15 Apr 2013 15:00:58
So the reconstruction is off. Strong rumours that there will be an SPL 2 breakaway. Is this the game Gilmour was playing? Where do we stand if The rangers, as has been pushed for weeks, are "invited" to join? For me I would be sending an e-mail to Mr lawwell to clarify our clubs position. If these teams don't want change, leave it as it is then. No SPL 2. What we are seeing here is, once again, every one bending to get The rangers out of trouble. So let them continue their "journey" in the second division. Then the first. There must be no more talk of ANY reconstruction till they work their way to the top league. The Aberdeen chairman has slated the decision claiming selfishness from certain clubs and the impact would be felt "in weeks". We all know the clubs he mentions, but the in weeks quote is interesting. What could he mean? No sponsor and the TV deal being slashed? I look forward to Mr Lawwell's statement. green jhedi

1.) 15 Apr 2013
Whatever the rejected proposals were or however imperfect they were the rolling out of the bigoted ex players and the comical Keevins to slate them is enough to prove whatever is going on stinks to high heaven. IMHO They really are underestimating Mr Lawell and Mr Desmonds resolve here. They, and by they I mean those who are working to thier own selfish narrow minded and flawed agendas will rue the day. Sopotcelt.

2.) 15 Apr 2013
A nice twist would be, yes start spl 2 by invitation. two leagues of 10. the current spl minus st mirren and ross county. and the present ist division from top to bottom. st mirren and ross let them join the sfl. i'm sure all 1st clubs would vote it in

3.) 15 Apr 2013
@Sopotcelt; I would hope your right mate. This whole charade stinks to high heaven. It's just emerging that the reasons Gilmour cited for voting no, the 11-1 voting system, would be changed to 9-3. This was still knocked back, it seems for whatever reason he just was not having it. This despite agreeing to it in January! I don't think it is to unreasonable to assume he has been "got at". By who we probably will never know. But remember a pal of whyte's was rumoured to be buying Saint Mirren? Their still for sale.

Lawwells statement is crucial, he has season books to sell. Pretty much every fan will be furious at this vote. I'm not one for boycotts, and would respect every fans right to go to games, but I will not be at St Mirren or Dingwall next year. I get the feeling I will not be alone in this stance. green jhedi

4.) 15 Apr 2013
The 2 that rejected the proposal had made it public beforehand so it was doomed then. I wonder if there were any others - you know who I mean - that just voted Yes as an empty vote just to play along?
I am so tired of the shenanigans and under the table deals masquerading as League re-construction just to levitate lazarus loyal?
To be honest I was very apprehensive of the split simply because of the 8-8-8 split nonsense which would have been a farce.
Now we should just get on with it and not entertain whatever 'cunning plan' these horses erses conjure up next week!
I reckon if the leagues stay the same for another year or two TRFC 2012 will never survive and go bust again and that is what's causing all the wee blue guys in wee blue offices to panic.

Jungle Jim.

5.) 15 Apr 2013
Time for listening is over it's about time we looked after ourselves & burst this charade of incompetent blazers apologists thieves bigots racists & tax dodgers. C'mon Mr lawell we are the one's who were prepared to give for the good of the game whilst some not all just want to take take take, go to war Mr lawell release the dog's of war give them the full barrage it's not like there isn't enough ammo. The time for listening & talking is over defend our right as a proud upstanding law abiding charitable club. Myself I have already started & countless others too it broke my heart not attending yday's cup semi but I will never buy a tkt for hampden again. St mirren the team I witnessed my greatest day out against as a teenager Albert Kidd thank you for your contribution that day, have signed there own death warrant imo. I think a lot of our support won't ever visit st mirrens stadium & who can blame them certainly not me for I shall be one of them, same goes for Ross county. HH AbS

6.) 15 Apr 2013
IMHO Mr Lawwell and Mr Desmond knew how this dice would fall. They are shrewd men and Mr Desmond is a particularly intelligent man. They have a plan and they are being taken for fools by lesser men. Its not quite a case of the good the bad and the ugly but someone is going down over this and is not anyone at CFC. Ps the opinions expressed above are based on fictional characters ( ie 2 men masquerading as chairman from lesser clubs who are in fact patsys) and any reflection of real events either now or in future is purely coincidental! Sopotcelt

7.) 15 Apr 2013
AbS. Why do you want St. Mirren and Ross County games boycotted? Lat year when we had the fiasco over what happened to Rangers, we were told, it's what the fans want. Now that 2 teams have listened to their fans again, you are wanting boycotts? what's the reasons here?

The suggested proposals were a shambles. a 12-12-10-10 with an 8-8-8 split has failed in 2 other countries, so why try it here. What happens to team that finish top of 2nd tier. do they get a trophy, or promotion, or maybe even nothing, yet a team 4 places below them can come up. Also talking about fairer distribution of cash. There are teams that can barely fill 2 stands (Killie, St. Johnstone to name 2), yet they will get a higher proportion of money for not changing anything?

I commend the Ross County and St. Mirren for having the balls to stand up and be heard. Something that this country's game has been needing for a long time

8.) 15 Apr 2013
It seems clear to me that St Mirren boss Gilmour has been nobbled. I seem to remember a while back a story about one of the Rangers directors checking over St Mirrens books.

AC75

9.) 15 Apr 2013
Don't forget there has been evidence of collusion between Rangers and Gilmour before. Remember Whyte's plan to buy St Mirren's league place or Green and McCoist making personal representations to Gilmour before the SPL vote last summer.

Gilmour is arrogant and he's small time but I never thought he had a death wish for his business. His stance is all about self interest and protectionism, what if away fans stop buying tickets for St Mirren? I know they are in better financial shape than most SPL clubs but how long could they sustain that drop in revenue? especially with the 'missing' 15,000 loyal fans who were at the cup final.
CBP

10.) 15 Apr 2013
Guys, I posted a reply on here to a The Rangers fan the other week - in which I said it was my feeling there would be an SPL 2, and The Rangers would be invited to join.
I'm not surprised by recent events - except that it is St Mirren involved - and I live in Paisley!

11.) 15 Apr 2013
Samson the tail is wagging the dog mate, nobody thought it was perfect but compromise was the order of the day. Did you see the interview with peter lawell? I trust him & his word as a Celtic supporter, stand back & do f*ck all while the game is dying is that what your advocating & allow those who are only interested in self interest to lie cheat & so on. So I say f*ck them all look after number 1. Last time they had big decisions to make over staying with sly or going with a new tv company setanta what happened? Mr lawell was correct on that one so forgive me if I stick with his thoughts & vision of the game mate. GBNL HH AbS