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17 Oct 2020 14:55:39
Due to work I didn't get to see the game today . I'm only going by what I've read here and on the BBC live text. Again it seems players not turning up and no motivation from the manager and backroom staff. Too late with substitutions and no change of formation or tactics. that's 3 games against them now where the tactics deployed by us seem to suit the opposition rather than making it difficult.
When you get a chance Ed what's your take on today? Your opinion/ breakdowns aren't usually too far away from what I'm thinking during/ after the game when I've seen it.

{Ed007's Note - We set up wrong considering the players available - I said the other day I didn't fancy Frimpong playing as a RWB against them - and the decision to start Ntcham & Klimala was crazy unless Klimala starting was because of fitness issues with Ajeti & LG but we'd have been better getting the time out of either of them from the start. Turnbull should have started instead of Ntcham and we should have started in a 4-5-1.
It was the disaster we've got used to under Lennon and once agian he didn't know how to change things while his usual brainstorm of switching Forrest from right to left was off the cards. Lennon appears to be clueless to what his best team is AND how they should play, today's match - just like the CL qualifier - was another game we wouldn't have lost with Moyes in charge.}

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17 Oct 2020 19:07:30
Agree with everything you said ed and said the same myself prior to kick off and lennon has to shoulder responsibility for his part.

That being said the fact we had a large number of players on international duty and they didn't was also a factor. Add to that the fact we lost 4 key players due to C.V., also hindered us today.

Anyway, the important thing is how we respond to defeat today. Let's not forget if we win our game in hand there is only 1 point between us.

{Ed007's Note - I'm not panicking mate, the 10 will still be won.}

17 Oct 2020 19:10:42
I’m not a fan of Moyes either Ed but would definitely rather have him than Lennon. I liked Lennon as a player but he doesn’t seem to have learned anything during his time in management roles. I have never seen anyone waiting until the last 7 minutes to bring on 2 substitutes unless they were winning and wanted to burn a couple of minutes and disrupt the game a wee bit.

{Ed007's Note - I'm no great fan of Moyes either but he would have continued the high (Pub League) standards behind the scenes and helped refresh the youth & scouting system if he was allowed to. People moan about his style of football but look at the dross we're watching just now and who knows he may have changed his approach in a lesser league. We'd definitely be harder to beat, we'd be better organised tactically and at set-pieces players would know exactly what's required of them. The players would know who's the boss and if you're not pulling your weight you will be dropped.
If Moyes had been appointed instead of Lennon I reckon there would be a lot of fans - including me - who would have changed their mind about him by now.}

17 Oct 2020 19:24:25
Wow ed . it won't just Happen . something needs to happen.
Is there a pending clear the air

Something needs to change and if not management, then attitude/ behaviour and that will take some kind if reckoning.

{Ed007's Note - Jeez oh the last thing we need is clear the air talks - look what happened at Hibs when the done that 😂 In saying that.......
Lennon's never managed in the Pub League or any top league so how the Hell could he keep on continuing Rodgers' work, even the foundations Ronny laid are beyond Lennon's comprehension.}

17 Oct 2020 19:33:47
we only had 2 more players on international duty.

17 Oct 2020 19:24:53
Thanks for the reply Ed, as most weeks the line up does my head in, midfielders up front etc the old square pegs in round holes. Glad you still see the 10 coming. Do you think lennon will be here when it does? I had said preseason I think his race is run by Christmas and someone else will be the one to see us over the line. Can see the whole club looking different come the start of next season.

{Ed007's Note - I said months ago, whether we win the 10 or not that DD and the board need to look at shaking things up and modernising the way the Club is ran, we need to replace Lawwell with a new CEO and appoint a DOF.
I do think Lennon will be here for the 10 as over the course of a season we have better resources in squad quality and size.}

17 Oct 2020 21:02:34
what foundations did deila lay?

{Ed007's Note - Diet and nutrition, sports science, data analysis regarding personal performance, rewarding youth players like McGregor and Teirney who proved they were better in the first team than wasting away until they moved elsewhere for peanuts.....
When Brown went down for dinner and met Rodgers he explained to him how he expected his players to be the complete athlete and live like professional athletes yet when Deila pushed the same ideas he was ridiculed. You're deluded if you don't think Deila done good work in modernising thing and moved the Club forward behind the scenes.
We need to move away from looking at managers with a Celtic connection as it's holding us back, I say it every time the job comes up that I would love to see a list of people who are interested in it, a lot of people would be very surprised and Lawwell would be terrified of it being made public.}

17 Oct 2020 22:16:33
I know what Rodgers done. lennon before that gave Forrest his chance.

{Ed007's Note - Aye and how long did it take him to get up to a decent standard?}

18 Oct 2020 14:40:10
Well that's fairdos mate Rodgers certainly improved Forrest to another level.



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