. It wasn't till he lost the job that he realised the players were just not capable and should have coached them otherwise.Maybe with additions its possible but there is no guarantee.I wonder if fans will still back this type of football if we still playing like this come the end of the season.Even with a treble in the bag would you still be happy watching this and unless sevco come up attendances will be low as qualifying to CL will be very difficult.It doesn't bear to think what it would be like with no CL or sevco next season and we still playing the same.

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24 Nov 2014 21:11:48
If he won a treble I think people would be crazy to criticise the style. It's becoming a theme that if Celtic don't hump teams 3 and 4 nil people are still on RDs case about it. Winning the treble ugly will do for me every time. Playing with flair and samba style but only winning the league and out of both cups won't do for me. And the league should be a given now and for the next few years so for me; keep the 3 points coming.

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Dont you think he should be judged after the January window? Then we can see who he brings in and how well he will be backed.

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24 Nov 2014 18:35:55
The papers are continuing with this 5million fee for Guddetti Edd, I know he could turn out to be a top class striker but is that not a bit steep for a boy who's only really starting his career and has only 6 months left on his contract in January. Is that just a figure plucked out of the air and do you really think city will demand that much? Cheers markie

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{Ed007's Note - I don't know if £5m is the agreed fee but even if it is I reckon it's a fair enough price from an EPL team. What I'm thinking is that IF it's a standard option to buy we can sign Guidetti at any time, we've got a head start on everyone else interested and he could sign a 4 1/2 year deal tomorrow.}

I'm just being greedy. I'm wanting him for nothing and the 5 mill on a center mid and or left winger. 5 mill would be be an investment anyway as I think he will problably move on in a couple of years for double that. Cheers. Markie

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Do you think City have asked for 5m ed? I'm with Markiebhoys and think it's a bit pricey for us and I can't see Lawwell paying that. He's opened his mouth a couple of times about the price of player we could afford to sign and if any one ever ticked all the boxes it's Guidetti.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm not convinced with the £5 million figure, I'd have had a guess at round about the £2-3 million mark but like I say £5m isn't much for a striker coming from an EPL club. Who would you rather sign, Guidetti for £5 million or Ross McCormack for £11 million?}

Wud it mot make sense ed to say to the boy if you want to sign then do a pre contract in Jan then we get him for buttons and we can use some of the 5m on his wages/signing on fee then everybody wins.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't think the agreed fee is £5 million, maybe that was the price to buy him in the summer window. If the fees agreed and the option to buy is included as part of the loan contract, I'm guessing it is otherwise it is a strange move, we can sign Guidetti now even before he has the chance to speak to other clubs in January.}

24 Nov 2014 14:33:58
I had a great wee day oot yesterday with the wee man. I'm from aviemore, we have an annual Celtic fans v rangers fans game that raises a few quid for local charities, the standard ranged from highland league (semi pro) to young lads who don't get an 11 aside game, and a few 9/10 year olds were thrown on in the second half to. A celtic/rangers quiz was held after the game in the pub and the teams of 4 had to be mixed, 2 from each team. (my team won!) it was great craic and not a bit of trouble, a lot of boys playing are from the Glasgow area and are now living up here and they loved it, they all said it wouldn't happen 'doon the road'. Has anyone else got anything like that or similar happening where they are from? Markie

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I think every expat would have similar stories markiebhoy, fans mixing no bother at all. good to hear about it.
I'm afraid glasgow seems to be home to a fair share of Neanderthals (on both sides) that ruin it for everyone.if you llok it from the outside sure there should be rivalry but can't we also celebrate that a city the size of glasgow has/had two world wide renowned clubs?

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24 Nov 2014 07:23:39
OMG! Give it a rest with all this living wage BS! I am totally with the board here. They have recognised (about time, I agree) that permanent employees should be given this. OF COURSE they should. However, please don't EVER try to tell me that 'employees' who are in the food kiosks, or people who sell programmes have no other income!?!?!?!?! TOSH. The ghuys in the superstore and all other outlets will be recognised because they are mainstream outlets. What next? A wage for the bhoy/ghirl that stands with a collection tin? Annoyed.

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{Ed001's Note - seriously? You think it is ok to pay people a lower rate of pay simply because they have to have another job to make ends meet? That has to be the most imbecilic comment ever posted on any of our sites ever. Everyone should be paid a rate that enables them to make a living wage if they do a standard 40 hour week. Perhaps you fail to understand what a living wage is? Or perhaps you are just a selfish idiot who doesn't give a monkey's about other people? I don't know, but either way, no one should be paid below a living wage.}

What absolute shhhh you are talking mate. EVERYBODY is entitled to a fair days pay for a fair days work or are you just bloody ignorant?

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I don't know what the figures would be, but I can't imagine that any major club couldn't pay the living wage if they really wanted to.
You would think that if they cut one squad player who never gets a game, [every club usually has one] then the wages saved would cover the cost.

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I agree with Davie, why's it Celtics responsibility to pay all part time staff a living wage of £7.85. If the government don't increase the minimum wage it's not law. Any business owner or manager will understand this. The minimum wage for anyone under 18 is £3.79, that's double the wages for someone that's got a wee part time job serving pies and bovril. Do people seriously think that's right? I remember working for £40 a week when I left school.

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24 Nov 2014 12:54:22
Called in to my daughters yesterday and picked up the sun newspaper she had, and couldn!t believe the back page headline Lenny feels for ally or something along those lines and started to read the story, I'm sorry Lenny any respect I had for you is gone after lavishing praise on that toad especially after what he did to you at celtic park.I thought you were better than that Lenny, I'm so disappointed .killy.

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Just a wee question, why isn't the minimum wage not the living wage . Hasn't the Labour Government and the Tories been wrong having a difference .

Pls don't read the Sun newspaper because the only place it tells the truth is on the top of the page, day and date.

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What a selfish attitude. We live in a country where 50 thousand people rely on foodbanks and you think it's ok to pay people £4 an hour because of a particular job though do. Of course the government is bang out of order but that doesn't give celtic an excuse to pay anybody that kind of wage. Markie

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Ive got to say what a disgusting attitude OP. My niece is one of the food folks on match day and yes that is her only income, let me know what your wearing next match day and her and her pals will do you a special pie. HH joe

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{Ed007's Note - If your business isn't doing well enough to pay everyone a decent wage then your business isn't doing as good as you think

I don't see how Celtic can't pay it, they are (what I would class) a big, profitable employer.

I can see how a small business might struggle with a rising wage bill but this is Celtic. I don't know the ins and outs of the contractors Celtic use for catering etc or their costs so its difficult to pass comment.

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this *isn't Celtic

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Markiebhoy, I didn't think any employer was paying as little as £4 per hour except for people learning the job or those under 18.
The biggest exploitation of labour is not not paying the living wage but is zero contract hours . I believe Celtic are guilty of this and we should be questioning this practice.

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