21 Jul 2015 15:04:31
Imagine for a minute we went out and spent 3/4 million on that striker we all wish for. Wud he be of proven CL quality? Highly unlikely, he would either be a talent/prospect or a Finnbogasson/Hooper type for eg. Both untried at the top level. We need to be careful what we wish for sometimes, now I would love another striker at the club but not for the sake of it. I just think this type of striker is out of our range at the minute and every other club in the world is looking for the same.
If we did just buy a new striker and he was Italian/Dutch/Belgian, for 2m bucks and he had a name like Leigiano Griffiantos and he just scored a hat trick in our last game we would be raving about this guy.Now I not saying LG is the answer all I saying is give the guy a chance. Seems to me he has stepped up at every level so far.Lets give him a crack at Europe and see what he can do because 1 thing I know for sure this guy knows where the net is and he has only 1 thought in his mind when he has a sight at goal.The other thing I like about him is when we get possession in our own half he is on his way instantly making space and wants it in behind. We just eed to get it to him earlier.
21 Jul 2015 15:30:00
Rayman
Is it not slightly disingenuous of you to suggest that we are dissatisfied with our striker situation because one so happens to be scottish?
I am dissatisfied because our system ( to work effectively ) requires a player typology that is absolutely beyond our means. The RD system does not take cognisance of our financial constraints and the SPFL's reputation.
I'm all for LG and his progress. 100% If he rattles in 25 goals and ,CFC score 100 I will now to the system that RD puts so much faith in.
I do see the argument the LG and ciftci are different players and can see the attraction in the ciftci capture
21 Jul 2015 17:00:52
Not sure what you mean about the name thing.
We could have went for Lucas Barrios, sounds quite exotic admittedly. On a Bosman, offer him circa 40k a week over two years and bang, you've got yourself a CL striker for £4m.
I have no idea how much every player is available for. But I don't think spending £3/4m would be doing so "just for the sake of it". Yes players may not want to come, but there's an essence to me that we're scared to try, dare to dare. You tend to get what you pay for in my eyes. And were we not told that we could be in the market for a £5/6m anyway? That's my main issue. PLs bullshit.
I have no issue LG playing in the Champions League for us. I'd prefer it if he was to come on though rather than start. I'd like us to start with a player whose game is more like that of Ciftci. Just a better player.
Seeing as you mentioned him. I also think Finnboggason would do a job. Now, he's available on loan. So why not loan out Scepovic, who obviously isn't doing something right, and loan Finnbogasson in? Makes perfect sense to me. Scepovic hasn't contributed so we don't really have anything to lose.
Fact is we still don't seem to be going for quality over quantity. Apart from Boyata, and it's not exactly hard to get in our centre of defence. Do any of the signings really jump out and walk in the side? I'm not claiming to be master scout or anything but i'm obviously not alone in thinking that they don't. Hopefully Bailly, Janko and Ciftci work hard and ahow that they can get in on merit. But it would be nice from the point of view as a fan, to be sitting as a fan more confident that we've signed a player(s) that will improve the side, and by that I mean this season, not next or the one after that.
21 Jul 2015 18:30:08
Maybe I never articulated it properly but my point is if we buy a foreign striker with a fancy name and he scores a hat trick we tend to go over board and say this guy is the dogs whatsits. But if he Scottish we tend to say he either not good enough or we want another. As I said LG has stepped up let's see what he can do. Look at Guidetti everyone raved about him at the start and looked how that worked out. I think it would cost a fortune to get a better striker than LG.
PW as you know I not convinced with this system either, if u look at all the strikers who were reasonably successful for us at CL level they all had a partner.
Jim I maybe wrong and PL gets slated for it but did he not say that we could pay 4/5 m IF the right player came along.Is it just not possible the right 1 hasn't came along yet.
{Ed007's Note - It was a £6-8 million player PL said.}
21 Jul 2015 18:51:29
Hasn't come along?
21 Jul 2015 18:59:49
Looking at the system we play I don't think scoring goals in the champions league (group stages and if by some miracle beyond) should be our main concern as my worry lies in our defence and I hate to be negative but if we are to lose VVD and replace him with mulgrew and continue with Izaguirre at left back then I believe we will become the whipping boys of europe. Yes the striker situation may not be the best but will do the job domestically and if we are to bring any new personnel in, it has to be defenders.
21 Jul 2015 21:09:43
We've seen time and time again the slightest of mistakes punished in the CL. Inter, Juve, Barca all spring to mind.Hopefully Lustig can stay fit as we are better when he's in the team.