Celtic Banter Archive June 23 2012

23 Jun 2012 23:14:51
Alright guys, byars here. The more I look at things the more I start to worry the makny mob are going to get away with this! Parachute them into the 1sd division? Who's kidding who folks? Get them feck! It means sooooo much more too have a fair competitive league where no ones cheating! get these c***s into the 3rd division no questions asked! Hail hail! F**k the so called people!

Byars

Conspiracy theorists to the end....lol. Listen son, there is no more Rangers. You've won. My question to you , who do you blame now ?

Byars, they have already got away with it, allowed to buy back their staium, training pitch and car park all for £5.5m! That is a disgrace these assets should have been put on an open market, that way the creditors would have got back more money. Instead there sold off in a bundle to Green and sod the creditors. Them being liquidated is another fly move, that way they can come back effectivley debt free, and can then enlist McColl, Park etc to fund new players.

They should be treated like every new club they should have to ask to gain entry to the SFL at the very bottom ie Div3. Not be allowed to go to Div1. If you are a div1 team and had spent big this season in order to get promotion how happy would you be that zombie rangers could stop you getting promoted?

I'm glad the players are leaving as maybe that will serve as some kind of punishment. The newco would have ended up selling them anyway and making more than what they bought the club for!

This whole episode stinks and yet no remorse or apology from "the people" about the mess they have created in scottish football.

They have lied and cheated to every football fan in this country, sporting integrity should be paramount in all our thinking. www.splsurvey.co.uk Please fill this in!

DazzaBhoy
@darrenwreid

Theres absolutely no doubt zombie rangers have unleashed a massive campaign

23 Jun 2012 22:31:48
hi all, read on stv news web page, sally moaning about players talking about leaving as their contracts are being moved to the newco, he's saying they should show the club (old club) the same loyalty the club (old club) showed them lol. this is the same guy who was leaving just last week, does pot kettle black spring to mind?

What loyalty?,he's just another mercenary that stands by a dying facade for bigotry and triumphalism.
His face told his true feelings on the day rankers went 15 points ahead,no self-composition just an overt bigoted grin that explained away his football managers veil.I kinda hope this season will bring
a return to the game we all love without the stench of the spectre that's been hanging over our game
since minty moonbeams took over the cauldron of hate.Does any body think that castle greyskull will ever be bigot free ?

Ironic (or poetic justice) considering the way they have treated Rapid Vienna and Hearts over transfer fees.

23 Jun 2012 21:41:41
wish could stick 2 transfer rumours sick ae readin aboot rangers {Ed007's Note - We can only edit and post what is sent in.}

Transfer rumours are boring. Rangers dead. Football is back !

23 Jun 2012 19:27:08
For our latest bear Troll.... POB

On your Rangers Media they have listed 5 (yes FIVE) famous fans, on
Celtic Hub they listed 100 before stopping.
So POB name us just 10 people that we would recognise as being ex fans
of your defunct club...
Timalloy
PS there is a time limit of 2 years LOL

@timalloy: theres a great you tube clip of rangers famous fans.You should check this nonsense out,its hilarious!Talk about straw clutching ..........green jhedi

Rather sad and pathetic, my clubs got more famous fans than your club, I can pee farther than you, my winky is bigger than yours, dear oh dear

Cannonfodder

I can't think of anyone who is an Ex fan Tim.
Apart from being completely trivial and childish,what is the point of your post?
P.O.B.

Give Tim an answer. The two posters above are procrastinating and full of waffle. Give us names. Tell the truth for once!

Bankie Bhoy

You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!

Cannonfodder

Well its either ex-fans of rangers or fans of ex-rangers.

23 Jun 2012 17:42:08
the young lad rhys mccabe that done us in when rangers played us refused to sign for newco, would love to sign him as a player and to stick a nail in the coffin of them :P

Lets keep it sane here.Against us he was nothing exceptional,looked a good player but was given far too much space.In the return game he looked like a juvenile player as we were on it that day.he,s got a chance,lacks pace for me,but has a long way to go..........green jhedi

Exactly GJ why are Celtic fans even mentioning the club formerly known as Rangers, they're gone and won't be missed, any half decent players they had will be off in next few weeks to champioship clubs in England, i've probably been to 40 or 50 old firm games in the past 20 years and yes great atmosphere but feel it's lost a bit of it's passion in recent years, maybe more down to me gettin older. What i do know what gets the place rocking is Euro nights , mind Nakas free kick v Man u , Boruc saving from Saha pen, Mc d last min winner v AC , Thommos winner against Barca, Henriks first min strike v Liverpool, Suttons volley v Juve, Big Hartsons clincher at Anfield, could go on and on ,we don't need the club formerly known as Rangers and the vileness that goes with them.....Stevie

The problem you have now stevie is your team is gash compared to martin o'neill teams, you will have no opposition for the league, so you will get pumped in Europe.

23 Jun 2012 15:56:55
here you bucket heed tell me thit ranjurs the huvnae made a bolloks wae thur direct debit info so thir thur seezun tiket monie isne goin intae thur auld accoont so iz the wee cournur shoap jist mite get mer thin 9p in the pun,if only thur wiz a waey tae get the accont no's n the soart codes hmmmmmmmmm,
"hullo craigo how ye hingin wee chap fancy ah pint tae go owur auld times ffks pal wuv aw mist ye, aye ok ma sun 20 mins doon the heid bbfn wallit? ye wulne need it mate jist bring yursel,thats thanks enuff!"
whits that abba song monie monie monie, isnae fanny n ah rich mans wuruld.....

23 Jun 2012 15:43:56
a little song that has "shamed" them for yours lyrics are changed ofcourse to amuse us tims
hello hello you were the silly boys
hello hello can no longer hear your noise
you were upto your knees in ebts
surrendered now youve died
now good riddance silly boys

23 Jun 2012 15:09:16
My oh my, just read Ally's statment.

Is he for real ? Fan pleaser of a statment & a oh please, please keep me as the manager. A couple of his quotes:-

'I already know there are agents touting my players all over the United Kingdom, so let's be brutally honest'

'After all that the club and the fans have gone through, the supporters, above all, deserve the truth and should not have to listen to stories trying to sugar-coat the possible departure of players from the club'

There's rumours everyday from every club on the planet of players leaving, do we not all 'deserve the truth'

Mrs E

@Mrs E: I find McCoist to be pretty much a laughing stock to be honest.Since last season,out of two euro competitions,out of two domestic cup competitions and a fifteen point(with two games in hand for Celtic)league lead overhauled,he has been working to his own agenda.His"we dont do walking away" quote raises one question for me: Just where would you go ally? Five years working under the Cardigan and thats not much of a record in your first year.I think he realised this so playing the legend card worked well for him.The whole resigning fiasco,the backing of walter and now the criticism of players,with families to look after lets not forget,is once again pandering to the masses.All this and we have not touched on the "clarity and transparency" nonsense regarding SFA panels. I get the feeling this could end in ally having a rather tawdry exit..........green jhedi

Might have been better to have posted the statement Mrs E?? Context and all that?
Ally's simply asking for some respect and openess from the players,mentioning that IF reports are true,none of them have spoken to him about it. Nothing more.
And yes, we all do deserve the truth. Hopefully one day we will know conclusively who the major players were in running our club into the ground.
Rangers fans want and are entitled to see these people punished more than anyone else,we all held a bigger stake in the club.
Everyone else just wants our demise. From that perspective we don't owe anyone else anything. You could try appealing to DM and CW's softer side though.lol
P.O.B.

A bit harsh on his managerial record GJ is it not?
It's the guy's first year in the job for ffs.
Took NL two years and 3 seasons.
Also according to Celtic fans you's blew it last season. Did wee Neilly not work under MON for a while too?
Bit of a comparison to be made don't you think?
Maybe the only difference is that Ally is an RFC legend,and NL a Celtic one,is that it GJ?
P.O.B.

Agreed GJ..I'll be the first to admit, i actually didn't mind Ally but he has really shown himself in a bad light with all this. I remember saying to a good friend of mine, this guy is actually starting to come across as really fly particulary after the whole whispering incident.

He's had 6 yrs under WS both at Rangers and Scotland, he ain't no rookie. NL had no such luck.

Why on earth would players who are used to playing at a certain level want to step down a good bit. Footballers don't have a long career...I think he's the one betraying 'his' players ~ Mrs E

Well said Mrs E and GJ.

What really p1sses me of about this excuse for a human being is how he has crawled up the backside of every pretender involved in Oldco and Newco.

He made several statements about his total trust for Whyte when everyone else know Whyte was "at it", he must have been sh@gging Bill Miller, was having an orgy with the Blue Knights and now just loves Charles Green, since Wattie has walked away, but was doing his utmost to cause a scene for Green on the day Wattie made his fakeover bid.

McCoist is only interested in one thing in life .......... his overweight self.

This is the man who approached Murray with two other Scottish Rangers players and said he didn't want Mo Johnston signing for Rangers because he was a Catholic.

This is the man who in 1994 publicly stated about Celtic's near downfall "I can't say I'm not enjoying it"

We all sawwhat did did to provoke Lennon at Celtic Park.

We all heard him demand the names of the SFA panel when they were alreday known to Rangers.

If anything sums up what is bad, stinks and is rotten to the core about Oldco Rangers ........ this thing that is known as McCoist does.

K-Dot.

Ally McCoist ex player and ex manager's full statement

www.rangers.co.uk/news/football-news/article/2820089

Mrs E

Thanks Mrs E! Lol.
P.O.B.

McCosit is a total w@nker.

He says that in his first year he has strived to show the players respect and now he is asking them to show respect.

Eh, correct me if I'm wrong Ally, but were you not briefing your pet media poodles that Green was wanting to sack you ........ just at the time Wattie was making his fakeover bid.

Where is the respect to the current owner of Newco Rangers there Mr McMoist.

Unbelievable, McCoist is just a snake in the grass with no moral compass.

K-Dot.

K-Dot I thought McCoist would have been quite good with the media (granted I based this on Question Of Sport) but he's actually one level above Barry Ferguson.

Neil Lennon is much better as a studio guest, radio guest and when he was speaking of issues such as depression. I'm betting the media love his post match reactions as well.

McCoist is looking for nothing more than to be hero worshipped.

Mrs E

Spot on Mrs E, McCosit is just in it for himself. That's the type of charcter that tend to do well on Question of Sport. Just look at the two tw@ts in the Captain's Chairs now.

When McCoist speaks, he has an alterior motive.

His demands to know the names of the 3 panel members was disgusting. He was trying to intimidate both them and the upcoming Appellate hearing. He was trying to scare them with the Oldco mob.

Andrew Dickson was at the meeting when the verdict was delivered and as such knew who the 3 panel members were.

I could just about give McCosit the benefit of the doubt if he had been asked a question unsuspectingly by a news reoprter. However, it was an interview on Rangers Media. It would have been carefully orchestrated so it would have been fully planned out. I have no doubt that the content of any interview at this time would also have to be sanctioned by Duff & Phelps.

The cheecky chappy image has been shattered to show the true character that lies beneath.

When Lennon speaks, he is class. He has his faults, which he needs to overcome, and at times frustrates me. But this is all part of his learning process and he has had to put up wiyth so much. The difference is that Lennon is honest and can be taken at face value.

He was very brave to talk so openly about his depression and I'm sure that that will have helped others to cope in some small way.

K-Dot.

@POB: Harsh? I dont think so.He had the most expensive squad in the SPL,and had a lead gifted to him in the league due to Celtics bad run.Neil lennon won the Scottish cup in his first full season while rebuilding the squad completely.I dont recall Lenny working under O'Neill,he played under him.McCoist,at scotland and rangers had nearly six years experience of management.Some fans might think Celtic blew it,not me.Football is a strange game,one bad bounce,one error and your toasted. Both Hampden games we could have won,nut we did not,thats football.But none of this can be used to disguise the fact McCoist has lots to prove in management,or because he's a legend will you let him stay forever?.........green jhedi

@ pob. Neil took over from an admitted debacle. Hes turned it around against the most intense pressure. Ally now has it all to do.

GJ. He also lost his strikeforce.
Jelavic and Naismith were a big loss.
We had to see out the season with Little and Mculloch for goodness sake.
We were really only 9 points ahead if you factor in the games in hand.
Sonny Aluko came in and done a job,but i still believe despite Celtic's fantastic run,if Jelavic and Naismith were available we would have won the league. I also think wee Craigo's actions had a bearing on things.
Okay the cup competititions were a disaster,but i think champions league came too early for Ally.
The guy deserves another crack at least.
Only this time winning the spl wont be a pre requisite. A few years learning from his own mistakes can only benefit him. I can only speak for myself but i think he deserves the chance. CFC fans were rady to offload NL if he had'nt won the title last season.
The nine point deficit,was only three wins. Anyone can hit a bad run of form.
Given our problems last season, Ally and the players did okay.Celtic only finished ten points ahead in real terms. Despite our problems that's three wins and a draw. Keep it real.
P.O.B. {Ed007's Note - POB I expected better of you than the points argument mate. Rangers and McCoist blew it BIG time, as for your injuries argument CFC lost Izzy and Kayal.... they would have played in the majority of games and we still overturned a 15 points deficit and won the league. Remember the 'Mind The Gap' jokes? How did that work out, that gap is now a chasm, in our favour. I know what you are saying about McCoist needing another crack, I know a few old Rangers fans who wouldn't mind the chance.}

K-Dot. I'M torn between deciding whether you're at the wind up or just deluded some times mate.
Neil Lennon is class?
Would you condone what he and MON did at Ibrox?
Would you condone his actions at Hampden?
Ffs, you're having a go at AM for parking his car outside Ibrox!
Look, both he and NL are passionate guys,who would die for their club.
Nothing wrong with that. That's what we love about Ally,and you's love about NL. It's exactly what Scottish football fans want to see and expect. I can't believe CFC fans sometimes. GS was the most successful manager in recent times,yet he was castigated by your support.
What exactly do Celtic fans want?
Is it purely down to an affiliation with Ireland and sod everyone else who does not have that affinity? Regardless of how successful they are? Is this the only pre requisite? Sure seems like it!
P.O.B. {Ed007's Note - You are starting to spout nonsense here POB, you are letting yourself down.}

Hi ED.Yes we did blow it, but there were extenuating circumstances.
I only used the points thing as an example that we weren't really that far behind.
Celtic had a bad run at the start,we had a bad run,it happens.
I accept the Kayal and Izzaguirre
(spelling) point,but Celtic had a bigger squad. We were that desperate we tried to sign Daniel Cousin in Admin ffs.
Look Ed,you can dig,and have a jolly all you want,the point is not lost on me.
The Barstewards who ruined our club will hopefully be brought to justice. This was not a football crime,it is one of the biggest fraudulent scenarios outside of Vodaphone and the banking crisis.And you no what? our fans were ripped off more than anybody,so the point is certainly not lost on me.
However, i know who i am,i know what i am. You are defined by this throughout your life. I am a Jam fan,I am a Queen fan,you can still purchase their records,despite the main man in one has died and the other has reformed. Once a Ranger always a Ranger. Once a Celt always a Celt. Semantics will never change that Ed.IF, we survive tis fiasco in any form,i will be delighted,If we're still running out at Ibrox,in a light blue strip,in front of the majority of the same fans,to me not much will have changed. Any club is reliant on and defined by it's membership and subscription. Is it wrong that our allegiance defines us? If it was that insignificant and petty,
why does it mean so much to so many people?
P.O.B. {Ed007's Note - Any word on the FOX TV deal POB? ;-)

Ed. Can you can explain the difference between the elevation of support for NL against the disgruntled acceptance of GS?
If you can then fine.
I don't think i'm being petty in asking the question?
P.O.B. {Ed007's Note - GS done a great job as CFC manager IMO (CL last 16?? better than MON??). Nothing to do with any 'Irish' stuff. Surely it wasn't PLG's background that put Rangers fans off him....or the 'Good Ulstermen' like Kylie Laugherty and Davis celebrating that endeared them to Ranger support? It was all good in the hood until Kylie got hitched in the 'wrong place' and Davis hasn't had a good word to say about the club since he signed his new deal. Davis was leaving until he got his bumper contract, he knew that club was heading to oblivion but saw the long term £ signs, £40k a week and a heavy signing on fee offset the paycut he took.... GS never played for CFC, every ex-player gets a lot of leeway, remember John Greig.... You are sounding very, very petty mate.}

P.O.B - you're out of order as Ed has said and talking absolute sh1te.

I won't even waste my time responding to the nonsense you have posted.

I also note your response to a post at 14.04.28 on the Rangers Banter page where the poster suggests using the RFFF to donate money to bringing the young Scottish girl home who is in Mexico.

You lambasted the supporter by saying: -

"Okay Geo.
Will you be doing the right thing too?
I will be donating,as an individual,
because i want to.
This has nothing to do with football,
TRFC,or anything.
So get off your rediculously dated high horse and go find a new hobby ffs!
P.O.B."

I think we are now starting to see the true nature of your character.

Celtic supporters quite willingly donated to the Vanessa appeal to help a young girl raise £500k for her treatment.

For the avoidance of doubt, I am not suggesting that Rangers suporters do not want to help the young girl in Mexico.

However, it can only be a good thing if entities including fans related to a football club can come together and help those in deed. In fact supporters of a football club coming together can provide a powerful force for fundraising.

Both Celtic and Rangers supporters have done so in the past.

Your comments to your fellow Rangers supporter are disgusting. You should hang your head in shame.

As I said, your true character is now coming out.

K-Dot.

My character??
Okay then Jeremy Kyle if you say so.
As usual K-Dot you've been selective in your analysis.

The poster is most certainly not an RFC fan. Just another imposter taking the moral high ground. The clues are in his two posts,try reading them again.
But then the inclusion of context would not have the same effect, or suit your agenda would it now K-Dot?
I'm sick of your mob telling us bears what we should and should not be doing to get a bit of dignity back,and show remorse.
Remorse for what? For being totally shafted by our former custodians?
Think you need to go backstage for a wee chat with Graham.
P.O.B.

Ed. "Surely it wasn't PLG's background that put Rangers fans off him"??
No it was PLG's performance that nailed him.
Don't see the relevance of that Ed.
You've just stated that GS done a great job as CFC manager. Why then was he never truly accepted by the Celtic support? It's a simple enough question,still requiring an answer.To then go on about KL and SD,again no relevance to the question i asked.
Nothing wrong with getting behind and defending your manager,as i am doing with AM,only asking why NL is revered more than GS,who has a better record.
The answer should go along the lines of, He wasn't liked because "..........."
P.O.B.

23 Jun 2012 13:05:09
Mrs E as you are now crossing over into
wee Pat's and my comedy posts, I feel
it only right that I now post about
the womens fashion at Royal Ascot,
I think all the bold colours and beautiful
hats brought an air of sophistication
to horseracing. The carefuly bouffanted
hairstyles set another high standard.
More fashion tips next time...
Still to follow is wee Pat and his recipe
page and our own ED007 on Flower
arranging... LOL Timalloy

@timalloy: Could wee have a baking section as i do love getting in about my ovens?.....green jhedi

Thanks timmy today were going to try something different in our "cooking with pat "section why not try something thats cost effective nourishing, & also very very easy to cook,& also something thats stood the test of time & yet greatly overlooked in todays hustle & bustle of quick kitchen cuisine.
Can you guess what it is yet,yep that old favourite,
"the tampon"
just put it into your microwave oven (800 watt) for 3 hrs on high,
& the only thing you need now are some toppings to compliment these little nibbles, so lets get our kitchen think caps on & jolly well come up with some bright ideas childre.
Oh & by the way these are meals that mummies & dadies dont have to know about so best not! & give them a big surprise when you give them their little treat, YUM YUM.....
well be back tomorrow with some other tasty snacks stright from " pats kitchen" bye!. back to you timmy in the cbbc stewdios

Green Jhedi, it just so happens we have two half hour baking slots available and wee Pat please ensure all recipes are checked by our legal team first....Timalloy

Where are we all going on this bus ? European games :-) Mrs E

Mrs E good idea a massive pubcrawl around europe.. LOL Timalloy

23 Jun 2012 12:38:08
i once was billybhoy, then billyboy and billyboy1 came along so i became bb ,now BB has appeared so i am going to change again .. shamrock

Shamrock, to stop imposters put something in either Name or email (not your real email unless you wish) that only ED007 will see then only your posts under your name will get posted. Timalloy

23 Jun 2012 00:54:49
no wonder most of the ibrox punters are jumping on the 3rd division bandwagon i think their starting to realise they will only be watching us next year hoping we get beat!bri67

I dont agree mate, as a Rangers season holder, a lot of true Rangers fans just want to do the right thing. Green has to go with the formality of application to the SPL but doesn't actually believe in my opinion we will ever be allowed in. I personally would rather see us taking a year out to sort out the mess and try paying back the money we owe but there are many none playing staff who would lose their employment. Just because Rangers fans won't stand and allow you to laugh at the club we love doesn't mean they are not ashamed and hurt by the mess SDM has caused Scottish football.

Excellent post mate. I can't understand why Rangers could not find a figurehead for fans to rally round. WS would, in my opinion, would be the obvious choice, but his pathetic attempt to buy your club minutes after they had been liquidated would seem to rule him out. No one has "managed" the administration and liquidation especially D@P. You have been on the back foot throughout and needed someone to be proactive in taking your club forward. It looks like the "Rangers" brand is not as attractive to investors as you would have us believe. I feel sorry for the decent fans who are standing by, watching their club being being humiliated.
Liah Smit

The sad thing is as a Rangers fan I can come on here and every time I post we tend to agree. Meby its time we real fans with common sense took over the running of Scottish football instead of the current crop who are terrified to make a decision incase it hurts them all financially. Who amongst you would not agree a one year complete ban from professional football would be an adequate punishment for Rangers? Then Rangers could re apply for a place in the SPL ONLY and I mean ONLY if they have paid off the majority of our creditors. AW

There is no rangers.