Celtic Banter Archive January 07 2019

 

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07 Jan 2019 23:45:51
Just a thought, this Kamarra, Finnish international from Dundee, I know he is a good midfielder, I didn't realise he was so young, The rangers are buying him, but seemingly Dundee want the money now, instead of at the end of the season, what I was thinking was, Scott Brown has been great for Celtic, but I think his time is gone, this is what happens, everyone gets too emotional and player are kept well after their sell by dates because they are not tins of beans but people, and loyalty has to be rewarded, but to go back to the start, the midfield is a bit like a soup, sometimes you have to try a lot of different ingredients before you get the mix right, Kamarra might be worth a punt, he has talent and I can't see his value going down if he doesn't hold down a place in the Celtic first team.

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08 Jan 2019 00:18:36
Not for me plus he signed a pre contract.

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08 Jan 2019 07:12:28
Aindoh did u have the munchies when u wrote that by any chance.

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08 Jan 2019 07:18:04
I wouldn’t be in too much a rush to get brown out the door. Nothing to do with sentiment but I know he’s mid 30s now but still feel he’s got something to offer. Experience being the main thing. If we’re continually going to buy young / produce young talent, a guy like brown with his experience is vital in bringing these young guys on and granted I don’t think he’ll play on a weekly basis, he for me can still contribute.

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08 Jan 2019 07:18:55
His contract up at the end of the season and he's signed a pre contract with the mob.

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08 Jan 2019 12:41:30
Signing players from the likes of Dundee is the reason we have a large squad full of players who are not good enough to play for Celtic👍.

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08 Jan 2019 13:24:57
No thanks. Too many cooks spoil the broth. Not a position we need more players in.

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07 Jan 2019 22:12:44
Are the loan options extra bodies in attack that aee needed? I think so. I am hoping that the money we spend will be invested in defence this window as it needs a rehaul considering what we will be left with in the summer. Tierney, Ajer, Jozo, Hendry and Ralston left in defence. This needs to be sorted now or never.

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07 Jan 2019 20:32:14
Hi Ed and others. Have not posted for a while just been enjoying reading your banter. Ed now we’ve confirm Olly Burke and Tim Weah on 6 MONTH LOAN deals! Is it safe to assume that the board don’t trust Rodgers enough to let him spend the kind of money he did on Edouard? . Let’s be honest any manager trying to build a stronger team from the strongest position already wouldn’t be happy as at best these type of signings are a side step. Thoughts?

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{Ed007's Note - If the board weren't backing Rodgers he would either speak to Dermot Desmond or leave.}

07 Jan 2019 22:04:39
It is hard to see how you develop a side with 6 month loans, and conspicuous that both lending teams have stressed that there is no option to buy (according to the rags) . Both fine players, I'm happy to concede. But where's the strategy?

I hate to be alarmist, and I assume this is a stop-gap until a major overhaul in the summer, but we got to have a better plan than this.

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07 Jan 2019 23:34:47
If the bhoy bayo signs then it could/ should / hopefully be enough until the club know what's happening with griffs long term health and then be sorted in summer window. until then that would give us Sinclair hayes weah eddy bayo johnstone Forrest Morgan burke . not too shabby . might even get a surprise and fran sol signs. (we can hope )

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07 Jan 2019 23:38:38
I'm not concerned about the loans in these positions as such.

We definitely should not be relying on loans but these guys are good options

We need to be using money to get in long term deals for a RB and CB

To have these wingers on loan now is ok so long as we use the next windows money to further add to our attackers.

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08 Jan 2019 12:43:49
Maybe its a try before you buy, hence their tender years.

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07 Jan 2019 20:02:09
Evening Ed, just wondering your take on the two 6 month loan signings. Personally while I'm happy new players are coming in to freshen it up, I'm just a bit bewildered by it as come the summer they more than likely go back to they're respective clubs. I'm just hoping theirs a few permanent signings coming in in the defensive areas.

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{Ed007's Note - It's just a complete waste of time for me.}

07 Jan 2019 20:41:27
Think we are getting 3 younger Bhoys in early in the window.
Maybe the more experienced RB and CH will come in slightly later.

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07 Jan 2019 20:59:58
Hope so mate.

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07 Jan 2019 21:07:13
No one on here would complain if that happened - would they?

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07 Jan 2019 21:21:22
Want a bet on that OAB?

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07 Jan 2019 21:35:41
Certainly not OAB, as long as a RB and CH did come in I'd be happy, only disappointment is the deal for the boy weah, wish it was longer give him more time to settle and more time to make his mark at Celtic, I seen the lad once in pre-season and he looked good he will add the pace in the final 3rd that we are craving for, as much as I like SS I feel he's lost half a yard but still has the quality, maybe BRs thinking is Weah out wide and give SS a chance through the middle help big Eddy out even though it looks like the Bayo deal is getting closer as I think he will need an adjustment period first, never seen the lad in action tbh I'd never even heard of him so not entirely sure what to expect from him.

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07 Jan 2019 20:40:09
With 23 days left in the transfer market still time to bring in another 23 x wingers 😂.

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07 Jan 2019 20:04:03
Burke, Weah signed and Bayo on way, Castange for full back what about John Obi Mickel for centre half, he's free agent.

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07 Jan 2019 20:22:13
Why would we buy a midfielder to play at centre half?
We've already converted 2 already.

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07 Jan 2019 20:02:19
Pretty happy Weah has signed, but seems to be only on a 6 month loan deal. Was hoping for 18 months, it's not exactly forward planning much for next season.

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07 Jan 2019 20:20:31
Six months is a very short time to make an impression or get used to new surroundings/ country etc; especially with the competition for places and the CL qualifiers due in the seventh month.
Maybe the deal can be extended for him (and Burke) if they enjoy their stay and prove their worth?

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07 Jan 2019 20:47:24
I think the club has learned from the Mosunda fiasco. Personally, I think both both deals will be 6 months with the option of another 12 if all parties are happy. Like you say OAB, it takes people time to settle, this way, all parties are protected.

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07 Jan 2019 21:40:23
I was thinking that originally as well Craig, Musonda deal was a huge disappointment all round and I think Brendan may have taken it personally. If (when) we get Bayo in we have strengthened the attacking options, a right back and centre back and this will be a great window. Plenty of days left.

Trying to be as positive as I can, but I know we will end up signing no-one else and rushing through someone like McKenna through on the 31st of January.

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08 Jan 2019 08:33:32
I still think McKenna is Rodgers top target.

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07 Jan 2019 18:48:27
The gaffers comments on Tierney today don't sound to great at all.

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07 Jan 2019 18:56:14
Yea read that Kev, a wee while. I wonder what that means? 3/ 4 weeks?

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07 Jan 2019 20:42:11
Wat he say?

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07 Jan 2019 21:22:37
He's not training over there and is out for a wee while.

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07 Jan 2019 23:40:40
I thought the same Kev.

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08 Jan 2019 01:56:57
Calvin Miller was recalled so telling.

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08 Jan 2019 07:19:39
The age of teirney and the games he plays I think this was always on the cards.

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07 Jan 2019 14:12:04
So I don't know if this has been covered yet but assuming we sign both Weah and Bayo which one will get the song boom boom boom let me hear you say Weah/ Bayo?

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07 Jan 2019 14:38:07
Well bayo deal would be permanent.

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07 Jan 2019 15:16:06
Big d

You will get your Green Brigade membership burnt in front of you for that effort 👍👍👍HH.

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07 Jan 2019 15:36:20
That Patter's like watter; Bayo the Weah.

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07 Jan 2019 16:29:10
Just seen a 5 minute video of Bayo scoring 25 goals.
8 goals with his right foot.
5 goals with his left foot.
And an amazing 12 goals from headers.
He is a big fella and decent delivery into the box is a must to give him a chance to get on the end of the crosses.
So playing a right footed player on the left wing is not ideal.

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07 Jan 2019 16:53:54
Leon, his stats for his current club:

Games - 32
Goals - 22
Assists - 9

That's practically a goal or assist every single game with a strike ratio of better than 2 in 3. Those are excellent numbers for a young guy no matter what league he's in.

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07 Jan 2019 17:52:07
I watched the same video Leon, the bhoy has some leap on him and header!

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07 Jan 2019 18:23:25
For me it's all about if he can handle the pressure of playing for such a massive club, time will tell. But he certainly looks as if you give him chances he will put them away, I think the best thing about this deal is we are signing him bang on form and full of confidence. 💚🍀 HH.

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07 Jan 2019 19:54:52
It's exciting to potentially get a young striker in who is producing the goods in a foreign league, with the 2 confirmed loan signings, my only concern with the two loan signings is that are they here to be in the first 11 or are they here to be squad players? If they are here to be in the first 11 then it just shows the lack of ambition by the club as the first team players will have their noses poked out then move on, which means we obviously need to buy new players for those positions in the summer which probably won't happen. But why the feck are we not looking at defensive reinforcements? They should of been priority and bought now. Ralston deserves a chance to be RB but we need another CB that's a must, stop being tight PL get someone decent bought. Finally welcome Damien you were a top player hope you can get the lads going and learn from yourself.

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07 Jan 2019 21:28:12
Royjac that's true of any player coming in. Been many a good player come to parkhead and not be able to handle the pressure.
Turner the club is quite clearly looking at defensive reinforcements to go along with the SEVEN defensive player Rogers has signed and the six that were already here.

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07 Jan 2019 21:34:19
I'm on about decent defenders kev not the utter pish options we have bought mate.

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07 Jan 2019 22:26:11
I reckon the loan signings are coming in to give SS and Forrest a bit more competition, Although we have other wingers I'm not really sure if BR trusts the ones in reserve to really come in a be as effective as the ones that are starting. So if these two lads can come in and freshen things up and create a bit more of an edge to the side, which I am now beginning to believe they will. We can march on to 8, we only have ourselves to beat really 💚🍀 HH.

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07 Jan 2019 23:38:49
big. D I can't get that song out my head now lol.

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08 Jan 2019 00:26:19
I did too malkybhoy that's what made me ask 🤣.

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08 Jan 2019 09:30:09
Aye I get that Turner but your yapping about the club not targeting defence when the fact is that since Rogers has came in he's signed 7 defenders in just 2 years.
So the club has backed him in trying to strengthen the defence but his choice of signings have been poor.

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07 Jan 2019 13:42:02
Ryan Gauld on loan to Hibs could be a good bit of business by Neil Lennon. Haven't heard anything about the boy since joining Sporting Lisbon for circa £3m but certainly looked a prospect as a laddie and still only 23. Could he have been worth a chance at Celtic if available at the right price?

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07 Jan 2019 14:24:47
Nope, he can't even get a chance at sporting, far too big a gamble, see how he does at hibs first.

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07 Jan 2019 14:34:15
Agreed Steph. If he does well at Hibs may be worth a punt. Moving to Portugal doesn't seem to have done much for his career and at 23 he probably needs to be playing regular first team football.

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07 Jan 2019 14:42:42
Watching his progress at Hibs is a reasonable shout Steph.

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07 Jan 2019 16:32:51
And weah and burke are first team regulars at their clubs.

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07 Jan 2019 16:52:32
Yeah to be fair Gauld has played more professional games than both Weah and Burke put together. I do feel Gauld's career is at a stand still though. The other two look to have more potential.

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07 Jan 2019 17:11:58
Weah is behind guys like cavani, neymar and mbappe, different level altogether. Burke I hope does well but just can't see it. What is there to judge gauld on except his days at United? What was that 3 seasons ago.

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07 Jan 2019 13:39:27
For every two 18 year olds Celtic sign,
I'll sign a 36 year old!
Dave King .

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07 Jan 2019 06:24:17
Deals for Weah (for 18months apparently) and Bayo to be completed in the next day or so and should be in training in Dubai.

We've not giving up on Castagne yet, bid of £6m to be made with a hefty sell on clause.

Also another three players could be coming in another ST, CM and CB.

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07 Jan 2019 08:45:27
Hope the Weah loan deal is an 18 month. Don’t see the point in these 6 month loans with no view to buying. At least with 12/ 18 month loans your getting the season out the player.

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07 Jan 2019 09:09:43
The option to buy just means a fee is agreed prior to the loan. There's nothing stopping us putting in a bid for any player who comes on loan.

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07 Jan 2019 09:13:58
All sounds very promising. Does anyone have news/ details of surplus players leaving in January - or are we building an extension at Lennoxtown lol.

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07 Jan 2019 09:35:24
I'm feeling very positive about this transfer window but as with AOB the squad is becoming a bit bloated and we need to get rid of the deadwood.

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07 Jan 2019 09:40:47
We will be clearing some players we do not need I’d imagine during this window. As noted by ED, Kalas/ Isimat Mirin have been enquired about. Castagne is in the works and it’s down to Atalanta, and I’m sure another couple will come in.

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07 Jan 2019 09:44:53
I can’t see as many as 7 coming in. Burke, Weah, Bayo and hopefully a right back will be it I reckon. Unless Boyata leaves. If so we’ll need a centre half.

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07 Jan 2019 10:53:18
Love your Optimism KH.

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07 Jan 2019 11:02:47
We need a centre half regardless LM67. Bad planning from us if a centre back isn’t priority. We are definetley after a centre back. We are definetley after a right back. Bayo, Weah and Burke are imminent. A RB and CB are next. Hopefully a goalkeeper in the summer.

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07 Jan 2019 11:41:32
Would love to see the back of Boyata after the shenanigans last autumn. I know he formed a decent partnership with Benkovic eventually, but he does not want to be here and when he comes back after injury, he needs weeks to get up to speed and initially, seems to forget even the basics of defending. Benkovic and Ajer would be fine until we sort out the position permanently.

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07 Jan 2019 11:53:50
I can't see us not bringing in a RB and CB. I don't think BR will want to leave it to the summer when Boyata and Benko will be gone along with Lustig.
We can't go into the CL qualifiers with 3 out of the back 4 being new players. The need time to settle in.

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07 Jan 2019 11:58:38
I agree we need one but not sure we’ll bring one in. We currently have Boyata, Benkovic, Ajer, Jozo, Compper, Hendry and Bitton on the books. Can’t see us adding another without a few departures.

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07 Jan 2019 12:49:34
Long term Ajer is still going to be one of our 2 centre halfs. He still has a big part to play for us, this season as well as next.

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07 Jan 2019 12:58:45
Compper and Boyata will be gone in this window so it would make sense to get 2 CB in now but I can only see the one coming in as we have Ajer Jozo and Benko too. Can see Gamboa leaving this window too to make way for a new RB but then that leaves Ralston in limbo so he may be loaned out.

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07 Jan 2019 12:51:56
If we get Weah and Bayo over the line then I can't see another ST coming in, focus will then turn to the defence. A RB and a CB are a must this window for me. I take it our interest in Jean Kevin Duverne has cooled, am I right in saying he got a bad injury? I haven't heard his name mentioned for a while.

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07 Jan 2019 13:05:39
I think most of us agree that we need a RB as Lustig is getting past his best there, but does anyone think he may be offered a new contract with a view to him playing CB? He's played there before and is more than capable, imo. His salary would need to reflect his new status though, of course. I'd like to see him stay anyway.

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07 Jan 2019 14:04:08
LM commper will be Gone in this window, he can't even make the bench so in my opinion he won't even be considered to replace anyone that leaves, Henry will go out on loan I can imagine, and Boyata should never wear a Celtic top again, he has downed tools you could see that in the last couple of games, big Jozo looked better than him before he got dropped to be replaced by Boyata. For me a RB and 2 CBs have to be brought in this window and get rid of Boyata, take what's offered and run. who knows we might end up extending big Benkos loan in the summer, he seems to be enjoying his football up here. A replacement for Boyata is a must this window though, just purely so we can show him the door knowing we have the cover.

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07 Jan 2019 14:17:44
Lustig or Gamboa will be off so a new RB will come in.

Compper, Hendry (loan) and possibly Boyata so we will need another CB, that would be leaving us with only Benkovic, Ajer, Jozo and Bitton who can play there.

The CM i'm lead to believe we are trying to sign is only 18 years old so won't come into the team straight away.

As for another striker, Morgan and Hayes may go out on loan Weah will probably spend most of his time playing off the left so another more experienced striker along with Edouard and Bayo.

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07 Jan 2019 15:37:22
Would that midfielder be Tobias Christensen from Start?

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07 Jan 2019 18:08:52
What CM?

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07 Jan 2019 19:04:30
Correct LM67.

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