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11 May 2019 12:12:10
Congerton has left the club. Now if we continue to sign poorly who will be to blame?
Will next scout just get all the blame or the manager?
How many managers and scouts do we need to go through before we look at the policy?
1.) 11 May 2019 13:06:57
While I don't disagree with the sentiment behind your post, I for one, will be glad to see the back of LC. At the same time don't want a PL/ JP double act scenario where the manager perhaps has no impact at all. I am also aware that modern football managers identify positions to strengthen and the recruitment boys/ Ceo's deal with it from there. Interesting times ahead. HHðŸ€.
2.) 11 May 2019 13:59:25
This is all lined up for a John park return under Lennon all under Lawwell where he will have total control once again. I don’t think he liked it that Rogers was Desmond’s man and seemed to stand up to him a bit, obviously it’s only my opinion but we could be going back to 2 million pound buys/ gambles and just doing enough to hopefully get the league won. Can anyone on here honestly think Lawwell is going to sign a cheque for 8-9 million for Lennon?
3.) 11 May 2019 15:09:15
i think peter and neil think we have a squad fit to win 9 iar. this is a very risky ploy. peter won't spend a penny, he has the season book money so he may gamble. please please i hope i am wrong because if this is the ploy we will find us going back years. i know i may get pelters for this but it could be history repeating itslf.
4.) 11 May 2019 20:48:55
Oh let’s go sign 5 players for 10 million each pay them 60 grand a week a then liquidate like rangers 1872? How do you fancy that? The policy is fine it’s kept us in a good position 8 in a row 8 trophies in a row folk need to relax I can’t go drama queens?
5.) 11 May 2019 21:11:02
2mill pound buys like under Rodgers John park identified some quality players who did congerton scout?
6.) 11 May 2019 21:43:47
John park did pull a few crackers but there was also a lot of poor players, there isn’t a talent spotter who gets everyone right, congerton had a few successes as well. My point was more aimed at Lawwell going back to how it was a few seasons back, in my opinion he won’t give Lennon a big fee to sign either a proven player or someone with massive potential like eddy. The history books tell you as much, that’s why our record buy was Sutton before Rogers came in. Every team is now after these rough diamonds and they are getting harder to find and generally more expensive as teams have cottoned onto our structure so the price inflates . For every good one, we get 4/ 5 bad ones and people will be on here moaning that we need to spend more on quality. Lawells philosophy is have a budget of say 10 million and multiple players on it rather than 2-3 better quality players.
7.) 11 May 2019 22:31:49
big p we need to skelp the huns. you are the one panicking.
8.) 12 May 2019 00:5:24
BigP we can't keep mentioning them being liquidated as the big boggie man.
There needs to be slight tweaks to the policy to take us forward but not whole sale changes to it.
9.) 12 May 2019 02:21:06
Bigp use your head. They went bust cos they stole tax money and owed back more than they could pay. Theft basically.
Us spending money we have sitting in a bank doesn't make us go bust
Also based on our revenue we could easily pay 40-50k a week wages on a smaller squad of say 21 players propped up by our youths.
Also as I said on other posts look at the rewards Ajax got for changing the policy. Even greater sales and profits.
Even more money in CL. Lawwell has it too safe and thankfully people are noticing.
10.) 12 May 2019 08:23:20
Ajax didn't really change their policy though did they, they just reverted back to the system that has held them in good stead for years and promoted youth from within. Instead of buying all the players from clubs around them in the league. They are prepared to have a short barren spell knowing they probably won't win much in doing so, but when it comes good they will reap the rewards. Do you think the Celtic support could handle a similar method? I for one don't think they could.
11.) 12 May 2019 09:51:01
They did change their policy royjac. Well the same policy but higher budgets.
They sold a couple of players and reinvested the money.
They have been playing the similar style they always used for years they were just buying too cheap.
No offence meant here bur The next thing you say tells me you don't really know much about Ajax and just assumed cos their team is young it's all youths.
Only about 4 of their main first team squad players are from their youth. Similar numbers to ours. Minus a few guys who have made a handful of sub apps Mikey Johnstone style
So the rest were bought from teams in their league including frenkie de Jong etc.
So it's not like they have utilised this unstoppable youth system or anything.
What actually happened was they got a couple of good sales and instead of going back to 1-2 mil signings like we do, they reinvested the money.
Bought players for much higher prices which they again sold but this time for much higher prices.
They again reinvest that money and replace their players.
So aye still a selling policy but they actually replace the guys they sell with proper quality now.
They done it cheap the way we did and their team went right downhill. The way we have done, but we just can't see it cos we have no competition and everyone keeps banging on about trebles as if we are watching some of the best football we have seen.
12.) 14 May 2019 14:26:40
If John Park was really able to walk on water we wouldn’t have got rid of him. Selective retention, he too brought some right junk in too. Anyway, he’s joined Sunderland so it’s a non starter.
15 Feb 2019 01:28:16
Same old problems. We literally have it wrong from top to bottom.
1. Someone said earlier we need to decrease costs. This squad clearly needs more investment, serious investment. Not projects, otherwise we would be as well not taking part in Europe.
2. Rodgers style, possession is based on dominating a team. That's ok when you have better players than the opposition.
We don't and therefore we are throwing games in Europe.
3. The players don't have the quality or mentality. Some are too young and naive. Others past it. No between.
4. We have regressed in quality and by choice, not necessity. Our revenue has been higher than Valencia recently. Yet we persist on acting like a pub team.
Many seem happy with that and now we are merely a domestic level side at best.
1.) 15 Feb 2019 10:11:04
The board clearly don't trust Rodgers with signings imo as look at guys like commper, Hayes, Hendry, eboue, Gamboa etc etc they are all crap. Serious money has been wasted on these players and dermot will never back any manager enough to make a difference in Europe. Celtic just a stepping stone selling club now that's the sad reality.
2.) 15 Feb 2019 12:11:55
We do need a cull in the playing staff and better quality brought in more so in defence sadly apart from KT we need a full defence because no investment there in the past what 3 years? . The system we use not working in Europe and don't seem to change it. But apart from the stupidest of mistakes by some of the players constantly same ones I thought we held our own and on another day it could have been different just stop the stupid passing and predictable passing.
3.) 15 Feb 2019 12:40:25
Rodgers signings may been poor but really we have been signing duds for years before Rodgers.
The structure at the club is wrong.
Tyson hit the nail on the head. It's a harsh reality that we have chosen this way as a club.
I'd like to see us blend between Rodgers style with a physical style. Find a medium between the both.
4.) 15 Feb 2019 12:42:43
I got plenty of abuse for being "negative" on here, when I was simply being honest and realistic.
But I was unfortunately proven right last night. I don't even want to criticise players individually it's not their fault we recruit projects for that level.
We are below the level we could be at and it's by the boards choice. We have it too easy domestically.
Sooner 10 in a row is done and dusted the better. That's all they can hide behind now.
5.) 15 Feb 2019 14:46:46
I’ve got one thing to say to all of the above posts, ‘pish’.
6.) 15 Feb 2019 14:59:56
Again tesla, we’ll done on ‘being right’.
Must give you a fuzzy glow inside predicting all this blatantly inevitable scenarios.
Nostratesla.
7.) 15 Feb 2019 15:32:50
I am right though.
Are any of you two above suggesting we are heading in the right direction to improve as a club?
Is the level Celtic is at now acceptable to you?
If so fair enough, but for me I'd demand better
Accepting mediocrity at a club this size is ridiculous to me.
If we want to be a domestic side only we could do it spending half the money we do now.
Have a starting eleven of the best SPL and youth players and we could win the SPL.
8.) 15 Feb 2019 17:12:04
The reality is things have changed. Scottish football is not highly regarded in and out of Scotland. It's not entirely the board or BRs fault so reality check is needed. Until we as a nation start promoting the best our game had to offer instead of just taking sky peanut money and talking down our game club and national level things won't change. We should be applauding the direction we have taken in bringing in the best young talent we can attract whom otherwise we would never see. This is the reality, we are better than last night and we have all witnessed this. I don't think after one game against champions league level opponents with bags of experience and a newly signed £40 million pound striker is a rationale comparison. We can and will do better as much as I am dissapointed with last night it's not the time to throw toys out the pram. This team beat Man U twice this season.
9.) 15 Feb 2019 18:53:02
Yes Telsa you are right. A right ****.
10.) 15 Feb 2019 20:30:27
Excellent mark. That's the input from all the happy clappers.
No input other than insults. Nothing worthy to add.
Because to even attempt to defend not even the result but the performance last night would be futile.
It's not good enough. We have got gradually worse since Rodgers came in.
We are on a decline and need better. People like you do nothing but insult me for stating facts and not being green tinted specs about everything.
Last night was terrible and not even a surprise yet another tame performance in Europe. One of many over the last 4 or 5 seasons.
11.) 16 Feb 2019 00:31:48
You are forgetting we have had a lot of bad luck with injuries this season Tesla. That team that played Valencia would not have been our best 11 players if luck and circumstances had gone our way. The January signings/ loanees have just been asked to step up to the plate for a big game in Europe which might not have happened if our treatment rooms hadn’t been so busy this season.
12.) 16 Feb 2019 00:37:22
Good shout Kwaj. As I’ve said before, we need to stop subscribing to SKY and BT as this only helps to widen the gap between us and Europe’s elite.
13.) 16 Feb 2019 01:43:47
Ok cowbig you are right and the rest of us are all wrong then? ok then defend the signings of hendry, Hayes, gamboa, Marvin, eboue and musonda etc etc as you are the fountain of knowledge on all things Celtic tell us why we are wrong then?
14.) 16 Feb 2019 11:07:26
Gedceltic even with our best starting 11 I don't think we would beat Valencia.
Again though it doesn't change what I say, if our backup players are so bad we require emergency loans in January cos of injuries
Then it shows our squad depth is huge but empty of talent.
We have had to rotate the squad due to how many games we play and lots of times even domestically we have dropped points doing this.
Proving we need to get our finger out and improve the squad.
15.) 16 Feb 2019 14:35:04
Find it difficultto see how we are going backwards under Rodgers considering wehave an unprecedented double treble (possible trebletreble) and an invincible season. Allo of which was achieved after the mighty rangers came back to the spfl and not before. Yes in Europe we have progressed further on occasion but when you consider that we now have an extra preliminary round to negotiate and the difficulty to attract good seasoned professionals to Scotland it is understandable. We can attract young good so called projects on loan to be developped which is to their advantage and ours (short term) and then developping our own youth as it is clear to see tat some of our better players have come throuth our youth system.
Whilst it is difficult to admit I don't believe Celtic will ever achieve its full potential, considering the size of club it is, whilst its domestic football is Scotland solets just enjoy our domestic dominance because without that we wouldn't even be talking aout european football.
16.) 16 Feb 2019 15:09:45
Donjim it's the style as well. In Scotland playing possession is perfect because we have better players than anyone else
In Europe we don't but still try to play attacking even against PSG or whatever. It's ridiculous as we have a weak squad compared to them.
That's like st. Mirren trying to attack us or dominate possession
As for rangers, they may technically be back, however it's no exactly true as they aren't close to the level they once where.
If they were we would have lost the league last season and currently be second this year based on average PTS back in the day.
So even domestically the full story isn't clear.
17.) 16 Feb 2019 18:48:05
I still think BR is the man for the job but I also think we have massively under invested in defence we could probably make a full team out of the amount of midfielders we have on our books and the loan signings good players but to many don't know if any of that is Brendan fault but we do need better quality for Europe never now going to win it but I think we could or should be aiming for last 16 CL or quarter final in Europa on a regular basis.
05 Feb 2019 16:21:50
Bayo left out of the European squad.
As I said, told you so ladies :p
Pretty much suggests he is another project though
The loan signings will be good for 6 months but summer is going to be vital the board pull their finger out.
Castagne going from 6mil to 9mil I kinda agreed it was right to reject.
However keeping an eye on him in Serie A and the damage he's doing from right back id say 9mil could be a bargain.
1.) 05 Feb 2019 16:55:38
Aye, you told us. So did Sutton and about 250000 others. It was a no brainer.
But we’ll done l, mate. You showed us.
2.) 05 Feb 2019 17:39:18
I knew someone would bite. Well done. You have won the gullible award of the season.
3.) 05 Feb 2019 19:09:46
Are you supercooper I’m disguise?
4.) 06 Feb 2019 11:38:21
I'm your old primary school teacher and the word you were looking for is *in.
5.) 06 Feb 2019 12:30:22
Our future number 10! and Celtic captain, young Tim, Timmy Timalloy Weir is similar in style to one of our former very own, legends! none other than, King, King Henrik, King Henrik Larssen! I truly believe that our scouting and our legendary manager, none other than the great and not yet late, Mr Sir Brendinium Eamon O'Rodgers will bring us 10 in a row!
Hats off to Mr Pete, Peetsie, Peter Lawwell for bringing Tim Weir and "Good fun on the Bayo" to our glorious club
Hail Hail!
The Celts are here!
6.) 06 Feb 2019 13:00:17
rubbish patter Tesla you sound like you're still at school.
7.) 06 Feb 2019 13:02:41
haha brilliant.
8.) 06 Feb 2019 13:20:33
Oh I've caught another fish. I'm casting wider nets than our transfer policy here.
9.) 06 Feb 2019 15:58:25
and when we have won 10 you'll still be fishing and be careful and don't worry about us having a couple of six month loans as if I was youI'd be more worries about the loan sharks circling at ibrox.
10.) 07 Feb 2019 00:36:50
Lol donjim I'm no zombie. ST holder and attend all home games.
Side note - I don't leave 20 mins before full time either.
10 in a row will be good to wind them up to the maximum, but in reality it should be easy.
Our competition died years ago and if it became close run again it would be through our own mistakes before it will be their qualities.
11.) 07 Feb 2019 12:56:17
Point taken and indeed this time I agree with you. I also apologise if several of your posts laid me to believe you were of the blue persuasion. I disagree with the spend, spend, spend mentality as it caused the demise of Rangers and I don't believe world class players want to come to Scotland as people like Larsson are an anomaly rather than the norm.
12.) 07 Feb 2019 18:07:30
Thing is donjim spending didn't cause the people demise.
They spent tax money that wasn't theirs to spend and owed a lump sum. That's theft.
If we have £50 mil in bank and spend £20. It means we are still millions in profit
People have a lot of fear cos they died but it's 2 totally different things.
Nobody expects world class players but we could certainly attract better than we have in recent years.
The frustration is settling to be just better than rangers which was fair enough when they had class sides
But they are nothing now so we should be aiming to become a decent European side.
No saying to win or reach finals but to be a respectable side at that level which in recent times we have been a bit embarrassing to be honest, truth be told.
Saying anything negative angers Celtic fans though even if it's true hahaha.
14 Jan 2019 23:18:25
Rodgers says he'd be happy if Boyata stayed till the end of the season.
Guy refused to play for us and refuses to discuss a contract despite being a below par defender against any decent opposition.
I just think of great managers like Alex Ferguson and wonder if they would put up with that kind of behaviour.
Imo Boyata shouldn't have played for us again after Summer fiasco. Now he definitely should not wear our jersey again.
1.) 15 Jan 2019 01:04:31
You do know that’s Celtic saying no CB coming in in January defo.
2.) 15 Jan 2019 07:28:58
After the summer shambles with boyata I was dead against him playing for us again, however in the main since then he’s been superb ( outwith that Ibrox game where everyone of them except McGregor was rotten) . That said, it really needs addressed this window, he either signs a deal or we need to replace him. If we can’t get a replacement in then for me he has to drop out and Ajer/ jozo takes his place till we get another centre half in. We can’t continue to play him if brendan knows he’s definitely going to leave. What message does that send to Ajer/ jozo?
3.) 15 Jan 2019 08:54:27
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
We always work like that. We don't act until we need to as oppose to being prepared in advance.
Same when we never spent until we "knew our champions League fate"
Then qualified and have short time to spend. Fail to buy and then get the "we tried" excuse.
4.) 15 Jan 2019 10:50:48
Difference is Alex Ferguson had the backing to build a squad of quality depth, whereas in terms of CB position we do not have that. He is one of our best CB and untill we get replacement he should be playing if we want to win.
Im of same opinion he should never of played again, but we have no choice unless we get replacement.
Personally i think if he wound his neck in, respected club and fans by playing then i think he would of got his transfer this window. His agents actions storming into Lennoxtown was disgraceful and i wouldn't be surprised if Rodgers and Lawwell are happy to run down his contract by keeping him to end of season as a GIRFUY.
5.) 15 Jan 2019 11:08:24
He’s a rat get rid.
6.) 15 Jan 2019 11:49:50
I'd rather he left now for nothing than keep playing a player that doesn't want to be here. We would get a couple of million the now anyway so get him out and get someone in who wants to play for us.
7.) 15 Jan 2019 19:51:23
Bloody Boyata, out of order, we have paid him handsomely and now get zero sell on, doesn't deserve to wear our shirt, absolute clown if true.
14 Jan 2019 23:05:06
Latest rumour is Porto want to offer £14mil plus Mbemba for Ntcham.
I think this is a fair deal.
Ntcham has great ability but he would suit Portos style of play much more naturally than ours.
1.) 14 Jan 2019 23:16:45
Fair? This would be an incredible deal if true. Take it and run for the hills. Can just imagine PL's face when that one comes through.
2.) 14 Jan 2019 23:21:03
I say fair because I can't see it being £14 and Mbemba.
Possibly a deal valued at £14 million.
Like them valuing Mbemba as worth £7mil within the deal and adding £7mil on top of that cash to make a deal worth £14mil
However you never know, seen some similar deals in past and they are desperate for Ntcham supposedly. Him signing a long term deal means they need to pull something special out to get him sooner.
3.) 14 Jan 2019 23:26:01
That would be a great deal.
4.) 14 Jan 2019 23:47:29
I'd take £1.4 million.
5.) 15 Jan 2019 00:05:57
Is Mbemba a CB?
6.) 15 Jan 2019 00:16:41
Wasn't we linked with Mbemba last summer when he as at Newcastle? Can't see us getting £14m and him but I'd take the £14m alone and invest it in areas we need strengthening.
7.) 15 Jan 2019 09:12:39
There's no chance that mbemba will be any good, why would Porto want rid of him so quickly? Who would replace Ntcham if you let him go?
I would ask for more, Porto have the money, and in this inflated market we would get 18-20, buy benkovic outright and get some players cheap from the Eastern European leagues that we can sell on in the future, I've been checking midfielders with good attributes
AMC Tsonev 23 FC Beroe G7 A7
MC Travnik 24 FK Jabloneka G8 A7
AMC Mitrita 23 CSU Craiova G12 A4
We could probably get all 3 for 7 million and would make a great profit on them
And I'm sure there's plenty CBs cheap over there as well.
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08 May 2019 18:44:31
Continuing the "Foreign manager" chat. I said to name names, as foreign manager means nothing.
So someone mentioned Vladan Milojević as a "young up and coming manager who got to knockout stages"
Ok so. Lennon is actually younger than him.
Lennon has got further than him in Europe on a budget also.
The guy won the league but lost the cup.
Only one win in the group stages so he never reached the knockout stages.
Proving what I am saying that people cloud their heads with a fancy name.
I'm not even wanting Neil Lennon specifically but I'm asking people to name a foreign manager who is proven to be a higher level and would realistically come to Celtic?
I tried to tell people before with the talk of Marco rose it was unrealistic. Nobody wants the job as the boards budgets are a joke.
1.) 08 May 2019 19:08:49
I meant to say Group Stages. Red star have a tighter budget than us. They beat Liverpool in the group stages. They’ve improved drastically under his management. Ruling out all managers from a foreign country is silly and just because they are foreign doesn’t mean they can’t come to Celtic and do a job.
There are plenty managers out there that would come to Celtic if the money was right. Your argument makes more sense now that you’ve made an actual point. As ED pointed out the other day it would be interesting to see who actually has applied for the job and if Lawwell shoved some applications in the bin due to him being scared of the wages they would want.
2.) 08 May 2019 19:15:37
Tesla nobody is saying new manager has to have a foreign name, That's a ridiculous statement. What the majority of us are saying though is next manager has to take us forward and Neil Lennon will not.
You mention board budgets, how do you know what the boards intentions are for new manager? It's becoming more evident there is more to Brendan Fraudgers story than we know. I think they knew he was leaving at some point during season and decided to hold back transfer budget for new manager close season?
Personally I think a new manager has already been lined up and announcement will be made after season is done. More I think about it, I'm beginning to think it will be highly unlikely it will be Lennon permanently. Apparently there is a director on board who made it abundantly clear last time he applied for job after Deila it was never going to happen. This same director also was allegedly critical of his last tenure.
3.) 08 May 2019 19:18:54
Surely people are actively applying for the job, even Lennie must have to have an interview . Anyone that wants it will surely have to sit down with Lawwell and discuss budgets . Hopefully this is all being kept under wraps due to the importance of the end of the season and the recent bad news regarding King Billy and Stevie Chalmers passing.
4.) 08 May 2019 20:02:39
Would love to know who has applied for the job. What has me worried is Izzy saying Lenny asked him to stay for another year. Why would he do that if he wasn't going to be manager. Can you shed any light on that Ed i'm scratching my head over it. I know forward planning is healthy but for me this is not forward thinking we need better back up to KT. I actually prefer Hayes to Izzy at LB now.
5.) 08 May 2019 21:06:56
Ken I never said not a foreign manager. I'm saying people have this idea foreign is always better.
The best thing is a good manager and properly backed by the board.
Everyone keeps going on saying not Lennon but not mentioning names.
No doubt the guy from red star done well for them but remember Ronny deila won the league with stromsgodset
Deila was a young up and coming foreign name who overachieved with a smaller team.
I'm just saying people need to be careful when making out a more exotic name = quality
Like big Rafael shcheidt.
{Ed007's Note - Isn't Neil Lennon a foreign manager?}
6.) 08 May 2019 21:07:45
Tesla people have been naming names on here constantly.
This nonsense we no one big will take is getting old.
If we pay good wages they will take it.
My self I have warmed to the idea of Phillip Cocu. He ticks a lot of boxes for me.
Managed at a good level
Won things as a manager
Plays an attractive type of football
Likes bringing youth through.
Also attainable as he is unemployed at the moment.
Only thing holding us back is ambitions of the club and now it seems the fans because we should be demanding the best not making excusing why we should settle for anything less.
7.) 08 May 2019 21:38:18
Can't remember how much compensation we got for Brendan but you would like to think if the Board had ambitions to appoint someone of Brendans standing again the lot would be used to get their man.
{Ed007's Note - It was £9 million, Stan. Why can't we offer a new manager £3 million a year over 3 years and absorb the costs of any staff he wants to bring in?}
8.) 08 May 2019 22:07:30
Thanks Ed, again. Exactly how i see it. £9m over 3 years could attract a very high candidate. I've sat numerous times trying to think who is available and i've come up with none haha. Quite like your suggestion Kev especially the brand of football he has been accustomed to all his life. Would be a good forward thinking appointment. I really don't care about getting a Celtic man or someone who knows Scottish football all that does is limit the number of people we can choose. Let's think outside the box and try to keep progressing throughout the club on and off the field.
{Ed007's Note - We pushed the boat out to get Rodgers, we need to keep pushing it to move forward. We'll know the level of the board's ambition with the next manager appointment.}
9.) 08 May 2019 22:21:25
Can just picture Lawwell outside Parkead after giving Gary Caldwell a £9m 25 year contract Ed haha. Nah it's all very quite let's hope there will be some shock and awe tactics come May 26th that will surprise us all.
{Ed007's Note - With John Collins smug wee coupon in the background as DOF.}
10.) 08 May 2019 23:12:35
Kev nobody will take the job of any standard unless they are given a proper budget
That lies on the board. Our board have done absolutely nothing but state they will stand by their policy.
Until that changes then we are minnows and will continue to be.
Do I think a good manager would like a Celtic job? Yes
Under our current policy? Not a chance.
Brendan seemed like a massive move, they didn't back him so he disappeared. Surprise surprise, first one we bring in jumps ship.
11.) 09 May 2019 07:16:36
Tesla you keep rattling on about a budget. Rodger spent about 35 million in fees for 23 players.
He was backed he just wasted almost every penny.
All you have to look at is rafa Benitez to prove my point that it's wages not budget that's really important to a manager.
He has been moaning and greeting about not having a budget to compete with the teams around him but still wants to sign a new contract even though he'd get a new job no bother.
Even if we ain't going to the very top for a manager, there are guys out there that are achievable that are a cut above Lennon.
Our club has moved on form 2013, he's not.
People who think he's got better with age or at Hibs and Bolton are kidding themselves on.
12.) 08 May 2019 22:31:15
I’ve been thinking that myself Ed. Except 3 million a year over 4 years and sell him after year 3 for another 9million. and then start the process all over again.
13.) 08 May 2019 22:32:11
Bloody hell ed I will need to go for lie doon. Don't think I've had a good idea before.
14.) 09 May 2019 11:47:19
Celtic will deliver a top manager for the post. Otherwise they would have just sworn Lennon in now. Why would they wait to announce unless they were intending to bring someone else in. After the cup final I think they will drop the hammer.
15.) 09 May 2019 16:01:48
Kev 35/ 23 is 1.5 mil
Our average spend is £1.5 mil per player.
Backing a manager isn't giving him 300 players valued at 1 mil
It's giving him 11-16 players who are going to improve the squad.
You can also blame Rodgers for these signings but not all of them were his
Before Rodgers and numerous managers had the same average spend per player
That's not a manager or scout issue. That's a restriction based on policy.
13 Mar 2019
New image uploaded to the
Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, Transfer policy 2. Shows that by playing it too safe we are hurting ourselves both on and off the pitch. We need to spread the net further.
1.) 13 Mar 2019 15:08:14
Several of they teams don't have the work permit issues we have and can spread the net wider because of that.
2.) 13 Mar 2019 15:14:31
If our spend is so low in comparison
to transfer fees surely our wages should be nowhere near most of these. Or is the problem we are stockpiling players who never get a game.
{Ed007's Note - That is a big part of it but we do have a lot more non-footballing staff than most of those clubs mentioned and come next year Rodgers significant salary along with Davies and Toure will be off the bill. Lennon, Kennedy and Duff would probably cost less than Rodgers alone did.
Basically we've shaved £3+ million off the wage bill and the compensation from Leicester (£7-9 million depending who you ask/believe) is sitting in the bank.}
3.) 13 Mar 2019 17:37:57
I think for the above reason, the Board will hope NL wins both remaining trophies and can be offered the job.
It was a great experience having such a high profile boss and the domestic legacy he leaves behind may never be equaled/ surpassed.
However, we have amassed a real surplus of 'nearly men', generated the highest running costs ever before and seem to have no better chance of European progress than with WGS and NL's last 16 CL?
The non qualification for this years CL probably cost us Dembele, on top of the cash we lost-out; so the need for continuity and some stability before the CL quals may also be a factor?
4.) 13 Mar 2019 19:20:23
For me that legacy is the need to sign a back four, winger and striker to stay still. Oh aye and those memorable CL nights.
5.) 14 Mar 2019 13:02:31
Daviebhoy We employ a manager to get the best out of our existing squad and bring in players to help to fill in the gaps . . If we discard our whole back four and bring in replacements for all, it will inevitably take time to gel . Next season we will probably have Ralston, Ayer, Jojo and Tierney . We will have back up amongst younger players and Briton.
13 Mar 2019
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Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, Transfer policy
28 Feb 2019 12:00:37
Strange double standards going about.
Like if a manager uses us as a stepping stone to England it's a problem.
Yet at the same time people are happy for us to be a selling club. In which players sign with the sole purpose of getting sold down south or abroad.
In that case van dijk is Judas. Armstrong, forster, wanyama, Dembele etc are all Judas? Why didn't they all stay for 10 in a row?
That's what football is now half the players who play for us don't give one monkeys about us.
If you want a Celtic manager and commited players for long term then we would have 11 Scottish players with the odd guy like Izzy who take to the club.
Harsh reality of modern football.
1.) 28 Feb 2019 12:14:54
The main difference being that those players never sold the fans and club a lie. They also left in transfer windows allowing us to get replacements. They didn’t tell us it was their dream job, we expected them all to leave.
Players are much more easily replaceable, a manager is responsible for the whole team not just one position on the park and he not only left us at a crucial stage in the season but tried to leave us without a single member of coaching staff.
Surely you can see the difference.
Other managers have managed to see out the season in much worse situations, Rodgers recent comments trying to imply the board weren’t backing him was him obviously planning his exit thinking he could escape without blame.
Very different situations.
2.) 28 Feb 2019 12:17:35
Yip, agreed.
Some fans expect all players to be as passionate about the team as they are. It doesn't happen often. Players and managers are paid to be involved, fans pay to be involved. Massive difference.
I can accept Rodgers desire to move on and challenge himself but I'm very disappointed in how fast he did it. HH.
3.) 28 Feb 2019 12:26:39
It's the timing he basically left us in the lurch at a very important part of the season the business end and was for taking our whole backroom team and left us with no management.
4.) 28 Feb 2019 12:58:28
Moving on elsewhere isn't really a problem for me. But leaving a side when you've got a title to win? I'm lost for words still.
5.) 28 Feb 2019 13:31:51
There’s absolutely no doubt about it, it was the timing of Rodgers departure that was the issue. An 8 point lead with 11 games left it was by no means a fore gone conclusion and a tough Scottish Cup QF ahead the timing was disgraceful. If he’d decided to call it a day at the end of the season I’m sure the majority of us fans would have thanked him for all he achieved with us and wished him well. But I have to admit I agree with the GB banner. He deserted us at the most crucial point in the season. I’m grateful the we have Lenny at the helm now for the rest of the season.
6.) 28 Feb 2019 13:54:46
Tesla is tolling . No Celtic supporter could condone a manager leaving with yet another SPL to be won with only 11 games left .
As far as selling club is concerned, I think every club in these islands is a selling club, in so far if a bigger club comes in for a star player, any club will sell.
7.) 28 Feb 2019 14:47:49
Tesla its not the fact he left, its the fact that he has been lying to the fans for almost 3 years. more and more stories that his little anecdotes are all bullsh*t - Danny McGrain etc
For someone who is so clever if he had stayed to the end of the season and left because the board didn't match his ambitions then the board would have copped the flack, instead he has been found out for what he is, only interested in himself.
As stated above, GB banner said it all for me and probably 99% of fans. the king is dead, long live King LENNY. he is now forgotten!
8.) 28 Feb 2019 15:51:55
LMAO yeah Rodgers full of integrity. If we had bet Valencia he would of still been here untill we got knocked out.
Fact of matter is he was willing to take our whole backroom team at a crucial point in league and right before Hearts away game. Nothing but a rat in my eyes.
Also I am convinced us getting benkovic on loan was tied into Rodgers already agreeing to take Leicester job back in September.
Let's move on. He's gone and in the past. Hope Lennon does well and is offered job permanently. We need stability.
16 Feb 2019 08:51:25
Looking at our starting XI against Valencia. Ask which players you see as long term solutions in their positions
Bain - No
Toljan - No
Boyata -No
Simunovic - No
Izzy - No
Brown - No
McGregor - Yes
Christie - Potential, yes
Forrest - Yes
Sinclair - Yes
Burke - Not our player
Bench or injured key guys
Benkovic - not our player
Tierney - Yes
Lustig - No
Eddie - Yes but needs big improvements
Gordon - No
Ajer - potential
Ntcham - Yes
So really you see the huge rebuilding task we have here. Cos even the players who are part of future, many are still very much learning.
Only about 3 or 4 players would you say are ready
Even then their is inconsistencies like Sinclair when his confidence drops
Forrest can be hot and cold
Ntcham similar to Forrest.
Having better players around these guys will bring their game on and help the young ones develop.
Raise the standard, push the bar higher and it helps us develop better projects also.
1.) 16 Feb 2019 12:25:50
Toljan has chance of staying, if not we sign someone else.
Yes we need 1-2 CBs but rest of the team is more than good enough to dominate domestically for the forseable future.
2.) 16 Feb 2019 14:14:07
Domestically we could sign nobody and dominate.
We should be aiming higher than domestic.
3.) 16 Feb 2019 14:29:48
Tesla can I ask what Bain has done wrong for you to consider him not a long term answer?
4.) 16 Feb 2019 15:16:43
I think Bain has done ok, I just think we can get better that's all.
5.) 16 Feb 2019 15:46:26
Tesla plays too much Fifa on his PlayStation, in his fantasy world he thinks we should be spending 10's of millions on transfer fees and adding another 20 million to our 60 million wage bill.
6.) 16 Feb 2019 16:02:37
Literally said none of that Stevie.
Unless u are suggesting Bain is the absolute best keeper we can attract?
7.) 16 Feb 2019 17:41:09
Have to say tesla369 l think you are a bit harsh on Bain and toljan who has only played 3 games or so.
Yes a lot of the players struggle at that level but Celtic have tried to sign players but they went elsewhere. And secondly where is the money going to come from to replace the players that need to be replaced to compete at that level.
It's mainly loan players as the costs are too high for Celtic to compete with wages and transfer fees. Remember the club record transfer is 9 million. They brought on a sub who Was 40 million. The problem with times gone by is that those league have more and more money with tv etc now and celtic simply can't compete financially with them which unfortunately is reflected on the pitch.
8.) 16 Feb 2019 18:16:04
They also had a worse revenue than us over the last few years
We are also owned by billionaires. One even twice as rich as Desmond amongst the shareholders.
Difference is that some people's owners want to back their club, while ours just want to earn from it.
Don't give one F about their £40 mil midfielder, they are not a world class side and neither were Zenit.
BATE have spent £11 mil their entire history and beat Arsenal.
Our attitude is totally defeatist. "We can't compete. " Well don't bother turning up then.
The mentality of our fans is as soft as the mentality of our players.
Bertie Auld in tunnel against inter who we were told we didn't have a chance again
You think he was sitting thinking oh we can't compete here?
Old school boys went out and got tore in. Now it's just sitting talking about price tags. Who cares, sick hearing excuses at not being able to play a 5 yard pass.
9.) 16 Feb 2019 18:56:12
I would keep Bain he is a good Goalkeeper can only remember one mistake in the last game thankfully didn't cost us a goal.
10.) 16 Feb 2019 19:09:44
I think some people are only happy when they re complaining, the ones that always see the glass half empty and then they are really happy when we get beat as it justifies their opinion. I think psychology also says that if you tell somebody often enough that he is crap he will start to believe it.
11.) 16 Feb 2019 19:41:50
It's not about that donjim. It's about truth.
The truth is we are happy to do the bare minimum for domestic success.
Our board have decided to make no attempt to compete in Europe.
Could we afford better players? Yes
We don't bring them in because we don't need to and some people are happy with that.
Some people are literally saying we can't do Europe so why bother investing. Our own fans literally settling for being better than the rest of a deadwood league.
12.) 16 Feb 2019 22:02:43
Seems like you would rather have a foreign goalkeeper for a few million instead of a guy who has been really good up until now.
IMO will only get better!
If we sort out our defence which is the area in most need of improvement Bain could be a top class keeper for us.
13.) 16 Feb 2019 23:20:46
agree that we should have better than bain (a free agent from dundee or hibs i think) as our number 1, tge boy has done relatively well but think that is a lot to do with being good with the ball at his feet, fir me he is too small for a keeper, but would be happy with him as 2nd or 3rd keeper.
14.) 17 Feb 2019 00:11:36
Ginn I've never criticised Bain just saying he's 27 and until us the best team he succeeded at was Dundee.
He can do an ok job the same as Hartley, Robson and co done.
However I just feel we can scout and attract better. I rate him highly as our 2nd choice.
I'm happy for him to be number one though but I'm just asking if he is the absolute best we can get?
That's different from being happy with it.
Football is cut throat or should be and if we can get better then he (and everyone else) should be replaced if we get better in.
15.) 17 Feb 2019 11:56:25
Tesla you can't just bin players when they fall out of favour and get new ones in at the drop of a hat, these guys are on contracts that need to be payed. We would have a squad of about 80 and a 150 million pound wage bill if it was down to you.
16.) 18 Feb 2019 10:17:15
Actually that's not even true. We have a huge wage bill because we sign huge numbers of cheap players
Many don't work out and are left doing nothing for a few years. Likes of Allan and co.
Another fault of our policy. We spend £60 mil a year on players and staff. Obviously most of that is player wages
We can afford to give a smaller squad of players between 30-50k a week each for that cash if you do the maths.
Instead we have the likes of Hendry on 10k but lots of others on similar paid for nothing.
Financially we would be the exact same bringing in higher quality as a smaller squad.
19 May 2019 17:54:12
Most on here defended him and Rodgers when he was allowed back in the side.
He shouldn't have wore the jersey again. Another failure of Rodgers. Happy for players to disrespect our club.
We soon found out why, as he is a snake himself.
18 May 2019 23:35:30
He is a defensive manager kev. I thought that wasn't allowed at Celtic?
18 May 2019 19:53:58
Hope not. He's done well with Burnley especially with that squad but I just think the Celtic job is so different it's hard to tell how well he would hit the ground running.
12 May 2019 09:51:01
They did change their policy royjac. Well the same policy but higher budgets.
They sold a couple of players and reinvested the money.
They have been playing the similar style they always used for years they were just buying too cheap.
No offence meant here bur The next thing you say tells me you don't really know much about Ajax and just assumed cos their team is young it's all youths.
Only about 4 of their main first team squad players are from their youth. Similar numbers to ours. Minus a few guys who have made a handful of sub apps Mikey Johnstone style
So the rest were bought from teams in their league including frenkie de Jong etc.
So it's not like they have utilised this unstoppable youth system or anything.
What actually happened was they got a couple of good sales and instead of going back to 1-2 mil signings like we do, they reinvested the money.
Bought players for much higher prices which they again sold but this time for much higher prices.
They again reinvest that money and replace their players.
So aye still a selling policy but they actually replace the guys they sell with proper quality now.
They done it cheap the way we did and their team went right downhill. The way we have done, but we just can't see it cos we have no competition and everyone keeps banging on about trebles as if we are watching some of the best football we have seen.
12 May 2019 02:21:06
Bigp use your head. They went bust cos they stole tax money and owed back more than they could pay. Theft basically.
Us spending money we have sitting in a bank doesn't make us go bust
Also based on our revenue we could easily pay 40-50k a week wages on a smaller squad of say 21 players propped up by our youths.
Also as I said on other posts look at the rewards Ajax got for changing the policy. Even greater sales and profits.
Even more money in CL. Lawwell has it too safe and thankfully people are noticing.
20 May 2019 00:33:33
Half his team were Lennon's, the other half was deilas
Ntcham, Sinclair and dembele his only signings who dominated a place in the side
Gordon, lustig, Tierney, Izzy, boyata, simunovic, ajer, Forrest, rogic, McGregor, Armstrong, brown
None signed by Rodgers and his main players
He made 3 or 4 solid signings.
Lennon built an entire new squad and some of them still in the side 8 seasons on.
19 May 2019 22:37:13
We should be able to blow polish teams away regardless.
19 May 2019 17:46:31
Could bring up a list about any managers.
Rodgers - Mulumbu, de Vries, hendry, toljan, Bayo, Benyu, gamboa, kouassi, compper, Morgan, musonda etc
And in a few years add guttman and perez to that list.
Thanks Brendan for these amazing signings.
19 May 2019 17:35:26
Really moaning on a day we are resting all our top players and playing youths
And we won the game?
Still moaning.
19 May 2019 16:44:02
Maybe discussions about Lennon happened more often because he is the current manager?
Doesn't mean I wanted him.
Funnily enough all our managers have had poor signings
Lennon actually had a better transfer record than Rodgers lol and even people who hate Lennon recognise this.
Even Rodgers, who was still using Griffith's, lustig, biton, Izzy, forrest etc who all came through under Lennon.