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04 Jan 2021 15:28:06
Just thinking about the past few seasons and managers etc. I know Ronnie got slated by some players and posters on here but do you think he would have been held in a higher regard if he came in after Rodgers?

From what I've read they both have simialr ideas on nutrition and development but as Ronnie wasn't a "big name manager" not all the players bought in to it and caused him problems. When Rodgers came in with the same ideas it was lauded as amazing and forward thinking.

I do remember Rodgers commenting on the good work done by Ronnie so I wonder if he came in after would the culture of fit 24hour athletes continued?

I think we gave all noticed a decline in the teams fitness and professionalism over the last 18 months or so which also fits in with the decline in performances over the same period.

Maybe nothing to it, just thinking out loud I suppose.

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04 Jan 2021 15:31:55
Bring him home.

04 Jan 2021 15:45:29
As long as he doesn't bring John Collins with him ha ha.

04 Jan 2021 15:46:47
love the fact that ronny deila has became klopp all of a sudden in the eyes of some supporters,

04 Jan 2021 16:09:19
If ronny had been back the same way the last 2 managers were then I think he would have been a bigger success.
Ronny asked for the training ground improvements and the new pitch, he was told no. Rodgers got both.
He wanted to bomb out certain players and was told no, rodgers bombed them out.
He didn't get 7 million pound defenders or 9 million pound strikers.

04 Jan 2021 16:15:08
I read somewhere that Ronny said the Celtic job was too much for him the expectancy to win every game had put his blood pressure through the roof and he would wake up during the night in a cold sweat. he didn't have the right mindset, maybe a good assistant manager for celtic but we need someone that can take the pressure in his stride a quality manager with european experience.

04 Jan 2021 16:24:07
Liam I love the way some people on here think Lennon is a football manager.

04 Jan 2021 16:58:06
tony i think there must only be 10% of supporters if that on here that think lennon should still be in a job so you must be talking about not many at all. we talk about how the manager should carry himself believe me ronny deila liked a drink more than lennon does deila was stroaming about the pubs in the town steaming every weekend, the states that i personally seem him in were embarrassing, and tell me this what has deila went on to do since he left us so please stop trying to make this man something that he isn't.

{Ed007's Note - Ronny Deila is the Head Coach of New York City FC who are owned by City Football Group, the same folk that own Man City and a host of other clubs around the world.}

04 Jan 2021 17:14:09
I never knew that about RD but I do think he improved the team unlike Lennon.

04 Jan 2021 17:17:52
i know he is, what's he achieved?

{Ed007's Note - You don't think it's an achievement to work as a Head Coach for the City Football Group? Considering how poor a coach/manager people in Scotland have been told he is since he arrived, for some of the biggest, richest and most knowledgeable people in football trust him to do a job is quite an achievement in itself wouldn't you say?}

04 Jan 2021 17:58:12
no i don't, not in the slightest, id give you the richest that's about it and i would also guarantee you that ronny deila will go on to do absolutley nothing in his managerial career, also i ask this would you want him back just now when we let lennon go?

{Ed007's Note - So the City Football Group don't know what they're doing 😂😂 behave yourself, Liam.
I'd have taken Ronnie Corbett before Lennon when he got the job permanently the first time never mind just now but yes I would take him back if the Club was going to be ran properly with footballing people making footballing decisions.
People with a lot more knowledge about football than me like and rate Deila and he will still be working in football when Neil Lennon's sharing his sus with BFKB on Sly.}

04 Jan 2021 18:00:32
tony he also nearly got the team in norway he was managing relegated and done a shocking job there, did you know that?

{Ed007's Note - Jurgen Klopp took Mainz down to 2. Bundesliga and they stayed down with him in charge, Arsene Wenger's first managerial job ended in relegation at Nancy, Roberto Marinez took Wigan down, Antonio Conte was relegated with Arezzo, Sean Dyche, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and Eddie Howe have all managed teams to relegation.}

04 Jan 2021 18:19:34
Klopp has become Ronny btw Liam.

04 Jan 2021 18:21:50
because one group like him because he made an impression on them through one visit to they're set up doesn't say anything in my eyes nat at all in saying that he had to fight off the offers he had to take the job after the shocking job he done in norway. to say you would take deila back is one of the most laughable comments I've heard on here now you behave yourself ed. what you are doing there is compare him to lennon which ain't what I'm doing I'm saying is deila ain't the super coach that some supporters are now making out as i say he will do nothing in his career and like lennon will probably only get a job in the scottish premiership deila will go on to manage a middle rate club in norway.

04 Jan 2021 18:26:35
i can't believe that you are comparing ronny deila with that group you have just mentioned that's laughable. as i said deila will manage in norway again at best.

{Ed007's Note - I'm not comparing RD to them, their teams were relegated whilst RD's wasn't. Btw, being 8th in the league - where Valerenga finished in his first season - in a league with 16 teams isn't nearly getting a team relegated by any stretch of anyone's imagination. That finish was followed by finishing 6th and 10th in his final season. He was doing such a shocking job that Valerenga gave him a new 3-year contract in December 2019.
Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story though, Liam - the Scottish press thrive off of that.}

04 Jan 2021 18:43:58
Aged 35 RD won the Norwegian cup with Stromsgodset and the league 3 years later, he was also manager of the year in 2013.
A young manager with a reputation for bringing young players through ( Ajer being one of them )
He came here and won the league all before he was 40.

{Ed007's Note - Ajer, KT and Callum McGregor wouldn't have played for Celtic if it wasn't for RD.}

04 Jan 2021 18:50:13
Haven't been on in a while Happy new year to everyone for the record Ronnie deila is under appreciated he moved Celtic forward years he bought ajer Christie loaned out mcgregor moved tierney to first team loaned a young Patrick Roberts ask for improvements in barrowfield and lennoxtown improved fitness and nutrition but got gave no money guy is a legend and the city football group believe in him he can't be that bad.

{Ed007's Note - Hi, Frank. Happy New Year to you mate.}

04 Jan 2021 18:56:32
he was fighting relegation but obviously went on to finish 10th of 16 that's facts and what i said. anyway we will agree to disagree although i would like to see the uproar if we brought deila back to succeed lennon that you say you wouldn't mind.

{Ed007's Note - Like we keep saying about giving out league titles at Christmas, relegation isn't decided until the end of the season. Even if he was fighting relegation you're using the fact he kept his team in their league as a failure. I've given you a list of managers that a lot of fans would love to see manage or coach Celtic that have actually been relegated, they couldn't keep their team in the league.
Or is that a good thing to you, helped them learn, made them the man they are etc etc .}

04 Jan 2021 18:53:08
Right ed my weekend was bad enough without reading pish about Ronnie can you ban all haters 😂😂😂😂.

{Ed007's Note - Just ignore them mate, heathens and philistines the lot of them!


04 Jan 2021 18:54:39
Why not? Two players there came through the ranks.

{Ed007's Note - RD being here was a big part of Ajer coming here, Lennon preferred Izaguirre to KT who needed to be playing first-team football and McGregor was on his way out the door until RD came in.}

04 Jan 2021 19:01:37
oh and he must be top notch with the mighty valerenga giving him a 3 year contract.

{Ed007's Note - They did, then one of the biggest businesses in the whole of world football gave him a job as a Head Coach, but they don't know what they're doing either 😂😂 I mean look at the mess they've made of Man City since they took over, clueless bams the lot of them.
Did Ronny dip your bird one of those many nights you seen him stoating about drunk?}

04 Jan 2021 19:11:01
Ronnie was a great guy but I wouldn’t want him back at Celtic.
I didn’t think the squad were as fit as they were made out to be.
I also thought Ronnie played the same system and he struggled when a change was needed.
But he was a young manager when he was at Celtic and he has probably learned loads from the experience and the years since he left.

{Ed007's Note - I'd love him to come back just for the absolute meltdown some people would have 😂 If the board aren't going to change they might as well just go full on pi$$takes.}

04 Jan 2021 19:16:00
read scott alans interview and that will tell you about his nutrition. every manager will bring some young players through and sign some decent players he also brought in carlton cole, kazim richards, wakaso, scepovic, cifti, allan, tyler blacket to say a few he also played armstrong as a winger his team was ****ed after 60 minutes got beat off our biggest rivals in semi final of scotch cup lost 6-1 in euro qualifier v legia warsaw again this is just to mention a few and i could have won the league with the Sevconians not being there and we were still in a title fight with aberdeen.

{Ed007's Note - Aye, John Park, Peter Lawwell and his buddy Dudu Dahan had nothing to do with those signings. You are having a nightmare here, Liam and I'm not going through all the recruitment stuff again, Liam.}

04 Jan 2021 19:23:01
Ronnie was our Ralph ragnick and we let him go he will go on to great things.

04 Jan 2021 19:27:19
To be fair to Ronnie,
He was brilliant for the development to KT which brought in £25 million to our club.

{Ed007's Note - We've spoke about it before, Leon, I honestly think running an academy would be the ideal job for him. And if Brendan Rodgers was all for Kennedy to be made our DOF surely Deila could do that job for someone as well.}

04 Jan 2021 19:43:09
And Liam I think u will find lawell and dahan are capable for most of the tosh we have signed deila is the DOF we should be looking for maybe he needs to learn tactically more about the game to be a good manager but the attitude he has to building a football club from ground up from youth development and fitness and nutrition to scouting and a bargain spotter he should have been given more time and money Peter lawell is what's wrong with Celtic mate.

04 Jan 2021 19:43:21
I'd have him back as assistant coach or director of football or some sort of role like that. By his own admission the job was too big for him but he had the right ideas about how the club should be run.

That said, I don't want our next manager to have his assistants forced on him either.

{Ed007's Note - That's a huge problem, HT - remember I took pelters for questioning the Collins appointment - and it's just another thing Lawwell wants to control.}

04 Jan 2021 20:43:34
haha good one ed no its not that hw wasn't fit enough to do anything with the misses and no I'm certainly having no nightmare here it would be a nightmare if we were to get him back in some capacity that you would want. i know who signs the players but he was the manager at the time simple as that the same as lennon is just now and the blame will they with him for these signings.

{Ed007's Note - For all I slag Lennon I always say you can't blame him for the signings. It's one of the biggest problems at the Club whose controlling that.}

04 Jan 2021 20:46:32
the fact that he's also wanted back by a couple of yous for DOF or somebodys assistant said it all.

04 Jan 2021 21:06:48
fairdos ed thanks for the discussion it past the night mate.

{Ed007's Note - You're pencilled in for the phone-in show, Liam 😁

04 Jan 2021 21:17:26
I wouldn't want RD back either but I do think he done a lot more than Lennon And god knows what the board are thinking about it's like they are trying to self destruct the football club just so strange.

04 Jan 2021 21:40:10
Liam honest question do u think Peter lawell Neil Lennon or dermot Desmond knows more about youth development player development European scouting in game tactics and fitness and nutrition Ronnie deila built the spine of our team for under 5 million under him even with the Duds and Duda and lawell with the tierney sale we would of made millions of profit he was never given a fair chance and you look at the waste of talent in the colts karma oko lid we lose him what a joke a wonder kid and no new contract a joke oko flex no new contract Henderson Welsh church mcinroy Connell Hepburn to Bayern we are wasting talent deila would have nurtured.

{Ed007's Note - Until Ronny I Was Never Happy......

04 Jan 2021 21:53:38
I'm not saying he did everything right ed I just think he deaerves more credit when u look at what he did.

{Ed007's Note - I'm agreeing with you, Frank. It was a common expression within the Celtic family at the time because of his outlook and approach. Rodgers took us to to elite levels as much as he could but Ronny had laid the groundwork. I'm not saying he was the New Messiah but he certainly wasn't just a naught Bhoy either and he deserves respect for winning us trophies and trying to modernise and improve the Club.
In 20 years time I assure you and most solemnly say to you that fans will look back and see what Ronny Deila tried to do and wish we had listened to him and his ideas.
We're stuck in a shitty bubble of parochialism where being in front of TRIFC is the be all and end all of our lives and we should have left them behind like $hit our shoe.}

04 Jan 2021 22:35:08
Yea we should have left them behind and continued improving after Rodgers we need a coach with the same man management skills and reputation to bring in top quality and keep our best players if I got my choice I would have spaletti of not ragnick who would u pick ed and u can't say bielsa lol.

04 Jan 2021 22:35:57
At least RD admitted his limits and did the decent thing. Lennon doesn’t even realise that he’s so far out of his depth!

04 Jan 2021 23:15:24
frank what is your question?

04 Jan 2021 23:50:07
My question Liam is why don't u rate Ronny.

05 Jan 2021 06:08:17
My answer is because his team was pish and like chasaboy said he knew his limits.

05 Jan 2021 10:47:54
He knew his limits as a manager, I do thinks he has other attributes. MANY, MANY more than anyone in post currently at our club!



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