04 Feb 2016 15:35:57
I like Ronny Delia he seems a great guy and I think he has a great footballing philosophy I watched him give a lecture on YouTube and he knows his stuff but as a man manager does he get the best out of the players he has at his disposal, whenever you read about the great managers such as Sir Alex and Sir Bobby Robbson everyone always says they had this unique way of making players believe they were better than they were there man management skills were second to none! Players wanted to play for them and there teams always had that will to win! 2-0 down at half time yesterday a good man manager would tell his team that he believed in them and make them believe that even tho they were 2-0 down they were still good enough to win the game! I don't see that in Delias team! When we go behind the heads seem to go down and there is no drive to get back in the game! We need a leader! A man who can make average players feel like they are world beaters and no matter what the score is we can win the League! We are Glasgow Celtic we are winners we don't accept second best! Delia has had a year and a half to convince me he can build a team of winners! I am afraid he has failed!
04 Feb 2016 16:02:00
Didn't Sir Alec spend seasons making the Manchester United players believe they were better than they were . Too many experts on here are not prepared to give RD the same time.
04 Feb 2016 16:04:54
So for your example of who we need our manager to be like you pick two people:
One is arguably the greatest manager of all time.
One is a super nice guy who won very little over the course of three decades.
I agree with everything you say in terms of improving players -- and I'd argue that RD could lay claim to doing such -- but it's moot/ nebulous. Like the cry of "we need a champions league quality striker", it sounds good but means very little because a. There is no tangible suggestion/ solution put forth and b. The market you're operating in with a statement like that is one from which we are not going to shop in.
04 Feb 2016 16:53:33
Too many experts on here wanting to prolong his tenure in the face of his abject failure to deliver his own promises.
04 Feb 2016 17:14:58
Said by someone who's only contribution to any post is RD should be sacked. Expert right enough!
04 Feb 2016 17:56:35
OK TPP in the spirit of open mindedness tell me what he has brought to the club, how he has improved it in terms of what he said he would do. He has brought KT through, but my view is that the boy is such a natural talent any manager would do that. All the rest of our decent young players are out on loan. that means someone else is developing them not RD.
04 Feb 2016 20:35:41
He has brought KT through. You can't just write off that because it suits your argument. He has implemented a formation that we (are trying to) play at both home and in Europe - which to be honest, has almost worked. But for some individual errors, we have arguably played some of our best (European) football in years.
You say that he has sent out youngsters like it's a bad thing. Sending a footballer out on loan IS developing them. You are choosing which club, which environment etc and have the foresight to see that a player will get more game time. Liam Henderson is a better player for his time spent in Norway, and will be better again for his time spent playing week in week out for Hibs. If they go out, come back and are moved on (McGeough) then it's because they are not good enough. Darnell Fisher is prime example. He hasn't been playing outstanding whilst out. He's been average. As you say, some will slot in and take their chance right away (KT) but some need game time. I would have liked Aiden Nesbitt to stay but I'm also excited to see him get some serious game time under his belt at Partick Thistle. I'm not going to attack any previous managers but I feel like RD has already gave more youngsters a chance, and is certainly looking to them. Again whether they are good enough or not is another thing altogether.
I don't know enough about the specifics but ED007 has mentioned that RD's trying to change the set up from the ground up -- and has implemented changes in that regard (sorry if I'm paraphrasing you ED) but these things can't be done overnight.
I don't like being beaten. I was gutted last night. But it was one game. As was Sunday. Last night was unacceptable, undoubtedly, but I have to be fair and say we were dominating (and in complete control) until a wonder strike. Yes we capitulated after that and in all honesty never looked like getting back into it (despite my faith) but that's another issue. On Sunday, the red card changed the game and the missed penalty kept it changed (so to speak) - I don't think RD is solely to blame for that. In any case, these are single games and I'm looking at the bigger picture, and ahead to the next game. Of course if we are beaten by East Kilbride, or if we fail to win the league then RD must go - but we won't lose to East Kilbride and I think we'll win the league comfortably in the end.
The point isn't that I'm a RD apologist, because I'm not, nor am I wanting him sacked, because I don't - I just think the rot that we are seeing is partly because of a systemic failure that goes back to Martin O days, and because that same malaise is now being changed, which will take time.
It's darkest before the dawn and all that.
04 Feb 2016 21:44:06
Sorry for the delay in responding, you and I have a different view about the system, I think it is flawed and leaves us wide open, it gives lesser teams too many chances against us. on Sunday we had already began conceding possession before the penalty. Ross County had three decent attempts in the 12 minutes after our goal. The shape of the team does not lend itself to game management as seen against Malmo. The speed and style of play never changes if you didn't know the score it would be difficult to know whether we were winning 5 nil or losing 5 nil. It results in over passing with little penetration and we rarely get behind the opposition, they always seem to have time to regroup. I think it is difficult to say that we have seen some of our best displays in Europe. My view is this was an abject failure and we lost to many games from good positions. While some supporters can see him improving the situation I cannot I can only see it getting worse much as it pains me. If RD remains I desperately hope we can do enough to win the league but I think this is in the balance given the physical and mental weakness of our team.
04 Feb 2016 22:31:30
No worries bud.
I don't think the system is perfect -- and as I say, I think he's trying to. Whether it's working or not is, as you say, hot or cold. I'm not going to get into specific problems because that could be the personnel as opposed to the system (which granted, could be directed at RD's door) but that aside, I do think we need to have a formation (and style of play - whatever that is) that we play home, away, domestically and in Europe with only slight tweaks, and that formation/ style has to run down through all the other development/ youth teams etc.
I don't think you are totally wrong with the flaws in the system, or the implementation of the system, but I don't think we are on the wrong path - and what I will say is that the often heard call of 442 is a total red herring. And one that was exposed last night. It's an antiquated system that is easy to play around, and even easier to press/ sustain possession - as we found out for the 2nd 45 minutes. (we barely got a touch in the first 10 mins of the second half)
As I said, I think we'll win the league comfortably - whether that saves RD is another thing altogether.
05 Feb 2016 19:43:18
I read your post with interest TPP, you state it has ALMOST worked. Considering you also state that you know what the word FACT means on previous posts I assume you know what ALMOST means.
Not quite, nearly. If u come second in a race u nearly/ almost win, but ultimately you have failed.
You also state "the rot we are seeing" well if it is indeed a rot we are seeing and agree with you on that why o why are you defending the manager who is producing this rot.