27 Nov 2015 10:30:15
without a doubt the management is to blame
and unfortunately the time has come to part company with them.
RD cannot make excuses about budgets etc he has signed duds after duds and comes up with the same excuses that we are improving and our time will come! your time has come ronnie!
molde have a fraction of the budget we have and look at them!
look at gent, olympiakos, astana amd others who have smaller budgets so the problem isn't down to that its down to the quality of the management that's not there! what's peoples opinions!?
27 Nov 2015 11:28:55
I think budgets are important, if you continually sell players for up to £10m and replace them with £1m players from Dundee Utd, then over a period of time the standard is bound to drop.
It's naïve to think that you can keep buying bargain basement players and turn them into superstars, this may happen very occasionally, but most of the time you just end up with rank average players.
The board has to decide where the club is going, at what point will they decide that the decline has gone far enough?
I think that it has gone far enough now, the stupid thing is that their efforts to save money is now costing the club money. How giving up the revenue from the Champions league, and losing money through less people coming through the turnstiles, is seen as good management is beyond me.
I would like to see some investment put into the team, if this current board are not willing to do so, then I wish they would make way for people who are, sadly though, I won't be holding my breath.
27 Nov 2015 16:05:13
Perfect post gerry.
27 Nov 2015 17:31:31
I agree Gerryc but we have missed the boat again this season .
27 Nov 2015 19:16:54
Gerry and Jim Tim. Please tell me who these people are who are going to invest in the club if you get rid of the current board? It's easy to make these statements about telling the board to stand aside but who is standing around with the money? So if DD sells his shares the money goes to him not to the club. So you are saying that DD should sell his shares to "somebody" who will not only buy his shares but also put his hand deep into his pocket and give money to Celtic, for free, to invest in the team? It does not work like that. Celtic are a Plc. The board don't own the club, the shareholders do. Any shares bought and sold are bought and sold between the shareholder and the buyer. The club make no money from it. So the comments about DD standing aside mean hee haw! Unless someone is willing to offer to buy all of the shares from all of the shareholders we are where we are.
27 Nov 2015 20:18:39
Johnnymac, I don't know if there is anybody waiting in the wings to buy Dermot Desmond's shares, all I'm saying is that the team badly needs some investment put into it.
Whatever the business speak is for who owns the club, or who sells shares to who, there is a policy at the club that has seen the team weakened severely over the last few years. There must be people at the club who decided on this strategy. In that case surely these same people could decide on a different strategy.
I can't make them do it, I'm just saying it's what I would like to see happen. I'm sure Dermot Desmond has done quite well out of Celtic these last few years, Isn't it about time he put something back into them.
27 Nov 2015 21:18:55
Gerry I am no fan of DD or the Board. But the notion that DD should put his own money into the club for free is silly. First of all how much money do you want him to put in? Is it £5mill or £10 mill or £20 mill? How much does it need to make us competitive? He is a preferential shareholder. If he throws in £20 mill and Celtic qualify for CL next season then the dividend paid out must be shared between all its preferential shareholders so you really are asking DD or whomever to give away their total investment so the other preferential shareholders can benefit from that? It can't and won't happen. So once you get your head around that and understand that this is not a privetly owned club who can be transferred from one owner to the next. And again ask yourself just how much money do you thing it needs?
27 Nov 2015 22:37:32
Johnnymac, I am only making the point that the team needs money spent on, it, it's up to the people that run the club to decide how it's done, not me.
How do other clubs manage to do it?
As I said previously, I can't make anybody put their money into the club, but if somebody claims to be a supporter and has made a lot of money from the club, then I think at times he should be willing to put something back. I know I would if it was me.