06 Jul 2018 21:03:05
Neymar - Nae-Mare!
As much as it chokes me to see all the favourites tumble out one by one - to England's advantage; I'm glad to see the back of that wee cheating, acting, spoiled wee nob.
Hazard/ DE Bruyne showed they're the real class act; so good luck to Belgium as they played to their strengths and held on even though they looked shattered.
Although another question mark over this VAR nonsense, where Brazil looked to have been denied a penalty after a foul by Kompany?
It just proves that a committee can still make as many honest mistakes as just the one mason in the black ha ha ha. cannot wait 'til it's used here - not.
07 Jul 2018 02:22:02
That decision just backs up everything that Ed has been saying about VAR.
07 Jul 2018 12:05:53
Naw it didn’t. VAR has been right about 95% of the time. There have been errors, but let’s focus on all the decisions and don’t cherry pick to suit an argument that the stats don’t back up.
How anybody here in hun ref heaven would rather have them defies belief,
{Ed007's Note - Because it would still be 'Hun refs working the VAR', are people actually that thick they dan't understand that?
Have you got any actual proof that VAR has been right 'about 95% of the time' or is that just that you've agreed with that amount, just because you agree with the decision still doesn't make it the right one.}
07 Jul 2018 12:36:52
Naw, the point is the hun refs who have to make the call don’t have anywhere to hide. Are people too stupid to realise that. If they confirmed absolute mistakes they are answerable for them. Do you honestly think Celtic would see a VAR decision totally show a penalty, then these hun refs would say, no it isn’t and we are going to accept that?
Refs get away with honest mistakes because the make judgements in real time. Any ref in the VAR room, even the ones with a sash on, will know their decisions have the benefit of hindsight, can be evidenced and if they still favour the refs honest mistake it would put them in the spotlight as we would take this evidence to Eufa.
VAR any day.
{Ed007's Note - And UEFA would say what, ask even more refs to look at videos of the action? Where do we stop, when we get the decision that YOU want?
As I've said, ex-refs, ex-players and hundreds of pundits give their opinion on what happens during a game and it's very rare that they all agree, the VAR team's opinion might be different from the refs and that might be different from the fans.
It's all down to the opinion of the decision maker and as we've seen in Germany it is very far from a safe method of deciding games.
Oh and btw, UEFA wouldn't get involved, it would be the SFA/SPFL that would deal with any complaints, even more Scottish refs looking at videos and giving their opinion, and then what, get all the players back together to take a penalty that should have been awarded weeks ago, take points off a team 2/3 days after the game?
If you scream out for VAR then moan and want to run to UEFA when you don't agree with the decision you're making yourself look a fool.}
07 Jul 2018 13:28:23
Agree with ed to a certain extent. A hun cheating is a hun cheating won't change. Most pundits thought Brazil should have had a penalty last night. Person looking at VAR didn't. So still down to human descion.
Part I disagree with ed. Caley cemi-final no one could have said that wasn't a penalty, after a tv review. So got to make the cheating harder.
{Ed007's Note - You can always pick out specific incidents that it would help - remember Frank Lampard's disallowed goal against Germany in the WC 2010? - but overall it wouldn't make much difference up here except give the ref's a back up for their honest mistakes, if a ref gives a dodgy penalty and VAR agrees it's a pen does that mean it's not dodgy?
Whether it's the ref on the park, VAR, pundits and ex-players in studios or guys like us on here or in the pub it all comes down to personal opinion and interpretation.
Look at THIS, surely VAR will either show the ref was bias or not or is that all down to people's opinion too?
As long as people agree with the decisions they're happy but when they don't agree it's a different matter, Magicpole's already wanting to run to UEFA if he doesn't agree with a VAR decision!!
It's a pointless conversation anyway, it'll never be brought into Scotland, we don't even have goal line technology up here!}
07 Jul 2018 14:20:55
If Scottish Football where to introduce Var it could very well co-incide with the return of Hugh Dallas as a major player in Scottish Football . Hugh himself, and many others would see him as the ideal person to control VAR implementation.
{Ed007's Note - The list of applicants to be head of VAR would be longer than one for the job of rubbing sunscreen onto J-Lo's butt!}
07 Jul 2018 17:58:57
That's why the Mason's are likely to take their safe option Dallas.