Celtic banter 6

27 Aug 2026 16:30:32
I find it odd that the board want to improve communication with fans but when asked by the collective to meet up for a discussion, they patch the fans. 🤔

As I pointed out when they appointed the head of fan engagement. This is merely a token gesture and will do nothing to improve fan communication.

The cynic in me says they have learned no lessons from last season and they are continuing exactly as they did last season.

They are fools if they think doing the same as last season is going to placate the fans, and I suspect we will be seeing protests against them in the very near future and the toxic atmosphere to return.

27 Aug 2026 16:50:41
Reminds of workplace surveys where business leaders claim to listen to employees but really only offer token gestures,

27 Aug 2026 18:29:09
Joe, they won't be interested in any communication just now as they are apparently thinking of announcing young Desmond as our Chairman.

If true it sums up what they think of the fans and we now know what our future looks like.

No investment, in Europe for a couple of weeks and winning domestically if we can manage to scrape by.

27 Aug 2026 18:39:00
I am NOT siding with the board about this, members of the board should talk with the fans collective but in a way I think I can understand this time why they won't because they don't need to be clairvoyant to know what will be said and asked. Yes 100% they should be held accountable but so should the players and all the management team.

I just hope Celtic as a club can get over this and sort out the rest of the season. I think we could all agree good work was done in attack recruitment BUT there is a hell of a lot of work needing done in defence and center mid IMO.

27 Aug 2026 20:29:42
There is absolutely no sense in how we operate. It’s like putting 3 new tyres on your car and leaving the other wheel off.

27 Aug 2026 22:51:35
Tiny the management team is being held accountable almost daily. MON is the only guy that talks from the club. They’re hiding behind him.

28 Aug 2026 00:28:37
@mip - Ross Desmond is persona non grata as far as I'm concerned. If this is true I can see things turning ugly fast, as he is hated by many of our supporters.

@chasaboy - loving the tyre analogy. 🤣

@tony - the collective have been asking for a meeting since July.

27 Aug 2026 15:56:46
Well there we go straight from the horses mouth, McGinn was desperate to go to Celtic but we fannied about as usual trying to low ball. He even said the club phoned his granda to try get John to push it through. Villa came in and paid the asking price and the rest is history.

27 Aug 2026 16:31:34
I bet our board would steal money out the plate at the chapel.

27 Aug 2026 16:59:11
Of course he is leaving out that the agreement was made for a fee and Lennon informing Steve Bruce that McGinn was available. Bruce has talked about meeting Lennon playing golf about how he signed McGinn. Mcginn also said in the same podcast that he was wowed by them opening the villa stadium for him one night. It's all out there to check.
If any of us were offered the chance to sign for Celtic, even half as "desperate" as McGinn claimed to be, we all would have waited till the clubs sorted it out and we would all be Celtic players.


Same rubbish every year about McGinn, but it's summed up really easy. HE CHOSE VILLA over Celtic! Fans run around like some ragin burd that a fella picked her mate over her.
Honestly couldn't give two fiddlers about McGinn.

{Ed007's Note - 👏🏻🍀

27 Aug 2026 17:58:24
Agreed see when they start this pish I mean you chose villa over Celtic good luck ye done well but my dream would have been to be in your position and I know I would have chosen to wear the hoops mcginn would have been captain material it's his loss I'm sure villa was a great time good dough but it's still not your dream could have went south later in career.

27 Aug 2026 18:32:50
Funny how he is coming out with this crap now although he mentioned previously and there is still a video of the interview where he states that everything was agreed with Celtic but he chose Villa because Bruce guaranteed that he would play every game and Rodgers told him that he would have to wait due to us having a strong midfield.


He is changing his story to please them down south.

27 Aug 2026 20:42:31
Right enough, imagine thinking we would fanny about getting a transfer done 🥺.

{Ed007's Note - Imagine folk still giving a feck about McGinn..

27 Aug 2026 21:54:39
Most of the fans on here didn't think he was good enough for us at the time.

27 Aug 2026 14:28:16
Celtic have usually been good at seeing games out over the years but our game management on Tuesday was woeful.

When LASK made it 4-1 in the last minute it felt like they had scored the winner because of the way the match had went plus the players Celtic had left on the pitch.

I was looking at the damaging crucial 90 minute and injury time goals we have conceded over the years.
I make it Celtic have not conceded a crucial domestic winner against us since Hearts in July 2021 with no Celtic fans in Tynecastle.
( 233 domestic games ago )

We have conceded a handful of damaging crucial equalisers since.
We have conceded equalisers twice and Fir Park and MacDermid Park but then went back up the park and scored the winner.

The 2 closest feelings to Tuesday night in the last 5 years have happened in Europe.
We lost an injury time Munich equaliser but that knocked us out.
Plus the only other injury time winner Celtic have conceded in the last 5 years happened at home to Lazio 2-1 a few years ago.

It was a bad feeling conceding that crucial 4th goal on Tuesday but it doesn’t happen to us often.
Celtic have scored crucial last gasp goals nearly 20 times over that same last 5 year period.

27 Aug 2026 16:33:22
Clutching at straws here but I know it was said Trusty had a stomach bug, is it possible it was more widespread in the team given how many were blowing after the 60 minute mark.

Just can’t ever recall a whole squad of players playing so bad after what was a decent start to the game.

27 Aug 2026 16:25:46
Buzz a junior team coukd have seen that out I knew when nygren gave the first goal away said my boys this could be crucial and we capitulated.

27 Aug 2026 17:50:29
That was the turning point for me. I think if Nygren hadn't given away that sitter we would have seen it out.
It seemed to terrify us, the fact that they had scored to even the tie.

27 Aug 2026 17:56:22
It was a certainty that LASK would be visiting Lisbon on our 60th Anniversary season.
Maybe we will get Benfica tomorrow.

27 Aug 2026 13:13:41
I seen out of 41 SPFL clubs we have signed the least player's. we have signed only 4.Spartans above us with 5.

27 Aug 2026 13:30:19
5 including Ox.

27 Aug 2026 13:40:51
No doubt we will be scampering about for loans now there's no CL cash.

27 Aug 2026 13:41:07
Don't worry. Ross Desmond is becoming the chairman. The resolution the club know we need. EFFIN scum!

27 Aug 2026 14:59:43
In the last 5 years, SEVCO have brought in on average over 10 players per season. What have they won?

Their transfer dealings have always been at a loss in those same 5 years. What have they won?

Numbers don't win games.
Money don't win games.

Do you think we had a good team last season?

You build a team. It takes time.

27 Aug 2026 15:13:29
Sevco will have their usual most Annual debt than the other 41 Scottish clubs combined.
That is why a National Fair Play System was not forced through after the 2012 fiasco.

27 Aug 2026 15:38:31
All they do is Spend other people's money on loop every year.

27 Aug 2026 16:34:31
At least they spend.

We have plenty yet still only spend when we make money.

27 Aug 2026 16:18:48
Apcelt how many cl embarrassments and the loss of revenenue associated does it take to build a team? Are we building a football version of la sagrada familia? Maybe we'll get there by 2036 but will we still probably need a gk lb rb cg cm lw and striker.

27 Aug 2026 20:52:47
DRB, I don't know as I've never built a team. How many teams have you built? (None - I thought so! )

The way I see it is that it's the Managers job to do that.
1. He sees what he's got.
2. He either tears up what he's got and starts again or slowly starts fixing it by addressing the most immediate concerns.
3. He gets new player in, some work out, some don't.
4. Next window, same again.
5. Next window, same again, trying to improve as you go.
6. Same again.

MON firstly came in temporarily and had to go with what he had. Whether he liked the players Rodgers and others brought in is immaterial, he had to go with what he had.

What we have from previous years means nothing to MON as there is nothing he can do about that. New manager, starts afresh, as is normal.

Now he's at point 2 above. Do you think he has his team yet?

We're out of the CL, which is a clear indication we are not good enough for the CL. Twist that all you want, blame whoever you like, as that is your right. However, do you think MON listens to you/ me. It is what it is, and you cannot change that.

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27 Aug 2026 09:49:10
It’s unusual not to hear a single thing about the fitness of a few players who looked injured in midweek.
I’ve not read any updates but I suppose no news is hopefully good news.

27 Aug 2026 11:59:18
3 defenders had to be substituted on Tuesday. The reason O’Neill couldn’t put on more attacking players. Crazy.

27 Aug 2026 15:17:04
Martin must’ve regretted previously putting on Tounekti and Hatate before the injuries because those first 2 subs eventually crippled us.
Bad luck or Bad Planning?

27 Aug 2026 15:54:49
I don’t understand why Hassan wasn’t put on before Tounetki, Buzz. Is he really that unfit? If so, why did we pay the money we paid for him right now? Why not bring in players ready to go if we were preparing for this game? We should have told Hassan he’ll be signed post-qualifiers as we needed a strong squad ASAP.

The priority when planning should have been that game - if we actually wanted to go through.

27 Aug 2026 09:12:45
When the board accepted west ham offer for engels to leave before qualifiers was the admittance we have no desire to be a champions league club. When we refused to bring in an adequate replacement or bring the signings in to prepare for these qualifiers is again an admittal that we have no aspirations to be in that competition. For me the disappointment year on year of failure to qualify has been replaced this time with a realisation that our board answers to nobody does as they please as there is no consequence. You can only make change by providing consequence and that has to be boycott there is no other language they understand apart from pound and pence. if we keep showing up filling the ground they take us for fools as they have done for years now.

Enough is enough we are watching a skint Rangers overspend massively why are we bothered about champions league is it for the money we have tons of it but don't spend again we in black for transfers. Is it for prestige well getting pumped most games is hardly prestigious. We must accept that until we have a board who act like they running a champions league club then we are not 1.football works in cycles we are getting to the same point as Kelly's and whites people who thought the club was theirs. The club is ours we must remind the powers that be now and again of that fact the time is now.

27 Aug 2026 10:38:37
In response to your points and questions Mcstay8, yes.

HH.

27 Aug 2026 15:59:03
Martin ONeil stated Engels didn’t want to play in case he got injured. Plus a couple of the players we are wanting to replace Engels were waiting to see if we qualified for the champions league. Our managers words so what is the board or the coaching staff meant to do in that situation?

27 Aug 2026 16:42:48
Engels is under contract if he refuses to play then he should still travel with squad to own his decision and be shown the club is in control similar to hadjuk split not allowing 2 players to move until after tonight's game 1 who is coming to us.

That makes us look weak as a club. Unlike most clubs our biggest games aren't in may they are in August so players moving need to be reminded of this same for hadjuk biggest games in August.

27 Aug 2026 16:43:39
Play Engels and find other targets!

27 Aug 2026 07:39:22
{Ed's Note - Shappy has posted a new article entitled, A Clear Assessment of United's Squad

27 Aug 2026 06:31:05
McCowan has had his extension, Ralston will be next alongside a couple of others who aren’t even good enough back ups never mind starters.

and that stinks for me!
I know the rules around squad lists etc and homegrown quota but these guys weren’t good enough years ago why do the powers that be think they are now, surely there is better quality homegrown options out there to snap up that we could utilise?

27 Aug 2026 08:24:17
It's the cheap option. Celtic always go for the cheap option.

There's been no "lessons learned", it's the same mistakes being repeated over and over again and as fans we're expected to sit on our seats and keep our mouths shut. We have virtually no say in what direction our club is going and can't hold anyone to account.

I'd be hugely surprised if we bring in more than 2 permanent transfers now. It'll be bargain basement loans with a scatter gun approach.

But it'll all be fine because we're a bawhair better than sevco. For now anyway.

27 Aug 2026 09:01:44
Ive said it numerous times. We have zero ambition as a football club.

27 Aug 2026 09:18:21
Need 8 homegrown players in uefa, we’d need to replace these guys with Scottish players or youngsters just to make numbers up in 25 man squad, so 17 foreigners, which in theory means entire first 11 and subs (used) can be non Scot’, I could be wrong.

27 Aug 2026 11:20:08
Jaa11,

Your numbers are as close as.

The Celtic website currently lists 26 first team squad players but that is only with x2 GK's, when clearly we should have 3.

If we based the full squad on 26 players;- 8 homegrown and 18 non homegrown (foreign) players which equates to almost a third of the squad being homegrown.

IMO, we need to start looking very carefully at signing Scottish/ homegrown players from other teams who can actually play their way into the first team, as oppossed to being a 3rd choice RB on a contract worth £500K+ per year just because your Scottish.

With a first 11 that currently contains CalMac and KT, Donovan plays only because AJ is injured and with an ageing Forrest on the bench, that leaves 4 Scottish/ homegrown players in the squad who are effectively empty jerseys as they have little or no chance of getting a game.

This should be Forrests last season at Celtic, CalMac is 33 yrs of age and KT can't play 90mins, but again, this issue should have been addressed long before now.

The homegrown contingent of players in the Celtic squad should be contributing far more than just making up the numbers.

Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.

HH.

27 Aug 2026 12:40:13
We should go for Lewis Ferguson.

27 Aug 2026 05:20:42
Whose fault is it that we did not have a first choice GK?

Whose fault is it that we had to play an unfit CCV?

Whose fault is it that we had to pick between scales and trusty, both of whom are not capable at this level and have plenty of mistakes in them?

Whose fault is it that we had to pick between Ralston and an inexperienced Donovan?

Whose fault is it that we had no cover for a KT who is unable to play 90 minutes?

Whose fault is it that we have no fight or physicality in midfield?

Whose fault is it we signed an unfit RW only days before these qualifiers, so had no chance to get fit and ready?

Whose fault is it we have no one else that can play the hold up role up front?

Whose fault is it that our bench was devoid of suitable replacements?

Whose fault was it that Engels was sold right before the qualifiers and no replacement brought in?

Whose fault was it that hatate was not sold last summer and has been picking up a wage for doing nothing since?

Whose fault is it that once again we go into the CL qualifiers with glaring deficiencies in the team?

27 Aug 2026 06:18:20
Great points Joe and its all on suits, AGAIN, they were too busy patting themselves on the back for a decent start to the season and some promising signings whilst again missing the glaring deficiencies in the team and lack of cover in vital areas, no lb and as we all know strugglesxwitn 90mins never mind an intense high kevel game like the other night, ccv goes off and its Murray we turn to who's not only not good enough we know from previous feck ups, and at rb ralston Al leave rhat there, mccowan deary ne where to start,
Problem is that could be the squad for the season as the miserable feckless won't spend now even tho we're about 5m up on ins and outs,
Well not another penny from this Tim sick of them same mince every year.

27 Aug 2026 06:29:56
Ccv is deemed fit by manager and played every game pre season and season, scales and trusty are both capable in a playoff against lask not to mention where our 2 ch choices that won league most of last season, won in Bologna Feyenoord and Germany? lb no doubt an issue, but has club offered players to manager that doesn’t want, sarrachi we now know wanted more minutes and wasn’t going to get them, but yeah lb a problem, mentality manager captain and staff but there’s enough old guard to also know what’s needed, bench is in an issue but at some point we need to recognise the 11 where more than capable and shouldn’t have needed bailed out, the bench was as you say tho weak, although manager didn’t use what was probably his 3 best options, Hassan had a late wc and extended break, he was a main and expensive target, I don’t think blame should be used in anyway around the guy, Engels forced his move and you don’t sign anyone because of it, we’ve tried to get our targets and it didn’t happen before game, we can blame Engels himself to be honest, hetate is under contract and rejected offers, there wasn’t a suitable offer last summer I’m wandering why you keep mentioning this, in theory if it was a maeda situation you could have a point but u don’t.

It’s manager his staff captain and players fault that our team can’t beat lask joe, don’t kid yourself in your not as always revelling in a bit of a disaster, praying for I told you so moment,

If a top team lost to us no1 we would accept the praise of winning no2 wether they need players or not it would be the teams fault for not performing not anyone sitting in the stand, our bench I’d say was our only real deficiency the other night, but Osmond Hassan and Forrest not getting on park was a bit nuts, Osmand for running power, Forrest can keep a ball better than most, Hassan I think could have carried ball out of danger, all should also like the playing team be coached run up to game what our tactics are if holding on to lead, the team peed the bed Joe, looked badly coached, and played atrociously, running into game we had signs but most people went in delighted with our business (acknowledging more required ) but hugely confident and delighted, cl qualification I don’t think would have got us any new centre halves, sinasalo was a mixed bag but he didn’t let us down, rb is a clear issue as we have young rb that seems to not have the energy to compete for a full game (that’s a worry as his quality seems to be there or there abouts ) is there a mentality thing with him,

Joe your fishing for (board ) . To be answer to your questions, it’s just not, let’s pick this board stuff up end window.

27 Aug 2026 07:22:50
When you put it like that, it’s nothing but complete incompetence top to bottom.
And given how many CL rounds we’ll have to face in future, CL will be out of our grasp for several years now.

27 Aug 2026 07:44:42
So we agree issues at lb and rb no replacement for engles imo our cbs struggle with physicality as proven over the 2 games out muscled, the problem is the time it takes to get deals done, every year is the same we don't give ourselves the best chance of qualifying, look at that bench no back up keeper ralston mccowan Murray balikwisha hatate who's been missing for a year a 35 yo forrest who i incidently would have had on before tounekti hassan signed too late who's faults that and let's be clear aj would have been sold but for injury, sh@tshow again.

27 Aug 2026 08:30:25
Jaa11 you’re like a Doberman chasing its tail. You constantly acknowledge the deficiencies that haven’t been addressed and in the next breathe you treat them as an irrelevance. The squad should have been ready long before we came near this tie. If the targets identified don’t want to commit before certain qualification, F them, move on and find someone that does. If players want to leave before replacements found, again F them, they’re under contract.

You keep saying you’ll wait till end of window to judge board performance, unfortunately by then it’s too effin late. Again and again and again and again. How many more times do we let this board repeat the EXACT same failures and hang another manager dangling in the wind. This club can afford a little bit of risk. It constantly chooses not to.

27 Aug 2026 12:05:52
Again WeeJoe, I told you all so.

Agsu the players on thst park in LASK are more than capable of holding onto a 4 goal lead.

Players fault, managements fault.

27 Aug 2026 13:20:34
Agree with both points Greentree, wee Joe has been telling us constantly, and tbf if you gave me 55mins to defend a 4 goal lead against PSG and we blew it I’d be gutted. It’s a combination of all but we all know who shoulders that blame and it shouldn’t be a 75yr old man.

28 Aug 2026 06:43:22
lol Chasa I actually feel like that sometimes, I see cl qual and window in isolation, and differently from some, doesn’t mean I’m right or wrong,
Cl- I feel our manager and team should qualify against these teams outwith some of the others Lyon fenerbache, I’d have expected more strength in squad to compete with them or your asking to go out
Window- I see it as season prep and setting out your plans for season, so far I think theve done great in bringing in there targets, they need to continue now and fill voids and deficiencies in squad, (gk lb cms priority, rb lw additionals maybe) if in cl maybes become priorities but not now for me.

It’s that simple hence can’t argue against lots of points and concede squad deficiencies but still hold manager staff players responsible for other night, I don’t expect all to agree.

26 Aug 2026 22:35:57
In our failures at CL qualifiers we have had several different managers and lots of different players. The one common denominator is this board of directors and the way they have repeated the same actions leading up to these play offs. You could be forgiven for thinking that they don’t actually want to qualify. Can they really be this ignorant of the consequences, year on year?

27 Aug 2026 06:57:38
Repeated Chasa I wouldn’t say this year is a repeat of last, your posts last few weeks really consistent Chasa and uve been sending the warning, when do you portion blame to squad and staff tho, before tie how many lask players would you want, if club signed lask lb cm and gk mid July i'm just not sure 1- there fee but we anything to write home about and 2 - wether anyone would be impressed, infact i bet same things would have been thrown at board for weeks like taking cheap option etc, I get the point, we needed a lb, we want a gk, we’ve sold Engels so why risk it, i'm sorry these aren’t enough to portion blame at suits in stand, lb issue aside we should have sailed through tie, we scored 3 good goals at home, and consistently gave away chances, something you spoke about right after game, so why in a week of preparation where the same staring 11 not ready and capable.

27 Aug 2026 07:00:25
Spot on. to have failed as many times as we have under the same hierarchy repeating the same mistakes year after year isn't acceptable. failure of that magnitude in any other business naturally forces change. not at celtic. we're supposedly a PLC. Garbage! What we are is a family business ran by the desmonds.

what they say goes and the rest just run along with it for the ride. healthy pay, plenty freebies along the way. why would yer CEO, Chairman or any other board member remove themselves from the gravy train?