28 Dec 2015 18:45:59
Think he would be better than what we have edd just a suggestion.

{Ed007's Note -You might be right, I don't watch Scottish lower league football so I wouldn't know. Do you watch a lot of Hibs matches?}


1.) 28 Dec 2015
28 Dec 2015 19:03:37
Seen him a few times edd. he reminds me of leigh. he has grown up a bit seems to have knuckled down. we have good talent here in scotland whether people like it or not remind me where the lions were all from again. we have wasted ten to fifteen million on rubbish over the last ten years. thing about scottish players is they have been brought up playing here. if we signed messi do u think he would be good playing inverness on a wed night in the snow?


2.) 28 Dec 2015
28 Dec 2015 20:04:01
Yes I think he probably would be.

{Ed007's Note - People said that and are still saying it about Scott Allan.}


3.) 28 Dec 2015
28 Dec 2015 20:10:12
Maybe celtic689 :) . I'd give Messi a place even if he was wearing two jackets and a pair of snow boots.
That said I don't fully agree with the amount of talent Scotland produce. We have a couple of guys that cut it in the epl in mf but they aren't on the same level as guys from other nations down there creativity wise. I'm hard pushed thinking about any of our internationals that have done anything abroad in better footballing leagues in years and it is sad. Till we produce better homegrown players or don't miss out on the best that slip the net then I'd rather have players from the four corners than be sentimental.


4.) 28 Dec 2015
28 Dec 2015 20:15:36
Just to clarify my comment was about whether messi would be any good playing Inverness in the snow on a Wednesday. I've no idea who the initial comment was about.


5.) 28 Dec 2015
28 Dec 2015 20:19:03
We have signed or 'borrowed' some garbage in the last few years - some of them I can't even remember the names? Miko? Braffheid? Brozak? Berget, Balde, Blackman, Bangura, El Kaddouri, Murphy, Kapo, Lassad, Gershon, Moukoyolo, Scepovic, Pukki, Wakaso Blacket, Tonev and a few forgettable others.
The list may go on to include the likes of GMS and Ciftci and a couple more?
Of course we have signed or loaned some gems in the same period, but the amount of unsuccessful signings we have made recently is the reason I do not look forward to transfer windows and worry about the the clubs whole transfer and recruitment strategy from scouting to contract.


6.) 28 Dec 2015
28 Dec 2015 20:24:00
celtic689, I have to disagree with you about Scottish players, I think our leagues up here are of a very poor standard at the moment, there are no Scottish teams who can get through the qualifying rounds of any European competition, and the national team are the only one of the home countries not to qualify for the European championships.
In the last year we have signed 2 Scottish players from Dundee united, but I don't think these players are any better than what we already had, Scott Allan was supposed to be Hibs best player, but so far he doesn't look anything special in our squad. In my opinion, if you keep buying players from Dundee united and Hibs, then you just become Dundee utd or Hibs, I don't think that's setting the bar very high.
The Lisbon lions were from a different era, when Scotland used to produce some really good players, those days have gone at present, I think Celtic should be looking further afield for talent, we should be looking to bring in players who will actually make us better, and not players who make no difference to us, but weaken any competition we have in our own League.


7.) 28 Dec 2015
28 Dec 2015 20:56:25
Robson,Caldwell, Kennedy, mcmanaus,pearson,Hartley,maloney all replaced or where in the process of replacing the seville team and gaps left by departing players afterwards . Few of those guys played a part and were the best we had as a nation to offer but we didn't advance from where we were then as a club and I don't see the point in having a strong scottish scottish core now unless they are good enough. The same applies to our current squad.
It doesn't matter where a player is from.


8.) 28 Dec 2015
28 Dec 2015 21:00:08
I'd have a few of those guys back now over some in our squad


9.) 28 Dec 2015
28 Dec 2015 21:07:20
I think if Ronnie had been in charge of the Lisbon Lions, they would have never have gotten anywhere, he would have rotated the squad so much that, the team would have never have had a chance to gell, he would have kept the creative players on the bench, maybe giving them 3 or 5 minutes at the end of the game, like he's doing with Allan, in favour of the more productive (in his eyes ) players, and play other players away from their best position, like he's doing with Armstrong.


10.) 28 Dec 2015
28 Dec 2015 21:31:50
Aindoh. The players in the lisbon team shoulder to shoulder were some of the best in European football at that time. Stein was one of the best managers of that time. Come on mate. It's a different galaxy.


11.) 28 Dec 2015
28 Dec 2015 21:54:50
They became the best because they were allowed to play together and grow and develop together, and were coached properly and played to their strengths, they grew in confidence and what they lacked in skill was made up in self belief, they were a team first and foremost, i think if Ronnie was in charge, and if he had the same pool as Stein, he would maybe have picked only three of the team that Stein ended up picking.


12.) 28 Dec 2015
28 Dec 2015 22:26:01
You forgot Boerrigter matet, Celtic have had 3 naffish Dutch left wingers over the years (Petta, Blinker) and he is the third best .


13.) 29 Dec 2015
29 Dec 2015 04:39:38
bit harsh on petta there lol he gave me one of my most enjoyable moment's in an old firm match during the 6-2 game where he done ricksen so many times he never even made it to half time before being hooked.


14.) 29 Dec 2015
29 Dec 2015 10:29:19
RD would probably have played jinky as a holding midfielder and Bertie as outside right. Seriously the majority of the Lions had been there for a few years before big Jock arrived and had little success. He made them the team. RD doesn't seem able to make this group of players a team.


15.) 29 Dec 2015
29 Dec 2015 14:42:09
Jock Stein once experimented with playing Big Billie as centre forward .
It didn't work but it didn't mean Big Jock was a bad manager . He also dropped T Gemmill from a League Cup final against Parthick Thistle we got stuffed . Wee Jimmy replaced J Craig injured ( only one sub ) didn't make Jock a bad manager .
Imagine if RD had a squad like that and made some of decisions that Jock made the young uns now would have filled with so much despair and hatred that they would lose control of themselves.


16.) 29 Dec 2015
29 Dec 2015 14:54:14
Think your grasping at straws Oldbhoy.


17.) 29 Dec 2015
29 Dec 2015 23:14:45
My facts are your straws Aindoh . If u don't know the facts don't query . I wouldn't post lies about any Celtic manager, certainly not J Stein.