Celtic Banter Archive October 06 2017

 

Use our rumours form to send us celtic transfer rumours.

06 Oct 2017 13:06:43
Just read that Liverpool are opening the Kenny Dalglish Stand. Would like to see us rename the North Stand. The Fergus McCann Stand in the Bunnet Bowl.

Believable6 Unbelievable3

06 Oct 2017 15:18:23
You know Stan sometimes a wonder if we EVER had a poll who was your least favourite Celt / individual connected who we would vote for mate well mines would be the wee bunnet EASILY

You see

1) He walked in the door with a five year plan that's not a celt at HEART that is a businessman

2) He build a stadium with our own money via a share issue

3) Nearly never did the Andy Thom deal only to see the mob outside the front door

4) Short changed Tommy Burns at every turn mate and treated him like CHIOTE now there is a man to name something after who really and truly I said on here both before worth talking about

5) Promised players new / better deals that he never kept his word too

6) Short changed us with the Wim WHO? appointment that fair enough paid off but when he couldny stick him did it again with Dr Jo whose finest hour was to give us Lubo

7) Then waltzed out the door with his big fat swag bag **** me our great club even managed to land him a bird!

Please don't tell me that he saved us in our darkest hour because the Weisfeld's where in the background thought they had secured it and had bigger pockets than the bunnet did!

His finest hour was sorting out Jim Farry mate

Bunnet lov'in no TY (Y)

Agree2 Disagree18

06 Oct 2017 15:39:08
He was definitely a celt at heart.
If build him a statue.

Agree2 Disagree3

06 Oct 2017 16:12:55
Have to disagree with that Jamie we have plenty to thank him for he built the foundations for the success we are currently having. I couldn't care less that he spent our cash that's the way Celtic operated then and now the fans were happy to throw their cash at the club because times we changing a new stadium and trophies being won again. Gerald Wiesfeld was never out of the papers in 95 why couldn't he secure a takeover prior to McCann. Understand McCann wasnt everyones cup of tea but the Bunnet Statue outside Paradise would be well deserved in my opinion. Put it this way would you rather McCanns way of doing things or Dave Kings!?

Agree11 Disagree2

06 Oct 2017 16:21:43
I should really have said Dave King/ David Murray. Atleast it was our cash and not loans.

Agree7 Disagree2

06 Oct 2017 16:45:54
SO he was a Celt @ heart from his 40 year Canada base where he discovered he could make money from showing a CCeltic game live? When his business was GOLF?

No fan of SDM but I quote " Fergus is the only MAN I know who made money out of football"

But I agree with you Stan it was our cash not Fergus's cash It's our stand not his (Y)

Agree2 Disagree9

06 Oct 2017 16:52:53
I can remember thinking the same way as u back then jamie but in hindsight i don't think it matters if he had celtic at heart or mot he turned things around and as stan said put down the building blocks too whete we are today🇮🇪✌️.

Agree10 Disagree2

06 Oct 2017 17:20:58
One thing is for sure Jamie it's the fans cash that keeps this club on it's feet.

Agree4 Disagree2

06 Oct 2017 17:40:10
can see both sides of the arguement but imo it took someone like fergus with the foresight to be purely business minded and build the stadium. most "with celtic at heart" wouldve and understandbly so put heart above head and invested in the team. I have no issues with him looking back and where we are now.

Agree6 Disagree2

06 Oct 2017 17:56:02
McCann never hid the fact that he was only in it for the short term but he did promise that the club would have a new stadium and would be in a financially secure position when he left. Our club was heading for the cliff edge but he was the only one who stood up and dragged us back from the abyss. For me Mccann will always be our saviour and we will always be in his debt.

Agree9 Disagree1

06 Oct 2017 17:59:43
SDM must be forgetting the £6million he purloined in an EBT.

Agree2 Disagree1

06 Oct 2017 18:11:09
Jamie he was from kilsyth and use to travel to Celtic games on the croy bus before he left for Canada.

Agree4 Disagree3

06 Oct 2017 18:30:48
Should arrange a Bunnet day for a home and away game every season it would be hilarious.

Agree2 Disagree2

06 Oct 2017 18:33:54
Well said Lawman.

Agree2 Disagree1

06 Oct 2017 18:42:26
If people want to believe Fergus was the only suitor for our great club they are delusional

He used Brian Dempsey's popularity and position and dumped him shortly after

He took a position no more no less he delivered

Fergus McCann the man who tried to stop Tommy Burns walk out the front door the day he sacked him

PL and DD get it tight on here how long have they been involved in Celtic? Did they start with an exit strategy?

The weisfeld's have spent more money on Celtic than Fergus did all in and still do aw that is right the bunnet buys four season tickets a season

He is to be thanked but not lauded that is BS (y)

Agree2 Disagree6

06 Oct 2017 20:48:28
Jamie didn't Fergus used to go to games when he was oung before he emigrated, I sure I read somewhere many moons ago that he went on the Croy bus but I may be wrong.
The thing about him is he taught all of us a valuable lesson on how to run a club, we all wanted to spend spend spend back in the day thank feck we didn't.
Just look at what happened Motherwell, Hearts Dundee etc all in admin or severe financial turmoil and a certain club dying.
Most other clubs have had serious difficulties mate tour a business man u know better than I but its cos of him we have never had to suffer since.

Agree2 Disagree2

06 Oct 2017 21:36:00
Lot of people on this thread I enjoy speaking too

Rayman if a Romanov or a Mileson or the way Murray latter run the zombies or a Whyte what Fergus did or didn't do wouldn't have mattered a jot

Listen here a different take on things this year we made a 1,150 % profit up from last year at roughly the same time we give a, talented manager a four year contract and then ten days later pay for Ncham that deal if they wanted should have got done quicker to dilute taxable profit's that tells me a 67 yr old major stock holder and a 58 yr old CEO who has already said that he won't go by 60 are making our club look attractive

That is business Rayman 👍.

Agree2 Disagree2

06 Oct 2017 22:07:49
2 bottles of bucky for £12 at the shop noo that's business.

Agree4 Disagree2

06 Oct 2017 22:33:38
That's your type of business Wb lol

Craig Whyte was a Rangers fan and a business man and that worked out well too :-P (Y)

Just business.

Agree3 Disagree2

06 Oct 2017 22:50:51
Fergus wasn't everyone's cup of tea, myself included when he was here. I booed myself when the flag was unfurled and I'm ashamed of that. He never lied once about what he was doing. He stuck to his plan, if we agree or not, and got rid of the family dynasties that held us back for so long.

Sure he got help along the way, Mr Keane, Dempsey, the Weisfelds and Dermott to name a few. But what he didn't do was liquidate our club when he would've made even more money. So be thankful for that or all our slagging of Sevco wouldn't be happening just now.

Agree2 Disagree2

06 Oct 2017 22:56:42
And he did go to the games on the Croy bus, the story goes that he still owes dues! Think we'll let him off.

Agree2 Disagree2

06 Oct 2017 23:09:50
Jamie i've been going through some scrapbooks i had stashed away i made them in the 90s. A good few articles regarding todays discussion its interesting reading. Cracking picture of Weisfeld and McCann shaking hands underneath Celtic Legends painting. Weisfeld is wearing a grey hat, tinted shades, a pink scarf, white trenchcoat with a black tie that has white hearts on it haha. I will upload on sightings page.

Agree0 Disagree1

06 Oct 2017 23:55:17
I think the people critical of McCann, should be placed under the heading "they don't know how lucky they were"!

Agree3 Disagree2

07 Oct 2017 02:44:41
I have had plenty of negative comments about Fergus, especially after the Croatia Zagreg result, Jock Brown and ofcourse the Simon Donnelly pointing penalty v Aberdeen. But let's be clear without him we would have been another Hearts. However thank God it never went that far never mind. DEATH. then pretending it didn't happen lol. Jim Traynor would never have let US lie like that.

Agree2 Disagree3

07 Oct 2017 03:21:17
Aindoh I think people critical of watching the football on the radio 📻 should by a big telly:-) 👍.

Agree3 Disagree2

07 Oct 2017 03:57:57
Jamie this is no like you mate your usually positive, did u suddenly find out u had an EBT back in the day lol.

Agree1 Disagree3

07 Oct 2017 07:28:28
What about Elliot he had an ET.

Agree0 Disagree2

07 Oct 2017 09:54:23
Croybhoy I heard that about owning the bus money. Wee McCanns cousin huge lived next to my dad in condorrat and he told us that story years back. Said he would walk fae kilsyth to croy to save on the bus fair.

Agree1 Disagree3

07 Oct 2017 11:02:58
Jamiebhuoy, 👍.

Agree0 Disagree1

07 Oct 2017 12:32:40
Club thriving stadium looks great money in tbe bank 7 iar certainty. mccann built the foundations; yes he could have spent more on players but then some of our support want the present regime to spend more and we're miles ahead.

Agree0 Disagree2

07 Oct 2017 18:40:27
Jamiebhoy, can't believe in that long list you missed his most heinous crime - employing Jock Brown - as for myself I am now a fan of the bunnet and what he did for our great club with 129 years of unbroken history (see what I did there) , I would now be in favour of either a statue or a stand named after him.

Agree0 Disagree1

07 Oct 2017 20:57:07
Don't agree with you jamie
Fergus tenure was tough but I believe it set us up for where we are today. I don't care if he made money, he laid out his plan and walked away big deal. Who cares if he was a Celtic man or not he saved the club albeit he did it for a profit, but he was prominent in our salvation.

We are the top club in Scottish football and long may it last.
You don't have to love the man but I Believe he is a man to be revered for what he did. Especially as history has shown what it could have done to our wonderful club.
RIB
Rangers.

Agree0 Disagree2

07 Oct 2017 22:19:48
What McCann did for us is what should be happening over at Sevco.
Clubs at the end of the day need to be built on a sound financial base, it doesn't sit well with fans when they see their rivals are outclassing them on the field but spending money you can't afford is only going to get you in worse trouble down the line.
When people say it's easy for us, and that we have no competition, they forget the hardships our club went through to get here, our club has been run correctly over the last few years, that's why we can enjoy the good times now.
The fact that other clubs are run in a shambolic way and try to spend money they don't have is their fault, it's certainly no reason to take the achievements away from us.
It shows the value of good management, and that you can't take shortcuts and cheat your way to success.

Agree1 Disagree2

08 Oct 2017 11:35:45
I hated him for the way he treated TB. I booed him and I have no regrets. He refused to buy the CB we needed that would or could have helped us stop them.

He did marshal our own money well and that cannot be denied. He left with £40m un his back pocket so he put in feck all. We did.

This hero worship of him makes me want to puke. We booed him for a good reason and they still stand for me.

Our money built Celtic and with the leftovers he filled a big bag and fecked off.

Hero my arse.

Agree0 Disagree1

08 Oct 2017 17:27:34
That's true Kev, owes himself a fiver does Wee Fergus. Can't believe the negativity towards him, sure he made mistakes, biggest one with TB, but look at what condition he left the club in. And we stopped 10 in a row, that'll do for me.

Agree0 Disagree0

06 Oct 2017 11:11:28
Going to gran canaria playa del ingles when we are away to bayern anybody know of any celtic bars.

Believable2 Unbelievable4

06 Oct 2017 14:07:35
The Irish centre is the place you'll most likely find one. No been for donkeys but in the Irish centre there was a pub called the randy leprechaun that was at the time a celtic pub, also done a great rebel nite and a celtic booze cruise if that floats your boat😂.

Agree0 Disagree0

06 Oct 2017 11:10:59
Imo Martin Dubravka the Slovakian keeper from the Scotland game last was my man of the match. Does anyone else think he would make it at paradise?

Believable2 Unbelievable2

06 Oct 2017 11:31:42
I googled him to find out who he played with, he's at Sparta Prague I think and sure he's not even 30 yet. Think he would do a turn for us.

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed007's Note - 28-year-old Dubravka only joined Sparta Prague this summer on a free transfer from Slovan Liberec.}

06 Oct 2017 11:55:31
Ah we'll there you go ed I must not have been as blooterd as I thought I was last night.

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed007's Note - You'd have needed to be blootered to sit through that game.}

06 Oct 2017 12:11:51
Must admit that I had a few drams watching the game. But have to say that it was one of the best goalkeeping performances I've seen in a long time.

Agree0 Disagree0

06 Oct 2017 12:46:57
Never seen the game, and only listened to bits on the radio, but you make it sound like Scotland were rampant and the goalkeeper was working overtime to keep them from scoring, didn't come across that way on the radio, even though at the end, most of the pundits were saying how well Scotland had played, I was thinking I must have had the radio switched of at that time, cause they played against ten men for most of the game, and the bits I listened to, Slovakia were holding their own even though a man down, I admit I missed twenty minutes near the end, and switched on again for the last couple of minutes, but if you are saying the Slovakian keeper had a great game, i. e., making save upon save upon save, maybe they were right.

Agree0 Disagree2

06 Oct 2017 13:13:49
The Slovakian's played well considering they were down to ten men for most of the match. But Scotland had periods when we had them peg back and would have scored earlier had it not been for the keeper pulling of a good few great saves. And Skrtel's master class in the art of defending own goal apart.

Agree0 Disagree0

06 Oct 2017 13:36:22
Ended up watching most of it at my sons house and although he played KT out of position to accommodate Robertson (shades of Danny McGrain) - the team started very well and created a few chances.
However, when Slovakia went down to ten men early in the match, I don't think WGS took full advantage and failed to capitalise and we allowed them to come into the game.
The guy Phillips, Morrison and Fletcher were awful the whole game but he hooks Forrest and then Tierney?
The result may well justify his decisions and their goalie had a 'worldy' but Scotland deserve credit for plugging away until the end and forcing that winner.

Agree0 Disagree0

06 Oct 2017 14:52:53
I think it would be to Scotland's advantage if WGS was sacked before Sunday, and an interim manager was instructed to just pick the inform players out of the pool, in fact just tell him to think of team that Gordon would not pick and just play that.

Agree1 Disagree0

06 Oct 2017 10:41:14
Right guys question for you.
Now I think the man lead our great club will be here for the foreseeable future but when he leaves on day out of the managers that are around now who would you pick.
Bearing in mind the calibre of manager has been stepped up with Brendans appointment.

Believable1 Unbelievable6

06 Oct 2017 11:01:44
Kev83 that's minimum 4 years away bud kinda pointless aswell who would we like as manager in 4-5 years time hell my son will be old enough to pick a manager by then get a hobby bro hh.

Agree3 Disagree1

06 Oct 2017 11:15:58
I've got this one lads, leave it to me and I'll have us champions of Europe once again.

Agree1 Disagree1

06 Oct 2017 11:31:42
Jeez shandybhoy it's just a question to fill the boredom of having international football and no Celtic this week nothing major.

Agree1 Disagree3

06 Oct 2017 13:18:32
Don't even want to think about that to be honest. This is the best I have felt about Celtic since big Jock's time with the style of play, confidence and consistency, plus the huge amount of potential talent yet to blossom.
I appreciate that all good things come to an end and you never know what's around the corner in football; but It's difficult to contemplate who would be available in four years (or so) of the same calibre of BR, but he will be a hard act to follow and I trust the club will never go down the road of untried or bargain basement ever again.

Agree1 Disagree0

06 Oct 2017 15:41:25
Never asked who would be available in four years. I said of managers around now.

Agree1 Disagree1

07 Oct 2017 11:17:36
remember when we were disappointed that Owen Coyle and Malky knocked us back. 4 years is a long time in management.

McInnes could be Man U and Pedo could be Chelsea boss by then.

BBBBAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Agree1 Disagree0

06 Oct 2017 10:19:40
i know c'mon tim, support the team, even if its only to get up their noses 😂. boys done well tonite, congrats.

Believable4 Unbelievable2

06 Oct 2017 10:25:37
Do you think the players on the park do it for the SFA? Or the fans, are they there to support the SFA? No, its about Scotland as a nation and the boys trying to get us to a tourney. Got to be looking forward TIM, put your grudges to bed mate.

Believable6 Unbelievable2

06 Oct 2017 14:04:08
totally agree Bhampot, we talk about the huns being bigots but we seen too have many too. some people still live in the past, gone are the days when our players and fans were abused at Scotland games. most of the Scotland team is made up of Tims. if Scotland were world beaters i'm sure just about everyone would get behind them. I'm Scottish and proud to be and i won't let any blue nose tell me otherwise just because I've got Irish roots. even our own players are proud to play for Scotland so let's get behind them at least.

Agree2 Disagree0

 
Change Consent