Celtic Banter Archive April 07 2021

 

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07 Apr 2021 21:45:17
Everyone looking for decision on dof and manger understandable but imo neither will happen until McKay comes in. Surely his early appointment is to give him the opportunity to make those announcements.

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08 Apr 2021 08:10:27
That makes sense Welshy, the only issue is that PL is doing a 3 month 'handover'.

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07 Apr 2021 21:43:35
What’s book holders opinion on the drive by Celtic trust and Celtic shared for the club to issue shares in return for “no added value” this season.

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08 Apr 2021 00:01:02
Whats the point in diluting the value of current shares. We don't want the club turning our shares into Junk bonds. Rangers seem happy to clear their debts through shares no value in it for the club or the fans.

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08 Apr 2021 00:17:29
What are they Welshy?, I'm. bot a ticket holder but intrigued.

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08 Apr 2021 08:06:40
A few 100,000 thousand shares won't affect much. Supporters need hard cash to make a big difference.
Has to be a system where supporters can pay monthly amount until enough is raised to purchase large chunks of sharers.
Is there a appetite for it? Going by the board apologists on this forum im not sure.

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08 Apr 2021 12:26:15
As letthepeoplesing said all that would do is devalue the present shares and devalue the club as a company.

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08 Apr 2021 12:56:26
I’m so angry with how the club have handled this season that I want my money back, not a share slip that’s worthless but can be framed on the wall.
I don’t think PL wanted the ten as it might devalue the competition when it comes to tv and sponsorship. His actions certainly seem that way.

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08 Apr 2021 15:00:54
No apologies for the board from me What's your plan Auf1888 go down the Barcelona route great having 140000 members with a vote that's wortless billions of euros in debt players picking the team and the manager.

We could get wee Sturgeon as our president wee red Capo. 😡 Celtic are in good financial footing compared to other global brands at the moment football will change in the next few years as a lot of smaller clubs will struggle leagues will change I'm sure our clubs structure will safeguard any financial issues others will have.

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08 Apr 2021 16:43:50
LTPS
What are you going on about. Fergus built stadium and put plans in place that no one person would be able to ride rough shot over the club. Desmond makes all the decisions, doesn't turn up to AGM or even games.
If your happy with the way thinks get run fair enough. Who mentioned going billions in debt. What are you going on about billions in debt,140,000 owners what's Barcelona got to do with Celtic.
Fans can own a club it doesn't mean you borrow billions. Im lost at your point. Think you just wanted have a go at me. Which is fair enough. I will debate my point of view. I think the board have lost focus and its immaterial what has happened in the past. We are at a crossroad and they need to step up and solve the issues facing us.

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08 Apr 2021 20:04:57
We have a board of directors at the moment who've seen us through one of the most successful periods in our history. I feel as many that their time has come and gone it wasn't perfect but 4 trebles no debt and a real shame we ever won the 10.

I remember Fergus when building the stadium there were complainants with TV signals opposing planning permission. The wee man said he would provide new TVs for anyone that had an issue providing they had their upto date TV license typical Fergus he was geered out the door with his all the thin dimes he definitely earned. 😇.

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09 Apr 2021 07:08:43
LPS
Im glad your happy with the board.

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07 Apr 2021 19:40:23
fired you an email ed.

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{Ed007's Note - I answered you mate and it did really help so thanks again to you and your brother 👍

07 Apr 2021 18:19:58
I'll hold my hands up and say my knowledge of the relationship between DOF and Head Coach is fairly wooly but it's my understanding that, generally, the DOF ranks higher than the Head Coach. If that's the case, any talk of letting Eddie Howe pick his own man for DOF must surely be taken with a massive pinch of salt. I can't think of any other job where you could essentially handpick your own gaffer.

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07 Apr 2021 18:48:20
agree kev. it should be the club who pick the DOF some one who will want to be here for a wile and build something with the club.

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07 Apr 2021 20:23:50
Agree but the dof and manager have to be on the same page or we'll end up with a jock brown jansen scenario.

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07 Apr 2021 21:55:27
I've said this already bhoys but, for me, the DOF should be selected first and have a long-term plan of how all the football operations at the club will work, particularly the style of play from the kids right upto the first team.

The club should then draw up a shortlist of coaches who will fit into that ethos so that even after the manager leaves, it's only a coach/ manager that's being replaced and not the wholesale change you would have if a D. O. F was not in place.

If Eddie Howe or any other potential candidate is even suggesting who the D. O. F. should be, the conversation should end there and we should move on and talk to an alternative candidate.

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08 Apr 2021 00:31:40
What Pedro said is exactly what we should be doing. Get a system in place with continuity.

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07 Apr 2021 11:22:04
When someone is available and they are "valued/ trusted/ respected" then it stands to reason there will be many suitors. That being the case speed is of the essence and if you snooze you lose. Hopefully we are not found sleeping at the wheel if Howe is our No1 target. We have been burned before by doing this, many times.

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07 Apr 2021 11:42:54
I think if howe wasn't coming why would celtic and howes reps mot just kill the story, there's has to be substance in this Imo.

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07 Apr 2021 12:27:46
As far as I know Howe wants to bring in his own DoF Celtic have/ had their own man in mind and feel that it would be putting all the eggs in one basket as if Howe leaves more than likely will take the DoF with him and leave Celtic up against it again. That could be all bull but that is what I have seen.

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07 Apr 2021 13:48:33
The reason Celtic don't kill the story is it's free publicity. Celtic have never killed any story including rangers problems because they need as much money as possible and every team in the league to do well as it makes more money with a full league.

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07 Apr 2021 15:52:46
If they had to respond to every claim it woukd be a full-time job. They could let us know when they are actually speaking to someone at an advanced level. That way we woukd be able to dismiss all the rubbish we have to out up with. They won't obviously, so every rumour is used by bookies to fleece mugs out of their money.

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07 Apr 2021 17:20:31
They are always very silent on these things. I suppose you can't say your looking at x, in case he knocks it back and then you offend y. Then we end up with z (Kennedy lol) . I just hope the get the whole structure right. The background team while be important too. I just hope they are look at it like us fans.

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07 Apr 2021 17:23:54
Get that lads but what's to stop howe nailing it if it's bull never mind the club. that's why I think there's obviously something in it.

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07 Apr 2021 18:44:24
I agree with you @ magicpole.
It's the Celtic way say nothing.
Don't Rock the boat in all that.

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07 Apr 2021 10:34:28
Bournemouth fans podcast was talking about eddie howe to Celtic the 10 things for Celtic fans to expect they start talking about it 35 mins into the podcast. watch the first few mins of the podcast first. one of them is gutted he is joining us as he hates us and like rangers but if howe becomes manager he will need to support us because of howe much he loves howe haha

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07 Apr 2021 18:32:57
That was a good watch UI.

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07 Apr 2021 21:43:34
United Ireland and BB

A very interesting watch thanks but served to reinforce some of my fears. There is a massive cultural difference between Glasgow and Bournemouth and the gulf between managing both is enormous. Some of the rest is just stuff that personally I struggle with that doesn’t float my boat.

The fans comments reflects his interview with Linekar. His man management philosophy for example and quotes on the wall smacks of the new age life coach guru guff that filled Rodgers book.

Before somebody tells me I’m aware Rodgers is having a modicum of success currently with his pedagogy which just goes to show some people will buy into anything. Hardly Stein, Busby or Shankly material with thoughts of football being a form of socialism without the politics.

No surprise then that Eddie takes his advice from Rodgers. That also explains the criticism from the Bournemouth Loyal and I use the term advisedly. He has no Plan B albeit (quote) he won’t need one up here with four hard games each year and the same in Europe.

What a bunch of absolute walllopers.

The overwhelming reaction though was twofold. Firstly, I’d love to see the financial arSe falling out of the EPL. Secondly, where’s Hadrian when you need him.

What a nauseating podcast if undoubtedly informative. His success to date is such I hadn’t heard of him although that doesn’t say much so any information is useful from my point of view.

I remain of the personal opinion that his CV doesn’t merit the Celtic job. Where is the evidence to the contrary? If we’re hoping for a proven manager that would be in it for the long haul it doesn’t sound like Eddie is the man to me.

Can he attract the brightest prospects in Europe? On the plus side his disciples were giving him a tick in the box from a player development perspective. Recruitment? Who knows. He hated it up NORTH in Burnley! He sounds about as good a cultural fit for Celtic and Glasgow as Pope Francis for the Moderator of the Church of Scotland job. Or Rodgers even.

I’m being facetious and speak with tongue firmly half in cheek Eddie might be the best manager we haven’t had yet.

But not for me I’m afraid.

Although I will be 100% delighted to be proved wrong and will be cheering on the bhoys in green and white at Celtic Park if Eddie is at the helm.

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07 Apr 2021 22:09:05
I noticed the No Plan B comments and he will go like for like when making Substitutions.
My biggest fear about Howe is him not staying for more than One or Two seasons.
The positives if Howe becomes our manager is I believe he will take us closer to the level we achieved under Brendan.
If he can take us near that level in 2 years before going back to the pub league, then he will have done a magnificent job because it’s going to take a good manager to step us up a few gears.

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07 Apr 2021 10:33:21
I've read an article written by Richard Hughes, DOF at Bournemouth from 2019.

Hughes on recruitment

He gives a pretty good insight into what his role involves and it does seem to be recruitment led. I'd imagine if Eddie Howe is the man then he'd want Hughes to carry out the same role at Celtic.

I think that could also leave room for Fergal Harkin to join the setup as well with his main focus on youth development, youth recruitment and creating a pathway to the first team, similar to his current role at Man City.

With each having a different skillset it could be a good combination with Eddie Howes football philosophy. We might be able to start keeping hold of our best prospects and I'm sure each would bring an array of contacts with regards to recruiting new players from the UK, Ireland and abroad.

I notice Man Utd have went down a similar root with a Technical Director and a Director of Football. Do you think we could do the same?

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07 Apr 2021 07:53:44
The sc hasn't been in the crumbledome trophy room since 2009, let's hope we can add another year to that.
4pm ko on the 17th April premier sports.

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07 Apr 2021 08:52:36
Well said mally and if Morelos had walked in the Dundee Utd game they would of prob been beaten that day and at least drew against jobs when he should of been sent off. Couple that with us going to Dubai and it would of at least been closer.

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07 Apr 2021 07:44:07
Big yogi moaning about rsf decisions and saying the Glasgow clubs get the best refs, fair enough but it certainly hasn't benefited our club, although sevco have front OK, still haven't conceded a pen or had a man sent off.

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07 Apr 2021 08:07:58
Too many like that, are so scared to single-out Sevco and say what they really mean; so it's very convenient to pair us off.

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07 Apr 2021 08:57:30
I was worried John Beaton would get our cup game next week and give them constant free kicks to help put Celtic under pressure.
That’s exactly what Beaton did in the October game.
I don’t think that should be an option now after big Yogi absolutely destroyed Beaton.
Yogi mentioned a rookie referee is better than Beaton.

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07 Apr 2021 13:50:37
Big yogi has spoken more about what's going on than Celtic as Celtic have never spoken out and they wont.

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07 Apr 2021 07:37:18
I wish the Scottish Cup Tie was this Saturday.
The team should pick itself for that game with the exception of the left back.
John Kennedy has a decision to make for the Livingston game whether to bring Taylor back in or not.
I would drop Christie because he's never really produced it against them.
My team to play against Livingston and next week is :-
Bain
Kenny Welsh Ajer Laxalt
Brown McGregor
Forrest Turnbull Elyounoussi
Edouard.

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07 Apr 2021 09:51:58
That would be my team as well buzz.

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07 Apr 2021 10:10:14
Buzz my friend Enrico thinks really good line up. Maybe Buzz can go in and cover for a few games until Howe arrives no?

Enrico is waiting in quite anticipation on new manager arriving .

We must beat The rangers in next 2 games against them.
With buzz’s team sheet Enrico thinks we can do it.

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07 Apr 2021 10:38:55
I love Enrico. 👍🍷.

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07 Apr 2021 18:48:07
This is @buzz team choice. I agree
Bain
Kenny Welsh Ajer Laxalt
Brown McGregor
Forrest Turnbull Elyounoussi
Edouard.
Except no brown for me get soro in see what got. Then laxault in if taylor was fit but.

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08 Apr 2021 00:32:55
That would be my team too not sure if Taylor is fully fit now though? But I can see Kennedy pick Christie over Turnbull 🤦🏻‍♂️.

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