Celtic Banter Archive January 08 2020

 

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08 Jan 2020 20:46:00
Come on villa! 😂🏆 was good to here Lennon saying a few I’m in the next few days. but the question is will they be first team players or yet more 2 million quid squad players? We will soon find out folks how much our club really want the 10? 🍀🏆🏆😂.

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09 Jan 2020 07:25:06
And you believe him.

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09 Jan 2020 09:16:02
What does it matter if they cost 2 million.
Our best signings of last window cost under 2 million
El hammed 1.6
Frimpong 350000

As long as they are the right players then price doesn't matter.

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09 Jan 2020 09:57:47
Exactly Kev, let's not get hung up on the price of a player. HH.

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09 Jan 2020 12:51:18
Our best signings were Forster and Elyounoussi. Neither of which will be available for 2m.

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09 Jan 2020 13:34:06
Elyounoussi has been no where near our best signing. As forster yes he has but we haven't bought him or Ely in that matter.

So for our signing that we've bought I stand by that our best have both been under 2 million.

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{Ed007's Note - I'd have to take Jullien is a better signing than Elhamed simply because Rogic has been fit more often than him so far and I give him pelters about it.
You can't say Elhamed has been worth the money IF he's going to be another sicknote.}

09 Jan 2020 14:49:23
For me how he slotted in and looked like hed been there for years then how we've looked weaker without him ed.
Jullien still looks like he's getting used to the physical side of the scottish game and still gets his feathers ruffled by it for me ed but he's definitely getting better every game.

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{Ed007's Note - Fingers crossed Elhamed gets fit and gets a run in the team to prove his worth.}

09 Jan 2020 22:49:18
Why would they be squad players at 2 million.
Our best signing of the last window was el hammed under 2 million.
Frimpong under a million.

What the price is isn't bloody important. Getting the right player is.

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10 Jan 2020 11:23:52
Sinclair stopped playing under Rodgers don't forget that but as usual lennon fault.
Try positivity is that to much to add lads I believe we will come back stronger as every player will be up to speed.

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08 Jan 2020 18:32:34
Hopefully we bring in a striker who will hit the ground running. We could play Eddie coming in from the left and the 2 would score plenty when playing at a fast tempo.

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08 Jan 2020 21:53:27
Like Ellyonoussi and Edouard were doing in the first 1/ 3 of the season?
Why would you want the best striker in the country played out of position?
Playing on the left comes with defensive duties, that's not his game.

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09 Jan 2020 00:22:35
All everyone constantly going on about is moving more players out of position 🙄 Play your best players in their strongest position or it's goodbye to 9. A few tweaks to the squad should be enough we don't need anything major. Edouard will stay up top to try drive his price up for the summer transfer window.

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09 Jan 2020 01:39:54
Yes until Ellyonoussi was injured. He was just hitting form and is a loss. When he's on form he's the best player in the League in my opinion.

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08 Jan 2020 15:39:51
In response to Greenclover’s earlier post, I think the tactical change that Celtic is most crying out for is for the majority of the players to show much more aggression and determination than what was on display during the December game with Sevco. This for me means that players like Johnstone and Morgan, although they are very talented young players both should miss out until they toughen up.
I think that Neil Lennon made a mistake by not starting with Nitcham in his line up (I know all the arguments about how this can through other key players out of preferred positions) as he can fight and dig in when required.
I sometimes think that TRIFC players and coaches are more determined to stop 10 IAR than the Celtic players and board are to win it.
Sevco have become stronger defensively since Katic replaced Helander after his recent injury. He’s a player who has aggression and determination in abundance. I didn’t see too much of that spirit on display at Celtic park.

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08 Jan 2020 16:01:15
basic defending cost us a point, julien had 2 headers cleared off line because rangers put a player on the post at corners, rangers 2nd goal came from a corner and katic put it into an empty net because celtic didn't do the basic thing. Kennedy was a defender you would think he would advise these things.

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08 Jan 2020 16:51:34
As well as a striker anď a cb I think a right good combative midfielder is needed wanyama would do if not someone of that ilk. easier said than done.

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08 Jan 2020 17:31:20
We definitely lost both games to them over the last 12 months and were very lucky in the cup final because we were out muscled and out fought in midfield.
If Lennon is going to change his tactics against them then we need to play either a 4-5-1 or a 4-3-3 and match them in the middle of the park and for god sake he needs to get away from this zonal marking at corners and free kicks and get men on the posts.

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08 Jan 2020 17:49:43
Tyson Kennedy yeah was a defender, but he is not a defensive coach, the final say about tactics and positions will ultimately be left for Lenny to decide, why blame the coach when like you said its a basic thing, should the defenders or midfielders not pick that up and sort it out between themselves Broony is our captain, should he not be aware of that danger and get one of the players to do a different job? Our battle was lost in the middle of the park on both occasions, we just got a bit of luck in the cup final.

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08 Jan 2020 19:06:04
There is absolutely no doubting the differing attitudes of both camps and it has to be addressed or there will be massive wailing and gnashing of teeth for a very long time afterwards.
I think there has been a complacency shown by us based on a number of 'hun-skeplings' since 2015 where we went around a dozen unbeaten.
Clearly there has been a shift in preparation, determination and performance, from Sevco since Slippy and McAllister took over, whereas we have failed to adapt and match their aggression and fight.
At present we definitely have far too many small, tippy-tappy types and not enough guile, power and directness to take the initiative.
The worrying thing for me is that I don't think Lennon sees this?

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09 Jan 2020 00:29:24
Only problem with a 4-3-3 is who would be the 3 in the middle? You'd have to go for Ntcham in there with Brown and McGregor, Brown being the deeper of the 3 and Ntcham and McGregor pulling the strings. But we sacrifice having Christie at 10 then as I can't see Lennon dropping Brown although Ntcham, McGregor, Christie would be some midfield 3.

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08 Jan 2020 12:34:11
Sorry if this has been covered. I know Sinky is for the off and Elyounoussi is 'reportedly' available for 9 Mil. Is it possible one out, one in between those two? I would love that for a bit of business.

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08 Jan 2020 13:15:23
Hopefully that is what's planning because if we are thinking about replacing him long term with players like johnstone and morgan then we will be in trouble.

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08 Jan 2020 18:00:00
Kev i agree about Morgan, he just doesn't do it for me at all not once have i been impressed by him, Johnstone on the other hand needs to be given a season to develop before we can truly judge him, yeah he's still extremely lightweight and easy to push off the ball, decisions in the final 3rd will improve with game time, but a year in the gym like KT did will make a massive difference, not everyone was impressed by KT at first or McGregor but they were given time and now look at McGregor, first name on team sheet behind Broony imagine he wasn't given the time and moved on, how red faced would some fans be now? I agree that we do need a Sinky replacement so that the pressure isn't on young Johnstone, but i think patience is always needed with young wingers.

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08 Jan 2020 20:16:57
People seem to think johnstone will be able to just bulk up with gym work. That doesn't always work. he's a total different body shape to the likes of KT and Christie.
Also it would effect the way he plays the game as a nippy wee winger.

I am going to say this right now. Johnstone will NEVER be a main stay in the celtic team. He will NEVER cement a place in the team.
I suspect that within the next season or 2 he will either be farmed out on loan or shipped out altogether.

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08 Jan 2020 20:58:34
Kev hazzard Messi salah all bulked up and even wee Fraser at Bournemouth it is possible but he needs to do the work.

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{Ed007's Note - Messi 😂😂😂 it's not like the HGH didn't help there is it? #drugcheat

08 Jan 2020 21:29:57
Time will tell with Mikey but there is no doubting he has ability and can finish. Dropping the shoulder and ghosting past people can't be taught and he has that and pace. For me I would give him another year at least, he doesn't need to turn into a body builder, a build like Henrik will do😉🍀.

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08 Jan 2020 12:29:07
Lennon today saying we might have to change tactics and system when it comes to playing rangers from now on, personally think it's a needs must now.

Looking too suspect at the back, especially with cross balls so may be 3-5-2 with elhamed in there to bring more solidity.

Imo frimpong would be best at fullback with Taylor given a run on the left, this still provides width and cover and would nulify the threat of there fullbacks getting forward. If we can then pack the midfield this way it would allow us to play through them and play 2 up top to give edouard support.

Unless we sign another striker this month then elyounoussi or Griffiths up top would provide us with more of a threat while being far more balanced in midfield, hopefully they're trying out different tactics and formations this week as we're in dyer need of changing it up.

Thoughts?

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08 Jan 2020 12:40:15
I'm not keen on 3 at the back myself.

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08 Jan 2020 12:48:17
Something different is required. Whether that's a 352 or another formation I don't know. Maybe just the tactics that need to change rather than formation. We went long at Ibrox while pressing them hard and won easily.

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08 Jan 2020 13:17:54
Not 3 at the back for me. They are strong down the wings and that formation plays into their hands.
4-3-3 that can morph into a 4-5-1 is way to go imo.

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08 Jan 2020 13:40:47
Mite sound petty but for me lennon shouldn’t be coming out with this in public! Yes we may need another approach to that particular game but keep that indoors! Shows weakness in my opinion and looks from the outside looking in that we’re letting for me an inferior team get under our skin! Sure a few will disagree lol. just doesn’t look good to me our manager putting that out in public.

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08 Jan 2020 16:04:20
Maybe if Celtic had did the basic thing at a corner and put a player on the post we could have got a point, julien had 2 cleared off line by davis who was the man on the post at corner kicks. Katic had a clear header because ajer just stood like a statue but a player on post would have stopped it.

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08 Jan 2020 17:45:41
Im with u there danny. No need to state the obvious, we can all see they dominated the middle of the park. Weak management from lenny.

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08 Jan 2020 18:49:55
Just felt that sort of talk should be in house Steph! Think we all realise we need to approach it differently, not just tactically but our attitude to. no need to bring it out in public IMO.

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08 Jan 2020 11:33:13
WARNING A Timalloy rant below

As most on here know, I am NOT a fan of Lawwell or our Board, or our majority shareholder Mr Desmond (bring back The bunnet)

Firstly, the bold Pedro, his interference at times on transfers has cost us dearly, prime example being his handling of the John McGinn saga who SHOULD have been our natural replacement for Brown.
Today the rumours are of a Polish striker available cheaper than our other targets, this is classic Lawwell, tease fans with big money signings then go CHEAP, also his dithering is one of his MAJOR FLAWS, I hate sevco and all they stand for, but at least their board identify a player and then ACT QUICKLY, something Pedro never does.

I mention Fergus earlier, imagine if he was still in charge, and the late Paul McBride still around, the bunnet would have put the SFA shysters firmly in their place and Mr McBride would have had them entangled in all sorts of legal issues.
The SFA treat us like second hand people BECAUSE of Lawwell who does not stand up for our club, Celtic Football club.

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08 Jan 2020 12:03:43
You are off your head if you want to bring back the bunnet. In terms of spending Desmond is light years ahead and most of the bunnets spending was done through fan's money.

That is not to say that I am not thankful for what Fergus done for our club.

I have a few issue with Lawwell myself but one thing we can be thankful for is that he won't jeopordise the future of our club by overspending and living beyond or means.

At the time of McGinn's transfer, I thought Lawwell handled the situation well. McGinn was about to enter the last year of his contract and Hibs were asking for a lot of money. At the time most people would have agreed that McGinn would likely have sat on our bench, so why would we pay over the odds for him?

I am sure Lawwell like myself, thought McGinn really wanted to come to Celtic and Petrie does not play ball now, we will sign him on a free in the contract. When it became evident that McGinn was about to move to Villa, we went in and matched the offer but McGinn and Petrie had decided he would be going to Villa.

The main signing that irked me was Stephen Fletcher as we were in desperate need of a striker at the time and we would have been ideal at the precise moment.

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08 Jan 2020 12:08:57
"I am sure Lawwell like myself, thought McGinn really wanted to come to Celtic and Petrie does not play ball now, we will sign him on a free in the contract. "

Should read - I am sure Lawwell like myself, thought McGinn really wanted to come to Celtic and if Petrie does not play ball now, we will sign him on a free in the summer.

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08 Jan 2020 12:13:21
Stop reading and believing newspapers Tim. Reading on here you would think it was the Sevies going for 9 iar and their 11th trophy on the trot, that's down to fools who believe all the hype about The Sevies in the press and online. On the subject of Lawwell he has done an unbelievable job of running our club, as long as he doesn't involve himself in team matters and stick to what he's good at.

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08 Jan 2020 12:23:13
How did Lawwell cost us McGinn when the boy himself said he chose Villaa because they promised him playing time and we didn't, I thought that would have been Rodgers but I guess it must be Lawwell that chooses who plays and who doesn't.
I regards to which players we are going after, the only player the Lennon has mentioned is Spoarer (spelling) and he only said that he is one of a number of targets. The rest of the stories/ rumours is the usual made up press scatter gun approach because they have no idea who we are after but I guess if you want to believe the press then on you go.

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08 Jan 2020 12:47:40
Tim come on be fair mate our club is the best run in the business financially and on the pitch. Mcginn irked me but we don't know the inside story it's only one player we are still racking up the trophies without him. sevco are again spending other people's money and are running at a loss every year and haven't won a major trophy. Maybe you'd like the lying king running your club.

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08 Jan 2020 13:32:52
I'm not a Lawwell fan however under his tenure we have been extremely successful both on and off the pitch. I do agree the McGinn saga was frustrating and at the time I believed Rodgers jumped ship due to the lack of backing. Lennon however has been backed and has managed to waste around 6m on Bolingoli and Taylor.

Stevie if you don't think Sevco are a threat to us this year you are deluded.

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08 Jan 2020 15:07:33
Guys you are all missing my main point. Under Fergus he stood shoulder to shoulder with us Celtic fans and called out the SFA time and time again. Lawwell and Desmond NEVER do.
Pedro knows he needs the SFA to get him a UEFA job when he leaves us and Desmond is just happy trousering dividends from us fans.

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08 Jan 2020 19:29:44
Bubs I've been hearing this "if you don't think Sevco are a threat this year you're deluded" for last 2 seasons, and that's from our own fans. Every transfer window panic sets in, every dropped point panic sets in. A bit of belief in our 10 trophies in a row team wouldn't go amiss. Wouldn't mind as much if the doubters came back at the end of the season and admitted they were wrong buying into the Sevco hype and doubting their own team .

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08 Jan 2020 19:48:22
Stevie I've never bought into their hype however they have a consistency this year that they have never had before. Gerrard has learned from his first season and built a strong, determined squad. Their results in Europe show this along with having the better of NL in the last two derby games.

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08 Jan 2020 19:48:30
Stevie did u watch the last 2 sevco games.

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08 Jan 2020 20:40:19
Bubs of course they were going to get better, they've spent plenty since Gerrard has come in, nobody surely thought we would keep winning titles by 20-30 points. I truly believe we are still a class above them over the course of a season. The last 2 games against them keeps getting brought up by the doubters and how we were dominated by them, we won one and lost one 2-2 over both games, hardly dominated.
Anyway if we fail to win the title this season I will come on here and say i was wrong for doubting the doubters. Hope the doubters will do the same for the believers if we win No9.

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09 Jan 2020 12:31:38
Having just read Joe O'rourkes open letter to to Maxwell at the SFA I've got to say it's an utter embarrassment, the letter I mean. Capitalising random words and spelling mistakes aplenty, this does our cause more harm than good. Nobody will take him or his open letters seriously. This is an area where we excel but, Joe, leave it to our experts in this field.

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08 Jan 2020 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 8th January 2019

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08 Jan 2020 05:48:17
Is this the most dominating team Scotland has ever seen definitely not the best but most dominating .

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08 Jan 2020 11:14:00
It would have to be the Lions surely. Not only did they dominate domestically, they also dominated in Europe.

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08 Jan 2020 11:51:15
Celtic under Jock Stein won, 10 league titles, 8 Scottish Cups, 6 League Cups, 1 European Cup and got to another European Cup final.

Current Team has won 8 league titles, 5 Scottish Cups, 5 League Cups and reached no European finals.

Obviously if you just look at a 3 year period and only consider domestic honors, the current team have dominated more.

By the way I am not detracting from the current teams achievements as the treble treble (and possible quadruple treble) is a phenomenal achievement. As will be 10 in a row.

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