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02 Sep 2015 16:57:22
A find it funny after all the shambles of the transfers, the Europa prices come out, £66 which is decent, so to say, but deluded fans are like, oh, that's brilliant off of Celtic for keeping the prices down, WHAT PLANET IS SOME FANS ON? brilliant my backside, it's fans like that, that say stupid things like that, have the board off Scott free, it's stinking up there, a don't want big names, am not that daft, I know my stuff, I just want decent signings THAT MAKE SENSE, I want to see the youth coming through, I want to go to park head and watch decent football, 3 up front stuff, or even 2, we've lost about 10'000 supporters as it is, because the mess our economy for one, the state of Scottish football, and the footballs mince, love for the club can only take u so far, but this is no good, it's take take take from them clowns up there, no give give give.

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1.) 02 Sep 2015 20:47:17
Do you honesty think that reducing the package for the three games by a few pounds would affect the attendance by much .


2.) 02 Sep 2015 22:13:59
No, because liewells not interested in helping the fans, or what we think! We all know that now, I'll not b renewing my season book again after this year, I said that last year though, but the way the clubs getting ran and the NON exciting signings, and the park the bus 1 up front football, is just NOT cutting it anymore, am 1 unhappy Bhoy!


 

 

02 Sep 2015 06:47:41
We're a JOKE of a club, the Zagreb fans r laughing at us for signing him, 5m? Don't know anything about the lad, but reading between the lines, he's a big DUMPLING, it's a myth we're years ahead of that mob, total myth, I NEVER call lawwell liewell, but I can't help myself now, FXXKING JOKE OF A CLUB, I've just woke up, checked the signings, had hoped of a decent striker signing, NO fxxk all in, SHOCKING, GET THAT BOARD OUT NOW, and take the look at me, am so Ronny incompetent, that the Ronny roar has turned into EVERYBODY GETS A RED FACE WHEN HE DOES IT, we get bet off of a NO BETTER than an Scottish championship team in Malmö, 3 days later he's bouncing about the park fist pumping into the crowd for ANOTHER poor performance against a poor SPL side! A wish the police would jail these tubes as well, get them away from the club we ALL love.

tim1972

{Ed001's Note - can I just ask what would you have liked them to do differently? I understand fans want to see big signings, but just who exactly are you going to get to go and play in Scotland right now? Surely the priority should be, as the league, with all due respect to the rest of the SPFL, should be a formality, is to build a style of play that is attractive and exciting for the fans to watch? Along with working hand in hand with the academy to bring through players that can take the club to the next level.

Or is it that, as a football club there should be no profits, as every penny should be re-invested in the club? If they can't find players willing to play in Scotland who improve the team, then those profits should be put back into the club in the shape of increased investment in the youth system, facilities (both for the team and supporters) and reduced ticket prices. Now if that is your gripe I am fully with you, as that is how every football clubs should be run. Sadly it seems all you are bothered about is not getting big enough names to drool over in the window.}


1.) 02 Sep 2015 07:41:27
Well buying players like Allan and Christie and ciftci proves we're not bringing players through, I know we're never Goney attract a big name now, but for crying out loud man, players from Dundee Utd caley thistle and hibs, that's our summer transfers?? There's a BIGGER problem up there than meets the eye, attractive football? When we seeing that? One upfront, look Ed, your a good man, you do a great job, but this sites about opinions and rumours, and I can't see or hear ANY Celtic fan happy with how the clubs being run, in terms of attracting players, playing attractive football, bringing through youth, scouting systems poors, we're just a poor Scottish club now with NO ambition, get Ronny the yes man to FXXK, we canny stick the Ronny roar anymore, it's embarrassing, yasssssssssss we bet St Johnston, he having a laugh? Malmo 3 days previous just rubber stamped him in a whole, where's our £69m in transfers we're recouped since 2011 they keep on banging on about?? No youth coming through, 2 years in a row NO champions league football, in fact, KNOCKED out the champions league 3 times in one season, the same as last year, need signings, and decent ones at that, before the champions Qualifier, we go for ciftci And Allan, FXXING JOKE, then now we're needing a striker, a midfielder a defender, we buy Christie and loan him back to caley, we buy a defender that the Zagreb fans are laughing at, and we don't get a striker in! No mate, it's a total disgrace the WHOLE RUNNING OF THE CLUB, and what it's became!

{Ed001's Note - I understand what you are saying, it does seem the club are just happy to settle for winning the SPFL and not challenging in Europe, so long as they continue to make a profit. I was just putting forward some other things the club could do, if it was simply about being unable to attract those players that move the club forward. Rather than just saying 'it's all crap', I was trying to suggest how the club could fix these issues. I know full well what will actually happen is that the board will pay themselves well, rather than using the money to do something for the fans. The club has forgotten its roots, it should be about keeping the ticket prices as low as possible while still winning things, not about making a profit. Sadly the current ownership are not interested in what the club was set up for, they are just interested in making money out of it.}


2.) 02 Sep 2015 07:51:19
Your partly right ed001 I think what he meant to say ( or I hope he meant to say) was that we are crying out for a striker. If griffiths gets injured we don't have a proven goalscorer. So a new striker was/is needed doesn't need to be a big name.

{Ed001's Note - yeah, I can see that, was just trying to give a different viewpoint. One suggestion though, what about Forrest up front? Is he any good there? Only he is useless out wide as he can't cross, but his pace could be a useful weapon up top.}


3.) 02 Sep 2015 08:03:30
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4.) 02 Sep 2015 08:42:56
Tim1972 a lot of feeling and understandable frustration. The bottom line is that we ARE a big club with a massive support but we are stuck in a small time league. We can't generate the cash needed to consistently compete with the big guns of Europe (who have arranged the CL so that THEY can have 2 and more clubs dining at the top ). I don't think for one minute that no one in charge of the club did not know we are crying out for a striker but who? No real big names want to come to the Scottish league. Its not that they don't want to come to Celtic. is the league we are in. We have to settle, in most parts, for he young players we can sell on for a good profit.
That said, as Ed pointed out, our directors are not paying themselves accordingly. i'm sure if we looked at the salaries and perks that the big gun club directors get then our lot are pretty much on par. I know its been done to death but I don't want us spending ott for the league we are in (like some clubs not a million miles from Parkhead) but we could afford to up the wage structure to attract a wee bit higher caliber than we get right now. I also like the idea of maybe trying a few changes up front (forrest in the middle is not such a bad option)


5.) 02 Sep 2015 08:47:43
Ed I can see what Tim is saying and note your points as well. I don't think any of us understand what is happening at Celtic. It's not just about paying transfer rates, the player needs to want to come to us and without CL football that proves more difficult. We have signed 18 players in just over a year. 7 are gone and the rest are ok or unproven such as Allan, Cifti, Christie, etc. out of 18 signatures we should have a decent side now and we don't. I hate to say it but Warburton without spending money has got Rangers sorted out. He has only been there two or three months. Ronnie us never going to get us playing this attractive football he talks about. He has not galvanised the side, looks lost in Europe, is winning in SPL but that's a given. If Rangers were in the SPL now they would be 2nd or 3rd. the players Celtic have brought in this transfer window are not going to improve the side in the short term so it's useless fans talking about giving Ronnie time to get his team together. He has signed 18 players!! How many do we give him? No it's time for Ronnie to get the team playing attractive football and holding their own in Europe. If he gets humped in this Europa league it's time to let him go. Actually it's time to let him go now but that won't happen. So Ed the postfromTim is probably like me, he just can't see where we are going with the Ronnie experiment and he is right, we are going nowhere.

{Ed001's Note - what happened to the attractive football Deila was said to play then? Has that not materialised so far? I have only got to see you in Europe and I really wouldn't want to judge you on those games.}


6.) 02 Sep 2015 08:51:40
The way wee James was tackling the other night we could try him at fullback. Big TG had pace and goals to his game.What do you think Ed. Imagine wee James bombing doon the length o the park.

{Ed001's Note - would he have the positional sense required? It is a common move though, failed wingers often end up as full backs.}


7.) 02 Sep 2015 09:00:29
Forrest's biggest problem is decision making. In his second season, when he was only 19 or 20 I think, he scored double figures so he has the ability. What he does is get into great positions and panic. Most of the time the defender takes the ball off him while he's still deciding whether to pass or shoot.


8.) 02 Sep 2015 09:35:40
I think the boy Christie will turn out a good buy, Allan I have no idea as hardly seen him, but Celtic have spent money in recent years albeit on dross, so whoever choosing & buying the players should be getting the bullet.
How many midfielders do we need?


9.) 02 Sep 2015 09:56:58
Marco we do have a proven goal scorer but because our fitness /personal trainer /diet guru has his head so far up his #### he can't back down and use a game plan to suit what he has.


10.) 02 Sep 2015 12:18:25
In what sense are we to consider ourselves a big club? Also, as for being in a small league, it hasn't,t stopped teams in MSL, J league and the Middle East attracting some top, if not fading stars. Now I know that is not what we need or want, but it does disprove the myth about the quality of league being a deciding factor, so it is usually about the cash on offer!
My main worry is that RD seems to be totally oblivious to the scenario unfolding around him. He sounds more and more like the yes man many thought he was and keeps making sound bite statements at odds with any reality.
If we had a manager of any repute, he would have probably resigned after that window, I,m afraid he is our Don Quiote, chasing windmills (look it up).

{Ed007' Note - RD is a coach, people need to modernise their thinking and move away from the old fashioned managers like Stein or Fergie.
There's at least 6 trusted lieutenants at Chelsea who advise Abramovich on players etc before Mourinho is even consulted, they brought in assessors who didn't like AVB's training methods so he was sacked.
Piet de Visser has the authority to sign ANY player he sees anywhere in the world without having to even ask Abramovich to sanction it whether Mourinho likes the player or not. It doesn't matter how much it costs, de Visser has the authority to negotitiate on Chelsea's behalf.
Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern Munich, Man City, Chelsea etc in fact most top continental teams use a system that when the coach or manager leaves there's as little chaos as possible, the head coach is only another transient employ, a cog in the wheel that doesn't have any effect on the way the club is ran at the top level..
Any managers of repute didn't want the job, one in particular refused to work with Peter Lawwell because of his interference and general lack of footballing knowledge.
He's a businessman, not a footballing man, what CEO of a football club holds a meeting without his head coach or manager just to have zonal marking and the difference from man marking explained to him, why does he even need to know that? Is he 9lanning to give tactics talks before games like Romanov at Hearts done?
People are blaming RD for other people's failings, RD isn't in charge of player recruitment, we seen with the Tony Watt situation that he has little power when it comes to selling players and contrary to poualar belief he has nothing to do with contracts, wages or transfer fees paid.
Liverpool lost so much confidence in Brendan Rodgers in the transfer market they brought in a commitee to decide on transfer targets and Rodgers had very little input.
They tried that with NL and look how that turned out, that's why his duties were dwindling in his last 18 months, people in high places seen that he wasn't up to the job so decided to begin looking for either a more experienced manager type or go for a more modern approach where the coach and his team concentrate on the footbaling side of things.
CFC fans are the only fans I know that blame the manager for the board's failings, Man Utd are blaming Ed Woodward for having a terrible window, he couldn't get deals done, Arsenal fans aren't blaming Wenger for failing to close the Benzema deal, they blame the board and Chelsea fans aren't slaughtering Mourinho over missed targets, the fans understand that isn't their jobs.}


11.) 02 Sep 2015 13:36:14
I know RD is the easy target in all this and we are all just venting our frustration and anger, but he is doing himself no favours with some of his statements. Suppose he is damned if does and damned if he doesn't. And he will take the wrap if things don't improve.

{Ed007's Note - Of course the buck stops with the manager/coach, it's the nature of the beast and it couldn't possibly be the fault of a self-serving ego-maniacal CEO who is paid more annually than his Swansea and Southampton counterparts combined.

Peter Lawwell (Feb 2014): 'We’re in arguably the best financial state we’ve ever been in but it makes no sense to keep the money in the bank. We want to invest in the club by investing in good footballers that create value for the club.
Celtic can buy a £6-8m player if the value is there.
We would not buy a 29-year-old at £8m on a four-year contract at £40,000 a week because that is dead money. But if there’s value in signing an £8m player we will look at it.'

Peter Lawwell (Dec 2012): 'We believe we are one of the top European clubs in everything we do. Celtic should be at this level, not just for the revenue but in terms of the profile and exposure for the club.
Every transfer window we get to we aim to be stronger at the other end. January is not the best time to be doing it, but our intention will be to come out of the window stronger, and if that means finding some value in the market then that is what we will do.'

Has Peter Lawwell kept those promises? How can he justify holding onto his job and can anyone honestly say that paying Peter Lawwell the equivalent salary of two EPL clubs CEOs combined is value for money for CFC and the support?}


12.) 02 Sep 2015 15:37:53
So now it's the fans that are now damned if we do, damned if we don't. To hurt the board, we will invariably hurt the team, and to back the team we will appear to condone the boards actions.
Are there any large shareholders/investors who are unhappy with the way things are going, or are they all pissing in the same pot?

{Ed007's Note - Chasa there's something far wrong when there is a Tory lord on the board at Celtic Park, A Conservative member of the House of Lords on the Celtic board - wtf is wrong with people allowing things like to happen, Tory Zionists running our club!
And let's not forget when we had another Lord of the Realm, a tyrannical war-monger who was dripping with the innocent blood of children as our chairman.
Our boardroom is over-run with political scumbags.}


13.) 02 Sep 2015 16:38:59
So I,ll take that as a yeh to the pissing in the same pot then. Is it time to call in Wolfie Smith from the Tooting peoples liberation front for some advice on revolution?


 

 

01 Sep 2015 19:37:50
Really disappointed with the signings is an understatement! £11.5m for van dyke is good for lawwell, but not the football team, there's no investment in the squad, and I can't get my head around the signings of Allan and Christie, never get in our team, but in saying that, they probably will no bother, because we're that far back the way it's unreal to watch it all unfold In front of our eyes! And by the way, was it just me? Or did everybody have a red face on Saturday when Ronny done his roar?? Ooooooooooooofff I've not stopped getting a roasting in my work for him doing that, who's fooling who up there? We need answers, and we need them fast!

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02 Sep 2015 22:13:59
No, because liewells not interested in helping the fans, or what we think! We all know that now, I'll not b renewing my season book again after this year, I said that last year though, but the way the clubs getting ran and the NON exciting signings, and the park the bus 1 up front football, is just NOT cutting it anymore, am 1 unhappy Bhoy!

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02 Sep 2015 07:41:27
Well buying players like Allan and Christie and ciftci proves we're not bringing players through, I know we're never Goney attract a big name now, but for crying out loud man, players from Dundee Utd caley thistle and hibs, that's our summer transfers?? There's a BIGGER problem up there than meets the eye, attractive football? When we seeing that? One upfront, look Ed, your a good man, you do a great job, but this sites about opinions and rumours, and I can't see or hear ANY Celtic fan happy with how the clubs being run, in terms of attracting players, playing attractive football, bringing through youth, scouting systems poors, we're just a poor Scottish club now with NO ambition, get Ronny the yes man to FXXK, we canny stick the Ronny roar anymore, it's embarrassing, yasssssssssss we bet St Johnston, he having a laugh? Malmo 3 days previous just rubber stamped him in a whole, where's our £69m in transfers we're recouped since 2011 they keep on banging on about?? No youth coming through, 2 years in a row NO champions league football, in fact, KNOCKED out the champions league 3 times in one season, the same as last year, need signings, and decent ones at that, before the champions Qualifier, we go for ciftci And Allan, FXXING JOKE, then now we're needing a striker, a midfielder a defender, we buy Christie and loan him back to caley, we buy a defender that the Zagreb fans are laughing at, and we don't get a striker in! No mate, it's a total disgrace the WHOLE RUNNING OF THE CLUB, and what it's became!

tim1972

{Ed001's Note - I understand what you are saying, it does seem the club are just happy to settle for winning the SPFL and not challenging in Europe, so long as they continue to make a profit. I was just putting forward some other things the club could do, if it was simply about being unable to attract those players that move the club forward. Rather than just saying 'it's all crap', I was trying to suggest how the club could fix these issues. I know full well what will actually happen is that the board will pay themselves well, rather than using the money to do something for the fans. The club has forgotten its roots, it should be about keeping the ticket prices as low as possible while still winning things, not about making a profit. Sadly the current ownership are not interested in what the club was set up for, they are just interested in making money out of it.}