Celtic Banter Archive December 07 2016

07 Dec 2016 20:33:08
Has anyone else noticed this cathro guy is already being dismissed as no good. If a remember right this is the guy the newco fans and the press were ravin about when he was linked with them. All smoke n mirrors to keep the deluded ones in there own we bubble. Just another example of the Scottish media at their best.

{Ed007's Note - The plan seems to have been to get Barry Ferguson into the Tynecastle hotseat but Anne Budge and especially Craig Levein were having none of it.}

08 Dec 2016 10:59:35
Is a big gamble by Hearts, be interesting to see, he has experienced a lot of different styles of football and how he puts that experience to benefit his postion will make the difference whether he sinks or swims.

08 Dec 2016 11:24:20
He's taken them on on a very good time though. They're well in the race for second and have a few young players who have lots of potential.

08 Dec 2016 12:34:05
Neilson was also a risk and did a decent job.

08 Dec 2016 16:25:24
No better time to take over hearts managers job.
They are building a very good set up.

08 Dec 2016 17:09:32
A hope he fails because a see hearts the same as a do the zombies. Absolutely horrible fans on the whole. Just thought it was funny how the media up here seen nothing wrong with him when he was linked to them, infact they were saying he was a forward thinking coach n he would change how they played, now he's at hearts he's pish. As a said, hope they're spot on.

08 Dec 2016 15:52:01
Hi Ed pal, whos plan was it?, the press?

{Ed007's Note - Going from Clyde to Ibrox would be seen as a step too far and it's felt by some that Barry deserves a more high profile job for his sterling work in keeping 'ra peepul' in check post liquidation and his inspirational newspaper column.
Ferguson could also really be doing with the money - that tax bill won't pay itself.}

08 Dec 2016 18:59:46
Cathro will have a handy enough job at Hearts . To keep the Board and fans reasonably happy he will have to keep Hearts in a group somewhere between 2nd and 5th in the SPL This shouldn't be too difficult as really they are probably only competing with Rangers Aberdeen and probably St Johnstone.

08 Dec 2016 21:06:31
That makes sense, as I was wondering why Kris Boyd was attacking the appointment in his coloumn.

08 Dec 2016 22:24:27
Nelson was awarded Manager of the month, after losing half his games .
Brendan Rodgers won all his SPL games and League Cup final but that all counted for nothing .

B Ferguson if he had been appointed Hearts manager could have done quite a bit to let Rangers finish above Hearts.

09 Dec 2016 01:02:41
What month was that, Oldbhoy,? maybe Neilson had a nicer smile, losing half hos games?, are you sure or are you stirring it, are you an empty vessel?, is your tongue looser than usual?,

{Ed007's Note - Robbie Neilson was awarded Manager of the Month for November - last month - earlier today.}

09 Dec 2016 14:15:12
Aindoh, seems you were right about the empty vesseL.

07 Dec 2016 18:57:44
Anyone else think that tom rogic has been bulking up this season.
Last few seasons he was early pushed over when fighting for the ball
Last night I notice that he is becoming very hard to knock off the ball.

07 Dec 2016 19:06:44
Think McKay-Steven could do the same, would like to see him bulk up and start bullying full backs.

07 Dec 2016 19:07:26
Agreed Kev thought the same about Armstrong 🍀.

07 Dec 2016 19:35:26
Agree with Rogic and Armstrong looking bigger and able to compete physically. I think they've both had a bit of a mental work-out as well mind, both looking much more combative in their attitude.

07 Dec 2016 19:46:29
Ye I noticed Armstrong had been getting bigger when he first came back into team tae.

07 Dec 2016 20:34:59
My Thoughts are that GMS is into shape to replace PR when he goes.

07 Dec 2016 19:41:43
He was actually same last season under Deila.

07 Dec 2016 22:28:03
Just not sure if GMS is really good enough cprs1
He has always disappeared in big game even before celtic.
I so hope I am wrong because he looks like he really understands how big it is to play at our club.

08 Dec 2016 00:10:06
Br future signing will make a lot of players fringe and a lot out.

08 Dec 2016 03:27:32
I am still hopeing that Patrick Roberts might be signed permenantly He is too lightweight for the EPL and will struggle to get into the Man City team. I know this is strange but was sorry he had a good game on Tuesday. We may beable to go back and get him after a year when he does not get a game. Off the wall but what about Denayer for out defence he is not getting a game for Sunderland and in a back three he has strengh and pace and with BR coaching could be a good buy.

08 Dec 2016 13:19:50
Think the best we can hope for is to extend or renew the loan deal for Roberts as I don't think we can afford him - even if he wanted to leave City?
GMS may get a chance if Forrest and Sinclair are injured or rested, but he does not have the same impact as PR.

08 Dec 2016 19:04:18
Time will tell with GMS, we only seen 30 mins on Tuesday night, and that looked very good, but we don't know what he really can do with only seeing 30 mins . I hope we see more and are sit ably impressed .

07 Dec 2016 14:16:31
They tossers at eufa have charged us with crowd disturbances and letting g off fireworks they really have a thing for us, add read the city fans had been responsible for the disturbance but not sure tbh.

07 Dec 2016 15:26:50
Mally, the fans that bring fireworks to a match surely know that they are getting the club into trouble, so why do they keep doing it? .
Whether they agree with Uefa's rules or not regarding fireworks, they must know that the club will get charged, so what are they trying to prove. If they don't stop this kind of thing, it'll happen eventually that we will get our ground closed, and we will have to play a match behind closed doors, is that what they want? .
It's a shame that after a really good performance, this kind of thing just gives everyone who is hostile to us a reason to have a go at us and take the moral high ground.

07 Dec 2016 16:52:21
We are an easy target and a stick- on to pay their prawn sandwich and Perrier bill after every round of games.
It's true there are other - more high profile culprits using these Flares and squibs but we are a soft touch without any clout or muscle within uefa and our support should stop giving these parasites excuses to fine our club.

07 Dec 2016 17:08:18
I've posted before on a section of our away support in Europe. Again the club is brought into disrepute by a section who purport to be ceLtic fans. Everyone knows the score regarding banners, songs, pyrotechnics including fireworks. Everyone knows that the club will be in the dock if UEFA's rules are broken. The so called fans who obviously don't care a jot for repercussions and our club's reputation in my experience do not come from the week in week out supporters but go along for the trip, have no real Celtic love or affinity. I'm sorry to say the only answer is for CFC to refuse tickets. I know the majority who go to away European games are fine ambassadors for our club and countries (Scotland and Ireland) but this must be stopped before Celtic Park is closed for a home Euro tie. What's the answer bhoy s and girls? How can we, the Celtic support along with the club put a stop to this behaviour? There must be a way. My thoughts are take no away tickets. What's the thinking on this?

{Ed007's Note - I think it's brilliant that we have the best away support in Europe and I couldn't give a toss what the panty wetters like you or UEFA think. Didn't you say (probably hoped) they were going to shut or ground for waving Palestinian flags - how did that work out? A poxy £8615 fine and I bet your were RAGING about that!
I'm just hoping that as we're playing on Friday night this week the GB have some pyro left over from Manchester for Firhill - just to annoy people like you.
As for Celtic refusing tickets, I'd rather they refused to give them to people like you.}

07 Dec 2016 17:53:27
What's that I hear is it panty wetters coming out their coffins from what I heard from people who were at the game the city fans started the trouble and our fans reacted.

07 Dec 2016 17:54:12
It's bad enough that the fiddlers and con men who have taken over the running of football in most Countries and especially in UEFA and FIFA without some of our fans who are only seen at our bigger more glamorous games try to keep our best supporters at home . Celtic Park would be a sad half empty grave yard like place if it wasn't for the wit and humour and support of these people . Nearly always when we score at home the players head to the G B end of the crowd . I wonder how often they head to the quiet Joes in the crowd .

One of the main problems is that UEFA don't apply their rules uniformly across Europe, as some fans at some clubs seem to get away with flares, rockets etc.

07 Dec 2016 17:56:58
Evening Ed. Bit touchy there. Rules are rules and if some of our support continually break them then we get in trouble and our reputation gets tarnished. That's straight for I'd have thought? Irresponsible of you to say you don't give a toss what UEFA think. It's their competition, their rules (for all clubs) . If they are broken as our fans continually do we cop it, simple. Same situation with the Palestinian flags. Of course I didn't want or ever want our ground closed. All I was saying was that if we keep transgression it could come to that. Been a regular attendee since September 1966 Ed so 50 years a Tim, win, lose or draw. I only have the good of our club at heart, love them with all my heart. Okay, if we don't refuse away tickets what then? Are you happy to let the guys that besmirch our club's good name to continue doing so. Seems that way from your comments.

{Ed007's Note - I don't see anyone besmirching our Club's name except for you on here moaning about a couple of flares, it's pretty pathetic. You only seem to appear to moan about these things so you can see why I don't really care what you think about anything and especially not how Celtic fans should behave.}

07 Dec 2016 19:42:36
Old Bhoy, you can't define how true a supporter is just by the noise they make.
I sit next to a man who is in his seventies, he doesn't make the kind of noise that someone in the Green Brigade makes, but he has supported Celtic for over 60 years, are you saying that he isn't as good a fan because he doesn't let off flares?
I just can't understand why somebody who claims to be such a true supporter can take a flare to a match knowing that by setting off that flare they are going to land the club with a fine, how on earth is that supporting the club?
I am not sticking up for Uefa or FIFA, but unless we just pick up our ball and go and play amongst ourselves, what alternative is there but to play by their rules in their competitions.
If setting off flares is no big deal, surely then it shouldn't be a big deal not to do it, it would save the club some cash, and stop the clubs good name being dragged down.

{Ed007's Note - You must admit though, Gerry they do look quality if it's a dark winter's night and some of the pyro throughout Europe looks amazing. Places like Turkey, Italy and Eastern European countries have all seen some cracking displays.
I wouldn't fancy telling a Juve or Galatasaray supporter they're not a true fan because they took a flare to a game.}

07 Dec 2016 20:06:03
The authorities don't want to stop people doing using flares etc and is why we see it go unnoticed in some places. The police can fine an individual, UEFA can fine a club and the clubs themselves know that these people will continue to buy tickets/ merch and a UEFA fine is usually small change to the clubs that get hit (there are a few exceptions to this) Yes clubs will boot the odd person out to make it look like they care but if there was any seriousness about this we wouldn't have all the puff and bluster to pander to the easily offended brigade and the point and shout shenannigans brigade, we would have serious action taken against folk.

I personally don't care if these things are used in stadia as its never affected me negatively when I've been around them (cant say the same for everyone though to be fair) . However knowing some of the idiots that do use them i don't exactly feel safe about it. Perhaps we need to train our Ultras in Pyro Management and get City and Guilds Pyro Certificates before they can be used? . We also need to ensure that the flares used are lung friendly all natural vegan smoke bombs.

{Ed007's Note - Hey stranger, how's things?}

07 Dec 2016 20:15:15
Really don't get all the fuss, our fans r superb, especially away n I see no harm in what they are doing. Other clubs fans aren't playing by these so called rules n don't get punished, so I feel that if were getting punished others should be too, but they aren't so it's double standards n the fans shows, including the 67 light show r superb as well as with the fireworks n smoke bombs, long may it continue I say.
Hail hail.

07 Dec 2016 15:38:50
It's actually staggering that these clowns at UEFA have charged us less than 24 hours after the game finished! They definitely look like they've got it in for our club by the way!

07 Dec 2016 19:10:18
How people can moan about our support is beyond me, Let the people sing.

07 Dec 2016 20:43:48
Awright Ed. i'm good ta, hows tricks yourself? hope the leg isn't giving as much grief these days? been a long time since I've posted here, always been lurking though good to see its all still ticking over.

{Ed007's Note - Ach it's just the same mate. Nice to hear from you btw, you should drop by the live chat one night.}

07 Dec 2016 21:02:19
ED, you would also have to admit that Celtic's reputation for having one of the best atmospheres in Europe has got nothing to do with letting off flares.
At what point would you say enough is enough, is it when the fines go up to £50.000, or £100.000, or £1m.
It doesn't matter what I think about the rules on flares, the fact is that Uefa keeps fining us, I would much rather that money stayed in our coffers, rather than send it to Uefa so they can lavish it on themselves at our expense.

{Ed007's Note - And you have to admit that a couple of flares isn't going to tarnish the Celtic supports' reputation with anyone. The only people who seem to get upset about it are some Celtic fans and TRIFC fans, there's not even a mention of it on the Club website from what I can see.
I'll never say enough is enough, it's up to the Club and police to stop it and the Club don't seem to be bothering, perhaps they just see it as part of having the best support in Europe, after all, we're hardly ripping cities apart and headlining News at Ten.
Do you stick folk in to stewards for smoking in the toilet, what about young lads putting a half bottle into their cola cup or the old boy that sneaks his hip flask out for a nip on a cold day?}

07 Dec 2016 21:25:53
In the words of the immortal jock stein "football without fans is nothing".

Our fans are renowned all over the world for all the right reasons.

It will take a bit more than a cheeseburger and a couple flares to stop me being a proud tim.

HH.

07 Dec 2016 21:45:05
Tick67

Pretty sure that immortal phrase could do with an update for the modern game.

' football without fans without disposable income and a panache for being irked or offended by something trivial is nothing'

Ed, will be sure to check out the live bit at some point in the near future, however i do find it hard to do 1 thing at a time nevermind 2 ( i have to pause the telly before i can shout about the ref for example)

{Ed007's Note - :-D

07 Dec 2016 22:24:42
Haha evinguu, very fitting mate 😀.

07 Dec 2016 22:47:47
The person who reported Celtic fans is an ex member of the Linfield Board . He has served 21 years on the Board of Rangers Favourite club .
That explains fully why we UEFA are in a position to raise charges against Celtic almost before the game is over .
As long as this bigot is a UEFA crowd observer we will be in trouble in Europe.

{Ed007's Note - Are you sure he was on the the Linfield board, Chris? Crawford Wilson was president of the County Antrim FA before his UEFA gig but I've never heard of him having anything to do with Linfield in any official capacity.}

07 Dec 2016 23:29:42
Ed The information i have is that because of the great work he had done at club level Crawford was awarded by County Antrim FA and appointed President .

I may be wrong but I think u would have to be a Board Member of a member club to become President of County Antrim FA ( never regarded as a warm house for R Cs)

{Ed007's Note - Fair doos mate.}

08 Dec 2016 21:34:08
Does anybody know for sure who started the crowd trouble but seems uefa have blamed us.

08 Dec 2016 22:30:11
Mallthetally I think the answer lies with Crawford Wilson from the North of Ireland.

07 Dec 2016 10:18:49
Just had a nose on the Man City forum "blue moon" or something along they lines. The total lack of disrespect is actually rather funny. After reading there forum you can understand why they are the most hated nation in world sport. They think they have the god given right to win every game they play? Another club with Plastic fans who have bought there history, Man City are nothing on clubs like Liverpool or Man Utd. People have a gripe about clubs like RB Leipzig etc, City are no different, only difference is they didn't change there club name to Sheikh Mansour City. I remember back in the day they couldn't even get 5 thousand fans in Maine Road. Now they think they are the biggest club in the world 😂! City are know where even as big as Celtic. Only difference is money. And as for that smug tit Pep Guardiola? Who does he actually think he is? Everyone praises him? For what? He won everything at Barcelona only because he was lucky enough to have Messi, Iniesta, Xavi and Puyol in there prime! Everyone on this page coulda managed that Barcelona team to glory. FC Bayern? Replaced a manager who won everything and was brought in to repeatedly win the champions league and couldn't. Give any half decent manager unlimited transfer fees and I'm sure they can do as much as Super Pep has done since leaving Barca. Greeting yesterday about a penalty, the only penalty in the game was for Paddy Roberts getting violated from Gael "Platt" Clichy. They had one player on yesterday who cost more than Celtics squad and more Leroy Sane- 40milion. James Forrest must be worth 80 million if that's the case! English football is a joke, Its only dressed up well by Super Sky Sports! Give any club 150 million a season and I'm sure they would do no bad down there 😏! Money can't buy you won thing tho and that's Passion, and City fans are actually pathetic! GIRFUY City! HH!

07 Dec 2016 10:34:07
Well said mick ćouldny agree more they canny even fill there ground most weeks and there's never a good atmosphere hh.

07 Dec 2016 11:05:18
Loads of seats to be had at the recent top of the table clash against Chelsea. Not as big a club as they like to think they are. Agree with Michael here, pathetic club with pathetic fans.

07 Dec 2016 12:09:34
Money doesn't buy humility unfortunately.

07 Dec 2016 12:10:54
The English have always had a built- in arrogance and jealousy and it usually manifests itself in sarcasm, gloating or bravado. Even with the vast resources fro SLY and each and every squillionaire sugar daddy - very few of them ever win the big cup, or get to 2 finals like real class clubs.
That crowd of imposters couldn't beat a poor wee Scottish team twice - using 20 odd players in the process and they will be found out big-time in the next round.

07 Dec 2016 17:26:28
I was at game last night as the school I work at was there. Was about 3000 different school kids on trips. How can a supposed big club give away so many tickets. At celtic park
Someone would give their right leg for a CL ticket. Also noticed it said 'thank you sheikh mansour' on their stadium. Its like saying 'we are cheats'.

07 Dec 2016 22:58:30
Although it is always nice for Celtic to bring in new faces, as long as we are playing in Scotland we won't be able to buy our way to success . We will have to rely on team spirit and bringing through youths on a regular basis . Once u start signing 4/ 5 players each season, u don't build up comradrie and have most of the players going through the pain threshold to help to bring success . Continuously looking at the coaching team and other back-up teams to see if we can improve these, also important.

07 Dec 2016 08:39:02
We were good to watch last night, the feelgood factor is just great, was so happy at the end to hear Sutton give Robbie Savage a good slap down when the told him if Celtic had the same level of TV money as the English clubs then they would not get a look in against us and did he not know that he had just watched one of the biggest clubs in Europe, keep it up big Chris, brings a big smile to my face.

07 Dec 2016 09:03:09
thought savage talked us up most of the game tbh.

07 Dec 2016 11:47:07
He said in the studio that celtic were a championship team and that's when Sutton gave him a slap cheeky foocker wed b comfortable in the epl give us the cash wed win it hh.

07 Dec 2016 08:01:53
The scandal of the thrown burger. BBC Scotland exposure of burger launching is long overdue. I mind an incident back in the early 90s where I was lucky to dodge a battered smoked sausage.

07 Dec 2016 10:58:27
I've managed to dodge a sausage or two on a night out.

07 Dec 2016 15:41:06
ooh matron.

07 Dec 2016 00:38:25
I can't believe what I'm reading! Type in Celtic FC into Google to see what the papers are saying and the first 3 results are about "mayhem" in Manchester! I can't believe we have succumbed to this lads but somone actually threw a burger. A cheeseburger at that! . At a police horse! I hope these scoundrels are brought to task and barred from parkhead lololol. Honestly what a load of pish.

{Ed007's Note - To be fair it's total bawbag behaviour, Tompo, anyone that hurts or throws things at any animal is a (swear) and deserves a slap. but granted, it's hardly headline stuff. They were probably looking for something to balance the Rangers fans giving the GMP Police Canine Division rabies back on '08.}

07 Dec 2016 08:03:34
There's nothing we can do now but stand back and watch how the MSM try to destroy our reputation. They will be so desperate to put us on a par with the shame and what they did back then. If throwing a cheeseburger at a horse because of the actions of one clown is the worst they can come up with, then most decent people will see through it. The only ones wetting their panties will be the same thugs who wrecked Manchester on that night. F*** the gutter press.

07 Dec 2016 09:15:44
Our fans are not all Saints. A bunch terrorized families on the tram by setting off fireworks. 90% of the first half songs were rebel songs, with deliberate intent to provoke. This, from our travelling support has got to stop. Takes away any moral high ground stance we like to think we have over the other side.

07 Dec 2016 10:04:46
Nora, there's a void left in Callcuta for someone so saintly.
Seriously thou, fireworks on a train? Someone needs their arse kicked as for the rebel songs, just look at the Saltcoats function, these songs need to be sung in discretion in backwater locations, bare bellied and sexually charged to entice the females into courting rituals. The race must continue. Are we human? .

07 Dec 2016 10:04:46
Nora, there's a void left in Callcuta for someone so saintly.
Seriously thou, fireworks on a train? Someone needs their arse kicked as for the rebel songs, just look at the Saltcoats function, these songs need to be sung in discretion in backwater locations, bare bellied and sexually charged to entice the females into courting rituals. The race must continue. Are we human? .

07 Dec 2016 02:04:49
I agree Ed but at the same time I always do the wee Celtic fc in Google before coming on here to see what the papers are saying and after that performance. I mean Armstrong was incredible, Forrest was ruining people before he came off and I tell you big Simonovic and Sviatchenco are (imo) one of the best pairings in Britain atm. But to see the first THREE headlines talking about a fan "assaulting" a horse with a cheeseburger. Considering most of our fans went in numbers, behaved, and outsang the City home allocation all game. To pick up on that 1 incident just highlights what is wrong with Scottish football.

{Ed007's Note - I see even the GMP were tweeting jokes about saying the horse is in a 'stable' condition. The media up here need to put a negative spin on anything Celtic simply because it's what the people who read their rags want. Or should that be 'Ru Peepul'?

07 Dec 2016 03:36:25
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{Ed007's Note - Thanks for that, Tompo. I'm assuming the alcohol was still flowing at half 3 this morning ;-)

07 Dec 2016 20:36:29
Have to say I'm loving the rebel songs getting thrown back in, grace is just a beautiful song n superb sung live at games n then u get the variations over n over, symphony, just can't get enough, Willey malley etc etc n I think the away support r outstanding, same as at parkhead the GB r great.
Hail hail.

08 Dec 2016 11:30:12
Very much so Ed lol but meant every word!

{Ed007's Note - (yes)