Celtic Banter Archive May 08 2015

 

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08 May 2015 21:20:51
I see our head scout Moss is been head -hunted by Leeds .
Will he be a big loss to Celtic?,

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08 May 2015 21:56:37
I think we need to overhaul scouting system.

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08 May 2015 22:22:29
I think the scouting system is alright , but we need someone to scout strikers or who can spot a striker IMO this is the department that let's us down

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09 May 2015 18:12:01
I wouldn't think any scouting system would be wrong , however something isn't right if we keep signing strikers who can't do a job for us . Maybe some of the strikers may have been ok , like Daryl Murhy , currently the top scorer in England , maybe he was used correctly when with us . Is Deila more interested in putting his own man in place and maybe that is why Moss is looking elsewhere . Is it likely Moss is been head-hunted or is he asked his agent to get him another club .

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08 May 2015 19:17:33
Away kit is pencilled in for release on 1st July.Date could be altered slightly but NB deal starts that day.

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08 May 2015 17:41:24
ED007 do you or anybody else know the situation with Patrick Bamford on loan at Middlesbrough, I read he was out of contract, but then I heard on radio he was still contracted to Chelsea, I know it would be a big ask for Celtic to even contemplate signing him, but if we could attempt to come near his wage demands, I think he would be a great signing for us.

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{Ed007's Note - Bamford's Chelsea contract runs until 2017 bud, he'll go back on loan to Middlesbrough if they get promoted or if they fail it'll probably be to another EPL club.}

08 May 2015 16:07:26
Queen Of The South 12/1 to win play offs. Worth a punt on an outside bet

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08 May 2015 18:19:02
Gotta be worth a punt mate,best footballing side in the division for me.Convinced they will win tomorrow.

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08 May 2015 21:57:58
Your right Green Jhedi. I think price is very good value for £ and well worth sticking £10 on

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08 May 2015 13:24:17
Good luck to all the Bhoys on Saturday against the sheep. I'll be watching live from Las Vegas! Get in there. Hail Hail

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{Ed007's Note - It's alright for some! Have a great holiday STB.}

08 May 2015 13:53:10
With another 5 years of the tories in power to look forward to, I wish I could go to Las Vegas, Permanently.

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08 May 2015 14:57:46
Lol mate congrats to the SNP going to need a couple more pandas now lol

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08 May 2015 15:06:54
55% of the people of Scotland are to blame for the Scottish people having to suffer 5 more years of austerity. I would have thought that every Scottish person only had to see the lips of an English Politican move to know they are either telling lies or promising lies.

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{Ed007's Note - I can't get my head round why there has been such a massive move towards the SNP since September, did hundreds of thousands of people change their mind after seeing through the Tory/Lab lies? Is there any posters out there that voted 'No' in September and then voted SNP yesterday that is willing to explain why? I promise you won't get abuse for voting 'No', I'm really just curious as to what's happened to make you change your mind.}

08 May 2015 15:35:49
Think because of the fptp voting ssnp only got 49% of the vote in the election but because of the fptp voting system they got 95% of the seats,so there was'nt that much difference from the referendum

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{Ed007's Note - Things like that just show that it's a carve-up before we've even started. I was trying to work it out for myself earlier about all the % etc but I couldn't get my head round it, my wee brain is too tired to work today :)

08 May 2015 15:50:56
I know of several people who voted SNP, but voted 'No' in the referendum and funnily enough they are all Sevconians.

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{Ed007's Note - That's what I can't understand, Jim, maybe there's been a mass awakening of people who only now can see the mistake we made in September. Maybe they - the 'No' voters - realised that the majority of the English really couldn't give a to$$ about them after all. If England held a referendum to get rid of Scotland it would be a landslide, the further south you go the lower their opinion of us is.}

08 May 2015 16:28:10
Sack the Board the game is on Sunday 14;30 M8 and have a great time in Vegas

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08 May 2015 16:43:39
I voted no in the referendum as I was never convinced we would be better off as an independent nation. That's not saying we could not be an independent country but I just felt we were better off within the UK. I voted SNP yesterday as labour and Tory are a wasted vote in Scotland so I felt at least there would be a voice in Westminster trying to stand up for Scotland if the SNP got more mp's

edg

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{Ed007's Note - See mate that doesn't make any sense to me, I respect your opinion and you're entitled to vote how you want but imo if we had our own independent parliament we wouldn't need to have a voice and be fighting against Tories in Westminster. Thanks for answering by they way.}

08 May 2015 16:45:49
ED007 I think the Scottish people realised they had lost a great opportunity at the referendum and voted SNP to voice their opinions on all the gloating from Cameron and his cronies, the thugs who targeted meetings in Glasgow at the referendum ( Sevco/orange order ragtags) could not be out all over the country so people were free to vote without intimidation, once again it also showed that Scotland voted the complete opposite of England, but once again we have a government, NOBODY in scotland wants. I blame a weak Miliband who patently was not up to the job enstowed upon him, I blame Clegg for abandoning all the Liberal ideals just so he could cling on to a bit of power, but the voters remembered this and his party has paid the price, I blame all the people who never bothered to vote, their vote could have made a difference, and I blame all the English voters who voted tory, are they really that stupid. Only a couple of saving graces came out of last night, with the SNP doing so strongly, I believe they will be able to fight off the planned swingeing cuts to our benefit system that Cameron has planned, more power to Nicola Sturgeon, and the other saving grace, disappointed as I am over the result, I made a few bob backing the SNP

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08 May 2015 17:00:07
Hi ed , was takin to my best mate this morning and as he's a no voter and labour man into The bargain I asked him the same question as to why the sudden change and why these NEW SNP supporters didn't stand up and be counted in referendum so we could be our own people voting for our own things , his reply was (, it was a different matter ) I give up really I do , just shows that it really had nothing to do with politics after all , but hey one day they might just wake up and realise the shite were actually in ,

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{Ed007's Note - While I was watching things unfold on TV last night I wondered if there's people out there who regret voting 'No' and if there are would they admit it?}

08 May 2015 17:31:13
It's probably the fact that a lot of voters don't want independence, but like Nicola Sturgeon, and the policies of the SNP.
I think the voters in Scotland maybe thought that Labour would win a lot more seats in England, and that the SNP would maybe have a lot more influence on a Labour government.
The tories may be in power for a long time, as if Labour move closer to the SNP, the people in England won't vote for them, and if they move closer to the tories in England, then Scotland won't vote for them.
They seem to be between a rock and a hard place.

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{Ed007's Note - I think the Labour party is finished now, Gerry, I can't see how they can ever really come back from this and like you say mate, the Tories are going to be in power for a while now and that's never been a good thing for Scotland.

08 May 2015 18:02:18
The voters get the representatives they deserve . For example for two long the Scottish people voted Labour Candidates into Westminster . Labour Party in Scotland got cocky and realised that any idiot would win and so the standard of representation over the years got weaker and weaker . Suddenly the SNP seized the opportunity and wiped the floor with Labour . SNP weren't ready for the landslide and even though they hadn't got good candidates all in place and so in the voters stampede to cleanse itself of Labour we have candidates like that we lassie from Paisley elected . I would reckon that she wasn't voted in on her merits rather the hatred of her Labour incumbent opponent .

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08 May 2015 18:28:39
I know a few people who voted no but voted SNP yesterday Ed. The general consensus was that they felt there is a need for change throughout the entire UK so voting in the SNP yesterday would allow them to cause a stir and boot some baws without the uncertainties of Independence. Personally, I can't see them having the impact some think they will but I certainly hope so.

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{Ed007's Note - (yes)

08 May 2015 18:55:20
The good thing for the Yes voters is that I now think it is inevitable that there will be another referendum by 2020 and it may swing towards a yes vote for 2 reasons. One is that the Tories are in power again which will push a lot of people over to the yes side because as ed says the Tories will be in power for a long time now due to the fact Labour are now defunct. The second reason is Cameron is going to have a referendum to pull out of Europe and if that turns out to be a yes then I think Scotland would vote to be independent but within Europe.

edg

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{Ed007's Note - I hope you're right mate.}

08 May 2015 19:03:26
Ed I think there were 1.6 mil snp votes last night. It was 1.8 in the referendum. Unless I'm mistaken. So it's just as some else said its first past the post. Look at ukip with 360 3rd places and 120 2nd places. And only one seat. I voted no In the ref because I am extremely cautious by nature there was to much to loose and it wasn't just a Timalloy tip it was real life. Last night with a massive heavy heart I didn't vote for the first Time ever. Simply because I don't believe in spending your way out of trouble as was proposed by lab and snp. And I don't believe in child benefit cuts from those who need it most to accommodate the high end tax cuts that is the Tory way. I think to say the lab party is finished is a knee jerk reaction for one reason. As long as we are part of the Union lab is the only real alternative to the Torys. The snp deserve immense credit but 56 seats can't challenge 330 no matter what they say. So if labour can get there house in order and back in touch with there core vote lab will be back. And that ain't going to happen with nice guy leaders like ed. And guys like Jim Murphy leading up here. I have never stuck to one party I take every election as it comes but right now I have no faith in any of them.

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{Ed007's Note - Thanks for those numbers, Gary. The way I see it is the only way Labour can get back into power is with a majority of the Scottish votes and I just don't see that happening any time soon. I think in future it will be a closer battle in Scotland between SNP and Labour but as long as England vote Tory I reckon it'll be a Tory government. The SNP/Labour fight gives them a clear run at it as we seen last night, and the queer thing is a lot of those people down south voted Tory because they didn't want a Labour/SNP coalition running England, they don't want an outside country having a say in their affairs.
When I said the Labour party was finished I meant as it stands today, it needs major changes at the heart of party before it can even be seen as any kind of force or attempt to get back into the Scottish people's trust. I know that I'll never vote Labour again and a few of my friends and family have said the same since September.}

08 May 2015 19:07:54
IMO Ed every Scot voted tactically that's why the night we have 56 SNP's the lib dem's up here got a doing for siding with the tories! People here bought into the coalition Labour/SNP ticket not wanting Labour either but realising that in a "pairing" they would get almost the best of both worlds minus the tories

Just seen a senior Lab contributor say "never again will we go to far left" like Milliband and he only got in because of the trade union vote!

As you type the English would vote in a landslide to disassociate with the Scots and could not Stand the idea of Scot's playing a role down south given the fact they already think we are better off up here via tuition fees , prescriptions etc. and voted Tory!

Again agree Labour no real teeth now as the next pick will sook up to the powerful trade unions and will always be seen as to far left!

13 BILLION of welfare cuts!! FFS where is that going to come from considering the roles foodbanks play now! My guess they will tax DLA/PIP and make it means tested and the most vulnerable in society will suffer sadly the most

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08 May 2015 19:14:31
1.45 million voted for SNP which is a out the same as the Yes vote, the others were spread over another 7 parties including Labour. Most Yes voters just naturally voted for the nationalist Party I suppose.

I'm really disappointed in the result and expect to be busy in my work over the next few years anyway. Folk gambled with their hoping for a Labour Government which is downright weird - if you wanted a Labour govt then vote Labour.

Tories have been in power the past 5 years in Westminster and SNP the last 8 years and Holyrood, this rise in foodbanks has happened on their watch - not Labour.

Labour have faults but they delivered The NHS, welfare state and devolution. They are also still the party if the working people and trade unions. Their manifesto was radical and the most left wing it's been in a while, not that anyone noticed.

SNP are in no way shape or form strong enough for Westminster and well in the minority compared to Tory and Labour, I think this will strengthen the Unions case in the next few years as folk will lose faith in SNP.

This is what we have to look forward to shortly :-

One of the most controversial parts of the Conservative manifesto was to cut benefits for the working age poor by £12 bn over the next three years. But during the campaign they only said where £2 bn of these savings would come from. That leaves £10 bn still to find. Some experts think the only way they can close that gap is by means testing child benefit – with millions of families losing out.

Along with Universal Credit and the bedroom tax (something Labour would of got rid of). We don't pay bedroom tax in Scotland - it's mitigated this year but unlikely to be next year and evictions will start as the Tories intended.

We are 100% in a worst position than the last 5 years now and miles of independence.

So cheers to anyone who gambled with societies most vulnerable because the referendum didn't go your way.

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08 May 2015 19:14:44
I'm all for heading down to London for a real life "V for Vendetta ",Ed do you have any spare masks that's in your avatar pic?

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{Ed007's Note - (yes)

08 May 2015 19:15:46
Very rarely agree with you 02 but your right for a TWENTY year old to represent Paisley and oust a major player in the shadow cabinet FFS

Nothing to do with what she said about us (& that was bad) but what experience of life in itself does she have?

Paisley has the worst/poorest scheme in Scotland (FACT) and now an utter novice as an MP beggars belief!

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{Ed007's Note - I thought Labour were certainties for that seat for the exact reasons you mentioned, she'll be a laughing stock to all those Etonian dinosaurs in Westmonster. Not that I'm saying it's right or I agree but they will have no respect for a 20 yr old Scottish woman, she doesn't tick a single box of what they deem as acceptable in their stuffy old boy's club.}

08 May 2015 20:07:41
I think they will get scottish votes back for a few reasons. English voted Tory because they didn't want snp. Scottish voters will realise that only labour can defeat the torys. So they will have to go back from the snp to lab. Also a lot of people have jumped ship from labour because they are now branded the red torys. They need to get there working class core values back and they will get some core voters back both here and in England. They need just need a bit of reflection time and strong leaders. Also the torys are in for a difficult 5 years it's very hard to govern with a small minority. Things like by elections, defections and in fighting/ hostility towards there leader especially with the whole in out euro thing. A similar scenario happened with john major in his 92/97 term that contributed to the labour land slide of 97. This is why I'm glad I take every election as it comes I would never get to dis heartened by the result. My dad has been snp all his days but that was never forced down my throat a lot of people I know feel like it's a be trail on there parents if the don't vote labour.

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08 May 2015 20:08:08
The English are so arrogant, they don't seem to want Europe having any say in their affairs, and they moan like mad at the thought of Scottish MP'S having a voice at Westminster, but they don't see the irony that the tories are in government for the next 5 years despite virtually all their MP'S being from England. They have virtually no MP'S in Scotland, Wales, or Northern Ireland.
I personally don't think Cameron will allow another referendum in Scotland anytime soon, he's got his majority now, so he will be able to do what he wants, and there is no way he'll want to go down in history being the Prime minister who was responsible for breaking up the UK

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08 May 2015 20:30:13
Not for the first time find Mrs E saying much of the same thing (y)

A suppose Mrs E it's just heads or tails whether its child benefit or DLA/PIP that gets a "going over" maybe both Eh? just to "spread it around a bit"!

Ed a had contented myself that the SNP had put her up as a "write-off" in terms of it being an insurmountable seat mate am still numb that she got in! Not being sexist here but somebody might need to show her HOW to put a tick in the box given the fact she has not even finished her degree yet!

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08 May 2015 20:44:22
The absolute irony is Labour are not and never have been red Tories. Folk used this as an excuse not to vote them as a 2 finger salute for the referendum and gave us the real blue Tories! SNP are seemingly having a party tonight, celebrating 5 more years of austerity cuts under a Tory govt - what the hell are they celebrating?

That's your SNP. Always have been and always will be the tartan Tories.

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08 May 2015 21:27:15
Mrs e just playing devils advocate here but is it not the case that when tony Blair came into power in 97 the government was running at a surplus every year. And by 2001 that was turned into a deficit that got worse year on year until 2010 when the con dems took power. Now labour continue to blame the financial crisis of 2008. I may be wrong but from what I can see labour led us into a black hole that the torys are trying to get the countty out of. I don't agree how they are doing it. Tax breaks for the rich. Cutting the 50 p rate to 40 and cutting child benefit for those who need it most. But labour have to take responsibility for there actions as well.

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08 May 2015 22:54:45
Gary I'm no economist and not going to pretend to be

http://goo.gl/NMFbz8

Blair should of been arrested for the Iraq war to be honest.

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09 May 2015 00:53:46
mrs e,afew or many months ago ,snp tried to introduce free milk or breakfasts for primary one school kids,labour voted against it ,explain please if you think labour is not more right wing than snp,also for all you snp supporters why do you want to be in europe,just what does the scottish NATIONAL party mean,i voted snp yesterday,but I think scotland and ireland should leave the eoro gravy train

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09 May 2015 08:21:37
Labour don't have the power to vote against it, SNP have a majority Holyrood Govt and it's a devolved issue.

Not saying a Labour MSP never spoke out against it, he/she may well of done. The Scottish Govt did what they do best and delegated the issue and said it was a local Council matter.

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09 May 2015 08:27:32
The deficit under Labour, prior to the financial crisis of 2008, was less than that run by the Tories in the 90's.
There is no doubt that the bailout to the banks and financial sector caused the current deficit levels.

National debt as a % to GDP has been far higher in the past, after both World Wars.

http://goo.gl/jhJVTv

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09 May 2015 18:28:14
The English people voted Tory because the one thing that Milliband couldn't deny was that Labour could only govern with SNP support . To the English voter that was something they couldn't countenance . The English voter , thinking of a Scottish partying moulding their politics and passing laws would be akin to Muslims doing it .
I know that the above is nonsense. , but that is the way the Tories spun it. , they don't care how rubbish it is , but it won the election .

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