Celtic Banter Archive March 07 2015

 

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07 Mar 2015 22:56:31
what a day almost surreal all the unbiased media pumping positive stories about the former and we just get on with our game plan i'd like to put a positive forword what a captin we have on our hands broooooooooooooooooooniee come u tims in green glasgow is green n white
let them have nothing to report but how good we are both football n fan support hail hail

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{Ed007's Note - People need to stop all this garbage about our own fans misbehaving and worrying about what the media and others are saying about us. Who exactly are we meant to be trying to impress, the media, that shower across the city or the whinging torn faced members of our own support?
Thankfully it's an away game and most of the panty wetters don't travel.}

08 Mar 2015 13:33:13
Wtf I agree with you ed

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08 Mar 2015 14:57:31
Believe it or not Ed007 I agree with you 100%
Our fans are magnificent and should be judged by the action of 95%, not the unfortunate minority of hangers on who may or may not be a Celtic supporter .
Has the loner who had the flare in Milan been named yet .

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{Ed007's Note - I hope not and I hope he's at Tannadice today cheering on the team with all the other supporters. I really don't think the panty-wetters are any less supporters than the other 95% though, they're a stain on our support and as you say a minority but how can you doubt they're CFC supporters?}

08 Mar 2015 15:17:29
Chris02, not everyone agrees with your views, it doesn't make them any less a fan of our great club.
P.S. hopefully nobody touted on the guy wi the flare.

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07 Mar 2015 19:12:59
Hi folks, should we be apprehensive about the match tomorrow?
Please reassure me.

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07 Mar 2015 20:22:26
I don't think it will be easy but I think and hope we have enough Quality to win all the 3 next games against them. They should be good games more confident about the league game against them than the cup games to be honest but looking forward to all 3

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07 Mar 2015 20:22:52
I think it's only natural to be nervous before a big match, in football the result can never be guaranteed.
If Celtic go into the match with the right attitude then we should win.
The best way to look at it, is to look at both line ups, and pick which one you would like to play the match for you.
I would pick ours any day of the week.

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07 Mar 2015 20:47:01
What I am worried about guys is we will miss Armstrong and GMS and if mathews does not make it we will be stuck with Ambrose which is the biggest negative, also with all the games we have played recently fatigue may be a factor, make no mistake Dundee United especially at Tannadice will be tough opponents we will need to bring our A game to Tannadice and if we do that we will win

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07 Mar 2015 21:00:09
I am not as confident as I would like, although if we play well we have every chance of winning by the odd goal.
There has been a bit of a reaction to the Europa matches and although we beat Aberdeen well in the end, I think the goal just before half time and the swift penalty gave us a huge lift when we were not at our best and deflated Aberdeen.
Tannadyce is a hard place to win and they have already beaten us this season although they have stuttered in recent weeks, you can be assured McNamara will have them fired up.
The addition of Armstrong and GMS have really improved the team and they will be a big loss, so it's imperative that the players that come in, take their chance and perform.
Forrest and Stokes will be favourite and they are both overdue a decent showing and a goal or two would be great.

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07 Mar 2015 21:45:16
Think Dundee Utd. have slumped big time since losing there most two influential players

Waiting to see who the three is tomorrow presuming it be Stokes, SJ and Commons if fit, if not it will be Forrest that is my only real concern if am honest if we have someone 100% fit to play the front right of the three

I expect Celtic to be really quick out the blocks given Weds and it being a normal time ko

I have bet first goal 0-10 mins and a thought Celtic to score a penalty at anytime at 5-1 was a steal tbh! (y)

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08 Mar 2015 00:17:21
It's stupid to say we are stuck with Ambrose if Matthews doesn't make it.
By saying we would be stuck with Ambrose . Is not only doubting Ambrose's ability it is also showing a lack of belief in Deila . Deila tuns to Ambrose when he has a back four player missing . If we are Celtic supporters it is our responsibility to trust Deila and all the players he choses and support and back them.

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{Ed007's Note - Come on, Chris, everyone has their favourite players and players they don't like, it doesn't make them any less a supporter or that they don't trust RD, that's preposterous. To me Ambrose is a decent squad player but if we could get £2-3 million for him in the summer he'l be off, I honestly don't think he's an intelligent enough player for RD's system but I definitely don't think he's as bad as a lot of people make out and if you rate him then you're entitled to stick up for him.}

08 Mar 2015 01:07:10
Chris02 I have backed Deila from start. I don't like Ambrose as a player, so does that mean I've been talking $hit about my support forr Deila?

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08 Mar 2015 09:39:20
My opionion on Ambrose has not changed since day one. Great physically. Poor mentally. And clumsy. Decent back up. Essentially not good enough. Purely football reasons Chris. Big Bobo is my favourite CB ever by the way.

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08 Mar 2015 09:42:53
Chris one thing that winds me up is people who criticise players whilst at the game. I would never tell them not to because they've payed there money the same as me. However a platform like this I feel is ideal for people to air there grievances regarding certain players, managerial decisions, boardroom decisions etc. My point is if people have a prob with efe or anyone else come on here get it off your chest because come matchday you will be fully behind the player or manager you don't really believe in. I don't think efe is good enough but I would only say that on here at the match I'll be his biggest fan. Criticism on a forum is surely to be expected.

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08 Mar 2015 10:18:43
To a T Garybhoy.

But you're obviously not a real fan ;)

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08 Mar 2015 11:33:19
I don't get this argument that you are not a true supporter if you don't agree with every decision the manager or the club makes.
Supporters spend a lot of money buying season tickets, merchandise etc, some give up a lot of their time actually just getting to the matches.
Apparently you are more of a fan, if you sit at home, don't put any money into the club, and don't have an opinion on anything.
I wondered where I was going wrong all these years.

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08 Mar 2015 11:59:56
Gerry I think you are a celtic fan wether you go to games or not but I'm sure yoy didn't mean it like that. The only point I was making is I would rather criticise on here than do it at the game. However a lot of people do criticise at the game and whilst I don't agree with it, I would never tell them to stop giving there opinion critical or otherwise because they've bought there ticket the same as me. Jim Tim thanks mate I'm clearly not a proper fan because I don't like every single player we buy ha ha

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08 Mar 2015 12:34:13
Gary I didn't mean you in my comment, it was more aimed at Chris. He constantly says that true Celtic supporters never question the manager or the club.
The point I was trying to make, (although I did it rather badly) was that supporters give a lot to support the team, and voicing an opinion does not make you any less of a fan.

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08 Mar 2015 12:41:08
Totally agree with that Gerry.

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08 Mar 2015 13:45:54
JimTim, Did you ever look at Michael Ciani, Bosman @ Lazio?

Closest thing a have ever seen to Bobo mate

PS am on 0-10 mins today again & Celtic to score a penalty anytime @ 5-1 (y)

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08 Mar 2015 15:12:29
Its not a matter of liking all players, that would be stupid. I don't know the vast majority of the Celtic players well enough to form an opinion of whether I like a player or not .
The thing we have to do is support the players, all the players . We support Gordon as a group and now after numerous years we all support and encourage Brown . Thank God our two cup games are not at home . Ambrose and Forrest would be getting pelters from some of our loud mouths before the game starts. How could they be expected to play after the abuse hurled at them .
Some one said they agreed that they who abused our players were entitled to do so as they paid for their tickets . Funny I agree, but they should be removed and placed with the away fans who don't support Celtic .

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08 Mar 2015 15:31:57
Chris you are being childish when you talk about liking people on a personal level. You know exactly what people mean when they say like or dislike regarding a player. And if you read my post properly you will see I said I don't agree with criticism within the stadium but wouldn't have a go at anyone because they have paid there money.

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08 Mar 2015 19:33:36
Garybhoy if supporters or fans want to shout abuse at players, surely they should be among the visiting fans at Celtic Park . That would mean that everyone within that section would be discouraging and abusing some Celtic team members and the rest of the stadium will shout them down and all the fans in the home section will all do what they like best, encourage and support the bhoys .
People should remember there are certain rules that have to be obeyed within Celtic park Surely we have to have a clear separation between those who want Celtic to win and those who don't

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08 Mar 2015 20:12:55
Well Chris I look forward to you setting these people straight at our next home match. Good luck mate lol

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07 Mar 2015 15:31:35
I said we needed at least 1 cb In January so we could bed him in before champions league next season and was labeled an "Idiot who thinks we have unlimited money" now everyone agrees lol. We can be fickle fans, my point being I honestly don't think we will qualify for CL football next season. Right now our team will roughly be

Gordon
Izzy mulgrew Ambrose lustig
Bitton Brown
Amrstrong Johansson GMS
Griffiths

I don't have any faith left in efe and think he is a second team player at best. Mulgrew can play there but I'm not sure how he would do now after being played in midfield for so long. from midfield onward though we are pretty solid. Suppose we could play lustig as a cb but he is injured constantly. Anyway, we won't buy anyone untill after we qualify so I think we are going to struggle again.

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07 Mar 2015 16:13:14
You are the second one who doesn't have any faith in Ambrose . I never thought it was a requirement of a player that fans had to have faith in him and worship him . The facts are that after Gordon's display in the home leg of the Inter tie, I don't know how people could be saying he is good enough either . Ambrose has played very well in four different back four positions recently but I suppose the "mistake" against Juventus years ago are a better form guide line .

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07 Mar 2015 16:41:25
Chris02 what's the explanation for all the mistakes ambrose has caused prior to Gordon being goalkeeper? Ambrose is an absolute bombscare, who should of been punted years ago.

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07 Mar 2015 17:43:28
Darren would it not be better to focus on the coming weeks rather than what might or might not happen in the summer, you'll only drive yourself insane as the media speculate on Gordon, efe, vvd, denayer, stokes, Forrest, Guidetti prob johansen etc

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07 Mar 2015 19:35:50
Dn30. Surely the historical " mistakes"made by Ambrose are of less importance than the form the player is currently in . You must have something against Ambrose because before Gordon came to play for Celtic Ambrose was an automatic choice for Celtic during their clean sheets run. Your post comes across as if you have a hatred of Ambrose, good Celtic fans should encourage and support all Celtic players. At the end of the day we should want Celtic to win, whether we like a player or not.

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07 Mar 2015 20:29:13
Darren I agree with you in my opinion we should have brought in at least one CB in January. Its going to be tough in the Summer only thing I can think of bringing in 2 CBs from the same league? As they will have a better idea how each play and I think if that was to happen it will be a Scandinavian league that we get them from there is no doubt we need 2 CBs in as soon as

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07 Mar 2015 21:11:31
Ambrose has made some horrendous 'historical' mistakes as you say and we all know he is a capable International and can do a decent job along the back line.
The problem I - and many others - have is we expect him to make a mistake at any minute, whether it's positional or trying to beat the same guy three times until he loses the ball or simply losing possession when he is off 'marauding'.
The supporters appreciate his commitment and effort, but he will always make game changing errors.
As for Gordon, I have mentioned a few times about his errors - especially parrying the ball back into danger, but he has saved us on several occasions as well; I would be much happier if we had another keeper, better than Zaluska to give us competition and choice.

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08 Mar 2015 00:21:05
What about the recent mistake by Virgil away to inter milan, surely we would be better talking about a recent mistake, rather than harping on about historical mistakes that according to you only. Ambrose has ever made .

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08 Mar 2015 07:35:02
Chris why are you still trying to polish the turd that is Ambrose? Do you remember Oliver Tebly AKA bomb scare? They could be mistaken for the same player!

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08 Mar 2015 15:20:36
All players can be perceived as making errors . If you go to the match hoping to see a player making errors you are likely to not be disappointed . If a player is abused on fan forums and by the loud mouths in the stand, do you think that will make him more or less likely to make mistakes . Players play well when confident, do you think some of the posts on here and the loudmouths in the stands help to build up confidence . As a Celtic supporter is it more Important to be very funny calling players derogatory names, or actually supporting all the players and helping Celtic to win matches .
Virgil nearly left after reading somethings about himself early in his Celtic career .

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08 Mar 2015 19:43:20
In our last two Cup Matches in Milan and in Dundee it hasn't been Ambrose that has put us underressure and finished off what ever chance we had of progressing in the Europa Cup. Today again he got sent off, most of us probably think he was unlucky today again . Howeverr even though his involvement was miminal get was ruled to deserve a red card and again made it hard for his teammates . Now I think if it was Ambrose who was sent off, I would be blamed so much I would have to stay away from these threads for a month .

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07 Mar 2015 08:05:32
Congratulations to the board for pulling off the mega deal with NB.
Hopefully they will grow a pair and splash out on the team to make sure we get a place in the CL. Speculate to accumulate and all that jazz.

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07 Mar 2015 16:22:24
Big Rab, may I suggest you are supporting the wrong team, one of the essential core values of the Celtic Football Club has been living within their means . Another Glasgow club decided to not abide by that code and spent freely everyone's money . I hope you arn't suggesting we do that .
Very many clubs including Epl teams that have an unbelievable turn over have splashed the cash, speculated on a hell of a bigger scale than we could dream of but haven't accumulated European success.

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07 Mar 2015 16:50:24
Chris it's seems that every time someone on here posts something you don't agree with including myself, they are " supporting the wrong club " may I suggest your level of arrogance may be better suited to a team across the city .

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07 Mar 2015 17:49:25
Chris, may I suggest you are talking through your arse mate. We failed to qualify for the Champions League this year because of a lack of investment in the team. A couple of decent players would pay for themselves with qualification. You might be happy coasting along watching us play dross teams every week, I'd rather watch Celtic against the cream of Europe.
Talk about a lack of ambition!

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07 Mar 2015 19:46:19
Big Rab, I don't know whose arse you are talking through but spending cash is no guarantee of winning or qualifying for anything . I am sure Rab on more mature reflection you will know that is correct .
Fab1, surely if I think that another poster is wrong and giving a bad impression of something to do with Celtic, I have a right to give my view also.
I can recall saying once or maybe twice that I thought some posters who feel that Celtic should throw money at a problem and the problem is solved may be better suited to supporting a different team.
Historically we haven't done that and we won the big one by not throwing money around . Am I so wrong . Your suggestion is purely shoite, it's a fact we don't throw money recklessly to try to buy success. Maybe you, and wrong club, maybe!

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07 Mar 2015 20:45:37
The thing is Chris son I don't disagree about throwing money around and my thoughts on buying up the best Scotland has available and breeding our own are on record. When you tell someone who has supported Celtic for 30 years and has been to hundreds of games in the flesh, following them all over Scotland and Europe they are supporting the wrong club then you are showing ignorance and arrogance, it's not your club it's our club, whether you agree or disagree with what our opinion is now or in the future.

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07 Mar 2015 21:07:08
Are you for real or on the wind up? Are you seriously happy with the way the board stalled on bringing in new players until AFTER the champions league qualifiers? Why are you even comparing us to that dead shambles across the city? I couldn't give a flying feck what state they are in just now. It is a simple concept that if you invest in something, you normally get a return. I know champions league qualification is not guaranteed but it is a hell of lot easier if you have the quality in your side to beat the teams we meet in the qualifiers.
To be honest, I am sick and tired of people like you making excuses for a board that seems hellbent in hoarding cash and sweating over profit or loss. We are a football club for feck sake and nobody is asking the board to be reckless. What we are asking for is some return on the money that has went through the club in the last few years via transfer money and European money.
I will also say I have been a Celtic supporter for 35 years and have followed MY club with passion through thick and thin so don't tell me I am following the wrong club.

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07 Mar 2015 22:57:43
Bigrab, I agree, but football is so in favour of big leagues etc it is harder to get in. If you win your league you should automatically be in regardless of country. The CL is a sham, I can't stand it. It is not a true competition, it is biased towards the "bigger" leagues

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08 Mar 2015 00:32:33
Fab1 30years following Celtic, sure you are only coming out of your apprenticeship . Add twenty on and you can claim some type of loyalty bonus . It's because it is our club, and has mostly kept to the same ethics and way of doing business. I remember big Jock Stein never tried to buy more than the board claimed they could afford . Our club has always spent within its means . We should be so proud that our board and laterly Peter Lawwell didn't submit to the temptation to spend a £10 for every £10 the Rangers spent . The media and the know- alls among the Celtic support were threatening our board with all kinds of abuse but luckily our board of our club decided to spend what they thought Celtic could afford . Fab 1 you are right it is our club, our club that we support and encourage and travel to support every where . It's not just the club for those who nik-pik and demand more, it's all our club .

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08 Mar 2015 01:53:16
Sorry I agree with big rab spending 3 - 4 millon on a quality ch and 5-6 millon on a decent cf might not assure us of cl football but it might just take us to the next level and is hardly going to send us running to tickitus, we must scout the players we need more diligently, identify what we want and spend what we need to get it, added to the young players we have filling these two positions with quality, would give us a great chance of making the cl, no more running around on deadline day hoping other deals fall through so we can nip in, it's unbecoming of a club our size, get them in early. Until we win every competition were in I will always demand more, while my support for the team shall remain uncompromised.

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{Ed007's Note - You don't need to spend thatin fee, Fab, raise the wages on offer to better quality Bosmans, it got us Kelvin Wilson, Ledley and Matthews and we haven't done too badly in those deals one way or another. I think everyone agrees that there's players not earning their wages and with RDs plan to cut the main squad to 20/22 + youngsters there must be more available in the wage budget once the clear out starts. Our problem isn't the transfer fees we pay, it's the wages it's obvious that a lot of money has been wasted on loans and signings like Boerrigter.
Shopping in the £2-3 million market brought in Forster, van Dijk, Johansen and recently Armstrong so the quality is out there, spending more on transfer fees doesn't guarantee success.
Of course I'd love to see the board splash out on a £6m striker but it ain't happening, overall the problem I have is not the amount we spend but that a lot of it I don't think has been, or is being, spent wisely.
Love that last sentence of your post btw, it's nice to see supporters with a bit of swagger about themselves (y)

08 Mar 2015 19:57:21
Fab1 I want more and always want us to improve . We can and hopefully will bring in new faces, but it isn't necessary the board' fault if we don't sign them until the final hours of the window . Scottish Football on pitches like today with Officals like today isn't necessary that attractive . If Lawwell had made enquires about 2/3 players, it's conceivable they would watch today and I doubt if they would have been excited by what they saw today.
Surely Deila is a believer of developing youth and if we can off load those senior professionals and have more young players of our own making impacts, I would be happy . The worry I have is that if we did pay £6m for a striker, there is a fair chance that even though £6 m may seem to be a fortune to us at the end of the day, it doesn't buy much in some markets .

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