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14 Aug 2014 10:19:09
I've seen some articles linking Stuart Armstrong to a move down south.

Do we have any interest in him? I see him as a guy that could come in a play the same role as Brown and eventually take over his role. I really wish we'd went for Stevie May, we'll regret that one. Deila spoke of having more scottish talent in the squad when he came in, these are exactly the kind of guys we need in the team, with a few class foreigners.

Mr ed007, are you aware of any interest we have in any Scottish youth?

Cheers

{Ed007's Note - There was interest in Armstrong last season but I don't know if there still is, I'd be surprised if CFC would pay the type of fee Dundee Utd are looking for.}

1.) I think Armstrong shows enough potential for 2/3 million and wages wouldn't be a problem! I think he showing as much as brown was when we signed him Nd he cost us 4.4m.

2.) 14 Aug 2014 17:03:57
Cheers ed. what about any other Scottish youth?

Do you know why we never went for May?

SOS Bhoy, I think he could slit nicely into the squad, if we don't go for him we'll regret it. He'll end up in the championship or relaxation in the prem. he's the sort of guy I'd have thought we'd be going for.

{Ed007's Note - Sorry but I don't know of any interest in youth players, it's hard to find out anything because of the amount of scouts at youth matches. I can't help with why we were never in for May, perhaps John Park didn't think he was worth the money.}

3.) Yep we will regret it if we don't sign him just another McCarthy as well as many others who have left Scotland! To sign griffiths and not may for the same money what were we thinking?

01 Jun 2014 14:48:33
Does anyone have any ideas as to who the 10 or so candidates are?

I think right now would be a great chance for us to bring some style to the Scottish game, I really would like to see Oscar Garcia, or someone with a background for flair join us.

I'd love to see Lubo back at the club in some capacity, the guy was a natural talent and I'm sure he could pass on some of those tricks to a willing young squad.

Or are we just going to get mad Roy Keane?

1.) Hi BigDave

I think there is a phenomenal opportunity right now to bring in an unproven hands on coach with big ambitions. The nature of the domestic league is such that CFC have an opportunity to adapt to a style that is more pleasing on the eye, IE "domestically" at least the margin for error is significant so we can tinker here and there and keep plugging away to derive a better passing style, more possession etc. NL did have CFC playing some good stuff at times; and before anyone shoots me down about the very poor level of opponent, you can only beat what is in front of you at the end of the day!

When you look at the first 11 and the 4 or 5 others on the periphery, there is definitely a nucleus of a decent team there (player sales aside)

Forster, Lustig (or Matthews, Izzy (or Mulgrew), Virgil, Ambrose (or Lustig/or Mulgrew), Brown, Johansen, Forrest, Commons, Stokes and Griffiths (with Biton, Henderson) is certainly not the worst eleven we have had to endure in the past 30 years.

The problem has always been the elusive number "10" in the moravcik mould but the worry has always been the high level of exposure (when you don't have the ball) caused by these marquee/luxury players; domestically we can square that circle but in Europe?

A new manager would probably make room for the hard core and build around that, but the "style and approach" will be governed by the new Head Coach's philosophy.

If money was no object (and fitness was guaranteed for the current squad) I think you could go with a 4 - 3 - 1 - 2 with 1 of the 3 in the middle and the 3 up top alternating between the middle of the park and wider areas, bearing in mind the 2 full backs aren't so bad at posing as old style wing backs (if the set-up is to become (as would be inevitable in my set-up) a little bit narrower from middle to front)

In a 4 - 3 - 1 -2 scenario you could conceivably go with "commons" as the pivot between midfield and attack. Stokes and Griffiths up top (both of whom are perfectly capable of drifting left and right (albeit there is a tendency for Stokes and Griffiths to move "left" more so than right. In that scenario, you would be relying on Matthews as the careering right back to give you width and balance (when attacking)

Lustig would come in to the centre of defence with Virgil and Izzy would be your left back/wing back (not for his defensive qualities per se but because you can get a great shift out of Izzy and he is always willing!)

Mulgrew, Brown and Johansen would be your middle 3 with Johansen asked to sweep right and left (between midfield and defence) when the opposition break (depending on what side of the park they break on, Johansen would be the "protector"

Brown would be the run-about-mad traditional central midfielder and Mulgrew (with the right encouragement) could be the guy asked to mix things up in terms of offering a range of passing, taking the ball from the defenders and plotting searching passes etc.

The team above would be a sensible option for Europe as Stokes and Griffiths can hold the ball up and can come deep. A slightly more defensive approach (naturally) but we would still have 3 to 4 pretty good players on the park capable of match winning set pieces and excellent delivery (Griffiths, Mulgrew, Stokes and Commons)

For me Commons doesn't have the legs for out wide and is never a striker and could (with the right support and set up) find a role in that part of the park between the half way line and the 18 yard box, IE the number "10" we all want but don't have…he could conceivably be a cheap option in that regard!

There is definitely something to work on there.

If NL is to be believed, we could even have Biton playing as one of the middle 3 with Mulgrew moving to left back for the more dangerous European games where we need a bit of height and weight (sorry Izzy)

In the above line-up, you have a "core" and a team difficult to beat. You won't have pace in abundance but the introduction of Forrest (depending on the opponent and the way the match is going) would be an interesting addition.

The "ideal" scenario would involve a new striker (penalty box type) in the mould of Finbogosson but I can see why CFC PLC would be reluctant to splash the cash on such a player (+£5m) because that type of "pigeonholed" player that operates in a very small area of the park can take away from the robustness of the overall approach and strategy of the whole team.

I don't think we can afford a domestic team and a european team so I think we should "perfect" a set-up and yes, when the time is right and the opponent merits little respect, you can go with a more dynamic middle to front approach (less narrow) but the basis should be about rock-solid triangulate set-ups

In defence Virgil / Lustig and 1 of the middle 3 dropping back

In the middle of the park Brown, MUlgrew and Johanssen when 1 of the 3 is not required to back up the 2 centre halves

and up top, Griffiths, Stokes and Commons.

We have a great big goalie and decent cover at full back

so the quadruple next year …IE Europa League, League, Scottish Cup and League Cup (make it 5 and include the Glasgow Cup!)

2.) 01 Jun 2014 17:01:30
8 candidates a think we are defo speaking 2 are probs keane, coyle, malky, garcia, petrescu, laudrup, mcnamara, moyes no sure on the other 2

3.) The problem with gifted players is they cannot pass a gift on to lesser players.Glen Hoddle, arguably the most gifted player England ever produced, said the same when he was managing.

4.) Mad roy keane? we/us celtic supporters are the ones that's mad!a proper legend of the game a guy that's won champions leagues played at the highest level and respected around the world and us mad people don't want him!?mental!a terrific opportunity for him and us to have a big name in the hotseat for a change!he will have lennys muppets like stokes balde brown etc shakin in their boots cause they might need to get fit to play now

5.) 01 Jun 2014 18:05:17
paradisewon, why do you feel such a need to bring in an 'unproven' manager? It's almost a fashion statement in football now and rarely pays off. Just asking. I'd much rather see someone come in who has done and seen it all. I know that's not what we'll get though, wether it be because we're and SPFL club or because we're skimpers, it just won't happen. Given the two names, Coyle and Keane, who have been seriously linked, I'd prefer Keane. But that's only because the other option is Coyle. Would anybody's first choice be Keane?

6.) Hi JimJim

not saying the coach should be unproven per se, more alluding to the idea that such is the state of our game domestically, that an unproven coach with bright ideas may not be a bad option, or certainly shouldn't be discounted (due to lack of experience)

proven coaches (the ones we can get) will all have histories, so there will be baggage …those who have experience and have a midas touch will be out with our reach unless they have won 13 in a row in liechtenstein

7.) 01 Jun 2014 19:51:23
Fair enough, somebody with perhaps a more continental approach to how a game should be played? A philosophy would you say? In that sense you're right, it would be fresh and exciting. I'm not one to discount a proven track record though.

8.) Natural talents like Lubo usually find it near impossible to develop other players . What is natural to them is impossible for ordinary players to learn .

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14 Aug 2014 17:03:57
Cheers ed. what about any other Scottish youth?

Do you know why we never went for May?

SOS Bhoy, I think he could slit nicely into the squad, if we don't go for him we'll regret it. He'll end up in the championship or relaxation in the prem. he's the sort of guy I'd have thought we'd be going for.

{Ed007's Note - Sorry but I don't know of any interest in youth players, it's hard to find out anything because of the amount of scouts at youth matches. I can't help with why we were never in for May, perhaps John Park didn't think he was worth the money.}