07 Jan 2016 16:14:13
Going to post something serious (for me it is hard I know)
I cannot tell you how many years I have supported the Bhoys, first as a kid with my uncle taking me to the games (my dad suffered ill health) then with all my mates in my teens frequenting the old Jungle, which I loved as the atmosphere was amazing, (ah yes the atmosphere, I will touch on that later) I also loved travelling on the supporters bus home and away and even in europe, great memories. Bought my first season ticket yonks ago, then when the girls were old enough they got their season tickets we all LOVED going to Paradise to watch the team.
Why am I boring you with my history, because apparently these days if you dare to disagree with Ronnie you are classed as "disloyal, unfaithful, not a true Celtic supporter" etc. The Delia apologists and that is exactly what they are, will not tolerate any dissenting voices of their beloved Norwegian "genius"
Well friends, I LOVE Celtic Football Club and it is precisely because of this I feel I have to speak out about the way Mr Deila and the other "custodians" are taking our club. I am aware the bold Peter, our majority shareholder Mr Desmond and our chairman Mr Bankier also have played big roles in downgrading my beloved Celtic. (Mr Bankier also appears to look at supporters like myself with disdain, how dare he)
Being of a certain age I have experienced more ups and downs than most of you on here, the scintillating years under Big Jock, Caesar's reign as a manager too during our centenary year. Many other good times too many to mention. Then all the lows, again too many, culminating with Barnes as our manager. But even during these depressing times I still LOVED Celtic Football Club. But now under Deila and this board I have fell out of love with my club, his boring style of play, his incompetance as a manager, unable to change a game by a simple tactical change, people like Lawwell promising us fans the moon then gives us the ocean floor. The atmosphere (remember that guys, people from all over the world used to rave about Parkheads great atmosphere) not any more Deila has killed it stone dead.
I am hoping to get my passion back for my celoved Celtic Football club but cannot see it returning under Delia's or this board's reign, so come on all you Ronnie apologists tell me ONE positive thing I can cling on to under his tenorship.

1.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 16:47:11
Well Ronny is good at the bull Tim I will give him that lol.

2.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 17:39:09
Timalloy, maybe you are an example of what happens when old age takes a grip. i know I am going into my late 60's myself and I don't jump around like an idiot in the jungle nor am I able to go to every match like I could years ago.

However when I go to a comedian's show if Crowd don't participate and encourage the comedian will die a death and the show will be not v enjoyable . Similarly I went to the High Kings in concert recently, the crowd was brilliant, the singing matched and we had a great night .
At Celtic games, particularly home games, crowd is mute, groans over a mis place pass are often the loudest noise . This doesn't help player or manager confidence and team display suffers .
Most of us cannot pinpoint who is responsible . It could be DD, PL, J P or it could be RD, JC or JK or it could be the players .
In any case we as supporters cannot correct or change any of the above personnel, but both individually and a group as Celtic supporters we can improve the atmosphere at Celtic Park, Improved atmosphere will lift the players and help to create even better atmosphere.

3.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 18:05:47
here timbo wur you oan the titanic?
did ye survive?

4.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 18:45:21
Old Bhoy thanks for the response but I believe Tim is talking about you and he is quite right to do so. Yes Tim it is not a great time is it and I am from the same era.

5.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 18:52:37
TimalloyYou are So Right, I cannot endorse enough what you said, I got my first Celtic shirt aged 4 in the very, very early 60's, I have never failed to support, rant, criticise and celebrate the path of CFC ever since, the Scars of the 90's are still with me, the joys of the 70's warm my heart, MoN years still bring exictment, big signings, great football, you know what I am talking about. Now we have this, indefensible rubbish, third rate players strutting their stuff, yes man manager and hand picked double yes men staff, but I still believe that someday soon the sun will shine again, we can have creativity, desire, skill on the pitch.
Could go on for ever but,
Tiocfaidh ar la.

6.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 18:52:47
Tim if you have actually fallen out of love with the club then you can't point fingers. You have to look inside for somebody to blame. Surely a gentleman of your age has see worse times and came through.

7.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 19:12:56
Old Bhoy, I gave it a go at Thistle game and was made to feel embarrassed by thelooks from those around me (Im just in my early 60's and have always enjoyed a good singalong at parties games etc. Yes, as a kid, I even sang the wrong ones but I had no idea what I was singing about but it was a good tune and I got to swear and have a go at the Gers)

8.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 19:26:44
A heartfelt post Tim and very similar to my own experiences with my team. I longed for the days of my youth, that exciting Saturday morning feeling that you were heading up to paradise for a 3pm kick off, a good crowd in the jungle, pie and bovril at half time and then home for a chippy and a few beers with the mates. Then the money stripped away the enjoyment (my lack of it after the missus fell pregnant! Lol! ) and the moneymen got involved with every aspect of football. Now, I can't afford the long trip South to see the Hoops financially and time wise, and to watch what? Piss poor football from a piss poor manager. I have long thought that RD was shoed in to the job as a quick replacement for Lenny and had been untested at our level. I don't care if I get called a hater, RD needs to be sacked/ replaced as soon as or we may find the sheep will sneak up on us. I love Celtic, always have and always will until the day I leave this mental gig.

9.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 19:29:29
The 4 kings? . any wonder you're a Ronnie fan old bhoy. One's as bad as the other.

10.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 19:40:24
I agree with your post Tim, I can't understand why certain people on here get so angry at any criticism of the manager. What I find strange is that the same people are quite happy in criticizing Lawwell, Park, and Desmond, despite the fact that these are the people who appointed Delia.
If Delia is such a great manager, then surely the board must be brilliant as well for having the vision to appoint him.
I think the manager is a dud who was brought in because he was cheap, that's all this board want, cheap rubbish players, and now a cheap rubbish manager to coach them.

11.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 19:44:58
Thanks guys for all the responses, some seem to agree with me which is a first lol
Old Bhoy yes we fans must play our part but so must Ronnie and the players give us something to shout and sing and get excited about the atmosphere is flat because of deila.
JimTim yes I have lived through much worse periods in celtic's history but even in the darkest days the team every now and then gave us something to get excited about, how many games have we been off our seats under deila I could count them on one hand.
TinyTim like yourself I have tried with a few others to get a sing song going but nobody else joins in as they are all too bored with what is going on the pitch.
Back to OldBhoy my Jimmy Johnstone remark was a joke (maybe you are too old now to recognise one) and yes it was meant as a wee dig at Ronnie in that he would not recognise a player of wee Jinky's quality and would not know where to play him.

12.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 20:36:09
TTTS The four Kings? What are u talking about?
Are you another one who doesn't know that you are allowed to behave differently in Celtic Park than a Funeral home .
Maybe some could get. themselves hired out as extras at funerals .

13.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 21:21:58
I totally concur with Timaloy, yes we have been through poorer and worse spells in the early 90's and Barnes and Mowbray era's but there was always hope and belief that things would get better and they did, in these cases we had a stronger challenge facing us from Deadco, not in Deila's time and under him and the present board we don't have any hope or belief for a brighter future, we are in reverse gear in terms of quality with things probably going to keep getting worse .

14.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 21:32:58
Chris, people show their support for the team by going to the games, how much noise they make when they are there doesn't make any difference in my view.
If these supposedly top players can't perform against Kilmarnock, Motherwell, and Patrick Thistle, then I think that the problem lies with the players and not the crowd, players from other clubs who get far lower gates than us, seem to be able to motivate themselves, so there is no excuse for our players.
They might actually find that if they did start performing, then they might start getting a bit more noise from the crowd.

15.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 21:55:54
A great post timalloy, although i'm not as long in the tooth, i echo your sentiment. And whole heartedly agree with every word. I posted a few weeks ago, that watching celtic just now was knocking me ill, and it is, its morale sapping and draining watching your beloved team play like that week after week. RD is one of many who are to blame. But as manager he must be the first on the chopping block. Someone has to take the bull by the horns and pull us out of the hole we are stumbling into. And RD is not the man to do it. The whole feeling around the club is not what were used to and its quite unsettling.

16.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 21:58:26
Lol Timalloy, you were mibe sitting up behind me and my kids? Couple of lads from the older generation shall we say, trying to get something started but along with my kids were drawn dirty looks or given the odd comment!
"Best fans in the world" my ar5e!
Place has tumbleweed running through it, takes a refs bad decision for some supporters to make some noise, and also to dependable on the untouchable GB lol

The club can't get bums on seats or as much as in the past and no wonder watching that mince! Said it before, I'll take an ugly win all day if need be but the 3 games at home before that weren't wins and were playing against rubbish.

I 100% agree everyone that attends should be willing to cheer the team on, most don't!
But we need to be given something to cheer also, over inflated prices to watch mediocre football at best.
Not entirely sure if it's down to Ronny or not? But I know he's trying best with what he has (just about) lol.

17.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 22:14:35
Your all doom and gloom Timalloy I think that Ronny will turn it around and get us to the Champions League and beyond, we as fans can't understand what it's like to be out on the park knowing that if you draw or lose you will still be Champions.
I hate to say it but I'm not a fan of the GB constantly singing at home games, I think the team have to earn our cheers.

18.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 22:46:51
Gerryc Two or three thousand fans can create a good atmosphere and lift their players in a small 8/ 10k capacity .
With Celtic's massive capacity it takes tens of thousands supporters to create the atmosphere to help team .
I know people can claim it is RD's and the players responsibility, and no doubt that could be right . However Celtic supporters should want the team to do well and should support, motivate build confidence even if it isn't their responsibility .

How can a supporter blame RD if he hasn't done his job in supporting .

19.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 23:20:55
Good football = good atmosphere, full stadium.
Poor football = poor atmosphere, half empty stadium.
Its not rocket science. Its all about the quality of the football. Play good football and every thing else sorts itself out.

20.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 23:23:14
I agree with a lot of the above posts. I will be 60 this year and have enjoyed loads of great times following Celtic. The worst time for me was 1993 to 1998 when I lived in Armadale and felt like the token Tim as the other crowd were working their way towards 9 in a row but even then we played some good attacking football in patches and always believed that we could beat them. Even through those times, we sang our hearts out. Wether you agree with the arguments or not, a large percentage of our support don't believe in or trust our manager and board or our present style of play so will find it very difficult to sing at the games.

21.) 07 Jan 2016
07 Jan 2016 23:28:05
So old Bhoy you think that all we need to do is to shout and cheer and tell everyone how great we are and everything will be wonderful? On that basis if kilmarnock fans shout like mad they might win the SPL? Nonesense yet again from you.

22.) 08 Jan 2016
08 Jan 2016 00:10:57
Johnymac, if you can remember back to the Partick Thistle game last week end . The game was dead until about the 80th minute the fans woke up and the positive chants went round the stadium and all of a sudden our ten men started passing to each other, raised the tempo of the game and we scored and won .
Bhrydobhoy theory re supporters input just goes against what many great football legends around Europe has said . Of course he knows better than some of the top Italien, Argentianian Spanish English and many more stars have said .
They talk about the atmosphere at Celtic Park been incredible, worth more than a goal start .
Does it matter if it is the team's responsibility to create this atmosphere? Surely I thought all Celtic supporters want the one thing Celtic victory game after game .
To those who are getting ill and having their morale sapped out of them, that shouldn't happen and if they do their best supporting and still get sick maybe they are at the wrong sport .

23.) 08 Jan 2016
08 Jan 2016 06:59:42
Old bhoy that post is utter garbage as per usual. The top stars said all that stuff before the the current management staff were in charge. So that nullifies that drivel. Of course it matters and it is the teams responsibility to entertain and create a good vibe for the fans. Much like RD is turning the fans off at Celtic park your doing likewise, your sustained posts of shambolic nonsense and claiming fans should just cheer all the time is turning fans off this site.

24.) 08 Jan 2016
08 Jan 2016 07:34:03
I meant the high kings old bhoy, they are as boring as you and RD.

25.) 09 Jan 2016
09 Jan 2016 00:21:58
Bhrydobhoy you are posting nonsense . Celtic park has rocked at Champions League matches under various managers and I have no doubt if we all manage to get up into the Champions League next season it will rock again .
Some of our fans, like yourself seem to think we deserve better and can sit back moan and groan in the stands and post negative nonsense on forums and then become great supporters in the Champions League .
None of us deserve better, if we are Celtic supporters we have to support ever match, every player etc .