Celtic Banter Archive July 08 2016

08 Jul 2016 22:06:04
Anyone agree we have been thoroughly nutered in the last 5yrs?

09 Jul 2016 00:31:06
I said all along that whilst rangers weren't here we would spend as little as humanly possible to scrape by domestically and then start to spend when they came back. I said it from the beginning that's what would happen. So temporarily neutered I'd say but the tubes are retied and were firing on cylinders. How many cylinders we shall see in the next few weeks.

10 Jul 2016 01:04:44
Pedro Celt I think we should remain confident . The vast amount of transfers ( in numbers ) of players hasn't started yet . Basically up to now it's mostly all talk and little actual action . I like you would be happy with two or three more good players in that would make our first eleven stronger, but we will have to wait, they will come, I hope!

08 Jul 2016 15:25:31
@bhoywonder so you guys would be happy to go to millwall on a Monday night would you? How about swansea for a first round cup tie? IMO the idea of Celtic moving leagues is ridiculous and should never happen we are a Scottish club of Irish heritage not FU***NG English. I am a Celtic man till I die couldn't and wouldn't support anyone else but if what you suggest were to happen I don't think I could back a club that would turn its back on its nation of birth for money. Let's face it the comparison between English and Scottish leagues isn't much different just money and fan base (which is cause by the fact they have 10x the people we do) . Honestly I would be embarrassed to call myself a Celt if that happened. I do however think the rest of Scotland would benefit if the Celtic monopoly of titles ended, but IMO that is the only positive that could come out of this. As another poster said I could not stand by and watch this great club become a mediocre mid table ''English team'' like Swansea for instance.

08 Jul 2016 16:10:27
wind your neck in dbhoy, was a question between friends, and if your going to come onto a post and spit your dummy you should read the full post, where does it say that i want a move to england? ( think it says on my post i'd stay in scotland) , read the full post next time before you post a wee temper tantrum.

08 Jul 2016 16:23:09
Yes i'd be happy to go to these places, sounds better than going to the barren wastelands some teams call football stadiums up here. It would cease to be an English League anyway with welsh and scottish teams in it. They say those who can adapt to change are the greatest survivors, you obviously are happy to stick to the same old guff. You can't stop progress mate, changes in the game will happen eventually, borders are only man made lines. i'd follow celtic no matter the league. By your reckoning everyone born in Scotland musnt ever leave, bit of a dodgy stance pal.

08 Jul 2016 16:35:43
you tell um wee man.

08 Jul 2016 17:58:39
Watching pish like Ross county umpteen times a season doesn't make you anymore proud to be a Scotsman
Let's take the show on the road and have a party!

08 Jul 2016 20:19:29
Bhampot, 2022 or there abouts. I'm for it.

08 Jul 2016 21:08:37
Rglen8, defos there will be change, and i think your right, early 2020s, Be it a British league or European league, who knows.

08 Jul 2016 22:21:50
Apologies Bhoywonder my post wasn't towards you personally it was to the conversation in general just used your name as you were the OP.


As for you bhampot (the name suits ;) . ) why would you want to become a mediocre team in a rich boys playground because that's exactly what we would become. No matter what you may think we could/ would not compete with the spending power of the top BPL teams plus it would take years to even get to the premiership anyway so you would be playing league 2? Travelling all the way to the south of England for a midweek league fixture? Why not put the same energy into improving Scottish football as a whole? Would with the other clubs to improve facilities etc. I know it wouldn't be the best idea in terms of business but surely even you cannot like what football has become? We could be showing other teams how to create top academy's for young players and what kind of facilities they should try to get and how to do it. I think this obsession with Europe is getting out of hand. This is all just my opinion and just like yours too means very little what will happen is out of both our hands so I guess we will have to wait and see. Until then let's focus on backing the team to another title in the league we are currently in.

08 Jul 2016 23:13:52
Sorry Dundee bhoy, you speak like we owe the Scottish game something? Why do we? Celtic football clubs position for me is to do whatever is best for Celtic football club . Whether that be in lower leagues of England or staying in Scottish league I don't know . I don't think we have a commitment or duty to anything other than what is best for us
As for the comparison between English and Scottish league not being much different! Really?
Miles apart
Luckily people hopefully far more knowledgeable than us with much more heavier wages than I get for sure will get to make these decisions . You'd hope anyway .

But for me anything that will benefit Celtic will do for me . What makes you think we'd become a mediocre team like Swansea . Besides that's a slur on Swansea who seem like a great club to me . Pretty similar attitude to the numerous English clubs who look down on us .
Be the best we can possibly be is all I want from Celtic.

08 Jul 2016 23:18:23
Dundeebhoy we are a mediocre team in a poor boys playground so I don't see the point? We have a regrettable cash boost this season but not much bud.

08 Jul 2016 23:20:09
Still think we have potential. If I didn't then what's the point!
Hail.

08 Jul 2016 23:28:19
By the way, anyone noticed some of the Celtic fans tweets to summer harl on Twitter . Jesus she's beautiful and I'd leave my partner for her but get a grip . Cringe worthy.

08 Jul 2016 23:44:59
Dundeebhoy, i don't agree we would be a mediocre team, far from it. We would expand big time. Celtic as a brand would be a massive lure for players sponsers and the like. Iv heard all the garbage too many times about improving scottish football, it is a footballing basket case, all our decent youth go where? . yes England. Too many clubs in scotland for the population for a start. Too many games against the same teams. Its as dull as dishwater mate. Like it or not mate, money is where its at, And Celtic are a business. We have to look at developing our club, not scottish football? God knows they sh*t on us for long enough.

09 Jul 2016 00:04:32
Bobbygall67 spot on mate, Celtic and only Celtic is where all our energy should be going. The club will lead us all on our journey where ever that may take us.

09 Jul 2016 02:10:13
Dundeebhoy. Appreciate what your saying about being loyal and local. But u need to see the big picture m8. I'm really sure that the Welsh teams in the EPL are proud of where they are from too. But the riches and benefits that come with playing in England are what it's all about!! Say we go there and after 6/7/8 seasons, however long it takes, a club of our size and support can only take us forward. It's all about progressing m8, only a fantasy now, but can u imagine us signing the top players in the world? Because eventually that is what would happen

{Ed007's Note - By that time the likes of Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City will be in the European super league and taken all the money and best players with them and Celtic fans will want to leave the British league for the Euro league.
As soon as the rules are changed that allows Celtic to join the English league the elite clubs in Europe will leave their leagues and UEFA to go it alone - and Celtic aren't invited.}

09 Jul 2016 11:42:39
i understand what you guys are saying and the logic behind it but surely you can see what has happened to the once ''big clubs'' like villa Leeds etc? Who knows if we would suffer the same fate? As for Scottish football crapping on us we have to remember we have played our part too, the old firm hoovering up Scottish talent to let it sit on the bench because our highly paid under performing foreign players are getting the game time. I bet if the sfa set a minimum 8 Scottish players in the first 11 we would soon see the league become more competitive. The decision is and will not ever be ours to make I just hope we don't go crawling to England begging for some of their money. Because that is essentially what we would be doing. As for my comparison between the national leagues if you strip the multi millions teams receive down south you would soon see it become what Scottish football is. Plus I'm sure if sky gave us a 1billion pound deal killie would be buying top players too. The problem is not the league or the clubs the problem is money.

09 Jul 2016 17:45:41
Surely UEFA will ban all "Elite teams"! and Elite Players from playing in Non Elite teams and National and European Leagues .
Players should be banned for a period such as 5 yrs after playing "elite football"
Remember when Kerry Packer had the "elite criketers" and they were banned .
The ban eventually ended the Packers circus.

08 Jul 2016 13:08:28
I just wanted to praise Peter Lawwell and whoever organised the pre season tour (do not think Rodgers planned it)
Two weeks away training and bonding and getting to know the new manager's ways and playing against the standard of team we could meet in the CL qualifiers was well planned, couple that with our other pre season games against Leicester, Barca, Inter and Wolfsburg and we should be in a better position this season to get past the qualifiers into the group stages.

08 Jul 2016 13:24:18
Agreed, very good call whoever it was. Planning and preparation is vital in a period of change.

08 Jul 2016 13:51:45
It was RD surely?

08 Jul 2016 15:08:25
I've been impressed with the calibre of opposition the club have lined up also. Everybody seems to have upped their game throughout the club and all involved must share the praise!

08 Jul 2016 16:36:27
was thinking along those lines myself Kwaj.

08 Jul 2016 22:13:35
More credit to Rd that won't be given, oh well, maybe longer term people will see the real benefits of rd's tenure in regards youth, being a more modern club etc behind the scenes, and actually realise we won 3 trophies and it really should n could have been 6,with a bunch of players, not signed by him and in some cases not wanted, as well as getting no backing from his board and at times various 'players' and 'fans'. Hopefully Brendan receives more backing from all than Rd got. Hail hail.

09 Jul 2016 10:35:07
Do people actually think it's the manager that organises pre season tours?
He will give a list of what he wants then that's it.
You think he picks these teams and geez them a phone?
You think he books training parks or flights or hotel?

09 Jul 2016 13:13:19
I think he poster actually meant how the previous season is done, funnily enough Rd told lawell he didn't want us over in America etc n low n behold we didn't go, so yes clearly the manager has a say in how the team prepares and I'd like to think the 2 weeks bonding and playing, which anyone should know big jock did, although he did it longer, would b picked by the manager and they probably have an idea as to the types of teams or games we should have. The Barcelona n inter games yeh sure lawell might have saw ££££'s but i'd say the manager must e in charge of preseason, and it was arranged while Rd was here and lawell had planned for him to be in charge this season, as confirmed by ed007. Hail hail.

08 Jul 2016 11:52:48
For anybody who is not a season ticket. holder and who is in the Costa del sol, the ticket office for the Lincoln game, home end is open today at 5 pm, Looks like you have to purchase personally, and maybe restricted o 2 per person. The Celtic allocation is already gone, that's what they are telling me here in Gibraltar.

08 Jul 2016 12:30:16
Cheers Malika much obliged.

08 Jul 2016 09:48:26
Good morning Fellow posters and Eds, Had a few of the troops over last night and as per after a few beverages the conversation turns to the hoops, usual stuff ( brendan, defenders etc, ) Then a question popped up which made me think, The question was this, If celtic were invited to play in the english leagues, but had to start at the bottom (league 2) , and work our way up, no europe for a few yrs etc. Would the board and fans accept the proposal or reject it and stay in scotland? . I said i'd stay but tbh, i had had a few rastafairian old holburn ciggies in me at the time, would like to hear what fellow posters and Eds would think, answers on a postcard plz,

08 Jul 2016 10:27:17
Join the bottom league - no danger!

08 Jul 2016 10:34:25
I would personally take them up on the invite if it ever were to be offered. i'd predict it would need a solid 5yr plan to get to the premiership. i'd be more than happy to go that time without europe or cup success. If its for the future security of the club and a way to get to premiership i would take it. However my concern is the future of the premiership itself, which in my view surely has to implode on itself with the amount of money and debt flung about there. Every dog has its day, and i suspect people will soon tire of the epl and move the spotlight elsewhere. So in my opinion it would be a dangerous gamble, but sometimes you just have to take a leap of faith. Hypothetically of course.

08 Jul 2016 10:43:13
No . the main reason being . the board won't spend in a one horse league so what makes anybody think they would out spend or equal the big spenders in epl. I could see us stuck in the championship for an eternity with the board hoping for for playoffs places . and if we did get epl mid table would suffice for them . our only hope would be a buyout by a billionaire . (but we have a couple of them already) . and even then would fans be content getting g to the percirved promised land and possibly never winning a trophy for 20 _30 years or hoping to finish 4th . I also think there would be trouble every away game as with our irish leanings (and our pro ira choiresters) we would be public enemy no1. or am I too cynical.

08 Jul 2016 10:46:00
Go in a heartbeat.

08 Jul 2016 11:05:56
Go. Yes it would take time to get through the leagues and we'd miss European football for a while.
But we'd be playing new opposition anD not the same teams 4 times a year.
I also do think we'd work out way through as other club is well run and with a stadium our size and fan Base.

08 Jul 2016 11:28:01
Nope I would not go Reason for it is this if we started at the bottom how many of the current squad do you think we would have? Not many I think and the manager to financially we would not be that much better than what we are just now perhaps English 1st division we would be equal so no not from Division 2 perhaps the championship then we could maybe keep most of the squad get more money from being in that league and if we are lucky 2to 3 years on be in the premiership and no stopping us then from atleast getting to the champions league.

08 Jul 2016 11:43:54
I would take the invite in a minute! Breeze through league 2 and 1 then get the money from the championship and get through that to! Be in the EPL within 4 years! I would bite there hands off for that! Yes it's a few years in the lower leagues but the rewards more than make up for it! Can't ever see it happening to be honest! Far to many obstacles in the way!

08 Jul 2016 21:47:07
It's all a wee fish finger just now. Don't get too distracted.

10 Jul 2016 01:16:54
I would like us to play somewhere where we would be financially as well off as the average European club . I would prefer that not to be in England as I just couldn't stand losing to an English team or listening to the patronising comments of English Commentators . I know this is selfish reasoning, but it's mine and I wouldn't hold the powers that be to it .
Maybe if we could maintain our weekend slot in Scotland and play 30 odd games mid week in the wealthier climate . Scotland and it's football has its problems but to leave Scottish football would mean we might be losing too much.

08 Jul 2016 08:49:58
Hi guys, I work on a service desk and in the thick of the new season I will start working saturdays, I was talking with my colleague (also a tim. ) And we were saying about celtic tv, after he stated we wouldn't get the footage till later that night it left me thinking, is it worth it? Can people reply and let me know what they think of it?
Would be appreciated :)

HH
Marc.

08 Jul 2016 10:57:20
If your at work and don't know the score it's great as I think it's only an hour after he game the rerun comes on.

08 Jul 2016 11:37:52
aw really? that could be decent because it'll be 12 hour day shifts lol.

08 Jul 2016 02:45:01
If Commons goes and we do not sign Mulgrew or Torres then the only outfield player over 30 will be Scott Brown.
With a player like Duffy this will surely be one of the youngest Celtic squads ever.
Only Brown and Lusnig over 25 of the outfield players we could really push on and build a great team.