Celtic Banter Archive March 07 2016

 

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07 Mar 2016 23:14:48
You'd like to think that the players will raise their game in the next few weeks in order to force them selves into contention for the Semi against them. My 11, that I'm hoping will be fit and in form when the semi arrives, as I believe that at their best they are our 11 best players, are: gordon, lustig, sviatchenko, mulgrew (experience in this atmosphere could be key) , tierney, brown, bitton, johansen, commons, roberts and griffiths. I also hope RD sticks with 4-3-3 as it allows 2 central midfielders to burst forward in attacks and also provides more cover when defending. On current form this won't be an easy game, plus there is no doubt that they have improved from last season and we have declined. However, man for man we are the far superior team and we have a month to hit peak form. Mon the hoops!

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08 Mar 2016 01:16:10
I wouldn't have Johansen in the team purely down to his stupid off the ball tactics and fouls I could see him being the one red carded. Need all the players to be 100% disciplined as there is bound to be an honest mistake to help them out.

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08 Mar 2016 17:02:05
Mulgrew gets a red card if he plays CB imo, sayin that I think ambrose and boyata would too, so here's hoping jozo is fit.

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08 Mar 2016 17:29:25
Bitton is a suspect red card imp
Not overly aggressive but is prone to a lazy tackle if all is not going well.

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08 Mar 2016 17:50:07
Listen don't forget we are playing a vastly over rated lower division team with a 36 year old permanently tanned but never made it as striker . They have a very inexperienced manager and I don't see a challenge any greater than Sunday against Morton . We were lucky to draw the weakest team left in Cup.,

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07 Mar 2016 21:47:14
The Cup Semi Final against Rangers2012 is an idea opportunity for players to drive themselves harder in training and matches. Not only should this help R D to find a more consistent and form team but also it should help the fans to continue to support and encourage the team as they did yesterday against Morton . The cheers and encourage brought a visible improvement in all the players . If We have that up to and including the Rangers 2012 match we won't be beaten.

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07 Mar 2016 23:17:09
In the world I live in, if your paid to do a job, you do it, if you can't you get effin sacked. You make high paid professionals sound like petulant five year olds. Stop making excuses, At some point somebody at our club has to take responsibility! I don't require a pat on the back to do what I'm paid to do, so if players can't do what's expected, get rid. You really have taken the term apologist to another level. If we don't beat this second tier outfit, everyone involved should be shown the door!

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08 Mar 2016 09:20:26
I'm sure working in the local chippy is very different from being a footballer at a professional football club.

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08 Mar 2016 09:43:34
Spot on chassboy, oldbhoy and rabmac you better watch the local chippy doesn't serve ostrich burgers 🍔 , or you two could be in danger.

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08 Mar 2016 12:00:53
One person used the word Ostrich, then the rest followed suit. So in the spirit of (whomever had the) word of the day toilet paper, may I suggest next weeks word as Lemmings, or if that's too much, plain old sheep.

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08 Mar 2016 17:32:08
No ostrich is far more apt, while sheep and lemmings follow each other no matter what is in front of them, an ostrich knowing what's going on just sticks it's head in the ground, hoping it will all go away, without actually doing anything about the problem.

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08 Mar 2016 17:57:41
Chasabhoy, if you burn the chips it's pretty obvious u r not a good friar and u will be given your cards . Why thousands go to football matches is because football is a game of opinions and one man's opinion is as worthy as the next . One person can think a player was poor and another person an think the same player was brilliant . Both can be right but of course on this forum all Celtic players and manager are usually useless.

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08 Mar 2016 19:14:27
Actually Precious, that is a total myth about Ostriches. By repeating such a falsehood, you are merely perpetuating the myth. Which makes sense, because as you say, sheep and lemmings follow each other no matter what is in front of them, in this case, the truth.

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08 Mar 2016 20:56:11
No mate the only myth being perpetrated on here is that you are only a real fan if you stick your head in the sand and ignore all of Ronnie the trainees failing's, which I can't be bothered listing for the umpteenth time, by comparing him to past managers who were equally tactically inept.

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08 Mar 2016 21:04:09
P. s . When threatened the ostrich will either hide itself by lying flat on the ground and covering it's head with sand, or run away . Source national geographic.

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{Ed007's Note - Anyone with half a brain knows ostriches don't bury their head in the sand. For a start how would they breathe?

"Contrary to popular belief, ostriches do not bury their heads in the sand. The old saw probably originates with one of the bird's defensive behaviors. At the approach of trouble, ostriches will lie low and press their long necks to the ground in an attempt to become less visible. Their plumage blends well with sandy soil and, from a distance, gives the appearance that they have buried their heads in the sand." Source: NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC.

08 Mar 2016 21:10:29
That all came from you.

You brought up ostriches and burying heads in the sand etc. The original post wasn't about any of what you said. You decided to chirp in with that so don't complain when it gets turned back in you.

Some of you are so desperate to post about RD and his/ the teams apparent failings, you don't even care about its relevance to the thread at hand.

And FYI, I can't be bothered with people constantly slating the team/ manager. Say it once. Say it twice even. But we get it. You don't like him (as manager) . You want him gone. We get it. Point made.

Constantly repeating it (And the same tired, often erroneous, arguments) doesn't change anything and It's not helping anyone - certainly not the team.

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08 Mar 2016 21:17:16
Oh no! Precious, dig up, DIG UP!

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08 Mar 2016 21:56:23
Top you don't decide what people comment on, if people want to comment continuously on any subject that's up to them, if you don't like it don't read it . Ostrich is just the nickname most on here have given to people who hide from ronnies failures , my original post was actually about being in agreement with chasaboy that if you don't do your job to the best of your abilities in any walk of life you should be sacked , it should not take a game against a championship team to get the best out of the players, no mention of Ronnie till after your reply .

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08 Mar 2016 22:11:08
Ed I never said the ostrich buried it's head in the sand, I said it covered its head with sand, my Labrador cover's herself in mud at every opportunity but I have never seen her bury herself in it .

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{Ed007's Note - So the term calling people an ostrich is pointless because it's factually incorrect.}

08 Mar 2016 22:27:59
You posted:

"ignore all of Ronnie the trainees failing's, which I can't be bothered listing for the umpteenth time"

I replied:

"I can't be bothered with people constantly slating the team/ manager. "

You (then) posted:

"you don't decide what people comment on, if people want to comment continuously on any subject that's up to them, if you don't like it don't read it"

We can stop now. I'm not even going to mention the ridiculous debate you are now trying to have with ED. You're making a fool of yourself.

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08 Mar 2016 22:43:34
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{Ed007's Note - Try and keep your posts civil instead of resorting to childish name calling.}

08 Mar 2016 22:51:03
Don't know what this new obsession with ostrich's is all about. Just to correct a fact, I work in an intensive care unit, if I was crap at my job people would die and I'd probably go to prison, so I do know a thing or two about taking responsibility! I never once said Celtic players or managers were useless, idid say Its time to stop peddling pathetic excuses if they under perform.

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07 Mar 2016 19:53:52
Who would be your first pick midfield duo (at they're best) :
Biton and Johanson
Or
Brown and kayal
Or
Robson and Hartley
Or
Lambert and burley

I would choose them in reverse order. I went to school with Robson and although he was a blue nose then, himself and Hartley were the drive behind that season.

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07 Mar 2016 20:04:35
Brown and Kayal for me.

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07 Mar 2016 20:06:46
I know it is not on your list but I would take:

Ledley/ Brown and Wanyama.

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07 Mar 2016 20:33:12
Mcstay / collins.

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07 Mar 2016 20:57:17
Lambert and Lennon.

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07 Mar 2016 21:15:36
Brown biton johansen kayal wanyama would never get in any midfield before lambert

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07 Mar 2016 21:19:25
3 man midfield for me - McStay and Murdoch just in front of Wanyama!

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07 Mar 2016 21:22:35
If it had to be a pair that played together I'd go McStay and Collins also!

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{Ed007's Note - Collins played out on the left, McStay's MF enforcer was Peter Grant.}

07 Mar 2016 22:13:25
How could I forget the pointer Ed. I was meaning in the same team. McStay is my fav player of all time! Lambert was good but the Maestro was a level up! They had similar styles but McStay was a genius from 16, Lambert made the most of his career and fair play to him he kept improving, playing at Dortmund really gave him discipline. Paul McStay knocked back going to a couple of top Serie A teams when it was the best league in the world, if he had moved he really could have been world class. Staying with us held him back, he was selfless though! Collins was more ruthless, but he went to a great Monaco team under Tigana and held his own!

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{Ed007's Note - I thought it was CM partnerships, sorry. Both cracking players and McStay is a legend, my favourite ever CFC player, even over Larsson. }

07 Mar 2016 22:23:25
Have to disagree as I would say Wanyama is a much better player than Lambert was. Don't get me wrong I liked Lambert and did rate him.

From all my time watching Celtic the two best centre midfielders I have seen are McStay and Wanyama.

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07 Mar 2016 23:22:05
Would have loved Lubo a few years sooner.

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08 Mar 2016 01:26:18
Not CM but Lubo and Naka behind Griffiths that would be some creativity.

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{Ed007's Note - Imagine Lubo, Naka and Larsson as the 3 behind your striker! Their movement, technique and skill would pull any defence into a dizzy tizz.}

08 Mar 2016 10:17:04
Can't believe some of the players people rate over lambert
The guy won the champions league before signing for us marking zidane out the game.

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08 Mar 2016 10:42:35
Would'nt have Biton and Johannsen any where near talk of best midfield pairings.

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08 Mar 2016 10:45:11
Imagine nakamura Lubo and mcstay behind larsson. Ooft

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08 Mar 2016 11:46:17
mcstay lambert

di cannio lubo Nakamura

. larrson.

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08 Mar 2016 11:58:36
Lambert was a cracking player Kev, if you're playing 2 you have to have a balance. I agree he was better than those other midfielders you listed, but I would just take Wanyama because he is more powerful. For me the best midfielders I've seen in a Celtic jersey that would compliment each other would be Wanyama and McStay. Murdoch is by far the best midfielder that's ever wore the jersey though!

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08 Mar 2016 14:37:30
Aye Ed they three McStay and Victor as your central two Bobo alongside Big Stubbsy, Tam Boyd on the left and Agathe on the right you wouldn't even need a goalie! :-D.

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{Ed007's Note - I never rated Agathe, he really was a poor player and the weak link in MON's team. All he could do was run fast, his decision making and final ball were worse than Forrest.}

08 Mar 2016 15:08:22
Agathe was never the same after that injury @ Tynecastle but lighting fast was his attribute now am picturing it am seeing him on the left rather than the right (y) cannot think of an outstanding RB Hinkel should have been much better IMO.

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{Ed007's Note - I remember Hinkel playing a blinder against Dynamo Moscow and setting up both goals in our 2-0 win. I had high hopes for Mark Wilson but like Hinkel injuries scuppered his chance with us.}

08 Mar 2016 17:08:57
On his day, Mark Wilson was a brilliant (in relative terms) RB. The problem was, as you say, injuries scuppered him. I really liked him and if nothing else, he scored the goal that won THAT game.

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08 Mar 2016 17:33:58
Surely mjallby before bobo? *.

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08 Mar 2016 18:13:18
Can't believe how much some posters live in the past . Imagine if we fielded Lambert and Burley . They would know what to do, their mind would be first class but they wouldn't have the legs or body to do what the mind wants . By far the best partnership from the players listed is Brown with either Biton or Johanson . I would go with Brown and Biton and play Johanson in the middle of three in front of them . Johanson has good mobility and comes back to help the defensive midfield pair when under pressure . We are now entering the serious part of the domestic game and hence we should keep idiocy out of posting.

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08 Mar 2016 22:01:06
The way brown and Johanson are playing , I would take a chance with burley and lambert . P. s. Again oldbhoy YOU don't decide what people post, don't like it move on simple .

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08 Mar 2016 22:26:54
Lambert was pure class and players like wanyama biton brown and players like them were no where near the class of Lambert and Mcstay.

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09 Mar 2016 10:02:23
Brilliant vid. Lambert was always my favourite.

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07 Mar 2016 18:42:08
Guys as you know I have been 1 of Ronnys harshest critics, but I feel this semi final against Sevco could very well save him his job.
A win and any win against them will take his stock to a new level amongst the Celtic fans and as we all know from the past any manager beating rangers is held in high regard.
Yes I know this is no longer the rangers of old, but this is only our view and we won't let them forget. But the world will be watching not because we playing a 2nd tier team but because they think its an old firm game wether we like it or not.
Just watch listen and read the propaganda.

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07 Mar 2016 19:37:53
There's nothing wrong with being a critic Ray as long as you're being constructive, being honest. If I was watching a better product I'd still be on here backing Ronny up, which I did for over a year! I'm not interested in one game but if we start doing ourselves justice over the next 12 games then that's different! It's the perception as much as reality, everything coming out of Celtic is negative, to the point that you are actually saying to yourself - how is this possible?

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07 Mar 2016 19:46:35
The media circus has already started.
Quote:
'this time it means something' as if it wouldn't have meant anything if they could of done something last time!
Quote:
miller 'we have nothing to fear'
Is this the same kenny Miller who did the unthinkable for a 'loyal' foot soldier, by crossing the great Glasgow divide?
Boyd 'a Celtic win would only paper over the cracks'
Is this the same Boyd who could score against us?
The bias in the press is rank rotten to the core.
£500,000 operating loss? New club - same old

Hail hail let's get them pumped!

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07 Mar 2016 19:51:19
Yep mate your right, I have been constructive tho and gave ronny advice but he doesn't listen to me mate lol.
Like it or lump it our football is boring without the old firm game. we all looked forward to them every season and getting a ticket was all that mattered.
I think it will change next season and as I said this could be Ronnys lucky break because without doubt the crowds will go up next season if he fortunate enough to still be there.

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07 Mar 2016 19:55:04
Let's put this into perspective! We are playing a championship club in the semi final of the Scottish cup! If win does that mean everything is rosy again! The fact of the matter is this result does not turn our season round! The performances both domestic and in Europe have been embarrassing and a win against a championship club will not mask this! Our club is in decline and needs a change from top to bottom.

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07 Mar 2016 21:28:56
Those who have not wanted R D from almost the outset are not going to see sense no matter what happens . Although if we go on a wee run cumulating with victory over Rangers 2012, they will go into hiding, disappear off our forum pages and give us all head peace .

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07 Mar 2016 22:39:17
I don't think a win over a lower league team will have any relevance on whether RD remains the manager next season or not. Similarly nothing that is written here will have any influence. Let's hope we beat the new team comfortably but it is hardly our biggest game is it. We need to focus on the league games coming up, winning the league has to be the priority. I couldn't care less if we never play the new rangers but it looks like we will next season, it won't make the football any more exciting though that will be down to the players and the management.

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07 Mar 2016 22:39:47
The only trouble with the draw is we are on a hiding to nothing, win and we should do as we have the most expensive squad in Scotland and are top of the prem. Lose or they go close and it will be a win for them as they are just making their way through the leagues and "it's only preparation for next years assault". All their big talk will be brushed aside, let's hope our players keep their talk til after the game.

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08 Mar 2016 01:37:36
Hearts were miles ahead of them last season and we've knocked them out the cup twice last season and once this season. Remember it is only Sevco we're playing they was lucky against Killie and they played Dundee after we worn them out. Their signings was all a bunch of journeyman that look okay against part time opposition. Could anyone see them drawing against the likes of Ajax or Fernabache right now? I couldn't. Keep the faith.

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08 Mar 2016 06:50:52
After you worn them out? Hahahaha Dundee rested there best players to focus on the cup game.

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08 Mar 2016 12:08:53
They skelped a fresh Dundee team to be fair.

But so they should. They have a budget that dwarves Dundee's.

At the end of the day, it's anothe cup tie against lower league opposition. We should be grateful. I'd rather them than ICT.

In many ways, like most (domestic) games involving us, its about how we play. If we play to our capabilities, it's no contest. If we turn up in wrong frame of mind, and they to a man play as out of their skin, then there is a possibility of an upset. If that does happen, and I stress the word if (I don't think it will) , then it'll simply go down with the St Mirren, ICT, Ross County results: a Semi final we should have won but didn't.

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08 Mar 2016 18:19:15
They had a handful of luck last weekend against Dundee, A goal within seconds of kick off and within a minute of kick off in second half, these two goals is bound to have changed the normal flow of the game . Rangers could relax in the knowledge that A Muir wouldn't give them a nasty shock.

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07 Mar 2016 18:29:05
Hey Ed,

Any feeling on whether this semi final will be the sat or sun?

Also how do you expect the ticket applications to work? Will it be cup scheme first and then ballot between the rest?

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{Ed007's Note - I've no idea, sorry.}

07 Mar 2016 19:43:30
I reckon they will go on sale to season ticket holders first and if there is more demand than there is tickets then I would imagine it will go to a ballot but I am only guessing.

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07 Mar 2016 19:49:55
Last season it was st holders on home cup ticket scheme first, then st holders who had bought tickets for previous cup games then the rest were balloted to season ticket holders who hadnt bought previous cup tickets .There won't be a public sale I would imagine unless some season book holders don't fancy watching us play a wee team from the 2nd tier.

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07 Mar 2016 21:32:35
Celtic usually has to play on Sunday after the Hampden pitch has been cut up by Saturday's match . This will make it difficult for our passing team and with the referee no doubt coming from the usual Masonic group that will be the only two advantages Rangers 2012 will have .

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07 Mar 2016 22:40:16
Hopefully all those fans that turned up against Morton will get priority.

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{Ed007's Note - I said the same thing to the Mrs earlier this evening.}

07 Mar 2016 23:14:55
Behave Oldbhoy, its the same playing surface for both teams, its a bit pathetic and sounds like you're making excuses already, Celtic are the SPL champions, The Rangers are a division below them, and if Celtic don't win by 3 or 4 goals, it will be more to do with what team Ronnie picks and what formation he chooses, before it has anything to do with the state of the pitch or the weather or whatever.

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08 Mar 2016 01:41:29
Nailed it Old Bhoy! Ref will likely be Craigy Thompson or honest Gollum.

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08 Mar 2016 10:15:27
@groutdoc64 that should be the manner tickets are issued, but no doubt some of these fans will unfortunately miss out.

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08 Mar 2016 12:14:45
Absolutely. i didn't make the Arbroath game but I know people around me who made Ab/ EK/ Mor and they should absolutely be first in line. Tbh I'm not in UK that weekend so it's not even about me getting one. I just feel people who have attended every round should be rewarded.

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08 Mar 2016 18:25:33
Aindoh, calm yourself, you have your naive views and I have my views. I expect Celtic to win with goals to spare Rangers 2012, maybe a new club but the SFA and referees will bend over backwards as they did for Rangers 1872, to help the new club to be a competitive as possible . It would be ridiculous for R D to not refer to the Rangers ( either club) special relationship with referees and SFA in preparing for game.

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07 Mar 2016 18:35:54
So we see that Celtic have been drawn against lower league opposition in the semi-finals of the Scottish Cup although, between them, they have won the cup 36 times with sevco having won the cup 0 times and Celtic 36 times.

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07 Mar 2016 21:33:25
No reason why it can't be as easy as last year.

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07 Mar 2016 18:31:29
Any new stuff to report guys? Well, sevco. Where to start. I do not have the the slightest worry we will lose. Look at the facts, would ANY sevconaut get in our team? Wallace was always a borderline for me but KT has killed that. This is a rag tag bunch of frees and cheap transfers, no Barcelona despite what the SMS will claim.

Tavernier and Wallace still seem to instigate most of their forward movement, will they push on against us? I would say no. They have no pace at central defence and a lightweight midfield. Up front, not much to worry about for me. miller? Surely we should shut him out given he has a tenth of his pace. If they let us work them on the flanks we will eat them. Roberts, must be started to build him for this game.

Finally, let's not buy into this rangers nonsense. We are about to be bombarded with the same club guff. They are not. They won a few battles but to paraphrase a famous statement 'the war is over and the rebels won'Ronny has a great record against them remember!

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07 Mar 2016 19:41:28
I wrote a very similar spiel to this earlier which didn't get posted. It basically relayed your point that none of their players would get into our first team and that will show at Hampden in the end. I'm very confident we'll beat them. Hopefully now we'll get the same starting 11 for the next 4 games leading up and get into a rhythm. I'd have Gordon, Tierney, Sviatchenko, Simunovic (if fit/ Mulgrew if not) , Lustig, Brown, Armstrong, Rogic, GMS, Roberts and Griffiths. Brown being the only sitting CM and Armstrong finally allowed to go and play his natural game box to box.

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07 Mar 2016 21:04:45
Would any Ross County players get in our side? It's football, sh*t can happen.

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07 Mar 2016 21:35:49
Of course the beauty of football is either team can win . However we are better than them in every position and providing we do as RD says keep 11 players on pitch we should win.

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08 Mar 2016 10:22:45
But was there a massive wave of panic when we got drawn against Ross County JimTim? No, but now that we've been drawn against the Championship leaders there seems to be an element of doom and gloom like we should be scared. We're the best team in the country by far, there's no two ways about it. If we show up, they're out, simple as.

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07 Mar 2016 16:51:15
Celtic player's will now surely strive to up the standards of performance's of late. The incentive of playing Sevco should and must motivate these guys you would think. I would like to think the likes of Broony, Mulgrew, Gordon and Lustig ( yes Lustig ) will be hammering home to the newer player's what this game means to everyone associated with Celtic. I'd also love to see young Roberts let loose on them. The next 5 league games will merit starting slots for the majority of our guys. Hopefully they will rise to the challenge HH.

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07 Mar 2016 17:32:20
Kevie I would have thought that the chance of playing in the cl or the chance of winning a league title or even the privelage of being paid shed loads of money to play for a great club should be motivation enough. if they can only find motivation to play against a tribute act then they shouldn't be anywhere near the club. We have a league title to win that's what should be the motivation.

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07 Mar 2016 18:11:52
It's a cup semi-final first and foremost and after a stuttering and mostly unconvincing season, the players have got to focus on the medals, trophies and the opportunity to play European football.
The media and others will blow this up into some kind of battle of giants - but they have to understand that although it will attract more interest than most games - it is a match between The Champions of Scotland and a new team from Govan who've never won a major trophy.

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07 Mar 2016 15:17:29
This has got to be our easiest passage to a Scottish cup final for many a year a non league side a 3rd tier side and a 2nd tier side who have only been in existence 4 years.

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07 Mar 2016 11:45:08
Anybody know when the new firm tickets go on general sale.?

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07 Mar 2016 14:43:19
Doubt there will be a general sale.

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07 Mar 2016 16:08:18
Rest assured that Lawwell will find a way to make the fans into some other purchase if they want a ticket for this game.

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07 Mar 2016 17:36:21
Season ticket holders will snap them up

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07 Mar 2016 07:29:02
Loved Crystal Palace Delaney's comment on the penalty he gave away against Liverpool: "I can honestly say I didn't make contact with Benteke today. "
Then he goes on to say:"If there was any contact. "
Footballers, you have to love them lol.

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07 Mar 2016 00:23:34
So celtic draw with Dundee then sevco beat Dundee means sevco going walk spl next season? That is what texts from fellow supporters were saying here yesterday yes and many sevco supporters. fast forward a day and hoops beat morton who draw with sevco in December. ? ? ? Welcome the chase lads? We do need new manager/ backroom staff but toll end season get behind the bhoys. also and lastly loo been saying for ages put mulgrew back at centre half where he had his best season. . just saying?

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07 Mar 2016 15:21:03
On their site just now ( sorry for reading it ) they are looking to get into the E P L they beat Dundee and now they are unstoppable . Roll on April 17th

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