Celtic Banter Archive November 09 2011

09 Nov 2011 23:00:59
I see the bears are running a top 3 old firm goals on their page personally my choices would be
1) Lambert's screamer into the postage stamp in new year game 97-98
2) Larssons chip on Klos 00-01
3) Suttons last minute strike to make it 6 old firm victories in a row. Interested to see others choices..... Stevie

My 3 favourites are the ones that upset the Gers fans the most....lol

Joeshmo1888

This is not so much a favourite goal as one I will always remember:-
The Scottish Cup Quarter Final season 03/04 against Rangers and we won 1-0 Larsson. I was 'forced' to watch it in a Rangers pub and was the longest 2 hours of my life & I was a tad tipsy by the final whistle ! We went onto win the Cup - Mrs E

I think Suttons chip made it a record 7 old firm victories in a row, and 5 in one season. Martin O'neill really put big eck in his place that season.
paddybhoy

I should hope Martin O'Neill put Big Eck in his place that season, Big Eck's Rangers team was full of Bosman signings lol.......

Klos,F.De boer, Rd.boer,Ricksen,Ferguson,Nerlinger, Mols,Arteta, aye big eck was toiling right enough
paddybhoy

Think you'll find head to head McLeish won more trophies than O'Neill did.

Gerry The Ger.

Scott McDonalds winner at ibrokes has to be up there, the way he turned there defender and volleyed the ball into the top corner. Naka's amazing swerving strike in the 2-1 win. Maloney's blooter into top corner from 35yrads by Klos. Thomson's swerving strike that Klos got nowhere near. Lamberts top corner thunderbolt......but of course Larsson's run by three rankers defenders before chipping it into empty net!

DazzaBhoy

Gerry your talking p*sh, they both won 7 trophies. MON won more league titles though!

DazzaBhoy

Mo Johnson's winner for gers st ibrox

Dazzabhoy hence why i said head to head. Not counting the total time each manager was in charge.

Gerry The Ger.

Gerry, you are wasting your time with that one.

Really? When O'Neill and McLeish were in opposing dugouts i think you'll find MCleish had the better trophy record. Check the facts, i'm sure ed007 will concur. Not saying McLeish was a better manager, just he won more trophies when in direct competition with O'Neill.

Gerry The Ger. {Ed007's Note - I have had workmen in the house all day and it is a riot and you want me to work that out ;-)

Martin O'Neill 2000-2005
SPL Titles: 2000-1, 2001-02, 2003-4
SC Titles: 2001 2004 2005
LC Titles: 2001

Alex McLeish 2001-2006
SPL Titles: 2002-3, 2004-5
SC Titles: 2002, 2003
LC Titles: 2002, 2003, 2005.

Gerry, I meant with Daz, lol.

Alright ed 007 hope your well. Not meaning to pickle your head mate, just showing the unnamed poster i'm right and they're not and they know hee haw.

Gerry The Ger. {Ed007's Note - No probs mate, Moneypenny has came in and seen the nick of the house so I am upstairs in the office room listening to some Pink Floyd to relax me, jusst because she has been out working all day, I had to sit in the house with no electricity trying to work out how to work a Galakxy S2 phone, I maybe shouldn't have asked what was for dinner, we don't have a kitchen right now......ooops:-)

Soz unnamed poster lol.

Gerry The Ger.

09 Nov 2011 21:15:48
Hay ed. Just reading about big Marc Antoine Fortune statistics he had 10 goals and a 11 assist in 32 appearance. Sammy has 28 goals in 91 appearance. I would of like to have seen the big guy with abit of quality around him or maybe he would of jus been another sammy.bigirishmac {Ed007's Note - I was very disappointed by Fortune. I thought he would have been a decent signing.}

A visiting bear , why are you so anxious to see us in admin. Just think how you will feel when we still win the league after ten point deduction. Think you have enough problems at your place, you should stop worrying about ours.

09 Nov 2011 18:14:46
Seriously what exactly is the point of Scotland playing Cyprus??

Well all the rest of the Internationals are on so getting the Scotland team together and trying out more younger boys in the squad can only be a positive thing. Not as if the players could play with their clubs over the international break anyway.

Pointless game

They say the more you practice something the better you get at it so by that thinking surely it can only be good for the lads.As above poster stated any experience gained for young or new members of the team can only help.Well lets hope so anyway. shaun h

What's the point of playing a friendly against an Irish select side? Cause Celtic done that at the start of the season {Ed007's Note - As part of an invitational tournament.}

09 Nov 2011 17:43:47
You asked for a joke Timalloy, the best I can come up with is......
Operation Tango.
Now that was splendid.
Bosley.

09 Nov 2011 15:45:12
I've been working down south for a few months and recently in Bolton. The rumours r rife down here that Celtic have already been sounding out Owen coyle to replace Neil Lennon. This was quoted to me as being a massive possibility depending how many points the gap was after the next old firm game. Coyle's football and passion for the game aswell as Celtic make this sound more than a rumour.

Coyle wont move

09 Nov 2011 15:14:17
Ed was it not the sfa and all clubs that agreed to clubs needing so many youth players in there starting squad?so why moan when the old firm buy the best young players?trickycelt! {Ed007's Note - The SPL made the rule, there have been attempts to get it changed.}

Also ed007 when the old firm don't get them and they go south the clubs get penny's for them.cant see anything changing,trickycelt.. Or am I missing the point? {Ed007's Note - No mate, sounds about right to me.}

It was brought in cos the SPL was awash, at the time, with foreign players.
The costs of which are only now starting to bite in a big way for the league.
The Real KB

Ed just on another note why not make all British teams enter the fa cup.. Or if not make one up coz carling cup has finished its sponsor so replace that with a Brit cup? Any thoughts ? Trickycelt {Ed007's Note - I think the idea of some from of inter league cup could be a winner.}

No but the point i was trying to make was there isn't enough Scottish talent look at Spain they could put a world class team out twice and and there's not much between them and there avrege age is 24 then you have Brazil which are just full of talented footballers Argentina Holland even England they all have very good players and who do Scotland have Fletcher and Adam and brown now with a new couple of Scottish talent like Rhodes and Forrest now that's just not enough we need to find some Scottish talent from somewhere because it does seem very hard about 15 to 20 years ago it seemed a lot easier to find good Scottish players and now we just need to hope something good will come out soon when we find 10 Scottish homegrown talents instead of 2 am not saying be like Spain that's obviously asking to much at this time but i just hope soon we can be a half decent country with half decent players i don't think were asking for to much

If the 2018 World cup bid had have been successful, was there a plan to take games to Scotland ?
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - I'm sure there was talk KB mate, but not 100% sure.}

09 Nov 2011 12:11:12
Another weekend , once again , "ambassadors" of Rangers are out on the razz
displaying the "social graces" honed during their time at Ibrox. ........
First there was Grant Adam "entertaining" people on the street "karaoke"
Then Scott Nisbet "raising a glass" to a Celtic fan. .....

People in glass houses? Nothing proven with young adam and where does it say mr nisbetts alledged victim was a tic fan? muckraking again.

kingbear {Ed007's Note - I don't read papers as you know, but I was told he was a CFC fan, not saying it's true, it could just be more sensationalism but I think it was over a woman, not football anyway.}

My point exactly, if adam is found guilty then he should be punished accordingly. But according to the thread I read online,it was as you say over a woman and no mention of football.

He never says it was over football he says ...displaying the "social graces" honed during their time at Ibrox. ........


rs

So saying that his alledged victim was a celtic supporter has nothing to do with football does it? Mmmmmm the mind boggles! Own house in order!

Kingbear

09 Nov 2011 00:48:26
Got a clip from my wee bro, about the best player I'm ever likely to see in my life (would have to be something really special, no one out there is near him). Ofcourse im talking about the one and only King of Kings Henrik Larsson !! We were so lucky to hold on to such an amazing player who could have walked into any team in the world and he stuck with us ofcourse towards the end of him playing he went to Man Utd & Barca. Who could possibly do that nowadays, No one!!
I loved every minute of him playing for us and his emotional fairwell showed just how much we ment to him. Love you forever Henrik Larsson!!
Here is a wee clip of ten of his goals (one of,im sure you can imagine which one will live in history as much as he will ;)
Hail Hail
CB67

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BFkPWvTE_4&feature=related {Ed007's Note - I loved Henke but it kind of stuck in my throat he said he was going home after his CFC contract expired then went to Barca, and his benefit match was an embarrassment to the club, after 7 years on TOP dollar?? Still one of the best players I have seen in the Hoops though, maybe I'm just a bit to old to buy into the euphoria over players that has recently took over the game nowadays. He is also a complete gentleman, I have met him on a few occasions.}

In what way was his benefit match an embarrassment? For the money he would make I take it ? I think we owded the guy for all his years of top quality football and loving the fans,club and its history. A quality thays lacking in the vast majority of so called players now.
Jees look at these pre-madonnas down south or Tevez! Thats embarrassment Ed!! {Ed007's Note - He was only here for 7 years, it wasn't deserved. No other player gets a benefit match for 7 years service at any club unless their career has been sadly ended. There was no need for the match what so ever, it wasn't even a testimonial.}

He's a Hero. End of {Ed007's Note - I agree, I just think his exit could have been handled better by all parties.}

Hmmm not sure I'm with you on this one bud, You only get a guy like him once in every 50 years or so. I for one was happy to be at the match and thought this guy should be celebrated, Barca played a tribute match to him (not sure bout Man Utd). C'mon Ed your getting grumpy and old me thinks?? {Ed007's Note - I am not disputing he was an amazing player, just why he actually warranted a benefit match? Why not have had a charity match for the whole Seville team instead? I just fail to see why a player is honoured in such a way after only being at a club for 7 years, it is unheard of. What game did Barca play for him??}

Henke himself said when I look at my salary at the end of the month it amazes me. I cannot believe how much I am paid. I generally agree with the Ed as Henke is a single minded man and what he said would have been taken on by CFC re his testimonial. He is one of my all time heroes and I do find it very difficult saying anything about him which is not completely complimentary but the Ed has a point and its pretty easy to grasp really. {Ed007's Note - He was and always will be a hero to me also mate, it was just the benefits match annoyed me, was it Henke or was it CFC looking for an extra income?}

Celtic promised Henrik this match, i don't know why. But what annoyed a lot of people, was that the fans paid for it. The club should have paid Henrik as promised, and let the seaon ticket holders in for nowt. Any money paid at the gate could have went to a charity of Henriks choice.
paddybhoy {Ed007's Note - Exactly mate, the match was to pay Henke's loyalty bonus that he was due from the club, instead of the board paying for it, the fans did.}

Poor mans boyd :oP

Germinator

As we sang on the night boydy eclipsed his "record" "oh ye can stick yer henrik larsson up yer a**e"

kingbear

I agree ED. I was at the Seville game and it kinda hit me when i was sitting their. A benefit game for him was a bit much. He could have made us millions by signing for another club whilst still in contract with us, but instead tells us hes going home. Gets well over a million out of the club, paid by us, then goes to Barca and Man Utd. As much as i loved him i will always feel a wee bit cheated.
Anyway, he was still the King of Kings.

Joeshmo1888 {Ed007's Note - Thanks mate, I wasn't dissing him, just pointing out the facts surrounding his departure.}

Yeah Kingbear....Larsson & Boyd are similar pppft ! I would have been embarrassed to sing a song like that. Boyd was an SPL goalscorer, Larsson a fantastic footballer who could also score goals -Mrs E

And we have the first bite of the afternoon .... the rest of ye's well done but Mrs E let me know wen u want that hook removed :oP

Germinator

I'm back at work tomorrow so no need for hooks... Is that your way Germ of agreeing with me ? - Mrs E

Na quite the opposite almost to be honest ..... I along with the rest of Ibrox sung that lol ...... I think that boyd breaking his record is something Boydy should be very proud of... Was he a good a player course not thats just ludicrous every gers fan should (lol emphasis on should) be able to admit that Henrik was twice the player but if anything that just makes boyds feat all the more impressive.

Germinator

King Bear , are you Tony The Ger using a psyudenym ? cos you sound like him getting all hot n bothered when someone "pokes" a bit of fun at anything Rangers , but only too willing to slag everything Celtic , do you not realise what an eejit you sound even mentioning Chris Boyd in the same sentence as Henrik Larsson , that would be like me comparing Wayne Biggins to Ally McCoist , have a word wae yersel and don't be so stupid , great song though did you think of that one all by yersel ?

I'll give you that Germ...it is a record he should be proud of. I judge folk that would say he was a better player & their opinion losses all credibility - Mrs E

Did larsson not get the benefit game due to the fact he signed an extension to his contract despite more money being offered down south. We couldn't match the wages but we offered the benefit game and the money it generated? I might be wrong but for some reason that's in my head {Ed007's Note - No, it was a loyalty bonus he was due for seeing out his contract, it part of his contract. The board didn't pay it, the fans did by buying tickets for the benefit game, it saved the board money, the fans paid Henke what the board had promised him.}

Yea being totally serious MRS E. Boyd was an spl goalscorer, scoring vital goals against "little teams" that won SPL Titles much the same as larsson did? Embarrassed about the song, no because as Germinator said- with larsson being a better player it made Boydys record all the more special. Also to the annonymous poster- no I'm not Tony and no I can't claim that song as mine as the other 50 odd thousand ppl were singing it too. Does the song offend you because it seems that way!
Kingbear ;p

Comparing Boyd to Henke is a joke. Boyd was the ultimate Rangers player, fouling, obstructing, backing in and rarely being pulled up for it. Analysis of his game points to him being a habitual fouler and he only got away with it dare I say it (oh no another conspiracy) because he wore the loyal colours of the chosen peeephell! He is not a bad player but in a grown up proper league where they play football he would have lasted 5 mins and scored less than half of the goals he got in the Ess Pee Ell. Imagine him trying his classic backing in and elbow tactic in Spain or France or even in the renown Championship. Clear foul and two or three and he off the pitch. He cant get a game for Scotland, he has been a shocking failure in the CHampionship and no one but no one in the EPL is interested in him. Comparing him to Henke is not only innaccurate but IMO pretty offensive. {Ed001's Note - did you ever see Shearer play? If you think Boyd was bad, Shearer was little short of a thug, but he got away with it constantly. Not because of the team he played for, but because refs just aren't looking in the right place. Strikers tend to get away with more, most of their fouls are committed before the ball gets there, so the ref is not looking. Then they get a foul instead because the defender is trying to recover and fouls back just as the ref is looking.}

Not offended Kingbear...as I said to Mr Germinator, it is a record Kris Boyd should be proud of. However as footballing ability goes, there is no comparison - Mrs E

Shearer I agree was a thug. I did though admire many other aspects of his game for many years. He was a lot more mobile and athletic than Boyd and grafted for his team mates. Before his injury he was IMHO one of the best strikers in the world. Henke was probably booked once or twice in his entire career so saying all strikers tend to get away with it doesn't really excuse or ring true in my comparison. I am a little confused with all due respect Ed in your point. I was originally comparing a fouler with a non-fouler. Henke and Boyd (my point I think). Saying all strikers foul and then bringing Shearer into the equation doesn't excuse foul play by any striker or IMO add anything to the debate Henke V Boyd. {Ed001's Note - I was pointing out that you were just being paranoid, and in my opinion pathetic, to blame the colour of the shirt he wore for getting away with fouls. You can see it in every league in the world, yes even the French and Spanish, where a striker gets away with elbows and backing in. Kevin Davies of Bolton is the most obvious current example.}

Mrs E the end of my last post was aimed at the annonymous poster who questioned my intelligence at a song that was being sung that night. I am not questioning Mr Larssons football ability,as much as it pains me to say but he was a quality player with great ability and IMO he proved that in the worlds top two leagues when he moved on. Mr Boyd moved onto where the money was and who could blame him at his age. He gets paid it whether he performs or not!

Kingbear

Ed 1 thank you for your comment, however pathetic and paranoid I am not. I also disagree on a number of points you have made. Sopot Celt {Ed001's Note - I am sorry, but it is just how I see it. It is not just you, it is not just Celtic supporters, it is not just Old Firm supporters, it is common throughout humanity. In every sport if a decision goes against you, the normal reaction has become one of blame, there always has to be bias rather than it just being a bad decision or a decision you didn't like. By you, I mean people in general, not you personally. The Welsh were the same about a player of their's getting sent off in the recent Rugby World Cup, complaining against a biased decision, even though it wasn't.}

I have to agree with Ed001....as my Dad was always saying 'did the referee give a penalty' 'NO'...'then it wasn't a penalty'. End Of Story {Ed001's Note - my grandad used to say that. Drove me mad as a kid, but now I understand what he was saying. Actually I think that should have gone on the new MMT site, rather than here, that was a bit of a rant!}

No offense taken Ed001. I enjoy being paranoid regarding Celtic FC ( I see it as a birthright for all the sectarianism sh** I had to put up with growing up in the country of my football team, birth and heritage.) As for being pathetic the only thing IMO that is pathetic about me is my bank account...:) {Ed001's Note - now that feeling I know very well!}