Celtic Banter Archive June 07 2015

07 Jun 2015 19:33:22
This Chilean Bhoy any idea of its true rumour or just some reporter wanting a headline, moving out to they markets would be fantastoc for the club if we pull the right players at the right time

07 Jun 2015 22:18:08
It's the same old stuff mate,we're getting linked with this boy from chile and the young boy from Norway today! I would like to see us go for a more proven goal scorer! And defo not fletcher! Far to injury prone for the wage he would want! there's no point buyin a striker just for the sake of it! I know we can't spend big money and its not easy to find someone with the market we're in,but surely the scouting department can get better than your blades pukkis and scepovic! I think like a few guys have said on here if we could get finbogason he would be brilliant for us! Guys top class! I know it's not worked out in Spain but the guys a proven goalscorer!

08 Jun 2015 12:29:37
well, like Deila said; we may not be able to get the best players but the best team. It took him three years before he could buy from top shelf in Strømsgodset, but he didn't anyway. He brought Berget in on loan, Marcus Pedersen on loan and bought Konradsen for a minimal fee.
So, bright talents and players that been marked as "over the top or not good enought" will be the players he would go for.
But concidering Stefan Johansen was one of them, you shouldn't be affraid.
Keep faith in Deila, he's the man!

08 Jun 2015 16:08:56
Norwegianred , I agree with you completely , leave it to Deila , I think he is best qualified throwing names into the mix, many of them randomly picked by the MSSM , who certainly don't have our interests at heart or Celtic either . These names only cloud the issue and leave us disappointed that we wouldn't buy all the stars who were in the media's eyes, queueing up to sign for us.

08 Jun 2015 17:20:19
I'm not convinced finbogason is the answer is his record in Dutch football not similar to that of guidetti and samaras both of whom have not been the answer. Granted I ain't seen much of him and will not judge based on one move. However I do feel that he's a name now that fans turn to without actually reviewing his performance. No doubt he would rattle 20+ in the spl but does he fit into delias system?will he score at European level? I ain't seen enough of him his international record is good mind you. Anyone know is chance to goal conversion. To reiterate I'm not slating anyone's opinion of the guy or slating him. Larsson Pierre and big jan came from Dutch football and were successful and if signed hopefully would be the same. I'm more worried about the duds signed from la liga
West of Scotland pessimistic attitude sorry

07 Jun 2015 16:12:55
Hey ed, reckon us playing sociedad might have something to do with a possible Finnbogasson deal? ;) Clutching as straws.

{Ed007's Note - Have you been talking to my local priest? I was speaking to him after mass this morning and he's hoping that we got in touch with Sociedad about Finnbogasson and the idea of a friendly was pitched during the talks.}

07 Jun 2015 17:19:02
Devine intervention would not go a miss mate. Here's hoping they get a few million plus the gate receipts or something.

07 Jun 2015 17:51:40
Please stop talking about this guy,every yr for the past 3 he takes up lots of space here with lots of supporters,I live in Spain and have watched him closely,TV,and in the stands,nothing special at all,he was scouted by Park who is no great shakes at picking strikers,word gets out and all the lambs on here have something to rave about.Push the boat out and spend 4/5 million on somebody who has a track record,not spending1.5 /2 mil on Pukki's Balde's etc,etc. sorry for the Rant,but just fed up hearing the same old story

{Ed007's Note - It's a rumour site and in case you missed it can I remind you that it's not up to you what gets put on the site or decides what people talk about, nobody's asking you to read it.
People are talking about Finnbogason because they have watched him, we've been linked with him before and he's available.
We also know for fact that the clubs have spoken recently, nobody knows what what was discussed except a friendly.
Did you watch Chris Sutton closely when he was at Chelsea? One bad move doesn't make someone a bad player, so who would you suggest we target?
Maybe we should go back to talking about Robbie Keane, Ian Harte and Shay Given?}

07 Jun 2015 18:13:39
We all want Finbo and even if we are clutching at straws better to be dreamers than pessimists! He is exactly what we need and we refuse to give up! And he wanted to come on top of us wanting him we are just to reluctant to pay the fee

07 Jun 2015 19:54:09
You watched him closely in the stand and he was nothing special?? What his posture wasn't good?

07 Jun 2015 20:20:10
Malika what a load of $hite! Finnbogasson would be a welcome addition and would be prolific! Also many cracking players are found below £2m (Larsson, Moravcik, Wanyama). Michel Kramer is available for £1.8m and was 3rd top goalscorer in dutch league.is he a dud as well??

07 Jun 2015 22:28:25
I just want a striker who when he gets the ball only has 1 thought in his mind. To hit the target, and usually does. Has decent pace, good movement and has a great scoring record. Oops soz we already have him his name is Leigh Griffihs.

08 Jun 2015 00:57:20
Ed 007 If Kevin Doyle doesn't settle in the States maybe we should go for him in January .😋😆😀🐯

08 Jun 2015 04:05:30
"Everybody is entitled to their opinion" Malika. Or it was something like that anyway. To be honest you're the one that said James McClean was a grade above GMS. Couldn't care how many Spanish games you've been to it sound like you need to sit a little closer or ask somebody next to you if your judgement is that bad.

07 Jun 2015 13:55:19
it hus bin brote tae ma attenshun thit ed007 slanderisly quotit thit" wee pat mite be in bar_l " tae that wee nyaff timbo!
a point thit will be argued thru ma soliciturs (which you two wull be hearin fae shortly,
goodbye, mibbe the bar l will find it huz 2 new lodgers!
ed & timbo!

07 Jun 2015 09:20:04
A picture of Stefan Johansen in todays newspaper. This shows so hard he has worked on his fitness. don't know if the picture will show. ED007?
It also shows how much Deila's regime has had on him.

07 Jun 2015 18:00:10
i forgot to add: this is him at 18 years old, a year before he came to strømsgodset. And its the one on the right in yellow.

08 Jun 2015 01:00:15
I wonder is he sick? He has lost a lot of weight , Leaving his mammy , the poor boy doesn't feed himself .

08 Jun 2015 15:19:47
Haha, Chris his best friend and his second cusin Konradsen was asked why Johansen is so much better now than when he played for Bodøglimt and he answered; because he umderstood he was to fat to be a grest player. Now he is starting to get where he needs to. And Deila also said that he also still have a long way to go.
So next season you will see an even more fit squad than this year.

08 Jun 2015 21:59:52
Norwegianred. I think you are right and great thing about it , it won't only be Johannson who improves , I expect great improvement in Brown Bitton Mulgrew Griffiths Forrest GMS Armstrong Lustig Matthews Izzy and Virgil as well as young players coming through . We are going into one of the greatest times in the history of our great club .

07 Jun 2015 12:06:55
After watching the CL final last night as a Celtic supporter I took out 2 things from it.
1 - We simply cannot compete with the likes of Barca. (assuming we fortunate enough to qualify)Not rocket science I know but if we get there I hope we don't get all the rubbish about how we got humped etc etc. Remember Barca humped Bayern and vice versa last year so what chance do we have. We should though be able to compete with outside the top 8 and give most a game. For me just reaching the CL is like winning a trophy with a 20m bonus.
2- As u know I a fan of Craig Gordon so it was pleasing to see 2 top class goalies PARRY out to give opposition 2 goals. Must mean CG is a top class goalie.

07 Jun 2015 12:54:38
Two things.

#1 Spot on. Manchester City can't compete with Barcelona. Anyone who thinks we can is deluded. What we can and should be able to do is compete. We should be qualifying for the Champions League yes, but we should be aiming for a Europa League spot from group stages at the bare minimum. Some years we'll punch above our weight and maybe get into the last 16. When that happens we can take each game as it comes and see where it takes us. However, as far as I'm concerned we should (when in it) be aiming (and certainly able) to challenge/win the Europa League. There is no reason that shouldn't be our benchmark.

#2 Ter Stegen's wasn't a parry. It was a save. They aren't the same thing. His was actually a brilliant save from 12 yards out. Buffon's was a parry, and in fact was almost identical to Jamie McDonalds for Falkirk in Scottish cup final. Both were parried. Both were errors. Both cost their teams the cup.

07 Jun 2015 16:32:12
@Poetic, I think u are aiming a tad high. We have been to 3 Euro finals in all our history. Even starting at 67 that's 3 in 48 years an average of 1 every 16 years, and u think we should be competing for this? Even nowadays where money is nearly everything we have virtually no chance of this and would take an extraordinary amount of circumstances to happen.I Like most of us were in Seville not just because we were in a final and will follow anywhere but I think a lot of people of my generation thought they will never see anther 1.I not trying to be negative its just where we are at the moment and till money is split better it not going to happen. The relegated clubs of the EPL got more than Barca did for winning CL, it speaks for itself its crazy money.

07 Jun 2015 20:11:16
Does anyone really believe we are good enough to win the Europa league. We were knocked out by a very poor inter team who were well beaten in the next round. If we get to cl group stages that's a massive achievement and if we get to last 16 or finish 3rd and drop into Europa even better. But we are nowhere near winning europa. Let's be realistic here. I would love to win a treble next season and get to cl group stages with a few big scalps at cp for me that's a fantastic season for celtic.

07 Jun 2015 20:42:32
Rayman - I don't think that's too high at all. I think you'r aiming too low and that type of thinking is exactly our problem. This money rules all thing is a total misdirect and actually masks our failings over the last 15 years. EPL aside, teams outwith the usual suspects (Barcelona, Bayern, Real etc) are frequently punching above their weight in Europe. Club Brugge, Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk and Dynamo Kyiv all made the QFs of the Europa league this year, with Dnipro defeated in the final. Basel and AZ made the QFs the year before. (and Basel are a great benchmark for us)

My point is that it's easy to say oh it's too hard, we don't have the money to compete etc. We shouldn't be so defeatist, and certainly shouldn't be happy with just getting into Europe.

Garybhoy - No one is saying we are good enough to win the Europa League. I'm saying we should aspire to it.

07 Jun 2015 20:58:21
Well I'm not going to have a pop at a dreamer mate because if we could go that far I'd be just as ecstatic as you. Just think we are further away from that level than some people realise. Like I said if we get to cl group stages I think that's a good level for us. Drop into Europa after Christmas again that's a good level and take it a round at a time. Add on a domestic title and cup. That's a great season. A treble is a big ask as is last 16. But as you say it's something to aspire to. Just seen your drogba comment btw. "Score goals for fun" I think has already been suggested that's the diff with us and them mate. We can aspire. They are fuc£ing deluded.

07 Jun 2015 22:35:32
Its not our problem its your problem mate. Nobody on here or I know think we can win the Europa league.Nothing wrong with dreaming but let's be realistic and 1 step at a time.Every time we get in CL we get 20m richer. A few of these in a row and we can get better players to reach that level but let's walk before we can run.

08 Jun 2015 01:04:25
The one thing I got out of it was that Juventus were very naive , they pressed Barcelona high up the field , which was risky, but it was even more risky that their back four defended on the half way line , leaving acres of space for Barcelona to race into. This was sucidal with the pace of Barcelona's front three .

08 Jun 2015 01:33:01
Garybhoy - That's the point buddy. Aspire to it. We are far away from it I agree, but I don't think we're as far away as some people think. 2, 3 players. Fact is, if we had a better GK we would have probably beaten Inter. Suddenly we're the last 16. And then what? We're a good striker away from being a last 8 team.

And yeah ha, they've moved onto say that they've had a bid of 500k accepted by Aberdeen for Adam Rooney. From Drogba to Adam Rooney in one comment. Funny thing is, I'm not sure which is less likely.

Rayman - I said aim for it. I didn't say it'd be next season. I didn't even say we'd win it. Aiming for something and working towards it is "one step at a time". I said we should be challenging for it. That should be our aim. What is so hard to grasp about that? This isn't about dreaming. It's about ambition. I'm not deluded. I'm not saying we have to or will win the UCL, or the EL for that matter.

If you think getting in the UCL every year and getting £20m is going to make us reach that level then a simple question would be, why hasn't it yet? We are never going to put that level of investment in, in terms of players. That my friend, is a dream.

I just don't get fans who go on about the Champions League (or any tournament) for the financials involved as if it somehow benefits them. By that rationale, you'd rather Celtic were involved in the Championship playoffs than the Champions League final. It's ridiculous. Or should we ditch the leagues and cups and play 20 £1million friendlies a year?

I'm 31 so I've seen enough barren years to appreciate the successful ones. I don't care if we win lose or draw. I just want us to try; to compete. I will never be happy "just to be there".

I remember Raith Rovers beating us in a cup final and even at my young age, with all the (naive) hope in the world, never would I have imagined seeing Celtic in a European final less than ten years later. Rayman, you were in Seville. At what point during that wonderful experience did you stop to calculate how much money the club would make from the final?

{Ed007's Note - A sudden feeling of deja vu here, Raymondo!!}

08 Jun 2015 05:55:13
Only thing I would say regards the Seville year is, yes it was amazing. Taking the scalps we did and going toe to toe in a fantastic attacking final. However we won nothing that season. A trophy less season for a European final. Rangers won a treble. So would you rather have a season like Seville or a season like for example winning a league title and taking a few big scalps in cl. It's a hard question because the Seville year was such a great memory but the reality is its just that a memory. The trophies went to rangers and Porto. Given the choice I would always want to win the league. and if we throw in a domestic cup and a respectable cl campaign where we maybe drop into Europa to give us something for after Christmas I think that's a success.

08 Jun 2015 09:43:29
Yes your right of course we can't compete with the big clubs over the course of a season, but we can and have proved it on numerous occasions that we can in one off games. Ask barca juve real Madrid ax Milan and the numerous others that have been beaten at celtic park.

08 Jun 2015 18:39:40
Nothing wrong with aspiring as I said mate. But we are far from it. A better goalie and a striker away from it is just nonsense. Anyone can say that it doesn't mean it will happen. Look at the players in Seville just about every 1 of them would walk into our team and they cudnt win it.That 2 better strikers a better midfield and better defense.I don't think your grasping the importance of money. let's take away the last 3 CL campaigns, approx.50m. Do you really believe we would have the same team we have just now? Absoluetley not. Now let's think 3 years from now and we get another 3 campaigns approx. 60m, now I know we will not spend that on players but can u imagine the squad without it mate.As for championship play offs we will leave that to the other mob I don't watch part time football lol.

08 Jun 2015 22:06:16
It's not just the players . It is how the manager sets them out to play , their fitness and desire and ability to carry out the manager's instructions . This may take up to three years to prefect but when perfected a team of good players can beat a team of great players .

09 Jun 2015 15:10:18
Chris u really are on cloud cuckoo land mate. A perfect team? There is no such thing. There is always something to improve. Barca style of play is prob the best I ever seen and they can't defend. Football just moves on. I don't go along with all this fitness diet thing. It will never beat ability. Yes it helps but only small margins. No way a player of average ability will get near to Messi, Ronaldo, Pele etc just because of that. Look at he likes of Le Tissier, Hartson, Worthington,Malcolm Mcdonald, Best, etc would they not get into the side. Of course they wud.It takes all kinds to be a footballer. Some players run around like headless chickens not really getting anywhere then there is the likes of Messi who can just stand still and say just give me the ball.

{Ed007's Note - The same Messi that needed to use HGH to become a footballer? I suppose you don't need to worry about diet and conditioning when you've got Lance Armstrong's doctor helping you get over injuries and stay in tip top 'condition'.}

09 Jun 2015 18:24:50
You obv know more about this HGH than I do ed, but if he didn't break any laws what's he problem.

{Ed007's Note - He would have led a perfectly normal life without it but not been a football player, it's cheating, the Barca way.}

10 Jun 2015 18:00:38
If he didn't do anything wrong how is it cheating. So is it ok for the King Of Spain to bail out Real all he time.

{Ed007's Note - How the hell's it not cheating? So if I had started taking steroids when I was in my teens and turned professional at boxing I wouldn't have been banned and had my licence cancelled if it came out? You don't think Lance Armstrong cheated? The fact is that Messi wouldn't have been able to play professional football without YEARS of HGH and other medical help. Read up on it but in my opinion if you need need to take steroids to play sport you're a fraud and a cheat. Messi could have led a perfectly normal life without HGH, but him and his family could make millions if he took it, millions that will see him in court for tax fraud. I thought CFC fans hated people that don't pay tax?
Real Madrid are 602 million Euros in debt, so when's the King due to bail them out? You obviously don't really know much about Spanish football as Barca are given as much help as Madrid are.}