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01 Aug 2024 02:27:31
Hi WeeJoe I thought I'd reply to your post
1/ 2: I agree that we have a pattern of missing out on players and often fail to get players in for crucial qualifiers and early league/ cup games, which has seen us crash out several times.
Going off of our current situation, Rodgers has mentioned numerous times that we have identified players, and he has sat with Nicholson to select targets. Suppose this happened 3/ 4 months before the season ended. In that case, I agree that we should have been negotiating targets and had them ready for the season starting at the weekend. But you assume the club hasn't identified targets early and is negotiating proactively. A good example is Bernardo; we have been negotiating for months for Bernardo, who was already at the club. Benfica wanted 6 million, which the club felt was too high; considering he has played 1,443 minutes this season (16 full games) and is valued as 2.9 million on transfermarkt, I completely agree that it is too high. Benfica can take as long as they want to hold off for a fee they want, then agents hold off for big fees, which is an even bigger issue as they often squeeze the deal for every penny, and then Bernardo has to agree with the wage. All of this for a player who was already at the club proves how long it can drag out when a player and a club have a specific value that is unrealistic. I would rather sit for an extra three weeks for a player if the club isn't overpaying. An example of being proactive is when we signed Hart and McCarthy; one paid off, and the other lost us huge amounts of money; taking our time for the right deal doesn't mean they are twiddling their thumbs.
3: Lifestyle, competitiveness, weather, etc., impact players' choice of move. It's held-up moves all over football, not just us; it's something that we can't change. The league needs to step up, and we can pray for the sun to come, but it is what it is. In terms of selling the club, I completely agree about how attractive we can make it. Still, when we take our Celtic glasses off, 99% of players look at money, weather and lifestyle over the legacy and history of clubs. Look at the world of football we are in; an example is Gabri Veiga, one of the hottest Spanish prospects ready to sign for Madrid with all their money, legacy, and prestige, who has chosen to move to Saudi Arabia. We are often beaten to players by Championship clubs who have way less to offer in terms of fans, prestige and history, but they have the potential of the Prem and can offer more money; it's just the reality.
4: I'm not disagreeing that we have cheaped out on players in the past. Steven Fletcher mentioned that the closest he ever came to joining was in 2020 before he signed for Stoke, which shows that maybe we didn't try to go for him as much as we thought.
The point of negotiations is to offer a price we feel is justifiable, and then we negotiate to a deal that suits both clubs; we often see a report that we have had a bid rejected, but that doesn't mean that we haven't already begun to negotiate more, look at Atalanta they've done that with MOR it's part of football. Look at Idah; his fair market value is £2.95 million. Transfermarkt said we had 4 million rejected, which is 1/ 3 higher than his value. Obviously, Norwich wants 11 million, which is 3.7x his fair market value price. When we have jumped the gun and offered large sums of money, it has come back to bite us; Simunovic was 5.5million, Rafael Scheidt for 5 million, which is equivalent to £10,944,342 in 2023, Ajeti was 5 million, Bernabei 3.75 million. It proves that when you don't follow the definition of negotiation, you leave yourself open to exploitation.
I couldn't agree more about the need for Transparency and Communication, which has been a significant issue for us. The board needs to be more open to discussion and fan input. At times, it feels like we're seen as a source of guaranteed cash, whether it's through new shirts that we don't even wear, increasing season book prices, or halting stadium upgrades. This lack of transparency extends to long-term aspirations and transfer updates, which we need more information about.
6: I used the example of Idah, as this is the main issue currently taking over the window. I agree with most that Lennon should not have been back to see out 10 in a row, and the transfer negligence has only further halted communication and transparency. But look at this season. We have a month left of the window, and we need 4-5 players in. All we can do is hope they meet Rodgers' expectations and get the players he wants.
I don't think Kyogo1888 is defending the board; he's trying to explain the transfer situation in a way that most people seem to identify with. You've made some great points, WeeJoe, but you've missed the point of the post pal.