Celtic Banter Archive October 06 2018

06 Oct 2018 22:16:03
Over the next two seasons we have the oppertunity to completly rebuild the squad. we could offload the following players and replace them with new fewer and better.
Gordon, De Vries, Lusnig, Gamboa, Ralston, Issagurrie, Miller, Compper, Boyata, Benekovic, Suminovic, Bitton, Allan, Christie, Hayes, Sinclair, Kouassi, Benyu, Malunbu, i would even go so far as to include Rogic in this list.
We could start afresh with
Bain and the two young keepers Hazard and Doohan
A new RB with Hendrey as back up
Teirney and a back up new LB
Ajer and three new central defenders
Brown Ntcham MacGregor and at least two new Midfielders
Two new centre forwards and a new winger
10 players for 20 it would be difficult but not impossible to achieve.

06 Oct 2018 23:21:51
Or we could let Brendan manage the team!

06 Oct 2018 23:50:52
We can’t let Scott Allen go.

We’ve already lost Armstrong and Allen is the only midfielder with beautiful natural blond hair left.

Yes, I know Sinclair has blond hair but I’m sure it’s not natural.

Thank goodness for young Ajer in Defence. It was desperate times after Johansen left.

Things got so desperate Griffiths agreed to transplant his hair to make it look more.

07 Oct 2018 00:31:37
That's no fun voting and he kinda has a point. The mantra was a small skilled squad and yet it gets bigger and we get commper and can't get rid of Allan.

07 Oct 2018 01:21:10
St Johnstone are a £7.5m squad. So my squad and formations for this morning is as follows:

Tierney.

That’s it. He’s worth more than them. 1 v 11.
I was going to put Broony oot there alone but we’d lose if he gets red carded. Honest mistakes and all that.

Ok how about.4-4-2

Bain
Izzaguire, Simunovic, Compper, Hendry
Allan, Bitton, Hayes, Christie
Griffiths, Johnstone

They’re all highly paid and of much greater value than the st Johnstone players. That team should win comfortably.

07 Oct 2018 02:30:26
On second thoughts I’ll increase team value by dropping Christie and Griffiths to the bench and adding Kouassi and Benyu.
You can’t be too careful:

New formation 4-2-3-1

Bain
Izzy, Jozo, Compper, Hendry
Bitton, Benyu
Allan, Hayes, Kouassi
Johnstone.

Give these guys a chance. They deserve it.

07 Oct 2018 09:36:39
I bet that team would slam 5 past St Johnstone 😂.

06 Oct 2018 12:22:28
We all know the club is paying the penalty for not buying players in the summer, we are struggling for goals and here is one major reason.
This is NOT my research, but I read online that Dembele, Armstrong and Roberts contributed 85 goals between them to the side and, just as importantly, 54 Assists making a total of 139 goals LOST from the team since last season. 3 important players NEVER replaced.
Lawwell, hang your head in shame.

06 Oct 2018 12:28:23
Spot on Tim we're a shadow of the last 2 seasons s due to not spending and the board have a lot to answer to. if we don't do good business in jan then 8iar will not happen and before i get shot down look at the results we struggle to break down bang average teams ie. st mirren Hamilton killie.

06 Oct 2018 12:39:41
But Armstrong and Roberts couldn't make the starting 11 and all 3 didn't want to be here. Why should Lawell hang his head in shame? It's not Lawell that picks the team or tactics etc, Rodgers signings would get any other manager the sack and rightly so!

06 Oct 2018 12:52:35
We have a long history of failing to build from a position of strength and it infuriates me to see this happening yet again.
There was some real complacency at the club from 2012 - 2015, when it was accepted by the board that there was no need to spend because we had no real competition, but under RD they had a reality check and turned to BR for improvement and progress, but now here we are in his third season and they fall back into old habits - taking his and the players achievements for granted and pull the rug from under him.

06 Oct 2018 13:19:47
sitting watching the Leeds game and the boy Moses odabajo who we had in pre season is playing and looks class. he'd have been better than lustig on this showing baffling no one could see this and a free transfer just what Pedro loves somebody needs there erse kicked.

06 Oct 2018 14:07:49
Rodgers spent 9mil on edouard, he bought morgan for 1mil approx, he bought kouassi for 3mil, he bought sinclair for 3mil and you say the board have to hang their heads in shame. that's about 16mil on four players Timalloy. The blame is clearly on rodgers shoulders. It will be an awkward pint on sunday for you timalloy, you keep that nonsense up and the suit will be hanging out you again☘HH.

06 Oct 2018 14:52:32
Morgan was 300.000 and when you don't replace the 3 players that left your gobny have problems agree kouassi was a mistake but sinc came in over 2 years ago and up until recently was a huge success. the summer window was a disaster Brendan said he wanted 3 players did he get them?

06 Oct 2018 16:05:10
Mally, brendan has wasted millions, how many of his signings actually play in the starting 11? Eddie, hendry. The less said about hendry the better. The board have backed brendan financially and he has wasted it. And yes mally we actually got 4 players👍. His signings have been a joke☘HH.

06 Oct 2018 16:49:54
I would hazard an educated guess that between transfer fees, wages and keeping guy's already in the squad BR has had way over 30million in the time he has been here. Probably more than any Celtic manager before him.
I was trying to say a few months back about this and was getting called a board sympathizer for this lol
He has had money just in my opinion some of it seems to have been not spent very well, although I'm sure he was able to get more out of the squad than he first thought.

06 Oct 2018 16:56:03
But they weren't what he wanted dare I say mcginn and apart from eddy cost next to nothing Mulumbu was a free . Agree some players haven't worked but you could say that about most managers.

06 Oct 2018 17:31:30
To be a little bit fair ALL the other teams in Scotland bar Aberdeen have played with 10 men behind the ball and hit us on the break because our defence is crap.

06 Oct 2018 17:36:27
It's a mixture of everyone's fault for the situation at present.

Rodgers has had money. Could argue his big money signings have worked. Bought some utter rubbish as all managers have.

Congerton/ scouting Seem to be shopping in a market we can't afford. 4 names were wanted this summer. When deals fell through seemed no back up plan.

Celtic plc
Could argue they have backed Rodgers. Could argue they haven't. Resigned our best players and got good money for players sold.

100% didn't do their jobs in the last window. Let Rodgers down and more importantly they let us the fans down.

Going forward the players here need to roll sleeves up and grind out results until January. The boys have done us proud but need help.

Scouting should be well underway at identifying potential targets.

Board need to back manager in this next window. If the doudt he's not the man to spend the money we have sadly they will have to sack him.

06 Oct 2018 21:09:27
Timalloy,
Dembele left in the last hours of the transfer window due to Brendan’s shenanigans with him. It was Brendan didn’t replace him or plan to replace him. Not the Board.
Brendan burdened the board with having to cut a sales deal with Lyon in hours! Not good.

Armstrong was always going. Brendan has recruited lots of midfielders. There’s 15 midfielders in the squad.

Brendan could have bought Patrick Roberts but didn’t want to. He thought the opposition was reading him well now and he was going backwards. Not the Board.
There were 7 new signings in the window: big Filip, Arzani, Izzaguire, Mulumbu, Bain, Edouard and an England Youth lad. and add Ryan Christie returning to that.

Surely with all this:
http://celticfc.net/team

We can rag doll the rest of the SPFL.
The focus now is for Brendan to show his mettle with the squad he’s put together over two years to do the business. It’s three times the value of any Scottish squad and about five times the wages. The Board have put the money out there.

06 Oct 2018 01:10:18
I'm still struggling with the amount of abuse the boy Hendry seems to be getting, I think it is unfair to be honest.

My take on the game the other night is simple and it is the same take on every game we play against decent opposition in euro matches.

When trying to play out from the back ( defenders) your players have to be able to take the ball under pressure ( midfielders ) and make passes to teammates. We had 3 guys playing in middle of the pitch of which only 1 showed up and was able to take the ball not give it away every time, this just isn't good enough for me. Had we been playing an elite champions league team the other night we would have been 3 or 4 down at half-time. Ntcham and McGregor just not at the races just now, while I agree our defence ain't the best it can't be easy to be under so much intense pressure for so much of a game. Add to this the fact we now don't have a striker to play with his back to goal and take ball in or bring others into play as a focal point. We are really struggling at the moment. Wee griff looks fat and just isn't working as hard on the pitch as he used to for whatever reason I don't know.
We need a big clear out for sure before we bring anyone else in for sure, while I like BR there are things I don't like about him. If we want to compete at that level we need someone who just doesn't make mistakes when bringing players in.

06 Oct 2018 05:21:29
In the past i thought the criticism was unfair because i was sure the lad had something, but you can't teach basic defending. Not putting a tackle in against partick thistle, not closing down the space for killies first, losing his man at the corner for their second goal, then in salzburg hesitating to close the scorer down with only one pass on for their equaliser. It is basic defending he should do automatically especially playing full time football, if he needs time to think these things through first, then he should not be playing at this level. I hate criticising one of our players but an amatuer player would have prevented the goals i mentioned above, sorry jack.

06 Oct 2018 09:47:55
I have never been a fan of playing out from the back, it gives me the fear watching it! How many times do you see teams trying to play out from the back but just end up playing it back to the keeper ( because CB's are being closed down in their own 18 yard box 😨) who punts it up the park which is what he should have done to begin with😂😂 I really don't understand and can't see why managers think these suicidal tactics are the way ahead? This is exactly why so many CB's are low on confidence and are being labelled "bombscare" "liability" etc. It's not their fault it's their managers fault asking them to dribble and mess about with the ball in their own box. Just put in row Z problem solved👍.

06 Oct 2018 10:42:15
Malkybhoy

Lumping the ball up the park is what's wrong with Scottish football. The odd occasion maybe but not as a strategy. Our young boys not just Celtic are poor technically because we get educated to lump ball, clear the lines, row z all that caveman football.

06 Oct 2018 10:59:26
The fear is seeing the ball passed between Boyata, Lustig, Hendry and Gordon hundreds of times. All aren't great passers of the ball and all are indecisive and take to long to make their mind up which just allows the opposition to press and steal possession off us. It's boring to see how long it takes us to get from defence to midfield when opposition teams can do it 20 passes quicker.

06 Oct 2018 11:03:26
Look I know the lad is 23 but he is untested at the level we play at and it is a steep learning curve, making mistakes is how you improve and I'm sure the lad will improve as does BR obviously. I just think a little more support instead of ridicule will help the lad. I mean look at Ajer he makes mistakes now and again gets outmuscled I'm the odd game but receives nowhere near the same level of criticism from our fans. I mean it was only a few months ago everyone was calling Boyata a bombscare and look at him now haha.

06 Oct 2018 11:57:32
Its very much Rodgers fault that we have bombscares in defence, spot on malkybhoy. ☘HH.

06 Oct 2018 12:48:36
So Happyhoppy our young players aren't technically gifted because "they get educated to lump the ball"😂😂😂😂 Don't you think it's because of the lack of investment in grass roots football and/ or lack of quality coaches? Clearing your lines ( Row Z) prevents conceading goals and goes a long way to help in winning football matches! I believe they call it the basics😂😂😂😂.

06 Oct 2018 14:13:02
Malkybhoy lots if reason for Scottish football being poor technically. Your prehistoric views are the most damaging. Lump it, row z all that twaddle.

06 Oct 2018 14:50:15
A CB priority is to clear the ball end off! That is their primary role! . Happyhoppy our young players would benefit from better coaching, is that not what training is for? Our players are not educated to lump the ball, if they are not technically gifted then this is down to our training/ coaching methods. Another failure for rodgers to answer to. ☘HH.

06 Oct 2018 17:18:11
TBHS

More a general view for me on Scottish football and the mentality of lump ball, row z. Why is it a CB job to clear ball, I understand under severe pressure but not when you have time. All good teams play football from the back. We try it and at European level get found out. Players not technically good enough.

06 Oct 2018 17:34:56
Hendry is NEVER A CELTIC PLAYER NEVER WILL BE end off.