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01 Aug 2024 13:36:34
Idah season long loan now being discussed, Celtic and Norwich too far apart in terms of transfer fee, but player wants to go and seen as sensible approach right now. expect to be completed over the weekend.
1.) 01 Aug 2024 14:06:57
That sounds promising Gerry.
2.) 01 Aug 2024 14:38:53
If this doesn't have an option to buy come the end of the season I'm going to flip ma lid.
3.) 01 Aug 2024 14:57:56
Would be a good move, we get him for a year and I hope if successful we know how much it will cost to make it permanent. Allows us to spend the funds elsewhere.
4.) 01 Aug 2024 15:20:30
Better than nothing I suppose as long as it is a loan to buy at a sensible price, as there will be no haggling with Norwich as we did with Benfica to lower it.
Hope this is just not gossip and we can get on with other signings.
Baldy looking at more experienced freebies, no sell on values but hoping to challenge us on a budget and qualif for group stages.
A quality CB, if not O'Shea, someone with his quality and experience, as we will need it in CL. We may be strong offensively but defensively we need to be tighter.
The Wolves LB appears to be a no go, so an alternative is a must.
5.) 01 Aug 2024 17:55:42
I don't understand why Norwich would let him go out on loan with an option to buy rather than just sell him - it doesn't make sense.
6.) 01 Aug 2024 18:26:12
I wonder from Celtics end who’s responsible for the difference in valuation, probably the same individual who wouldn’t pay an extra 1m for John mcginn when he was at Hibs.
7.) 01 Aug 2024 18:47:16
Pretty pathetic to be honest if it’s true Celtic won’t pay the fee for Idah, I understand both the buyer and seller may have differences in valuation but Celtic have qualified for the CL for the 3rd season in a row, posted incredible profits and haven’t spent a penny so far this summer to improve the squad. Norwich are reportedly after 7m which seems to be a fair amount.
We sold Oh and haksabanovic for a reported combined fee of £5m, and I’m led to believe the Bernardo deal is done for £3.5m, along with the £1m spent on the goalkeeper Sinisalo. We’ve actually made a profit so far!
Idah is young, massive potential, and a high chance of a high re-sale value in the future who no doubt will vastly improve under Rodgers.
it’s a total smack in the face from the club to us fans who are the ones who pay money into the club and are constantly let down by the individuals who make these decisions, pay the bloody money Celtic.
06 Dec 2020 00:58:08
The league is gone, in truth it was probably done before today but no point dwellng on it now. Give Lennon the cup final and a chance to complete another treble then find some 'mutual agreement' to allow him to leave with a bit of a pay off (I don't expect him to resign when he's due a decent amount, let's be fair he'll never have a job paying this well again) .
There's no rush to make another appointment, its all about planning for next season so just make sure we get it right. Would be nice to win the Scottish Cup as last thing I want is to see them do a treble. Finishing second is a must too of course.
If we're all honest, this 9iar is poor and distant relation of the 9iar under Jock Stein, there is no comparison between the two. And if we'd managed to do the 10 it would almost devalue what the Lisbon Lions achieved.
Bring on next season, we go again HH.
1.) 07 Dec 2020 08:13:24
No rush to make another appointment Gerry? U do realise that we need to finish second as there are 2 spots for champions league qualification available. At the min we will struggle to get second. Change is needed now to spot more dropped points.
2.) 07 Dec 2020 09:16:23
We need to be planning ahead, feckin sick to death of trying to scrape through the qualifiers. Systematic failures that have us where we are now.
3.) 07 Dec 2020 10:23:57
The league isn't gone if the board are decisive and remove Lennon today and appoint a genuinely good manager. Kennedy, or John Collins, or Henriuck Larsson aren't the answer.
It's 13 points with an unassailable goal difference, so effectively 14 points. We have two games in hand and three derbies. That's 15 points IF we act now and get in someone competent who can organise a defence and motivate a team with fresh ideas and who has some knowledge of sports science and fitness.
If Lennon is allowed to stay till the cup final, we will be atleast 18 adrift and have lost the cup to Hearts.
4.) 07 Dec 2020 11:47:07
I agree with you Lennonout but I think even when we get a new manager in it's going to take a couple of games to get that side playing like a football team again too many bad habits have got in there.
5.) 07 Dec 2020 13:07:22
You're spot on tony2bhoy, but a decent manager can usually get a reaction in a short space of time even though it'll take a while to properly implement his ideas. anyone who can organise a defence will be an improvement.
these aren't bad players, they just look spent. they haven't looked fit for months. they need a lift and to get the ball moving quicker, and some movement off the ball.
people criticise brown for going sideways, but they're generally isn't a forward pass. Eddie is surrounded by 10 defenders, so either can't get the ball or goes wide and there's no one in the box. it'll also help to play players in the correct positions. don't be shoehorning people in just because of a name. Christie isn't the same out wide. he's a ten.
Lennon needs to go today and the board need to spend the money on a quality manager. jack ross, john collins, even Larsson won't excite the fans (at least not the sensible ones) and then they run the risk of an empty stadium next year.
I remember Rodgers said he gave the players a dossier each week on the guy they were likely to be up against. Lennon says he doesn't even do match analysis .
6.) 07 Dec 2020 16:26:29
All we need from a new manager is some organisation and some basic tactics. I'd be fine with grinding out 1-0s or 2-1s until we go to Poundland, and hopefully, come away with a draw. We can start to think about attractive football improvements after that. Just get some organisation and effort into the team.
7.) 07 Dec 2020 17:45:46
We need a win there IF we have any chance of winning the league So strange saying this at the start of December but that is how far we have fallen the longer it takes to get a new manager in the less chance IF we have one at all of regaining the title sadly enough.
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07 Sep 2024 19:26:25
Not a fan of international football as a rule, but surely no more compelling game than Ireland v England. The amount of English players playing for Ireland, Irish players playing for England, not to mention the manager.
From a Celtic pov, Idah was poor, didn’t get into the game at all, no Scales either. But on Lee Carsley, if you’ll indulge me there is a Celtic link, almost!
I’m a big fan of Carsley, always was for Everton and Ireland. But there is a rumour that Real Madrid got him and Gravesen mixed up! They did look alike in fairness, but somehow signed the wrong player. Surely nonsense, but a great story. Anyway, we got Gravesen off them when they realised he wasn’t good enough, who knows, in an alternative universe we might have had Carsley!
{Ed007's Note - I don't know if it's true, Gerry but that was definitely the story going about back when it happened.}
1.) 07 Sep 2024 22:04:37
I remember hearing the story but let's be serious no club is that stupid and don't forget gravesen was very food for everton. Remember when people said we signed the wrong bangura ??.
2.) 08 Sep 2024 07:43:07
Or the wrong transfer fee for Martin hayes.
3.) 08 Sep 2024 16:40:51
Lee Carsley a future Celtic manager?
4.) 08 Sep 2024 20:13:03
No chance, he’s got zero interest in Celtic and I wouldn’t want him in any case!
5.) 09 Sep 2024 18:43:49
Adam Idah is still finding his feet after signing permanently, I think £9.5m is a big fee but that’s what happen if you shop in the English market even poor players go for stupid money, if he repeats what he did on loan he’ll be worth the investment .
06 Sep 2024 11:29:25
Controversial post alert - Not a lot to worry about at the moment as Celtic fans but I'll throw something out there, I reckon Luke McCowan will be a better singing for us than Arne Engles.
I hope both do well obviously, I've just got a feeling McCowan will prove to be a wee gem. Ultimately how we judge it will take time and many different measures, and I accept it’s likely that Engels may leave for more money eventually, but on goal contributions over this season and next, even on the eye test, I think Luke might shade him.
Far too early to judge either of course, and I won't let transfer fees cloud my judgement, but let's see how it plays out.
1.) 06 Sep 2024 15:49:08
I was more impressed with McCowan on Sunday but you’re right, it’s early days.
Hopefully both are brilliant signings ?.
03 Sep 2024 15:03:26
If anyone is like me they might find this interesting, our record transfers when fees adjusted for inflation;
Odsonne Edouard £11.3m
Chris Sutton £11.1m
Arne Engels £11m
John Hartson £10.9m
Neil Lennon £10.5m
Rafael Scheidt £10.2m
Eyal Berkovic £10.2m.
1.) 03 Sep 2024 15:40:55
Good info gerry, the last two guys on the list, money straight down the drain. I try not to think about them, but every now and then when the moon slips behind the clouds, and the cold wind whistles, a shivery shudder runs down my spine.
2.) 03 Sep 2024 16:15:27
Big hartson kicking berkovic around barrowfield didn't help his career.
3.) 03 Sep 2024 16:40:44
Was that not at West Ham drb.
4.) 03 Sep 2024 18:01:50
It was west ham. Then eyal was reluctant to leave until big John came in and then he ran out the door. ?.
5.) 03 Sep 2024 18:51:55
Didn't somebody do him here as well? Probably tosh McKinley ??.
6.) 03 Sep 2024 19:33:25
Tosh headbutted the king.
7.) 03 Sep 2024 20:16:57
Little Jofis
I was at a speakers night a few weeks back with Tosh and Hartson in Graces’s with ma laddie.
The first question Tosh was asked was about the ‘fight between him and Larson.
Tosh said ‘Where am fae a fight is when somebody manages tae hit ye back’.
He was then asked ‘What did it do for your relationship’. What do you f* think it did for our f* relationship? he said.
The biggest legend we’ve had in ma lifetime he said and I decided tae nut him.
He was hilarious.
03 Sep 2024 08:27:05
The chat about the stadium makes sense, as everyone points out we’ve £100m in the bank. We can’t use it for player transfers or wages - as I’ve tried to explain before to people money in the bank means nothing in a P&L statement, your accounts will still show a loss for the year.
But FFP regs does allow for spending on things like, stadium, infrastructure, non-playing activities basically.
So the best thing we can do with that money is put another 20k seats in the stadium surely, that could generate up to another £20m pa in match day revenue.
{Ed001's Note - are you referring to UEFA's financial regs? Or is this something Scottish only you are talking about? If you are talking about UEFA's PSR, that is based on revenue, nothing to do with P&L statements, losses or profits. It has been simplified to simply limiting spending to a percentage (IIRC this season it will be 70%) of revenue on transfer fees, agent fees and salaries of all staff. It doesn't matter if the club overall makes a loss or profit, so long as you spend less than the %age allowable on those things.
FFP has gone now as UEFA level. Though, as you can probable tell, spending on things other than wages, agent fees and transfer fees, is outside of the remit and is allowed. So your idea is still relevant, but just your understanding of why is incorrect if you are talking about UEFA regulations.
Sorry, I know I am being pedantic, but sometimes I can't help myself!}
1.) 03 Sep 2024 10:19:32
Hi all hope you are well
I agree Gerry, we should be upgrading the stadium. We could even do that in a gradual way. The south west corner could have an upper tier bringing it round to the south stand. I'm not sure how many seats we would increase by, but would be a few thousand and help stave off the waiting list a bit. It would pay for itself over a few years.
2.) 03 Sep 2024 13:46:43
Another 20k seats? I don't think we could fill them, another 10k more realistic.
{Ed007's Note - We can't fill the stadium as it is apart from the Derby and CL games.}
3.) 03 Sep 2024 14:34:00
We could easily seell them, we have upwards of 10k already on waiting list for season tickets. Wether we fill it or not depends on other things.
Part of the problem is the amount of Sunday and midweek games, I've got a season ticket but like 1000s of other I live in England, it's not always possible to make non-Saturday games. People travelling from Ireland have the same issue.
we had average attendances of 20-30k over the 80s/ 90s but upped the capacity to 60k. If you build it they will come.
{Ed007's Note - But they aren't coming, for whatever reason it's still empty seats and the atmosphere is bad enough without extending the stadium and expect 2 groups of fans to try and create any atmosphere.
Until there is a system in place where supporters can resell their tickets for games the can't make there's no point in even considering any extension, let's concentrate on getting the seats we already have filled at every game.}
4.) 03 Sep 2024 15:28:07
Agree with that Ed, always put it on my fan survey. Most English teams do it so absolutely no excuse.
{Ed007's Note - Them 'uns at Ibrox do it.}
5.) 03 Sep 2024 16:05:34
My seat is in the main stand and the facilities are atrocious and antiquated. We should be looking to redevelop the seating area in some way. I’m obviously not an architect but if front needs to stay then would creating a steeper seated area be an option? Personally I doubt raising capacity is a priority as club could set up a resale site and generate extra revenue after all seats are sold on initial release then resell season ticket seats.
{Ed007's Note - My ST was in there as well and it was rough 12 years ago when I gave it up.}
6.) 03 Sep 2024 16:32:51
The Celtic Directors have never cared that there’s empty seats because those empty seats have already been paid for.
That’s why the Attendance is Officially recorded as 58,000 but only about 53,000 is actually in the Stadium.
Celtic could accommodate another 10,000 season tickets at least because that’s what’s on the waiting list.
But that will probably mean more empty seats that’s already been paid for.
7.) 03 Sep 2024 18:01:36
If it wasn't for the GB, the atmosphere would be terrible. Imagine the atmosphere with a 70-80k stadium with loads more empty seats. Tbh, it would be embarrassing. That said, a bit of me thinks Celtic are keeping money aside to increase the capacity should the Crumbledomes capacity be increased in say 5 or 10 years down the line.
{Ed007's Note - Michael Nicholson said at the 2022 AGM that "The South Stand is a historic asset and previous feasibility studies suggest more than £100m to expand it – there is limited capital to invest and we need to invest on the pitch. Long term we’d like to look at it but not at moment."
8.) 03 Sep 2024 19:26:42
I can't see us ever expanding the stadium whilst in Scottish football and I don't think we need to, Maybe if there ever was an European league we might do it.
I think the money is maybe being kept for refurbishments and possibly the museum and hotel.
{Ed007's Note - One of the things I always said they should look at is putting another standing section in the opposite corner of the North Stand from the NC but the plans are in for adding 455 safe standing seats at the corner diagonally across from the NC in the BHOYS CELTIC new section.}
9.) 04 Sep 2024 15:27:33
That would be a very good idea, it would enhance the atmosphere even more.
28 Aug 2024 20:44:21
Honestly, some fans would have us just throw money away for the sake of it. £6.5m for an MLS player is plenty. There is no defending at all in that league, guys like Gauld and Morgan can look like superstars. Move on.
As for the other guy. If Augsburg don’t want to sell then fair play to them, he’s their player. We don’t sell players for less than we think they are worth so why should anyone else. And conversely, we should not pay more than we think someone is worth.
MOR was a great player last season, but Mooy kept him out the team year before, and Reo spent most of the season injured. We are in decent shape. There is nothing to panic about.
I want us to sign a CH and fully expect us to. And I reckon there could be a wildcard loan signing in too. Thank god there is only a couple of days of this nonsense left and we can concentrate on the football and murdering that lot on Sunday.
1.) 28 Aug 2024 20:57:33
The fans don't care, they just want signings as we have waited long enough.
2.) 28 Aug 2024 21:30:25
No we'd like us to sign good players if we get them cheap great if we have to spend a bit more then so be it.
07 Sep 2024 20:00:50
My Grandad was from Co Sligo, always a special place for me. Anyone making the trip over for the game be sure to check out the Brother Walfrid memorial in Ballymote.
27 Aug 2024 12:10:17
No South Americans! They never work out for us.
26 Aug 2024 13:27:35
We are not allowed to talk to a player about personal terms before being given permission by the selling club, that’s called tapping up.
{Ed007's Note - It's done through the players agent and is a common practise, MOR had agreed personal terms with both Atalanta and Brighton weeks ago.}
25 Aug 2024 14:03:10
If he’s failed his medical it’s because they’ve discovered something unexpected and potentially very serious, so let’s hope that’s not the case.
22 Aug 2024 12:53:35
Can judge anything by goals/ assists in the US league. Not a defender in sight, even guys like Lewis Morgan look like worldbeaters.
06 Sep 2024 16:37:18
I’ve never seen the appeal of an Atlantic league, pretty sure it’s further away than ever now though. For the simple reason that the ESL is on the horizon, this years Champions League is the first step. It’s 8 games this year, soon it will be 10, then 12, etc, the big clubs will get their way.
My issue with these things has always been that they are unmeritocratic. When they start inviting or cherry picking clubs rather than have them qualify I’ll stop watching and that’s whether Celtic are in it or not.
As long as there is still a pathway to the league based on merit then I’m ok with that. Qualification wise, that’s up to us, but if we’re not good enough then we don’t deserve to be there.
{Ed007's Note - I don't think we'll live long enough to see that closed shop idea - no offence to younger guys I just think that's so far away now that it might never happen.
I do 100% agree that the CL will be expanded as we move forward with more games, and the domestic games will need to adjust accordingly - what if the CL becomes that, just a league, running concurrently with the domestic leagues through out the season with no Last 16 or QFs etc? - could we see an end point where weekends are for domestic football and midweek is for European fixtures, what future is there for domestic cups if the fixture schedule is so packed with everything and then then international breaks thrown into the mix.}
06 Sep 2024 11:36:27
It's such a stupid comment, the £50m thing. Hypothetically, someone gives them £50m right now, that's maybe 3 £8m players on 4 year contracts. what does that do, or to ask another question, then what? We have £50m more than them coming into the club year on year. They need to up their turnover by £50m every year and that's just to match us assuming we stand still.
04 Sep 2024 10:20:15
To each their own, I think the women's team is a good thing for the club, it opens up new audiences/ fanbases. Guys slagging it off comes across the same as old guyswho try and slag Taylor Swfit, just bitter old men.
But please don't compare anyone (male or female) to Billy McNeil!
03 Sep 2024 15:28:07
Agree with that Ed, always put it on my fan survey. Most English teams do it so absolutely no excuse.
{Ed007's Note - Them 'uns at Ibrox do it.}
03 Sep 2024 14:34:00
We could easily seell them, we have upwards of 10k already on waiting list for season tickets. Wether we fill it or not depends on other things.
Part of the problem is the amount of Sunday and midweek games, I've got a season ticket but like 1000s of other I live in England, it's not always possible to make non-Saturday games. People travelling from Ireland have the same issue.
we had average attendances of 20-30k over the 80s/ 90s but upped the capacity to 60k. If you build it they will come.
{Ed007's Note - But they aren't coming, for whatever reason it's still empty seats and the atmosphere is bad enough without extending the stadium and expect 2 groups of fans to try and create any atmosphere.
Until there is a system in place where supporters can resell their tickets for games the can't make there's no point in even considering any extension, let's concentrate on getting the seats we already have filled at every game.}