Celtic Banter Archive October 08 2011

08 Oct 2011 23:03:58
Just looking through my last recent post about Celtic spine and noticed 11 agree and 0 disagree .Coincidence or fact. When will the penny drop with the fans, I see again today we are giving away lennon t-shirts free with subscriptions of our magazine also how well timed was the Sutton book brought out,. when will the money men at the club release some of their millions and support the club the same way they expect the ordinary fan to part with our hard earned cash. we are the biggest home and away support and yes we pay for that privilege.

Are we being taken for granted now, the way the board has run the club lately gives me the feeling that, feed the fans with anything and they will buy it. The lennon t-shirts for example are they t-shirts they have not been able to sell and POW let the fans think they are getting something for nothing.
The Sutton book , lets get the fans up to the superstore on an International break when things are normally quiet and maybe they spend in store. I know many fans that are up to their eyes in debt just to follow the team ALL OVER THE WORLD and would buy anything Celtic can the same be said for money men. We can parade banners at a minutes notice to support our team and its views. I think we need to know what the board are really doing in the background to get us to the top again,will it be another , Roy Keane, Robbie Keane or Craig Bellamy when it is too late. We were told 9 months ago about the 5 year plan. Not happened yet. They go on about the Celtic family and we throw our money to support it , I think the king of spin John Reid our chairman should show us the plan very soon before he goes. For our support and loyalty we deserve that to be equalled by the people running our club.

I think if you check your facts you will find that rangers take the biggest support to away games and no i am not talking about manchester but the spl

08 Oct 2011 19:16:17
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08 Oct 2011 15:10:23
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Tim ruled out mate even if he was a burd i like my women to have something between their Ears not just their Legs or Shoulders lol and by tims post he is certainly lacking in the Grey Matter lol

*FFS Tony, that's all we need to know about you, you like your burds to have something between their legs! Each to their own I suppose, lol......Miko

I'm with Tony on this one miko. I like women to have something between their legs aswell (my d*ck) sorry about the language Ed. Lol.
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Alright miko, gers fan here but read what tony posted and while thinking about it thought of an annagram for him. y not. says it it all does it not mate. enjoy the chase.

08 Oct 2011 13:39:37
I agree with poster earlier who said keep the faith, defeats at Ibrox and tynecastle are not end of the season, St Johnstone result was the bad one. We need to really get behind Lennon and the team, get our injured players back and then go on a long undefeated run.
I liked reading parts of Sutton's book in which he said they had just lost 5-1 at Ibrox and big amoruso was gloating, Sutton passed and said "see you in February" (next old firm game) well Sutton ran amoruso ragged and Celtic won. Come December that is what we have to do.
We were all Lennon supporters up till a couple of weeks ago, we all know unamed bears are on all the time calling for Lenny to go.In Lennon We Trust while he is our Celtic manager. Timalloy

What are you on about? Calling for Lennon to go? The Rangers fans don't want him to go anywhere...

Lemmon Must Stay {Ed007's Note - Did you read the post? There is no mention of Tim calling for NL to go so what are you on about?}

08 Oct 2011 11:08:42
Tony was it something I said? LOL
Timalloy (ps I would rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy)


Tim even with a frontal lobotomy ( note the correct spelling of the word Lobotomy lol) that still leaves my IQ four times higher than yours


Tony

Ha ha Tony, "brave" when you thought I would not be back on (Mrs T out shopping) I would call you stupid but that would be insulting all the poor stupid people of this world LOL Timalloy

08 Oct 2011 09:20:39
if rangers get the worst case scenario from their tax crisis has anybody stopped to think how this will affect us , by this i mean the board dont back the manager enough when we have to win a two horse race so with no rangers they dont have to spend spend at all , or am i being over cynical

I posted something similar a while ago..that they won't do anything until they see outsome of this case ! I'm not sure if rangers can actullat appeal again after november ?! Tax seems to be a law unto itself....

If rangers win the case against the hmrc where will that leave celtic, we,ve had pennies to spend for the last three seasons and a squad thats thinner than the the smokescreen that,s your spending policy.and as i believe we still leave you in our wake lads. enjoy the chase.

08 Oct 2011 02:42:44
so lots of various calls out there, ranging from, sack lennon to pressure the board to spend more money. But what will fix the issues our club are facing right now.
There has never been a lack of rhetoric from the club about wanting to succeed, lennon being the prime example of that "brining back the thunder" etc. But what does this really mean?

Well there hasnt really been a lack of activity on the spending front, we are a club that will spend within its means and no more unless theres a deal we simply cannot refuse ( although you could argue there has been lots of those missed due to big dan getting a regular game!!).

So what do we do to sort this slump?. AS mentioned more money, where does this come from? desmond? the fans? other investment / sponsorship? well none of these are really viable we are not in the market to spend our way to success like you have to admit we done under the MON days! That said there has to come a time where the board realise you have to speculate to accumulate and take the hit for long term gain. We cleared the debt back then and we could do it again surley ?? albeit we had the CL monies back then also.

Onto sacking lennon. Where does that put us? back to square one. A new manager, who will want new players and will want to adopt a new philosophy to the game and apply new tactics that again could turn to abject failure so very easily.

What next? i hear you all say! invest in youth?. Well yes of course this should be the cornerstone of any sport , but how do we invest in our youth? (and im talking nationally here aswell not just celtic on this bit) Less and less of our youngsters are making the grade, yes there are the exceptions and yes we are hindered by our size of population. But there is a deeper issue with this. There is not the right attitude in this country ( in general) in our youth, more and more kids are coming through the ranks thinking they have it made, and to be fair they do have it made in terms of the relativley easy job and decent money. But wheres the aptitude to progress themselves to the next level. Wheres the determination to inprove to be better than you are? this comes from the quality of 1. coaching. 2. facilites. 3.standard of others that you play and learn with. there are other factors too but i dont want to bore you more. Getting factors 1 and 2 right leads to an improvement in 3. There is a severe lack of general knowledge of high end sport in this country at youth level. We are still stuck in the put your foot in and dont lose at any costs mentality all the way through our game.

We dont breed winners and technicians of the game this way. Look back to the sixties the idea of put the foot in was there but the philosophy across the board was get the ball and play, make the ball do the work, they are gonna put the foot in lets not let them. This islost especially at youth level, Watch at your local park sometime, the kids have no idea what to do except give the ball to wee davies boy on the wing and hope the fact hes a wee bit better than everyone else and skins 11 guys and scores/

Anyways im going off on my original point lets see if i can remember. Ahh yess improving celtics woes. I see this as a bit of a toughie. AS always we need all our fans cheering, none of this humphing and hawing at every mistage and an air of nervous tension in the support a positive mental attitude superimposes itself onto others sometimes. In addition, i feel the club is lacking a general bout of confidence and this is not helped by the last point and it is the job of the management to keep this up which for the meantime they are failing to do on a consistant basis.

Furthermore i feel the squad is trying to do too much at times, they are trying too hard when on the ball. Next time you are playing a sport, work yourself up into a slight panic or bout of anger or frustration and see how well you play! bet its nowhere near your best. This comes with being able to deal with pressure and there is not much more pressure than playing for one of the old firm. This leads me neatly back to investment in the squad. If our players are suffering because of these reasons then it is suffice to ssay that they are not fit for the purpose. Do we need wholesale changes? no, but we need the right ones.

We need an arrogance without being cocky, we need a confidence without being egotistical. we need a realism that we simply cannot just turn up at the likes of hearts and get a result we have to work. I trust this is in hand via Mr Lennon and co if it doesnt change by the end of the year then i can see his position becoming hard to keep. We need a change in attitude accross the board from fans to board level. We need realism to set in and realise what we are a football club prided on scoring more goals than the opposition, of trying to play a neat and entertaining brand of football without fear of failure as if we do fail then we should come back stronger.

Ok gonna stop now im not even sure if ive put down what i meant, see these tangents!! god i even do my own head in. sorry for the long post hope it makes sense.

Evinguu

Great post Evinguu, this team have a real character flaw in thinking they just have to turn up. Hearts, Rangers (second half) Inverness, M'well, Hamilton, last season. They just don't seem to get that you have to battle first.
I am afraid to say i think some of this comes from Lenny telling them they are world class. I am all for building confidence, but i think he has to stop blowing smoke up their arses, for want of a better phrase. Hard work is the only thing that will get us through this, and that is expected from every Celtic team.
HAIL HAIL
paddybhoy

07 Oct 2011 23:56:38
ED a don't care what u say, Nel Lennon is not the man to very us forward, we r totally cack, honestly, Celtic r not a team to be reckoned with, things need to change and quickly, starting with Lennon!!! {Ed007's Note - When did I ask people to care what I say? I am not that insecure, just like I don't actually care what you say, I support CFC, their manager (whoever it is at the time), any player that pulls on that famous jersey (whether I rate them or not) through good times and bad. Just one question, what does very forward mean? Isn't that being pushy chatting up women?}