01 May 2021 13:56:12
Just read mcginns thoughts on his cwltic move, what a mess we made of it, not Pedro's finest hour.
01 May 2021 14:04:55
He done the same sh#t with Toney. At least we are getting a fresh start.
01 May 2021 16:24:44
Reading the interview the lad clearly had his heart set on joining us. We definitely dropped the ball on that one and now he’s probably valued £25m+. Stinks of arrogance on lawells part.
01 May 2021 16:56:12
I keep saying this but if i had been in lawwell's shoes i would have done the exact same.
Mcginn was entering last year of his contract, he wanted to sign for us.
Lawwell was just trying to get the best deal possible for Celtic and did not want to pay a crazy fee for someone likely to be beched. We had brown, mcgregor and ntcham all ahead of mcginn at the time.
I am sure lawwell put forward what he thought was a fair price, taking into consideration the points i just mentioned. He probably thought if i don't get him now i will get him in january or next summer for free or a reduced fee.
So while i am not lawwells biggest fan, i am in agreement with him here.
{Ed007's Note - McGinn would never have sat out his deal at Hibs to sign for us on a free, he wouldn't have done that to Hibs and he wouldn't have done it to St Mirren who were due 30% of the total fee Hibs received.}
01 May 2021 17:16:49
Water under the bridge fellas. Move on.
01 May 2021 18:07:14
Not sure i agree with that ed. If memory serves me correct mcginn left st mirren after his contract had expired or was about to expire. He was supposed to go to america, which would have stopped st mirren getting a fee but the deal fell through. I'm also sure he sued st mirren because of a training ground incident involving thomson, so think that tarnished any affection he had for them.
Going back to mcginns story today, i noticed that he ommitted the fact we matched villas bid but he signed for villa anyway.
{Ed007's Note - McGinn signed for Hibs under freedom of contract and while Hibs only had to pay a development fee they offered St Mirren 30% of the fee when they sold him on.}
01 May 2021 18:32:25
I agree with that ed but he was already out of contract before signing for hibs and the important bit was he was going to america before deal fell through. If he had gone to america st mirren would not got 30% sell on fee.
Think about it, if he cared as much about st mirren as you are suggesting he would not have let his contract run down and would not have agreed to go to america, thus ensuring st mirren didn't get development fee.
{Ed007's Note - I'm not suggesting anything. John McGinn would NEVER have seen out his contract at Hibs to sign for Celtic because Hibs and St Mirren wouldn't get any money.}
01 May 2021 18:46:08
I still think the McGinn saga had something to do with Lawwell messing the rat around which was why he upped and left midseason.
01 May 2021 19:07:07
LAW, whether Celtic agreed to match Villa's fee was never really of any concern to McGinn. He said it had gone on and on for far too long, 2 or 3 months I think, and when Villa came in and showed themselves to be keen then that's why he went.
He said they made him feel wanted whereas Celtic pissed about trying to haggle over a few quid.
I don't blame him for doing what he did, especially (if it's true and it is widely believed to be so) when he and his agent were at CP waiting to sign the contract and Lawwell phoned Hibs to try and negotiate a lower fee and when he was told to feck off he called the deal off, supposedly to make a point to Rodgers that he was in control.
I think McGinn and Hibs did the right thing. HH.
01 May 2021 19:27:00
We messed-up no argument the boy was desperate and we took it to the wire and it backfired big time.
01 May 2021 20:10:24
Like many other deals over the last 3 or 4 years, we have been operating like an amateur club in that respect.
01 May 2021 21:41:30
Ed you are suggesting something. You are suggesting mcginn would not have let his contract run down because he wanted hibs and st mirren to get money.
However, as i pointed out mcginn had already ran down his contract at st mirren and had agreed to go to america before the deal fell through.
If he was that concerned about st mirren being renumerated then he would not have done that.
If you think otherwise you are ignoring this fact or have other information. I have provided evidence to reinforce why i don't accept your ascertion. If you want to disagree then you should provide evidence to back your opinion.
{Ed007's Note - I'm not suggesting anything, I'm stating facts. You can stick with your conspiracy theories but I'll trust McGinn himself and his family.}
02 May 2021 06:35:07
So it is a conspiracy that mcginn ran down his contract at st mirren and then agreed to sign for an american team but the deal fell through?
Or is it a fact?
02 May 2021 06:56:08
By he way ed nothing i have put is a conspiracy.
All i have done is give my opinion based on the facts i have available. You said you didn't agree with my opinion and stated why.
I then stated why i didn't agree with your opinion and provided an example that contradicted what you said.
If you have evidence of john mcginn saying he would not let his contract run down at hibs, then please provide it. I will then read it and if it is clear that what you said is correct then i will alter my opinion.
This is how adults debate, no need for the ad hominem, which is what wee kids do.
{Ed007's Note - John McGinn himself told his dad, his brother, his agent and Peter Lawwell that he wouldn't do it.}
02 May 2021 10:14:57
Can you provide a link then so i can read it as I have never seen that information.
{Ed007's Note - A link to what?}