Celtic Banter Archive July 07 2015

07 Jul 2015 16:37:41
So now looks like ciftci deal done what everybody think will happen with his case for bitten 5 6 8 game ban

07 Jul 2015 17:14:54
Now he's a Celtic player I would say longer. and 3 match ban for Neil Lennon lol

07 Jul 2015 17:30:12
Haha tickled me that tempo

07 Jul 2015 18:04:39
According to a newspaper Celtic have won the race to get Martin Odegaaard on loan

07 Jul 2015 21:03:23
He bit an opponent think he will get at least 6 Maybe more

07 Jul 2015 11:47:52
So Ed, What kind of ban ( if any ) do you think Cifti will get from the beaks?

A think 4 games myself , Any one else thoughts?

{Ed007's Note - Suarez got a 10 match ban for biting Ivanovic so hopefully the SFA use that as a yardstick and make an example of Ciftci.}

07 Jul 2015 14:43:32
Ed can I take from that response that you're not happy about this signing? I'm not convinced myself but willing to give him a chance

07 Jul 2015 16:08:05
ED007 as stated previously I do not want Ciftci anywhere near Celtic Park and has anyone questioned why Van Hoojidonk is representing him, our Pierre was another "maverick" (moody barsteward, who downed tools in some games) sadly this Ciftci is out of the same mould, if things not going his way he throws a strop, Lawwell is scraping the barrell signing this guy.

07 Jul 2015 18:00:34
That's the bit I cannot get my head round Ed , If it is that long we are we buying him the now?

He won't be match fit till Oct/Nov with a ban like that and a much different purchase price wise in the January window

07 Jul 2015 23:43:16
You know what Bhoys, Pierre could have been a Legend but he knows it was a big mistake to leave us and he has said he regretted it. I reckon he will get a 8 game ban with 4 suspended and in those 4 weeks he will learn the RD ways of how he will fit into our Team. We have got the players we need in early enough and with the possibility of more to come. Keep the Faith Bhoys and ED let's see what Ciftci brings before we pass judgement. Hail Hail

{Ed007's Note - Haven't you seen enough of him Ciftci to have an opinion on him? We've had the wait and see patter for the likes of Rasmussen, Bangura, Pukki, Balde and Miku, remember we signed Lassad Nouioui on a 2 year deal and were told to wait and see what he brings, so what's wrong with signing someone with a bit of pedigree?
I've seen enough of Ciftci to know he isn't good enough to play for CFC, he is no improvement on Griffiths and unless he is replacing Scepovic I don't see where he could fit into the squad unless we need a new penalty taker.
Personally I would have rather we just kept the money than sign players of Ciftci's quality, I really can't see how the signing strengthens us.}

08 Jul 2015 07:30:23
ED, I can see your point but Ciftci was a handfull everytime he played against us and I was glad he was suspended for the Lge Cup Final. I think he gives us mor of a presence up front than LG and I think if we ever played 2 up front they would be well suited. With the right guidance I think Ciftci will do really well for us and of course he will get stuck in. I am a bit old school and want to see Celtic players fight for the jersey (like Broony) and I think he will certainly do that for us. Keep the Faith. Hail Hail

{Ed007's Note - It's a pity that in all that talk of him being a handful, fighting for the jersey you've not mentioned scoring goals, which is what we need somebody to do. Ciftci's just another in the long list of mediocre strikers we've signed in recent years, and that includes Griffiths.}

08 Jul 2015 08:34:24
Playing CF with Dundee Utd is different from playing for Celtic Ed. I think he looks like a good footballer technically and would give us another option. And I'm certainly going to give him a chance before deciding if he's good enough. Leigh Griffiths has proved himself to the fans so why can't Ciftci

{Ed007's Note - When we were playing Dundee Utd you thought Ciftci was a handful technically a good footballer and CFC should sign him or is it only now you need to try and find something positive to say because let's face it, you can't use his goal-scoring record to support the signing so we'll just go back to blind loyalty and hope.

08 Jul 2015 10:59:29
Whoa Ed007, Don't be knocking Rasmussen, he scored every time he played ha

08 Jul 2015 11:26:25
Well ED, going on what you said about Alfred Finnabogsson last year, its a good job we didn't sign him for the £6-7Million that you and others wanted us to pay because look what happend to Sociadad, left with a bad attitude, lazy, injury prone waster that cost them a fortune and delivered nothing (taken to the extremes I know)but just saying cash does not always buy you quality. I know Ciftci is not everyones cup of tea but he will still be a good addition. I would love Finnabogsson on loan this season and think we would have a good chance of getting him with Davie Moyes being there and Socidad looking to re-coup most of their money. Hail Hail

{Ed007's Note - I take it you don't know much about Spanish football then or about Finnbogasson, or even what I said about him. Go and search for where I said we should sign him for £6-7 million, you won't find it though.
Why would you want us to take on loan a player you describe as having a bad attitude, lazy injury prone waster that cost a fortune and delivered nothing?
Why would you want another one when we've already signed Ciftci in that role?}

08 Jul 2015 14:44:44
No Ed he's not a player I particularly want us to sign but I do think he's a good footballer. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and a chance to prove his worth. Has your opinion of Griffiths changed since we signed him?

{Ed007's Note - As a footballer yes but I still maintain the club should never have lowered it's own standards and signed him in the first place, once again at the weekend the club was splashed all over the front pages of the gutter press because of Leigh Griffiths.
Has your opinion on Bangura, Balde and Pukki changed since we signed them, what about Miku and Lassad, didn't we give all of them the benefit of the doubt?
Before we've even signed Ciftci he's up on charges for biting an opponent ffs - I can't wait to hear the excuses some fans will come up with for that.}

08 Jul 2015 17:49:23
Ciftci hasn't signed yet wonder why? Could it be possible that it's all just agent and paper talk?

09 Jul 2015 14:41:54
Yes my opinion of Balde, Banbury, pukki etc has changed because I was quite excited about what they could bring. But turns out they weren't good enough. Will Ciftci be? Who knows. But I'm certainly not going to knock him before he's even started!
I said to you a year ago I hope joining Celtic will help mature LG and appreciate the chance he's got and he's definitely heading in the right direction.
Would you sign Suarez if you had the chance?

{Ed007's Note - Why were you excited about them, how much did you know about them or was it just a case of CFC's signed them so I need to support them. Nobody I know rated Cifctci and nobody on here was wanting him signed yet all of a sudden everyone was a secret fan of his and think it's a good signing. Hhhhmmmm! Right then, it's blind fickleness.
What was your opinion on Ciftci last season? I know my opinion on him hasn't changed, why should it, because he's signed for CFC?
Btw, wasn't LG on the front pages of the gutter press again at the weekend? How many times is that he's dragged the name of the club through the mud and into the headlines on the front pages?
I wouldn't sign Suarez, would you sign Josh Magennis? If you take away Ciftci's penalties he only scored one more goal than Magennis last season, if you take away Ciftci's penalties Denayer only scored one less goal than him.
I wonder how many of Ciftci's new supporters gave their Zombie mates pelters over El Hadji Diouf?}

07 Jul 2015 12:21:04
Well seeing as I have been disappointed yet again by Celtic decision to sign Ciftci and not Vossen (btw now that Ciftci is a Celtic player I will fully back him) I have another wish for this transfer window and that is for Alfred Finnbogasson to board a plane to Glasgow this week for Friday's friendly and never leave! He is another player I think could make a massive impact to us! I don't believe Ciftci is RD main striking target as he has stated recently he is looking for a striker that could have an immediate impact on the champions league therefore I feel Ciftci may be more of a squad player in the event of a Scepovic or Stokes moving on! I'm sure Finnbogasson would be available even on loan as he had very little game time last year due injury and loss of form and he was an unused sub in icelands recent international! The sociadad chairman had been very critical of the player recently saying "he's failed to live up to expectation and is a source of self criticism of the board for signing him". We could give him a platform to relaunch his career and as he is still a fantastic striker it makes sense for both parties! Plus I wonder if the Davie moyes connection could help things along! I can only buy dream

07 Jul 2015 12:36:02
Thats right Iceman, let's get the dud of last season Finnabogsson on board. Yes he is quality but even Vossen was better than Alfred last season and that's saying something. People going on about Ciftci attitude but according to the Sociadad Chairman our Alfred has had a lot more issues with his attitude. If RD really wants him he will ask the Board for him but what makes you think he would want to work his socks off to prove himself at our bveloved club? There is one thing guaranteed with Ciftci, he will work his knackers off to prove his worth to you, me and the rest of the support. I say again (not wanting to tempt fate), Welcome Nadir. Hail Hail

07 Jul 2015 13:16:42
We had a bid accepted for Vossen. The reason he isn't a Celtic player is down to him not us

07 Jul 2015 13:50:22
Did you not read the part where I said I would fully back him? Tut tut! The reason I want to see Finnbogasson at the club is pure and simple the guy is I born goal scorer and just because he had a poor season last year does not make him a bad player! Lots of players go to clubs where it doesn't work out! Chris Sutton at Chelsea for example! My point is I would like to see a proven goal scorer at the club to take us to the CL because at the moment we don't have one (including Griffiths) and haven't done since hooper!

07 Jul 2015 14:22:36
Ice man you said Celtic decided to sign Ciftci and not Vossen which is not the case. I'm so sick of reading the name Finbogasson. The transfer window is open for about 7 more weeks so let's just wait and see. We've already got 4 or so new guys in which is encouraging.

07 Jul 2015 15:00:57
There is still a chance we will add another striker. Scepovic is hardly an automatic choice and we should punt Stokes too. However, I think the priority is centre defence before the qualifiers as any permutation of the players we currently have may get found out very quickly in the coming rounds.

07 Jul 2015 08:32:13
According to BBC, Celtic's bid for Ciftci has been accepted. Pending personal terms and medical being sorted, Welcome Nadir. Hail Hail

07 Jul 2015 08:50:12
Now it looks like he is in,let's give him a chance,remember the troll like comments that were thrown about here when we brought in LG,and he saved our bacon a lot of times last season,as well as showing a maturity level which I feel is constantly on the rise and moving toward an expected level at CFC

07 Jul 2015 11:54:34
Well I cannot be the only Celtic fan who does not want this guy anywhere near Celtic Park, poor discipline, attitude issues and probably a long ban pending. NO NO NO

07 Jul 2015 12:55:42
Did you not write the same thing about LG,Ciftci is a clever and dangerous player,I think he will do well playing of LG,and why do people still have this odsession with Finnbogasson

07 Jul 2015 14:11:21
He's his agent.

07 Jul 2015 15:05:11
He is going to miss quite a few games when he gets his ban and it's very likely he will be targeted because of his temperament, by opponents and the establishment.
We will support him as long as he stays on the pitch.

07 Jul 2015 17:17:24
Deila will show him how to fokus his mind to the game instead of everything else, man managing is Deila's best side as a manager. Never seen him play though, kind of a player is he?

07 Jul 2015 02:07:33
Reading Adam Mathews sayin the same old garbage that players who move to England feel they need to say! The scottish league isn't that great and that's why he's not startin for wales! Utter Pish! I like Matthews and he done a job for us,but don't talk shite son! U were getting a game for Wales when u were a regular starter for us! Just like Ledley hartson and Bellamy were in the scottish league! The reason why u lost your Wales place was a combination of losin your place to a better player in lustig and injury! Does my box in when these players have to put the boot into our league as soon as they hit England! So many examples of it! And not just players but managers to! All the celtic fans have wished the boy well and hope he does well! But don't spout shite just to give the English media what they want to hear! What will be his exuse if he doesn't get in the Sunderland team??

07 Jul 2015 05:10:42
Couldn't agree more mate all the rubbish he's coming out with now after he's gone should just keep there mouth shut Scottish league ain't the best that's obvious but he ain't gonae get the games we are involved in European games enjoy relagation battles every year while were partying in the champions league haha hail hail

07 Jul 2015 09:31:26
Never thought Adam would stoop

07 Jul 2015 10:10:19
I admit its never nice to hear but come on what else can be said about the standard of the league? It isn't great. Apart from us who would stay up in the epl? Tv money aside which makes the farce possible, just our 1st 11s from the spl v the first 11s of the epl then there is no doubt in my mind that many of the spl clubs wouldn't do well. As for international places, sad as it may seem he will just have to be fairly regular in the Sunderland side to be guaranteed a place in the Wales set up but up here he would have to be both a regular and playing well to be in his national side due to the low opinion of our league. I wouldn't read too much into the comments the story practical wrote itself the moment he moved.

07 Jul 2015 10:31:48
That's the problem but mate! These stories practically write themselves every time a player moves from scotland to down there! Of course the league up here isn't great! A blind man could see that! And yes it frustrates me that we're stuck in it! But it's far to easy to say the leagues crap and that's why he's not getting in the Wales team! When the facts are,lustig is a far better player and if fit would be keepin him out the team! And the fact that he was injured more often than not this past year or so! Just pisses me off when every player or manager who lands down there feels they have to put the boot into our game! Sorry but he's went down in my book with these comments!

07 Jul 2015 11:18:22
Im just glad we got a bit of cash instead of running down his contract. he has rolled the dice. Few injuries or another Sunderland signing and he could well end up 3rd choice down there. He might not realise just how patient and loyal we have been to him considering his injury record.

07 Jul 2015 11:53:00
I wish players would just tell the truth and admit that it's the money they're moving for.
I'm not saying that's wrong, most of us would probably do the same, but I wouldn't mind betting that if Celtic could pay him more than he's earning at Sunderland, he would stay here and playing for Wales wouldn't come in to it.
It's the same story with Van Dijk, he has got into the Dutch squad while playing for Celtic, but when he gets his move to England, he'll be telling everybody that he needed to move because playing in Scotland damages his chances of playing for Holland, not the real reason that he will be making plenty of money.