Celtic Banter Archive June 24 2013

24 Jun 2013 22:25:43
Hey Ed- long time no speak!

Have I missed anything?

daviet {Ed007's Note - Hi Davie, long time indeed. If I had kept notes of what you missed I would have had a 2 bit book deal and cancelled newspaper serialisation to my name (but I would have had the Guinness deal sewn up)! I hope you are keeping well mate, nice to see you kicking around again.}

25 Jun 2013 10:57:35
Hey Daviet welcome back, at least you have survived longer than your downmarket south side club. hail hail Timalloy

24 Jun 2013 19:35:55
Does anyone know if Germinal Beerschot will receive a percentage of the fee if we sell Wanyama? {Ed007's Note - There has been no mention of it.}

I don't think it would matter even if there had been a sell-on clause in the deal. The club doesn't exist any more.
Let's just say they "did a Sevco"! lol

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

Yep, they have sell on clause

Ska bhoy {Ed007's Note - Who is due the money due too though?}

25 Jun 2013 10:59:29
ED007 according to reports there is a 5% sell on clause.
I hope if (when) we sell big Vic we insert a sell on clause too. Timalloy {Ed007's Note - His original team/club Germinal Beerschot no longer exist Tim.}

24 Jun 2013 18:16:08
Does anyone know pubs in nice, France that'll show the game against cliftonville

Ma Nolans, Cours Saleya (flower market) should have it if on tv etc. I'll be there myself!

24 Jun 2013 14:05:15
Milan defender 20 yo Mattio de Sciglio, currently playing on left wing for Italy in confederations is on �1m a year, that's about £13k a week. Made some tidy defensive tackles against Brasil.
Old RFC were bringing guys like that to ibrox. Now we've got the money.

Mate if you are talking £s, 1m a year is over 19, 200 per week . if you are talking euro , converts to around £16, 500 per week .
and that's before n.i . insurance, pension plans, win bonuses . a lot of money for a 20 year old . shammy

It was a million euros shammy. Today's rate £16, 297 a week.
But we need to spend bigger and think bigger over these years without SEVCO. We have supposedly £25m from last CL to invest in squad. A better squad hopefully last 16 again.

LOL. Mattia De Sciglio is one of the most promising full-backs in world football who is fast becoming a mainstay in the AC Milan team. He is playing left wing-back, not left wing. If you knew anything about football you'd see that yourself though. If you are suggesting Celtic go for him, I suggest you increase your medication.

De Sciglio can play left back. Seen him play there for Milan. If your suggesting he's a left wing back but can't play left full back your embarrassing yourself. I will at least agree he's way beyond our reach as Milan have ver high hopes for him. Possibly there highest rated prospect as El Shaarawi might be sold according to Gallliani.

He is a left back end of! He is being touted as the new Maldini! No chance of him going anywhere other than up

Tompo88

I know he's a left-back you clown. What I said was he is not playing "left wing" for Italy as suggested by the OP. He is playing left wing-back as Italy play with three centre backs and wing-backs. He started as a right-back but Abate plays there, so for AC Milan he plays left-back. Simple really.

24 Jun 2013 11:16:41
The issue with Hooper is he can remain at paradise and continue to enjoy himself and CL football, albeit for lower weekly wage than elsewhere, but he makes it up massively next summer as a free agent and pockets his own £5m signing on fee for four years. Celtic getting nothing.
Hooper is in the strong position as his football has put him in demand. He wins every possible way; staying and signing on, going now or running contract down to next year.
Regardless, we want him to stay and we thank him for three great years service.

Agree on the service bit.But if he won't sign an extension then he must not start ahead of any other forward we have this season.Sign and go in the summer for a fee, or go this window.he must not be allowed to go pre contract in jan. green jhedi

The problem GJ is that there is not a lot Celtic can do about it if he wants to be an awkward sod. He could in theory sit where he is until January and sign a pre-contract agreement with someone else. He wouldn't be the first player to do it and he wouldn't be the last either. He might see it as the perfect chance to make a financial killing. And the club couldn't stop him either. The club cannot make him do anything in this situation. They can make him stay until next year, but they can't make him go in this window.
We are about to find out if Hooper is a mercenary or someone who cares about the club. He is not bound by anyone to do anything so he carries a lot of clout regarding what happens.
Remember, players do not tend to be as passionate about a club as it's fans are, unless the player is also a fan and I don't ever remember Hooper claiming to be a lifelong Celtic fan. He sees the club as his employer at the end of the day. If he goes down the route of financial gain then it will hurt the club financially and the fans emotionally but he is entitled to do it. He signed a contract and if he honours it by staying until the end and then walks away then he isn't doing anything wrong.
For me though, the ideal situation would be that he signs a new deal and stays long term. I like him.

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

It could go the other way, if Hooper stays' then the premier will be too easy for celtic, and some of the players may not perform the way they would if the league was competitive, dare I say it, get knocked out of Europe, we need a strong league, and we just don, t have it, We I.m afraid we are the weakest league in Europe, I would sell hooper now, and get some return, for him,,, just a thought,

A player sitting on the payroll not getting a game for a season isn't good for either party. Sign up another three years or go now for £5m.

Id punt him on first decent bid that comes in, he don't wanna be here, ain't done much in the jersey since feb. bhoywonder

@ 4)
I agree 100% but it has happened. We'll have to wait and see how it transpires over then next few days or weeks. I think £4m or more has to be a good deal for the club. If he still had 2 or more years left then I think it would take a lot more for the club to be tempted to sell him but let's remember, the board are shrewd cookies. It is because of them we are financially secure and healthy so they really don't need me or anyone else to tell them how things have to be with transfer fees! lol They know better than any of us how it works.
I do think he will leave though. His pitch-side interview after the Cup final said a lot about his intentions when he was asked if he was looking forward to more days like that at Celtic.

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

@ChrisBhoy: Your right mate, the balls in his court.What I was saying was that if he does not leave, and it will only be if he does not fancy what's on offer, then he should be back up. We will, at least, have Balde and Watt, with young Atajic as the third striker. In my opinion all should be picked before a player who is planning on leaving and depriving us of a fee.

This is not meant to be a dig at Hooper.The guy has scored a lot of goals and been a good signing.He will leave with my best wishes.But he cannot be allowed to postpone the advancement of our younger players.green jhedi

What if he signs up for an additional three, but gets it written in he can go from next summer and get a % of the transfer fee wherever he goes. Another club buying out a 3 year contract would have to pay more, £8m?, and both hooper and Celtic benefit.

24 Jun 2013 10:55:59
Here are a list of our possible opponents in todays draw, this is direct from UEFA.

FH Hafnarfj�rdur (ISL)
The New Saints FC (WAL)
Sligo Rovers FC (IRL)
Cliftonville FC (NIR)
FC Daugava Daugavpils (LVA)
JK N�mme Kalju (EST)

I would like The New Saints or Sligo Rovers both would be good away trips.

CeltStu

23 Jun 2013 23:38:27
Would like to see ezequil scarione sign. mid playmaker for st gallan .two footed scores goals can also play second striker . deep river bhoy

Im glad he has two feet. In my experience I've always found this helps a lot in football.

MgC