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11 Jul 2024 17:36:02
knocked back a 15m offer for O'Riley.
1.) 11 Jul 2024 18:35:44
I'm surprised we even took the time to reply to such a derisory 'offer'.
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2.) 11 Jul 2024 20:20:32
Pedro thought the same thing when I seen the apparent offer, near buckled with laughter. Plus I’m sure you can’t buy half a player. We set the price for a talent like Matty and 15mil is well off it for me, 30mil with add ons and sell on fee then start a conversation. HH.
3.) 12 Jul 2024 02:51:23
Did we not knock back 20 from atletico? Witn add ons ??? why accept 15?
4.) 12 Jul 2024 11:06:52
Like many supporters, I'd rather MOR stayed for another season but if he does leave then at least two clubs have opened the bidding which could well bring other interested parties to the table. ?
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5.) 12 Jul 2024 13:39:34
Russian club apparently made low ball offer for Hatate. Need to keep him and MOR.
6.) 12 Jul 2024 14:08:22
If we can keep him, we should for another season. Another champions league group where if he shows up well his value will only increase. Also we will only replace him with a cheaper, less skilled player further weakening the team.
7.) 12 Jul 2024 19:16:26
I find it funny that we knocked back Hatate's bid as according to reports that Uefa don't want clubs doing business with Russian clubs after the Russian/ Ukraine conflict but the reports mentioned that Ukraine and Russian clubs are actually still doing business between themselves.
Totally bizarre.
11 Jul 2024 14:02:33
Romano reporting bid in from Italy for O'Riley.
1.) 11 Jul 2024 14:44:32
Possibly Atalanta ?
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2.) 11 Jul 2024 16:24:41
Interest from Atalanta confirmed saying Celtic looking for £25m plus and this would be a club record; but I thought Jota went for £30m?
3.) 11 Jul 2024 17:25:25
Ad be asking 30m upwards.
4.) 11 Jul 2024 18:40:35
Celtic hold all the cards on this one.
I'd rather we kept MOR for another season but IF he leaves it should be for a club record fee of more than £25M.
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5.) 11 Jul 2024 18:48:41
Jota was 25m onceabhoy4.
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26 Jul 2024 23:27:59
This we pay more wages than championship teams, does that really matter? when players will always choose the top five league before thinking about our league, some do choose the championship before our league.
{Ed007's Note - And some don't, some choose to play for one of the biggest Clubs in the world, win trophies and play European football, CCV being one, MOR being another, Kasper Schmeichel probably had offersx in better leagues so what's your point?
If a player's ambition is to play in the English 2nd division chances are they aren't good enough for Celtic.
1.) 27 Jul 2024 01:05:20
O'Riley will move to a better league ed, so would ccv if he had a choice ✌️.
{Ed007's Note - CCV had other options including in England, the only thing that was worrying him was if playing in Scotland would affect his international chances.
2.) 27 Jul 2024 01:03:09
ED superb bud lol?quality want to play against quality weekly not average joes in our league, because if you don't come up against quality you will never improve your game, some don't understand this, does make me laugh on occasional, nothing to do with celtic all to do with our pishy league.
{Ed007's Note - I'm actually struggling to see what point you're trying to make here. Are you saying VV,D, Ajer, KT, MOR, Dembele, Edouard, Jota etc etc didn't improve playing week in and week out in Scotland? Ryan Christie, Starfelt, Armstrong.....
If they didn't improve why do clubs give us millions of £££ for them?
3.) 27 Jul 2024 06:54:00
I’d say English talent chooses the English pyramid and it’s associated money before our league not foreign unless it’s the prem, for me part of the scouting and behind scenes talks with agents is identifying the ambitious and hungry who want to develop or are young in top 5 leagues ready to play first team footbal, we have the budget we need to better with it.
4.) 27 Jul 2024 07:51:40
I have to agree with Ed, some players come here to win trophies and play in CL. Some so they get game time because they may not in top 5 league teams amd some because of our Managers, the support and we are a massive club where they get great exposure.
Others because they will get more money than offered elsewhere, hard for someone on here to get their heads around I know.
5.) 27 Jul 2024 08:40:39
100% right Ed. It has been proven time and time again, moving to Celtic improves players, raises their profile and when they or we feel it is right, they move on. The standard of the Scottish game is not that bad. We don't have Man City, Arsenal or Liverpool class sides, but neither does any other league, except one, and that league cannot accommodate every player and give them game time.
6.) 27 Jul 2024 09:06:52
I would agree with both, but still think those non natives at first come here for the stepping stone route, however I'm not surprised when players actually fall in love with the place, if you spend quality time at our club and give quality moments then youll never be forgotten, it's not quite like that at many other clubs.
In my opinion say MoR goes to italy playing for Atalanta, they aren't a huge club at all, better league absolutely but playing in front of an average attendance of 14,500 at home games to me isn't very ambitious, or ambition not being correct but jumping to the next level certainly not, go to athletics Madrid then yes that's a bigger jump in my opinion.
Wages talk, so does international football, our league not good enough dsnish manager said? He picked players from belgium and danish leagues, not that different really!
Sometimes you wonder if celtic get a player to become a spokesperson also to increase their value, as MOR gave many interviews for celtic last year, you would expext the more of cal mac.
7.) 27 Jul 2024 09:37:15
Ed of course a young player will obviously improve will game time and experience, then move on to a far better league, many quality players will not even think about moving here.
Question ed. Do you thinking vvd would be the player he is today if he never left our league?
Quality needs to play Quality regularly for improvement, average joes in our league is the reason quality will not come here.
{Ed007's Note - Would VVD have became the player he is today if he hadn't came to Scotland? I still don't know what point it is you're trying to make.
8.) 27 Jul 2024 11:21:34
My point is quality laughs at out league.
{Ed007's Note - That's just bollocks though, I've already listed quality players that have came to Scotland and could list plenty more. Yes it's seen as a stepping stone to bigger leagues and more money - that's called progressing their career.
And as I said, we get a Hell of a lot of money for these players you say are no good.
9.) 27 Jul 2024 12:12:30
I'm talking about if we pay the wage a team from the top five pay the wage and that player ain't coming coming here, by the way vvd improved more agaist quality in the championship.
{Ed007's Note - VVD never played in the English Championship.}
10.) 27 Jul 2024 12:23:31
Sorry epl but he improved massively at Southampton against quality .
{Ed007's Note - Who's saying he didn't but he improved during his time in Scotland to be deemed good enough to get a crack at the PL, he went down there, improved again and got his big move to Liverpool, that's how football works is it not?
In fact, listen this is boring me worse than it was last night so don't waste your time replying to this - I still don't know what your point is or was meant to be.}
11.) 27 Jul 2024 13:54:05
I am sure Jota thought he would improve his football career as well as his bank balance by following the money, which all our players who asked or even demanded to move . KT thought he was on the pig’s back when he demanded and got his move to Arsenal . Our “ best ever supporter “ slipped off whilst his adoring fans supported Celtic in Europe . Now as his Arsenal contract starts to wind down his demands may be less lofty.
12.) 27 Jul 2024 19:17:33
The SPL has all the makings of a very good league . We are told the EPL, is the top league in the World . Both EPL and SpL have a dominant team currently winning their leagues . Both SPL have a small group of clubs winning the 2nd, 3rd, 4th h and 5th positions. Then the differences EPL has a massive TV deal, SPL deal is minute . EPL refs and VAR officials make the very odd mistake, a true error . SPL refs and VAR have shown to have. a bias in favour of one club and against the top club Celtic. This prevents Celtic from winning the league by 15 and more points every yr . In both England and Scotland fans are very loyal and faithful to their clubs. England’s population of approximately 60m supports their clubs well . Scotland with a population of approximately one tenth of England also give most of their SPL clubs good support . Once and if it ever happens the SFA is forced to clean up its act from top to bottom, Scottish Football should become the envy of small nations, as Scotland has in the past produced outstanding footballers of their era.
22 Jul 2024 15:22:54
Wee question, i bumped into an old friend at a snack bar earlier today, he's telling me if sevco win the league this season they go straight into the cl but we don't, is this remotely true?
1.) 22 Jul 2024 15:48:11
There was a way they could've qualified as runner up last season because of their high coefficient but they needed a load of results to go their way. Could potentially be the same this season if some very specific scenario plays out.
2.) 22 Jul 2024 16:17:28
Your reply should have been a fit of laughter, followed by a derisory sneer and a comment of, "you, win the league this year? ". Followed with more laughter.
3.) 22 Jul 2024 16:46:28
weejoe?.
4.) 22 Jul 2024 19:14:23
There’s a good chance he’s correct under the new format.
The new format gives One extra place to Champions with the highest Coefficient points in Associations from 11th place onwards.
But
Only if the 2025 Champions League winners have already Qualified through their domestic league.
It happened in the new formats first season.
The 2024 CL winners Real Madrid had already Qualified for the 2024/ 25 groups,
So their place went to Shakhter Donetsk, who had the most Coefficient points from Champions, in Associations of 11th place onwards.
I believe if Sevco did win the Scottish title, it would probably take a miracle for them not to get that extra guaranteed place in the new format.
There’s also a place for the highest Coefficient club who finish 2nd in the league but only if the Europa League winners Qualify for the CL groups, through their domestic league.
Sevco just missed out on this place by Benfica this season.
It’s also possible for Celtic to win the title in 2025 and we would still need to Qualify.
Yet Sevco could finish 2nd and still get that non Champions extra place because of their high Coefficient points.
Benfica or Porto would prevent that if either club finish 2nd in the Portuguese league in 2025.
Or if Ajax finished 2nd in the 2025 Dutch league.
It makes a mockery of the CL,
If the Champions Celtic need to Qualify but 2nd place Sevco could actually go straight into the CL groups.
UEFA are a joke.
5.) 22 Jul 2024 19:50:04
I’ve just read the rules of the new format.
It mentions that Sevco would NOT get that extra non champions place, even if they had the highest Coefficient points because of Celtic.
UEFA rules prevent a club finishing 2nd an automatic place if the Champions need to Qualify.
That place would go to the next non champions club with the highest Coefficient points.
6.) 22 Jul 2024 20:00:38
I was convinced that Sevco would get in the back door of the CL groups in the next few years because of their high Coefficient points.
They only missed out this year.
But After reading the rules, that’s not possible because they can’t leapfrog Celtic if we continue to win the title over the next few years.
( until the Sevco Coefficient points go down )
This season is basically their last chance saloon because from next season -
Scotland will only get One CL Qualifying place and that should be Celtic.
If Celtic continue to win the title,
We will go into the CL Qualifiers each season and Sevco will go into the Europa League Qualifiers each season.
Happy Days. ?.
7.) 22 Jul 2024 21:53:10
Happy days i preferred going straight in buzz, last thing I am is happy with the situation .
12 Jul 2024 21:13:23
Schmeichel just about signed.
1.) 12 Jul 2024 21:45:19
I have a feeling the forum may go into meltdown if this signing is announced ? ? ?
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2.) 12 Jul 2024 21:49:45
Replacing a retired 37 year old with a nearly 38 year old . Unbelievable.
3.) 12 Jul 2024 21:57:23
Same age as Joe Hart if I am not mistaken…. Hope he’s still got it ?.
4.) 12 Jul 2024 22:27:33
Great long term planning!
5.) 12 Jul 2024 23:08:53
Kasper is Denmarks No1 and had a brilliant season in Belgium last season. He played all 4 games for Denmark in the Euros and played very well. It’s a free transfer and will be as good a character in the dressing room as Super Joe was. Some people are never happy, I suppose it would be better to start with Scott Bain, please give my head peace, brilliant signing if it happens.
6.) 13 Jul 2024 01:35:18
For this season his experience will be a huge benefit for The Champions League games. A Ch LB and RB infront of him would be perfect for a defensive unit.
7.) 13 Jul 2024 06:24:36
Will we sign another RB Steff? Johnston been getting good reviews at the Copa America for his performances.
10 Jul 2024 12:22:18
We should be all over Lennon Miller, hopefully they don't get him as well.
1.) 10 Jul 2024 12:34:58
The lad is a player. Unlike what we have in our academy. Buy him.
2.) 10 Jul 2024 12:48:57
To put him in our b team and then not play play him . he then gets frustrated at first team chances and leaves . like vata and most probably Daniel Kelly etc etc.
3.) 10 Jul 2024 13:12:53
I’d buy him, send him out on Loan for a couple seasons and see how he progresses. I imagine Motherwell will want 3-4m for him though.
4.) 10 Jul 2024 13:22:12
Miller is better than both of them and still only 17 deep river bhoy2.
5.) 10 Jul 2024 14:18:38
How do you know if they don't get a chance.
6.) 10 Jul 2024 14:38:08
Miller's the best young Scottish player player for some time.
7.) 10 Jul 2024 14:41:23
Anyone that thinks vata left for game time is dreaming.
He left for 3 times the money we are able to offer him.
Wanted same money as most the first team.
Same reason Kelly will go if he does, he's been offered 9 grand a week down south.
8.) 10 Jul 2024 15:03:39
How many times you actually seen him.
9.) 10 Jul 2024 15:08:09
Keev And you know this for sure as you where part of Celtics negotiating team? if we don't play these bhoys then it's time to scrap the whole academy and buy these bhoys when they break into others first teams. then moan and greet cos we've got no academy.
10.) 10 Jul 2024 15:08:12
If celtic can't play a young lad at home against anyone, maybe not against sevco, then just scrap the youth teams, when the management team believe someone has a good future then they have to give them minutes, only way to keep are best young players.
11.) 10 Jul 2024 15:16:21
Buy this lad and play him, never mind putting him out on loan or B team.
12.) 10 Jul 2024 16:06:14
Lennon Miller looks like a player and idove for us to sign him and loan him back to Motherwell for at least a season or two.
Kelly, has looked good for us IMO when he's played last season, he could form part of our midfield in the future should he stay.
Players like Vata who played for 5 mins and think they're Messi are for me, entitled, nowhere near good enough for a starting place or the game time they think they should be getting. No great loss there.
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13.) 10 Jul 2024 17:19:44
Fans are arguing that we should play youngsters in home domestic games . That’s something I have also argued for but surely it goes against what many of our fans think and quote Jock Stein “ The Celtic Jersey doesn’t shrink to fit any player” .
Someone said that Motherwell would want £3- £4 million for him . That’s fair enough if Celtic think he is worth that or more we should buy him . If we don’t value him at anything near that we should ignore him .
Lennon Miller is older than the Spanish whiz kid that has been a shining light at the Euros . If it wasn’t for this youngster the Euros doesn’t see to have introduced us to many young stars.
14.) 10 Jul 2024 16:54:12
I agree with you cmc, and the same goes for the 'projects' we sign from elsewehere. At 18, 19, 20 - if ypu can't get game time for Celtic, at home, a few goals up against Scottish opposition, then you're not that good. Either that or managers bottle doing so.
15.) 10 Jul 2024 18:40:54
I've seen a fair bit of vata. I had a family member in the B team. He was no where near the level to make our first team.
I don't know what people really expect from the youth academy. Every major club around the world only bring through a few players now and then.
For a player to break in to our first team straight away he has to be exceptional like KT and I believe doak would have been.
If not they have to be prepared to be patient and work hard around the fringes of the squad until they get their rewards like Ralston and to a lesser extent welsh.
They are very few of these players leaving our set up that make it at a club anywhere near our level. If they ain't good enough at a lower level then they ain't good enough for us.
Vata will be the next Owen Moffet, .
16.) 10 Jul 2024 18:54:46
If Miller is good enough, he would play . All this crap players are too young, no, they’re just not good enough. Some may get there, but true talent Dan cut it. Problem with us we haven’t produced it since KT. Abysmal. Sign the boy would be my shout. If he’s a Rangers man he might not want to.
17.) 10 Jul 2024 20:00:26
I think Kelly is going to be a fantastic player personally and if Celtic want to keep him the give him the same 9k a week that he has been offered down there.
18.) 10 Jul 2024 22:51:25
We really need to stop this if he's a rangers man nonsense. It means
f-all. Time and time again it gets proven that players go where they get paid best and then where they have the best chance to play and win things.
19.) 11 Jul 2024 19:28:33
I have no more knowledge of what Celtic play their players than anyone else, but I think that if Celtic pay Kelly the £9k per week that he is allegedly promised down south, it will begin a disastrous trend for Celtic which will destroy club in the short time . With Kelly’s wage £9k per week, all the other 16,17 18 and 19 year old players will demand and have to get something comparable . There won’t be a club in Scotland that can match our wages and clubs in England will be looking for English trained youngsters to pay a comparable wage . So we will have more and more players not contributing
I imagine we have first team players on £9k per week, so I don’t see how we can pay Kelly with only a few minutes first team match time can get £9k per wk.
20.) 12 Jul 2024 15:53:44
I don’t think we have the financial resources, or lack of intelligence to buy a player for a few million from another Scottish Club and lend him straight back. In my opinion that would be completely stupid, we would at lest need to bring him in to our club and access the his level of development, if he is good enough a season training with our first team squad should have him ist team ready probably before end of season or certainly from pre- season onwards .
If he isn’t ready for ist team training, maybe a loan from January onwards would be best for him with a review in the pre-season.
07 Jul 2024 00:00:41
We will need too raise our wage budget, but that's not the only problem, good players look at our league and think that isn't for me, most would choice the championship, young talent are only looking to use us as a stepping stone for a move too the epl or a better league, we need to take our poor league into consideration.
1.) 07 Jul 2024 09:59:33
I disagree with you Jamie. The Championship is equally a stepping stone. We have the carrot of CL football which is probably a better shop window. I think we have something unique in that we provide players with the mentality that not winning is unacceptable. The Championship teams are quite happy with 2 wins, 2 draws and a loss in 5 and get a trophy for finishing 3rd.
2.) 07 Jul 2024 10:13:38
I get what you’re saying about the league. But money talks in all walks of life. Players aren’t going to Saudi for the standard of the league or football they’re going because of money. Not saying we can get those standards of players, but it’s the same sort of principle.
3.) 07 Jul 2024 10:38:54
Yes of course money talks toprig, but will we offer good players a better salary than their getting, no, our league is pish poor a major reason why players will not come.
4.) 07 Jul 2024 10:39:29
Our club is a huge temptation/ attraction for players but it's our league that is the negative to many transfers. The standard is seen as poor overall and wages are lower.
Young players and their agents want big money straight away, the time of serving your apprenticeship has gone.
We can accept being a stepping stone for young players to so called bigger leagues and making a lot of money but what's the point if we are not improving the product that is the SPFL. That should be ours, the SFA and SPFL's main agenda and the way to start driving that is getting what we deserve from SLY and other sponsors imo.
It is these companies who are undervaluing our league and pushing the sport in Scotland towards extinction.
Having watched the Euros, I have not been blown away by the standard of the so called big 5 league teams. Lesser nations have played the more attractive attacking football.
So if these lesser teams are performing at a level on par with the'bigger' leagues, why aren't we, is it purely lack of investment at the grass root level or is it something else completely.
People will say that we are partly responsible as we don't make more of our youth system but to compete in Europe we need to buy better quality players, its a catch 22 but our club cannot make a difference on our own, proper investment at grass root level needs to come from somewhere.
We as fans demand success, so are we prepared to wait for our own young players to come through the ranks and develop, accept not buying so many foreign first team ready players, forget winning the league every year and forget CL qualification for years, in the hope that the standard of our the scottish football system improves.
For me, the onus lies with the people who run our game to take the decisions to improve and stand up for our product, it is as if they have run out of ideas or want the clubs to do it themselves.
5.) 07 Jul 2024 11:40:28
What young players who are good enough to hold a place in a better team are you on about? We don’t have any. It would be great if we did, but none of them are good enough. All the hoping in the world won’t change that. The best will get some minutes, fail to impress and that will be that, as it has been since KT. And then it’s Calum and then James. That’s it in nearly 20 years. The reason our recruitment is vital is we produce players for the Dundees of this world.
6.) 07 Jul 2024 17:30:25
Hopefully with the increasing CL and a chance of 8 or more games then we can start to attract a better standard of player as we are now guaranteed European football after Xmas every year.
7.) 07 Jul 2024 17:48:19
Magic, read it again, I didn't say we had any geat young players, I said what do fans want, success by buying slightly better players at greater cost and continually winning domestically, but the quality of the league doesn't improve, and our performances in CL continue to fall or be erratic, or try a model which brings through homegrown young players, with the risk of not winning domestically amd again reducing chances of CL qualification and performance.
Fans want homegrown players but they also want success, so as a club how do we do we do that.
8.) 08 Jul 2024 14:59:04
Our biggest problem is we are paying far too high wages .
That is the only reason that every summer we have more and more players not contributing to us . No other club wants to pay wages and quite rightly our Board has budgeted a max wages budget . Even if we loan out a player and pay some of his wages, he is still having a negative affect on our wages budget for incoming season.
9.) 10 Jul 2024 19:12:55
Agents are very shrewd readers of the game . They can advise a young player to go to a mid table Championship team, knowing that a move to EPL will go smoothly if player improves in England . If he struggles he can easily move down the table or even to a lower league, still on similar wages .
Advising a youngster to join Celtic restricts his chances, if he does very well he can move smoothly to upper Championship or even EPL . However if he regresses, there is a major problem, nobody wants to pay his wage and so he is hanging about in no man’s land with no football available to him.
19 Nov 2024 14:49:43
Same with Trusty.
13 Nov 2024 10:03:54
Lennon Miller should be signed at any cost but can't see him staying in Scotland he also has a bluenose family but sometimes that doesn't matter.
27 Sep 2024 19:02:53
Trusty and Scales ?.
28 Aug 2024 15:36:28
Would definitely prefer another cb don't believe Trusty is even better than scales, Sheffield utd fans can't get him out fast enough.
27 Aug 2024 21:44:14
Is Trusty even better than scales?
20 Nov 2024 12:58:11
He just needs sold.
06 Nov 2024 13:45:20
Personally had us down as winning that game Brian but I never expected that kind of performance, maybe getting a bit carried away bud but am looking for the top 8 now.
05 Nov 2024 18:37:20
Any pyros tonight they need identified and banned, can't see it though, well surely not.
05 Nov 2024 12:58:20
Celtic win, both teams scoring, Kyogo anytime.
01 Nov 2024 11:45:25
Celtic win in 90,both teams scoring, Kyogo anytime Johnston carded, will be a decent price but will wait until line ups before heading to the bookies, Celtic 3/ 4 Aberdeen 1.