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23 Jun 2021 21:10:35
in terms of the constant abuse aimed at Kennedy and Strachan. what inside knowledge do people have of Strachan that is justify the abuse he is receiving if its because of the poor season we had then why is stevie woods not included in this abuse as our goalkeepers were very poor this season to. in no way i am saying Stevie deserves abuse just making a point. why was Kennedy also not getting the abuse and told to bolt when we were winning trebles galore if he is that bad surely he must have been bad then to. Kennedy is a celtic man and was part of a great coaching staff in a period that will be remember in decades to come yet he is being slaughtered by his own fans. listen we did not get the 10 its time to move on. a lot of celtic fans contributed to the toxic feel at the club that season there with childish behaviour of protest after going out a cup for the first time in about 4 year iv seen poor seasons before and probably will again and i did not and will never resort to the abuse that happened that season.

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23 Jun 2021 21:30:32
to be fair ui I've not read any abuse on here. guys giving ther opinion on them is exactly that.

23 Jun 2021 21:31:50
Great post United Ireland.

Hail Hail
🍀🍀👏.

23 Jun 2021 21:44:37
ok Liam why is Stevie woods not included.

23 Jun 2021 21:59:08
liamlennon United ireland is correct, Kennedy has been called big nose and gonzo on these pages .

23 Jun 2021 22:06:46
UI Stevie Woods didn't pick the team, substitutions, formations style of play when Lennon left Lennedy DID was there any difference? I don't think so. Are most Celtic fans wanting things to change different style more modern approach to managing and style of play I for one does and I am sure I am not the only one. Kennedy had his chance his chance to show that he could change the SHAMBLES that was last year did he do that? I don't think so no change what so ever same BAD style same bad substitutions nothing changed THAT is why Kennedy should not have the same position that he had last season IF the club wants to change he has to go Celtic man or not.

23 Jun 2021 22:08:38
The question is what role has Kennedy been performing over the years, we should be using Europe as our measuring stick winning domestic trebles and getting thrashed in Europe is only a reflection of how mediocre our domestic league is, our defence has been giving away stupid goals in Europe for years, the managers might change but giving away stupid goals is a constant and so was Kennedy, has Kennedy had anything to do with coaching the defence?, ( These personal attacks on Kennedy are despicable ) .

23 Jun 2021 22:40:46
First and foremost the board sanction the signings that these guys have to work with, frustration has led to abuse, however the frustration I believe as a general consensus is that its directed at the board, Kennedy and Strachan fall into the category based on the fact the continued where Lennon left off, and carried the shambles on, so for me we need new ideas, no grief required simply change of staff and let's crack on and take the title back HH.

23 Jun 2021 23:02:41
That's fair enough point oldkilly but abuse no so sure, UI it doest matter how woods doesn't get the stick what I'm saying is if fans guys have an opinion on Kennedy and Strachan then they are entitled to it.

23 Jun 2021 23:47:56
Don't get me wrong I don't wish Kennedy any harm or wrong doing and I DO wish him luck on his future but not with Celtic I just can't see him improving anything at Celtic just my opinion.

24 Jun 2021 00:53:56
Ui I have no idea if strachan is any good but do feel he is made guilty by association not that I agree. Why would someone who’s reputation is built on stats succeed with Lennon who had no tactical awareness no coaching ability. He may succeed with ange in a forward thinking coaching setup where his skills may be needed i for one believe if and only if ange wants him he should have a shot.

24 Jun 2021 08:31:27
The assumption I continually see implies:

Good Celtic Man = Good Coach

If that were only true! It would be interesting to see how many would want "A Good Celtic Man" or a "Good Coach".

In the SPL we give away far too many chances, but the quality/ technique of the opposition is not good enough to take them. In Europe, that changes, and we have real problems, because the opposition has the quality/ technique to take them.
A well coached, well drilled defensive unit can eliminate/ reduce the chances conceded. (Note that I stated "defensive unit" - meaning the whole team. )
We've recently seen two centre backs running into each other; players attracted to the ball and not seeing the opposition; opposition running into space in our box that should exists. You could go on, I'm sure, but the point is that they don't seem to be coached/ drilled, and whose responsibility is that. It's far too easy to blame it on one man!

24 Jun 2021 08:33:59
agree welshy i think Strachan is getting it a bit unfairly nobody has any insight into him to direct the slander they are at him. if ange wants him then i have no problems with that.

@tony he does not pick the side but he coaches the goal keepers who have been poor this season so why no abuse for Stevie. Kennedy may no be up to the managers job he may just be a good coach he was a coach who was part of a successful spell that will be talked about for a long time not only that he was offered to go with our current manager at the time to be part of his squad and manage in a better standard a league and could have improved himself much working a long side BR for longer but the man stayed loyal to this club and did not abandon us at the time when BR did were is you respect for him after his loyalty BR is probably disliked by the majority of Celtic fans for what he did and probs never welcome back Kennedy is being hounded out because of a poor season something that i find very poor taste imagine being part of a that coaching side that was so successful then manager jumps ship and you stay loyal then go on to do another treble then following season the team have a poor season and the fans turn on you with abuse i think that would hit a nerve in a sad way its not the fan base i want to be associated with its okay having a opinion its the way you go about it he has done this club proud and if ange wants him I'm fine with that. there people at this club who deserve slander for downing tools and not caring about destroying a historic season for us like yer ntcham Christies and eddy people like lenny and Kennedy will have been hurting just as bad as us the day the league was lost and the fan abuse will have hurt them a lot more to.

24 Jun 2021 08:35:10
liamlennon, you're saying that there hasn't been abuse on this forum of Kennedy and Strachan?
Both have been given the treatment but Kennedy in particular has been called a host of derogatory names by a few so called fans. Derogatory names are not an opinion, they're just thick headed comments by halfwit idiots who think it's OK to launch personal attacks on people they don't even know.
As UI suggests, Strachan is possibly getting it in the neck because he's part of the set up but there can be no justification for name calling.
You're a regular reader and commenter on the forum and you're saying you haven't seen any of it? Really? HH.

24 Jun 2021 08:37:26
@ liam it does matter when he is also part of the coaching set up were our keepers have been poor its unfair just to single those two out because of the poor season.

24 Jun 2021 11:08:07
UI I gave Kennedy in my mind the acceptance that he was a good coach that it was Lenny that was holding him back but NOTHING I saw after Lenny left showed me that he was any different indeed it was just like Lenny never left same style same formation same really bad substitutions nothing changed and for that reason I think he needs to go under BR how much input did Kennedy have? I don't know but going by Kennedy tenure in charge he didn't seem to learn anything from that time with Brendan because it looked like the mirror image of Lennon not Rodgers. That is why for me he has to go Kennedy had an opportunity to show what he could do as a manager and as a coach and blew it IMO.

24 Jun 2021 11:45:16
pep or klop could have came in when Kennedy took over and nothing would have changed to many players had downed tools and to much of a toxic feel was ingrained into the squad because of it. if he was that poor Rodgers would not have offered him to go with him to Leicester I'm sure he would know more about Kennedy as a coach than you do. but if you think he is not good enough that's fair enough my point was the personal abuse he has received.

24 Jun 2021 11:53:38
From what I understand, Rodgers is a training ground manager, whereas Lennon is not. Rodgers would, therefore, be supervising training ground drills, etc., but under Lennon, who was doing that?
The manager and his coaching staff must be together, working as a team with the same aims/ goals/ visions. If it's not working, and the manager is sacked, the logical conclusion is if he goes, so his entire coaching staff also goes, since they were supposed to be together as a team.
Sentiment, good Celtic man, or whatever has nothing to do with it. If you are not doing your job properly, you go!

24 Jun 2021 12:05:20
apcelt if he was no good why would a really good manager like Rodgers want him to join him at Leicester if he was not a good coach then he would not have offered. plus him and Lennon delivered a treble as i says the players who downed tools caused this seasons downfall.







 

 

 
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